⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[@nn@_pen9]

With the level of inconsistency Liverpool are can they even make it to the top 4 and play champions league football next season? This has become something to worry about because the fans are still not sure of what will be their fate before the end of this year with how frequent the drop point, losing of games every week is now a normal thing for them which is disturbing, after losing without a goal against Nottingham Forest they still went on to lose against PSV, can this be a sign that Liverpool's manager slot is not the man for the job?

Opportunities will always be there, but achieving them won't be easy. The consistency they need is key to turning potential into tangible results. If they can truly fix this and learn from their mistakes, anything is possible in football. Hopefully, next week's match against West Ham will bring fresh air for Liverpool, but I think West Ham will certainly put up a fight for Liverpool, as they won't want to lose on their home turf.

[Solodoski]

The Chelsea vs. Arsenal game is nothing but going to end in a draw in my perspective. Arsenal is playing against Chelsea when they're a bit stable, coupled with their boosted morale from winning their Champions League victory encounter with Barcelona. Arsenal, too, on its side, has been the most stable team in England since the beginning of this season and would do everything possible not to entertain defeat at the hands of Chelsea. A preferred result for both teams is a draw.

This match is definitely going to be an interesting match and I also agree that both teams will be very cautious not to drop point. Chelsea seem to be at advantage because they are playing at home, but I don't think it's really going to count much. Chelsea seems to be carried away because of their win against Barcelona,  but I know it's going to be a very different game against Arsenal and I slightly believe that Arsenal is going to win the match, because Arsenal is the more consistent team and also in the best form right now. It's really going to be an interesting an well contested match, but I just feel Arsenal is going to edge them in the game. This is just my opinion on how I view the two teams this season.

[1kodumtek7]

Firing Arne Slot was a hasty decision, and in my opinion, a very bad one. It would be better if the club management conducted a thorough evaluation to determine the real problems within Liverpool and why they continue to lose. Liverpool's total expenditure this season reached £415 million, and the results should be commensurate with the club's achievements. It would be unwise to immediately blame Arne Slot for this problem. After the arrival of Alexander Isak from Newcastle United, Liverpool's performance immediately declined. Liverpool must find an immediate solution. Slot should be given a season to prove himself.

Was? Arne Slot hasn't still been sacked man. If you read it somewhere your source is wrong. Liverpool is still backing him interestingly. The fans must be criticizing this decision a lot of course.  

I remember how they acted with Klopp. They gave him a few years and Klopp carried the team to the top after it. However I don't feel the same thing with Arne Slot.

So far in the season Liverpool have the same amount of wins and losses in total, 10. 34 goals scored and 37 conceded.

[HajiBagi]

Firing Arne Slot was a hasty decision, and in my opinion, a very bad one. It would be better if the club management conducted a thorough evaluation to determine the real problems within Liverpool and why they continue to lose. Liverpool's total expenditure this season reached £415 million, and the results should be commensurate with the club's achievements. It would be unwise to immediately blame Arne Slot for this problem. After the arrival of Alexander Isak from Newcastle United, Liverpool's performance immediately declined. Liverpool must find an immediate solution. Slot should be given a season to prove himself.

Was? Arne Slot hasn't still been sacked man. If you read it somewhere your source is wrong. Liverpool is still backing him interestingly. The fans must be criticizing this decision a lot of course.  

I remember how they acted with Klopp. They gave him a few years and Klopp carried the team to the top after it. However I don't feel the same thing with Arne Slot.

So far in the season Liverpool have the same amount of wins and losses in total, 10. 34 goals scored and 37 conceded.

The reason why Liverpool fans are not happy with Arne Slot is because the club spent more than team this season,  I did not see anything wrong with the reaction from the fans because they expect more from the team after spending more than 500 million on the transfer window, Arne Slot has done what no any coach has done before in Liverpool, he won a trophy for his first season and make Liverpool look good than before, so the fans also need to calm down and give him time.

I like as the team have not take any actions or thinking about sacking Arne Slot because they know what he has achieved for the team and giving him more time will be the best thing, Liverpool will bounce back and start performing well but they can not win any trophy this season unless they have a good performance and prove to us that they are back to winning trophies.

