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December 16, 2025, 09:12:25 PM
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The final score was 4-4.

In this match, Manchester United's attack was indeed very good, but in terms of effectiveness, it was quite equal to Bournemouth's, with the same number of shots on target.

Man United did score four goals, but on the other hand, they also conceded four. Yes, this means their defense was that bad this time. Even though the front line played very well, their defense was so poor that they conceded four goals to Bournemouth. This is another homework for Amorim.


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The game was quite fascinating because of the numbers of goals scored, because we the neutral fan just want to see goals, and that was the goal feast we got in the game, but I was really disappointed in Manchester United for throwing away the three point at the closing stages of the match when they were in a winning position, because Ruben amorin should have brought in more defenders to defend and hold unto their lead till the final whistle, but he fails to do that, which was one of the reason they only went home with a point, instead of the whole three point, but if Manchester United really wants to qualify for a place in the uefa champions League next season, they needs to start winning games like this that they are not in their best, that's how a team with winning mentality are made., because you can't be at your best all the time, but if they can start winning when they are not at their best, it's going to help them a lot in improving their standing in the league table.

Game was great. If one side had won this match, i would be upset actually. Because both of them played very good. I watched all 90 minutes and the ball barely stopped for even a minute. There were 24 shots in the first half alone. By the end of the match, the total number of shots was close to 40. In extra time Manchewster United goalkeeper made incredible saves and earned his team that one point.
The game was great, but if Manchester United had defended their 4-3 lead and won Bournemouth, the game would have been greater. I was upset when the game ended 4-4 because i wanted Manchester United to beat Bournemouth. I only watched the first 45 minutes, and Manchester United was a little bit better than Bournemouth, but i stopped watching Manchester United vs Bournemouth game when Bournemouth scored their second goal in second half. Bournemouth had two opportunities to beat Manchester United, but Manchester United were lucky their goalkeeper stopped Bournemouth from winning them.

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December 16, 2025, 09:14:04 PM
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Chelsea cant compete at high level, is sad but true they are facing the exact same problems from last season, i really thinked in this one they can be a contender but after seeing how much they suffer the Caicedo and Palmer injuries i can affirm they are not longer a real contender in this year.

Maresca cant find the proper balance in the team.

I don't think Palmer and Caicdo absence will have affect Chelsea performance, the way some people say. We saw how they have been doing well since the start of the season without Palmer in the squad, he was injured in the game against Manchester United, which they lost, but I haven't seen any signs of weakness in their performance due to Palmer absent, even if Palmer does not recover on time, they have other players to play in that position.

There is still a chance for Chelsea to prove that they are still a title contender this season, they are only 8 points behind the table leader, we don't know what will happen in the next games, maybe Manchester City or Arsenal will lose, Chelsea might have the advantage to reduce the points difference. But I agree that l Caicedo absence is going to affect Chelsea since the midfield is not strong as it is when he is playing.

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December 16, 2025, 09:27:54 PM
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What a terrible performance by the Aston Villa team, at this stage it seems like this team is really going to keep the winning streak going because if I'm not mistaken they have won five PL matches in a row, as a result, this team has 5 more points than another Premier League giant, Chelsea, basically they achieved this feat with a lucky win against West Ham United on December 14th.

In that valuable game, a West Ham United player scored an own goal nine minutes into the game, in that case Aston Villa benefited the most, we have to admit that Aston Villa's luck is very good because this team also won against Arsenal with a very planned mentality.

It would be wrong to say that Aston Villas performance has been entirely poor. In fact they are going through a remarkable phase. In their last match  they defeated West Ham 3 - 2 & that too was an away game. Morgan Rogers brace and an own goal were all exceptional. This means they have won six consecutive matches in the EPL what  an outstanding run

From what I saw  they didnt play very well at the beginning of the match against West Ham. They conceded a goal in the very first minute. Towards the end of the game they regained some rhythm and scored two consecutive goals to snatch the three points. This victory was not just due to luck, they fought hard & played strategically to secure the three points. They have also recently defeated teams like Arsenal & Brighton. So I would say they definitely possess real power & are earning their victories through hard work and good play

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December 16, 2025, 11:44:49 PM
Last edit: December 16, 2025, 11:58:47 PM by TelolettOm
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I don't think Palmer and Caicdo absence will have affect Chelsea performance, the way some people say. We saw how they have been doing well since the start of the season without Palmer in the squad, he was injured in the game against Manchester United, which they lost, but I haven't seen any signs of weakness in their performance due to Palmer absent, even if Palmer does not recover on time, they have other players to play in that position.
Cole Palmer's absence may have had an impact on Chelsea. But, Chelsea is now much better, they have also some other great players, only their consistent that must be maintained and increased as always. Fortunately, in this EFL Cup, Chelsea can still compete, um, my point is, win against their opponents and advance to the next round. Chelsea still has Pedro Neto and Garnacho, who have also been quite influential in the club's performance.

In this match against Cardiff City, Garnacho and Pedro Neto were actually positioned as substitutes. However, both managed to score goals when they came on in the second half, and the score ended 1-3 in Chelsea's favor.

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December 17, 2025, 01:54:54 AM
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When there is a game like United vs Bournemouth game, the fans of those teams may not be happy with the result but the reality is that we are seeing a very fun game for rest of the world, and I think it's quite good for them to get the results that they want, because they really do deserve it.

I think betting on these games would be very fun too, imagine if you had over/under on this game and you said over, it would be very fun to watch, it would be a good bet too. Nobody in their right mind would bet on 7.5 over on goals of course lol, but 3.5 over or maybe even 4.5 over could have been possible and would make it very fun for them. This is what I was expecting for this game, a lot of goals but not as much as eight.

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December 17, 2025, 02:10:20 AM
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When there is a game like United vs Bournemouth game, the fans of those teams may not be happy with the result but the reality is that we are seeing a very fun game for rest of the world, and I think it's quite good for them to get the results that they want, because they really do deserve it.

I think betting on these games would be very fun too, imagine if you had over/under on this game and you said over, it would be very fun to watch, it would be a good bet too. Nobody in their right mind would bet on 7.5 over on goals of course lol, but 3.5 over or maybe even 4.5 over could have been possible and would make it very fun for them. This is what I was expecting for this game, a lot of goals but not as much as eight.

In an unbiased opinion, the games such as United vs Bournemouth are precisely what make the premier leagues so thrilling. The supporters of the participating teams may not be pleased with the outcome, whereas to the rest of the world it just amounts to entertainment. We are now witnessing more open games where teams are not afraid to attack and not playing safe and this will result in goals. Due to it, goal markets are frequently more intriguing than making an attempt to forecast a winner. Although nobody can take 7 or 8 goals seriously, they will not be unrealistic to go over 3.5 or even 4.5 in a game as such. The game can be experienced to be very entertaining even without wins, unlike a dull draw, when the bets are not successful, and the game is high-scoring and unpredictable.

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December 17, 2025, 02:18:37 AM
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When there is a game like United vs Bournemouth game, the fans of those teams may not be happy with the result but the reality is that we are seeing a very fun game for rest of the world, and I think it's quite good for them to get the results that they want, because they really do deserve it.

I think betting on these games would be very fun too, imagine if you had over/under on this game and you said over, it would be very fun to watch, it would be a good bet too. Nobody in their right mind would bet on 7.5 over on goals of course lol, but 3.5 over or maybe even 4.5 over could have been possible and would make it very fun for them. This is what I was expecting for this game, a lot of goals but not as much as eight.
It's a real shame about the draw, as winning at home is much better. Bournemouth haven't performed particularly well this season, judging by the current standings. However, it's actually a bad result for Manchester United, as they were held to a draw at home by Bournemouth. If we look at the betting results, those who bet on Bournemouth certainly profited from last night's result.

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This is like the summary of Manchester United this season. They have got better at scoring but guess what's the new issue now? The defending!  Grin  


I'm on your side in this matter. I never thought United would reach at least the top three in the table because of their weak defense combined with midfield issues that sometimes come back to bite them. Probably Arsenal, Man City, and Chelsea will be the three competing for the trophy at the closing stage. Someone may point to Aston Villawho are in the top three right now, but I regard them as accidental sitters there.