[Sarah Azhari]

I don't what is doing on with Liverpool at this point in time but there is something going on wrong with Liverpool. What is worrisome to me with the way Liverpool is even losing matches is that they are losing to small teams. Liverpool has conceided seven goals at home against teams that are less fancied, imagine a team like Nottenghen forest scoring three goals against Liverpool at home and now PSV scoring four this is an embarrassing situation for Liverpool the coach should do something about it or should be shown the exit door.

I just think that Arne Slot is confused, he probably don’t know what to do because it is not easy to sign players with more money than any other team among your circle and your players are performing badly, it’s unfair. So in as much as he has plays a vital role in this poor form due to his team selections and substitutions, the players also contribute to this because they all have individual brilliance that can function even without coach, so they are suppose to help the team instead of pushing the blame to the coach because he is not playing the game with them in the field.
However, I think Liverpool defense is now weak, Konate and VVD are not in their best anymore, they need to be replaced with immediate effect because they are part of the problem.

The only remedy Liverpool have got this season is to sack Arne Slot else their misery continues, how can I explain to none football fans that the English premier League title defendants is seated on the 12th place in the standings and not only that but a team that have spent more than enough founds in the transfer market, and they've got lots of star players in the team but it seems nothing is working out with them or should we say Louis Diaz Alexander Arnold & Co are the piller that was holding the Liverpool team? Because since their departure Liverpool has not been the same whilst these players are doing just fine in their new teams, something really have to be done.

I agree with you, it's time for Liverpool to sack Arne Slot. This season has been Liverpool's worst ever, and Arne Slot should be held accountable. The loss of Louis Diaz and Alexander-Arnold has had a significant impact on Liverpool's performance this season. These two players contributed significantly to their success in winning the Premier League title last season. If Arne Slot isn't sacked soon, Liverpool may not qualify for next season's Champions League.

[BITCOIN4X]

~Snip

I agree with you, it's time for Liverpool to sack Arne Slot. This season has been Liverpool's worst ever, and Arne Slot should be held accountable. The loss of Louis Diaz and Alexander-Arnold has had a significant impact on Liverpool's performance this season. These two players contributed significantly to their success in winning the Premier League title last season. If Arne Slot isn't sacked soon, Liverpool may not qualify for next season's Champions League.

Dismissal is the ultimate solution, but I don't think it's time for Liverpool to make that decision yet. Fans may need to have respect for the coach, even if they are not satisfied with his team's performance in the first half of the season. Nobody wants that and I'm absolutely sure that Arne Slot has certainly tried to fix it - but the results haven't been optimal. It will take time to fix everything like last season and it is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, so fans should be patient.

The season is still too long to expect improvement, but again, be patient. The loss of two key players certainly impacted the team's performance, but Liverpool still have good squad depth even though their performance so far has not been as good as expected. If Arne Slot is capable of breaking Manchester City's dominance in the title race, then it would be unreasonable to let him be sacked just because of a few consecutive defeats at this time.

[Velvet78]

Probably that West Ham is going to be like a last chance for Arne Slot. Will Liverpool show a reaction? I'm not sure... I mean the problem isn't with creating goal opportunities.

The main problem is about scoring them... 2.50 xG against PSV but only 1 goal for example. But the biggest problem is of course defending. They are horrible at it. They conceded 10 goals in their last 3 games while scoring only 1. This is insane!

[Son Of Blockchain (SOB)]

Firing Arne Slot was a hasty decision, and in my opinion, a very bad one. It would be better if the club management conducted a thorough evaluation to determine the real problems within Liverpool and why they continue to lose. Liverpool's total expenditure this season reached £415 million, and the results should be commensurate with the club's achievements. It would be unwise to immediately blame Arne Slot for this problem. After the arrival of Alexander Isak from Newcastle United, Liverpool's performance immediately declined. Liverpool must find an immediate solution. Slot should be given a season to prove himself.

Was? Arne Slot hasn't still been sacked man. If you read it somewhere your source is wrong. Liverpool is still backing him interestingly. The fans must be criticizing this decision a lot of course.  

I remember how they acted with Klopp. They gave him a few years and Klopp carried the team to the top after it. However I don't feel the same thing with Arne Slot.

So far in the season Liverpool have the same amount of wins and losses in total, 10. 34 goals scored and 37 conceded.