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December 17, 2025, 08:17:08 AM
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It's a real shame about the draw, as winning at home is much better. Bournemouth haven't performed particularly well this season, judging by the current standings. However, it's actually a bad result for Manchester United, as they were held to a draw at home by Bournemouth. If we look at the betting results, those who bet on Bournemouth certainly profited from last night's result.
Are you f***king kidding?
The way you are making it looks like as if their was a total dominance from Manchester United against Bournemouth, because if you are actually talking about the game I watch on Monday night, that was played at old Trafford, bro it was a game that would have gone either way, so their is nothing as real shame in this game.
Yea you might argue that Bournemouth has not been doing better this season judging by their current standings as you have said, but against Manchester United, they came out and went toe to toe with the Manchester United team, and that was the reason they even drew the game because they were brave and fearless to attack Manchester United at old Trafford.

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December 17, 2025, 08:44:42 AM
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Chelsea cant compete at high level, is sad but true they are facing the exact same problems from last season, i really thinked in this one they can be a contender but after seeing how much they suffer the Caicedo and Palmer injuries i can affirm they are not longer a real contender in this year.

Maresca cant find the proper balance in the team.
No they will not be a competitor for the Premier League title because they still cannot be consistent in their game even though the current position is still quite good because it is in position 4 for a while, it does not rule out the possibility that other teams will shift Chelsea's position.

It still takes a long time for Chelsea to become a competitor and a balanced game tat when they also lose in crucial matches, but if we have to be honest this is better for Chelsea now than Manchester United there is no progress at all.
Being fourth place isn't enough for premier league, not after this many games, it would require a miracle for them to win the league title. However, considering they haven't been amazing since the ownership change, I would guess that it's going to be quite possible for them to use this as stepping stone and get better. They have been getting rid of some of those players they had, for a while they had 40 players and that was very bad for them, and they are getting rid of some of them and getting better players instead.

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December 17, 2025, 09:38:22 AM
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Cole Palmer's absence may have had an impact on Chelsea. But, Chelsea is now much better, they have also some other great players, only their consistent that must be maintained and increased as always. Fortunately, in this EFL Cup, Chelsea can still compete, um, my point is, win against their opponents and advance to the next round. Chelsea still has Pedro Neto and Garnacho, who have also been quite influential in the club's performance.

In this match against Cardiff City, Garnacho and Pedro Neto were actually positioned as substitutes. However, both managed to score goals when they came on in the second half, and the score ended 1-3 in Chelsea's favor.

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Maresca just decided to rotate the starting lineup which was quite easy to understand. They have had a really tight schedule recently and this was an opportunity to rest his main players.

It is nice to see Garnacho scoring 2 goals. Because he hasn't been able to meet the expectations for a long time despite being given chances. He is making people excited with his playing style but the finishing could be way better than this actually.

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Chelsea cant compete at high level, is sad but true they are facing the exact same problems from last season, i really thinked in this one they can be a contender but after seeing how much they suffer the Caicedo and Palmer injuries i can affirm they are not longer a real contender in this year.

Maresca cant find the proper balance in the team.

I am repeating this again, that Chelsea has never been a title contender this season and I wonder why some people think they could contest for the title this season. Chelsea are not ready for the title because they have an immature team, that are not capable of pushing for the title. I believe most people were carried away because they won the club world cup, which in my opinion is a glorified pre season tournament. Chelsea are not consistent and they don't have the team to contest for the premier league right now, so let's stop putting them in the title conversation and reduce the expectation from them team.

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When there is a game like United vs Bournemouth game, the fans of those teams may not be happy with the result but the reality is that we are seeing a very fun game for rest of the world, and I think it's quite good for them to get the results that they want, because they really do deserve it.
I try not to miss every Manchester United match, including the draw against Bournemouth, even though it wasn't the time I was supposed to be staying up late. Given the play of both teams, the match was worth it, even though I had to stay up late because it was quite enjoyable, and I even thought Manchester United could win.
The excitement started after halftime with the score at 2-1 in favor of Manchester United. Manchester United should have won, but Bournemouth didn't want it to happen, and Kroupi thwarted Manchester United's chances of winning after Cunha's goal.