Lots of fans want him sacked? Yes,  Slot is given more time by Liverpool? Yes. I know how  humiliating it is to watch your club win a trophy then move on to the next season to spend about £500m then lose 6 matches in 12 games and some at home to smaller clubs. You could imagine the level of trolling they'll receive both in physical and on the media so it's understandable if fans vent their anger on the board for not sacking him.
 On the other hand, what if he gets sacked and another coach steps in to do worst, thsts what fans should consider. Anyways if Slot is wise he'll switch back to the previous strategy he used that enabled him to win a trophy immediately he came in cause if things don't get better after he's pardoned then he'll risk losing his job.

[Dump3er]

what the club is going through is normal , there are other club that have gone through the same phase in previous season. Sacking Arne slot won't be a wise decision, it looks like all what he did last season has been forgotten too soon. I believe Liverpool will go back to its normal form. So the best thing is to give the man time , to figure things out. Bring in a new manager may not solve the problem but rather it may worsen the situation here.

Firing Arne Slot was a hasty decision, and in my opinion, a very bad one. It would be better if the club management conducted a thorough evaluation to determine the real problems within Liverpool and why they continue to lose. Liverpool's total expenditure this season reached £415 million, and the results should be commensurate with the club's achievements. It would be unwise to immediately blame Arne Slot for this problem. After the arrival of Alexander Isak from Newcastle United, Liverpool's performance immediately declined. Liverpool must find an immediate solution. Slot should be given a season to prove himself.

But this guy was given over 400m and he couldn't perform well. When he came last season the pressure on him wasn't that much because the fans felt that they only want to see how he will the team, which he did well . But now this season the pressure is different because the fans are now hungry for titles, that's why he was given money to buy player of choice. So every fault his on him, he can't even put the blame on the board or anyone. He might not survive this December if he keeps loosing.

The pressure was very high because expectations for Liverpool have been raised constantly for over half a decade and they were the strongest competitor for Manchester City, both going high into the 90 points range in the toughest seasons. Of course the pressure was high on him and everyone wanted the team to play as they did in the years before the coach was changed due to Klopp stepping back. Its is wishful thinking that in any of those clubs coaches have a comfortable life in regards to expectations.

[Hewlet]

With the level of inconsistency Liverpool are can they even make it to the top 4 and play champions league football next season? This has become something to worry about because the fans are still not sure of what will be their fate before the end of this year with how frequent the drop point, losing of games every week is now a normal thing for them which is disturbing, after losing without a goal against Nottingham Forest they still went on to lose against PSV, can this be a sign that Liverpool's manager slot is not the man for the job?

Opportunities will always be there, but achieving them won't be easy. The consistency they need is key to turning potential into tangible results. If they can truly fix this and learn from their mistakes, anything is possible in football. Hopefully, next week's match against West Ham will bring fresh air for Liverpool, but I think West Ham will certainly put up a fight for Liverpool, as they won't want to lose on their home turf.

At this point, we can only wish that if Liverpool will get back in their feet, they have to do so and try to do so as fast as possible or else, there's a stage they will get to, they will just look like the Manchester united of last season that where just playing for playing sake knowing they won't be related and won't also be qualifying for major trophy this season.

All the players are on serious pressure but just like any other team that has passed through moment as this, it's about having the ability to pull yourself together and fight to pull yourself off this mess. Playing the blame game won't solve anything because as the season progresses and they continue to perform badly, Thier  chance of ever coming back reduces and with time, their will be nothing the will be playing for any longer.

[eightdots]

With the level of inconsistency Liverpool are can they even make it to the top 4 and play champions league football next season? This has become something to worry about because the fans are still not sure of what will be their fate before the end of this year with how frequent the drop point, losing of games every week is now a normal thing for them which is disturbing, after losing without a goal against Nottingham Forest they still went on to lose against PSV, can this be a sign that Liverpool's manager slot is not the man for the job?

Opportunities will always be there, but achieving them won't be easy. The consistency they need is key to turning potential into tangible results. If they can truly fix this and learn from their mistakes, anything is possible in football. Hopefully, next week's match against West Ham will bring fresh air for Liverpool, but I think West Ham will certainly put up a fight for Liverpool, as they won't want to lose on their home turf.

At this point, we can only wish that if Liverpool will get back in their feet, they have to do so and try to do so as fast as possible or else, there's a stage they will get to, they will just look like the Manchester united of last season that where just playing for playing sake knowing they won't be related and won't also be qualifying for major trophy this season.

All the players are on serious pressure but just like any other team that has passed through moment as this, it's about having the ability to pull yourself together and fight to pull yourself off this mess. Playing the blame game won't solve anything because as the season progresses and they continue to perform badly, Thier  chance of ever coming back reduces and with time, their will be nothing the will be playing for any longer.

Only five points separate Liverpool from second place, and that's not a difficult point to close. If Liverpool recovers and starts playing well, they can close the gap. But can Liverpool recover from such poor performance? That's the real question.

The team is playing worse as their results continue to suffer. They need to find a way to turn this around. It's inconceivable that a team full of quality players could achieve such poor results.

[rachael9385]

The Chelsea vs. Arsenal game is nothing but going to end in a draw in my perspective. Arsenal is playing against Chelsea when they're a bit stable, coupled with their boosted morale from winning their Champions League victory encounter with Barcelona. Arsenal, too, on its side, has been the most stable team in England since the beginning of this season and would do everything possible not to entertain defeat at the hands of Chelsea. A preferred result for both teams is a draw.

This match is definitely going to be an interesting match and I also agree that both teams will be very cautious not to drop point. Chelsea seem to be at advantage because they are playing at home, but I don't think it's really going to count much. Chelsea seems to be carried away because of their win against Barcelona,  but I know it's going to be a very different game against Arsenal and I slightly believe that Arsenal is going to win the match, because Arsenal is the more consistent team and also in the best form right now. It's really going to be an interesting an well contested match, but I just feel Arsenal is going to edge them in the game. This is just my opinion on how I view the two teams this season.

It is going to be a tough game but i dont think Chelsea has what it takes to win Arsenal, if we are to compare them with bayern Munich I don't think they are capable of winning, their win against Barcelona doesn't really mean they can defeat arsenal in their current form. Arsenal are focused on winning both the the Premier league and ucl tittle, winning both might be difficult but the Premier league title is sure

[slapper]

Firing Arne Slot was a hasty decision, and in my opinion, a very bad one. It would be better if the club management conducted a thorough evaluation to determine the real problems within Liverpool and why they continue to lose. Liverpool's total expenditure this season reached £415 million, and the results should be commensurate with the club's achievements. It would be unwise to immediately blame Arne Slot for this problem. After the arrival of Alexander Isak from Newcastle United, Liverpool's performance immediately declined. Liverpool must find an immediate solution. Slot should be given a season to prove himself.

Was? Arne Slot hasn't still been sacked man. If you read it somewhere your source is wrong. Liverpool is still backing him interestingly. The fans must be criticizing this decision a lot of course.  

I remember how they acted with Klopp. They gave him a few years and Klopp carried the team to the top after it. However I don't feel the same thing with Arne Slot.

So far in the season Liverpool have the same amount of wins and losses in total, 10. 34 goals scored and 37 conceded.

Well he is not sacked yet, but you can sense that the club is already in that mode.Ten wins, ten losses is not a funny stat, it is the entire atmosphere: they are either flying or falling out of control, there is no middle ground. Not a stable project, that is chaos. and they have just followed that with, perhaps in 70+ years, the ugliest three game block in history: City 0-3, Forest 0-3 at Anfield, PSV 1-4 in Europe. That is the type of run that causes owners to call emergency meetings, which is just what has literally occurred

With Klopp, even when they finished 8th, it was like "okay, once this clicks and we refresh the squad, we're going somewhere". Later, with Slot, at 415m, I do not know what I am watching. They sold the chaos forwards, bought "technical" guys like Isak and Wirtz, but left the defence and midfield exposed and then still tried to play a crazy high line with a 34-year-old Van Dijk and a midfielder at right-back

[SUPERSAIAN]

With the level of inconsistency Liverpool are can they even make it to the top 4 and play champions league football next season? This has become something to worry about because the fans are still not sure of what will be their fate before the end of this year with how frequent the drop point, losing of games every week is now a normal thing for them which is disturbing, after losing without a goal against Nottingham Forest they still went on to lose against PSV, can this be a sign that Liverpool's manager slot is not the man for the job?

Opportunities will always be there, but achieving them won't be easy. The consistency they need is key to turning potential into tangible results. If they can truly fix this and learn from their mistakes, anything is possible in football. Hopefully, next week's match against West Ham will bring fresh air for Liverpool, but I think West Ham will certainly put up a fight for Liverpool, as they won't want to lose on their home turf.