I think betting on these games would be very fun too, imagine if you had over/under on this game and you said over, it would be very fun to watch, it would be a good bet too. Nobody in their right mind would bet on 7.5 over on goals of course lol, but 3.5 over or maybe even 4.5 over could have been possible and would make it very fun for them. This is what I was expecting for this game, a lot of goals but not as much as eight.
Not many people bet on Over 3.5 before kickoff, and I wouldn't have chosen it unless both teams scored.

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December 17, 2025, 11:58:51 AM
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Chelsea cant compete at high level, is sad but true they are facing the exact same problems from last season, i really thinked in this one they can be a contender but after seeing how much they suffer the Caicedo and Palmer injuries i can affirm they are not longer a real contender in this year.

Maresca cant find the proper balance in the team.

I don't think Palmer and Caicdo absence will have affect Chelsea performance, the way some people say. We saw how they have been doing well since the start of the season without Palmer in the squad, he was injured in the game against Manchester United, which they lost, but I haven't seen any signs of weakness in their performance due to Palmer absent, even if Palmer does not recover on time, they have other players to play in that position.

There is still a chance for Chelsea to prove that they are still a title contender this season, they are only 8 points behind the table leader, we don't know what will happen in the next games, maybe Manchester City or Arsenal will lose, Chelsea might have the advantage to reduce the points difference. But I agree that l Caicedo absence is going to affect Chelsea since the midfield is not strong as it is when he is playing.
I do not know if Caicedo's absence from Chelsea team will affect Chelsea's performance, but Cole Palmer's absence from Chelsea team has already affected Chelsea's performance this season. Cole Palmer absence is part of the reason Chelsea is not consistent in winning their matches. Even if Chelsea has another player in Cole Palmer's position, will that player perform like Cole Palmer and win points for Chelsea the way Cole Palmer could have won for Chelsea? If Cole Palmer can recover on time, Chelsea can challenge for the title, but if Cole Palmer does not recover on time,  Chelsea can be a title contender.

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December 17, 2025, 12:15:43 PM
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Chelsea cant compete at high level, is sad but true they are facing the exact same problems from last season, i really thinked in this one they can be a contender but after seeing how much they suffer the Caicedo and Palmer injuries i can affirm they are not longer a real contender in this year.

Maresca cant find the proper balance in the team.

I don't think Palmer and Caicdo absence will have affect Chelsea performance, the way some people say. We saw how they have been doing well since the start of the season without Palmer in the squad, he was injured in the game against Manchester United, which they lost, but I haven't seen any signs of weakness in their performance due to Palmer absent, even if Palmer does not recover on time, they have other players to play in that position.

There is still a chance for Chelsea to prove that they are still a title contender this season, they are only 8 points behind the table leader, we don't know what will happen in the next games, maybe Manchester City or Arsenal will lose, Chelsea might have the advantage to reduce the points difference. But I agree that l Caicedo absence is going to affect Chelsea since the midfield is not strong as it is when he is playing.
With the way Chelsea performances have been recently, in the absence of Cole Palmer, I will agree with the fact that his absence in the team did not affect the performance of the team. However, the absence of Caicedo always shows. It may not show in some matches, like when they are playing against small teams, but for big teams it always shows. That means the absence of Caicedo does have an effect on the Chelsea team.for now, I don’t think anyone should take Chelsea out of this season’s Premier League contenders because we still have more games to be played, and there is an 8 points difference, which is possible for Chelsea to catch up with. So it is not bad for Chelsea to win the Premier League with their current form. Chelsea is really playing good football.



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December 17, 2025, 12:53:54 PM
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I do not know if Caicedo's absence from Chelsea team will affect Chelsea's performance, but Cole Palmer's absence from Chelsea team has already affected Chelsea's performance this season. Cole Palmer absence is part of the reason Chelsea is not consistent in winning their matches. Even if Chelsea has another player in Cole Palmer's position, will that player perform like Cole Palmer and win points for Chelsea the way Cole Palmer could have won for Chelsea? If Cole Palmer can recover on time, Chelsea can challenge for the title, but if Cole Palmer does not recover on time,  Chelsea can be a title contender.

I think both are crucial in influencing the outcome of the match. Most of the time, when both of these players are absent due to obvious reasons, namely injury, Chelsea really struggles to finish the match with a win. No player can truly 100% replace the two of them on the field, but for now, Cole Palmer has recovered from injury, just waiting for Caicedo to recover, because their next four opponents are quite difficult, so the presence of these two important players will be awaited.

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December 17, 2025, 01:30:12 PM
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I also thought Chelsea would be the main contender for the title when I saw their performance in the Club World Cup games that took place in the USA. I thought that with that good performance they would be consistent in the Premier League, but I see that the coach still hasn't managed to have a good, fixed starting eleven. He's constantly making changes to the team. The saddest thing is seeing that there are games where the team wins, but in the next game the coach changes the entire squad and formation, and then they lose. Honestly, I can't understand how the Chelsea coach's mind works.
Perhaps Enzo Maresca's constant rotation is an attempt to find a balance between intensity, squad depth, and schedule demands. While many have criticized him, flexibility is essential in a league as competitive as the Premier League. Maresca's tactics aren't inherently bad, although they may seem difficult to understand given Chelsea's performances in some matches. However, it's important to note that Maresca was able to revive Chelsea's performance after a change of ownership, and his squad was filled with young players, yet he was able to deliver major titles.

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What a strange player it is Garnacho he always seems to be at the gates of becoming a great player but he never cross that door, i mean in Manchester United and now here in Chelsea he always have some pretty good runs in which he score and assits but he can never maintain that performance for a long time and always ended up being relegated.

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December 17, 2025, 02:23:18 PM
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I also thought Chelsea would be the main contender for the title when I saw their performance in the Club World Cup games that took place in the USA. I thought that with that good performance they would be consistent in the Premier League, but I see that the coach still hasn't managed to have a good, fixed starting eleven. He's constantly making changes to the team. The saddest thing is seeing that there are games where the team wins, but in the next game the coach changes the entire squad and formation, and then they lose. Honestly, I can't understand how the Chelsea coach's mind works.

Lewis Cowill injured during the pre-season cost them a whole lot at the heart of the defence, they weren't all that but he had some solid combinations with Trevor Chalobah. I think the absence has made them porous to an extent. Secondly, what's the difference between Delap and Nicholas Jackson?! Delap hasn't been consistent and he's not really done the job as to why he was signed. Asides that, the Premier League Competition can never be the Fifa Club World Cup Competition. They're on a different level and intensity likewise Enzo Maresca,gambling with a lot of fixtures doing unnecessary tests with his sqaud. They're not there yet,and Enzo Maresca most likely to be sacked if he goes on this way!

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December 17, 2025, 03:57:30 PM
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When there is a game like United vs Bournemouth game, the fans of those teams may not be happy with the result but the reality is that we are seeing a very fun game for rest of the world, and I think it's quite good for them to get the results that they want, because they really do deserve it.

I think betting on these games would be very fun too, imagine if you had over/under on this game and you said over, it would be very fun to watch, it would be a good bet too. Nobody in their right mind would bet on 7.5 over on goals of course lol, but 3.5 over or maybe even 4.5 over could have been possible and would make it very fun for them. This is what I was expecting for this game, a lot of goals but not as much as eight.
A match that was beyond my expectations I thought the score for the Bournemouth vs Mancester United match would be under 4 but unexpectedly a flood of goals in the match 4-4. the supporters shouted every time to celebrate the goal. In the next match Manchester United should choose a score over. in my opinion is a good decision the last few Manchester United matches with big goals with a score above 3.5 there is no harm in guessing the over score for the Aston Villa vs Mancester United match this week.

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