At this point, we can only wish that if Liverpool will get back in their feet, they have to do so and try to do so as fast as possible or else, there's a stage they will get to, they will just look like the Manchester united of last season that where just playing for playing sake knowing they won't be related and won't also be qualifying for major trophy this season.

All the players are on serious pressure but just like any other team that has passed through moment as this, it's about having the ability to pull yourself together and fight to pull yourself off this mess. Playing the blame game won't solve anything because as the season progresses and they continue to perform badly, Thier  chance of ever coming back reduces and with time, their will be nothing the will be playing for any longer.

Liverpool can recover from their poor performance, but how soon? Or they might be too late. By then, Arsenal could widen their points gap significantly for now, it's just a few games away. As long as Liverpool continues like this, the gap will widen even further.

What happened to the old Liverpool? They've fallen into such a slump, even after signing some good players.

Only five points separate Liverpool from second place, and that's not a difficult point to close. If Liverpool recovers and starts playing well, they can close the gap. But can Liverpool recover from such poor performance? That's the real question.

The team is playing worse as their results continue to suffer. They need to find a way to turn this around. It's inconceivable that a team full of quality players could achieve such poor results.

[BitBakerr1]

With the level of inconsistency Liverpool are can they even make it to the top 4 and play champions league football next season? This has become something to worry about because the fans are still not sure of what will be their fate before the end of this year with how frequent the drop point, losing of games every week is now a normal thing for them which is disturbing, after losing without a goal against Nottingham Forest they still went on to lose against PSV, can this be a sign that Liverpool's manager slot is not the man for the job?

Opportunities will always be there, but achieving them won't be easy. The consistency they need is key to turning potential into tangible results. If they can truly fix this and learn from their mistakes, anything is possible in football. Hopefully, next week's match against West Ham will bring fresh air for Liverpool, but I think West Ham will certainly put up a fight for Liverpool, as they won't want to lose on their home turf.

At this point, we can only wish that if Liverpool will get back in their feet, they have to do so and try to do so as fast as possible or else, there's a stage they will get to, they will just look like the Manchester united of last season that where just playing for playing sake knowing they won't be related and won't also be qualifying for major trophy this season.

All the players are on serious pressure but just like any other team that has passed through moment as this, it's about having the ability to pull yourself together and fight to pull yourself off this mess. Playing the blame game won't solve anything because as the season progresses and they continue to perform badly, Thier  chance of ever coming back reduces and with time, their will be nothing the will be playing for any longer.

Only five points separate Liverpool from second place, and that's not a difficult point to close. If Liverpool recovers and starts playing well, they can close the gap. But can Liverpool recover from such poor performance? That's the real question.

The team is playing worse as their results continue to suffer. They need to find a way to turn this around. It's inconceivable that a team full of quality players could achieve such poor results.

I don't think Liverpool can recover or start performing well this season and is because they have something to put in place which I don't think they can put those things in place immediately it will take them time, the coach really needs to talk to his players very well because I believe they have very good players, Liverpool players are not performing very well and I really don't know why this is happening, Mohamed Salah don't perform as usual anymore in every match you really don't see his present anymore, the problem of Liverpool is actually their players and not the coach if their players can play as expected I believe Liverpool will start performing very well, but I don't see them performing well this season, there defense is very poor they should start working on their defense immediately.

[Just Say]

This match is definitely going to be an interesting match and I also agree that both teams will be very cautious not to drop point. Chelsea seem to be at advantage because they are playing at home, but I don't think it's really going to count much. Chelsea seems to be carried away because of their win against Barcelona,  but I know it's going to be a very different game against Arsenal and I slightly believe that Arsenal is going to win the match, because Arsenal is the more consistent team and also in the best form right now. It's really going to be an interesting an well contested match, but I just feel Arsenal is going to edge them in the game. This is just my opinion on how I view the two teams this season.

Chelsea and Arsenal are in their advantageous positions,Because we have noticed that these two PL giants have won very smoothly against two very heavyweight teams in the Champions League. Firstly, Chelsea are in a very buoyant mood after their UCL fifth round win over Barcelona but I understand that the upcoming game will be very different against Arsenal. It was largely correct that Arsenal came to win everything, however Arsenal could find themselves helpless against the Blues at Stamford Bridge, as the team has recently thrashed the Blaugranas on their own ground, so I believed that drama would definitely arise in this game between Arsenal vs Chelsea in the English Premier League.

[ITExpert]

For me I would say it depends on the team they are playing against, some teams if you dare go a man down against them, they would smoke you and score even more goals. Just imagine a lower ranked team in the Bundesliga going a man down against Bayern Munich of today, that team will certainly concede lots of goals. I do get your stand point of it being difficult for certain teams to win against a 10 men team because they will certainly play defence against that team, but their are certain teams, if you try doing that especially when you're a man down, they will use that opening spot to punish you.

Yes this is true but also nobody knows how much time Manchester United will take to play as a best team or successful to improve their performance. Because when Eric Ten Hag was coached the team then all the building of performance of the Manchester United has been down and the responsibility was on the shoulder of Eric Ten Hag. But after he separates his way from the team the team should be changed and shows a positive perspective that makes the fans believe that the Eric Ten Hag was responsible for their bad performances. And this is true that he was really not a good manager because what he did in the Bayern leverkusen was also not something to remember in good words. But Manchester United should take all their matters on a serious note and try to resolve all their problems so that they can get the best place for them in this field.

[Webutxo]

Was? Arne Slot hasn't still been sacked man. If you read it somewhere your source is wrong. Liverpool is still backing him interestingly. The fans must be criticizing this decision a lot of course.  

I remember how they acted with Klopp. They gave him a few years and Klopp carried the team to the top after it. However I don't feel the same thing with Arne Slot.

So far in the season Liverpool have the same amount of wins and losses in total, 10. 34 goals scored and 37 conceded.

He hasn't been fired but there is a warning and pressure from the club to put the team back in order. I have seen teams fall out but even in cold days, Liverpool has never been this unfortunate with the results I have seen. In Champions League and Premier League, everything looks rough and not good, if I'm among the directive of the club I'm going to do the same, put the team in good place or risk been fire and replace, they gave him money so he can't complain.

What is scary about Liverpool place now is that if they lose their next match in the Premier league and teams below win their matches, they will be closer to relegation. How can the almighty fall like that, when I look back Liverpool was among the top team in the first place in the Premier league while Arsenal was second but they are too far that even if they decide to be serious, they can't reach Arsenal again.

[Iroh]

It is going to be a tough game but i dont think Chelsea has what it takes to win Arsenal, if we are to compare them with bayern Munich I don't think they are capable of winning, their win against Barcelona doesn't really mean they can defeat arsenal in their current form. Arsenal are focused on winning both the the Premier league and ucl tittle, winning both might be difficult but the Premier league title is sure

It's surely going to be an interesting one to watch. I too don't envisage Chelsea winning the game against Arsenal when they meet. Chelsea is no small club either and having won 4 of their last 5 premier league matches, it's safe to say they're in a pretty good form with a good performance. But all of that will probably not be enough to stop Arsenal from claiming the 3 points that day. Arsenal seems to be more determined this season to win the title and are in amazing form themselves.
We may have both sides scoring as i belive Chelsea could strive hard and perhaps may be rewarded with a goal. On their champions league race, they're surely contenders.

[Nheer]

I don't think Liverpool can recover or start performing well this season and is because they have something to put in place which I don't think they can put those things in place immediately it will take them time, the coach really needs to talk to his players very well because I believe they have very good players, Liverpool players are not performing very well and I really don't know why this is happening, Mohamed Salah don't perform as usual anymore in every match you really don't see his present anymore, the problem of Liverpool is actually their players and not the coach if their players can play as expected I believe Liverpool will start performing very well, but I don't see them performing well this season, there defense is very poor they should start working on their defense immediately.

It might be difficult for them to recover and fight their way back up this season but they can still stabilize their performance and at least perform averagely rather than this mediocre performance they give. I don't think even the Coach knows what's wrong right now, no one does but I believe he is able to figure it out finding solutions shouldn't be that difficult because they have a lot of quality players and even though it doesn't happen this season they can bounce back next season and compete properly.

Mo Salah has really done so much for the club and if he can't perform like before I wouldn't blame him at all, he Is already getting past the age that he will be able to perform well in the premier league so I think from now on they should be thinking of replacing him instead of expecting much from him.