Minimum Age to gamble

[OgNasty]

I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.

[passwordnow]

Yeah those minors don't care about it, their curiosity are very high and they really want to get anything that they want. Usually the user need to click whether he's already 18 years old or not, maybe for the first time he would click no and it make them can't enter the site.

And that's why if they are below the right age, they will have to click and agree with everything the casino asks them.

Then they will learn to use VPN and when they get asked with a same question, they will click yes even though they're not 18 years old.

There are casinos that will usually detect that you've got unusual activity upon usage of a VPN. That's why be careful with that and make sure that you're allowed to use it or ask it first through their support if it's okay. The usage of VPN won't detect the age of the users and that's why whether you're at the right age or not, better ask.

[lizarder]

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

I never know what kind of legal action will occur when minors gamble, because they can take other people's identity documents to verify KYC completely, be it their family or from other parties. Children now understand technology much more and they can even easily enter online gambling sites that exist for now in a way that they know. Legal action will make blocking of the account most likely and they will no longer be able to access the site and that's all I know about legal action.

So talking about the level of deterrent effect and others, it's not necessarily successful because of its online nature which can be entered in several other ways using KYC. Most commonly the age of 18 and over will be legal in online gambling because of this age limit some countries have issued identity cards that can bring them to the complete KYC stage.

[klidex]

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

I never know what kind of legal action will occur when minors gamble, because they can take other people's identity documents to verify KYC completely, be it their family or from other parties. Children now understand technology much more and they can even easily enter online gambling sites that exist for now in a way that they know. Legal action will make blocking of the account most likely and they will no longer be able to access the site and that's all I know about legal action.

So talking about the level of deterrent effect and others, it's not necessarily successful because of its online nature which can be entered in several other ways using KYC. Most commonly the age of 18 and over will be legal in online gambling because of this age limit some countries have issued identity cards that can bring them to the complete KYC stage.

Underage children nowadays really understand technology a lot and they know how to keep gambling, manipulating KYC data, borrowing friends who are older, or using any data that shows if the child does not appear to be a minor.
But all of that will end if one day winning big has to fill in complete KYC level 3 data which makes it difficult for the child to take care of it because the data borrowed by someone will definitely be difficult to complete KYC level 3 and there is no other choice but to have an account ready or the funds will be banned .

[ChiBitCTy]

I traveled to Berkley California a few years ago to stay with a buddy at his uncles house.  While making the trip we made our way up to Lake Tahoe and I remember having an absolute blast and being able to gamble a little bit even though I was only 20 years old at the time.  I was surprised to see that there were other states outside of California that actually allowed for those under 21 years of age to gamble.

I may have enjoyed gambling being under 21, but I think the age should stick to 21.  People tend to be pretty immature even at that age, so I'm not sure it's wise for 18-19 year old's to be given that much freedom.

[TelolettOm]

for crypto casinos maybe KYC verification is more organized. but for other online casinos, especially those that focus on access with fiat or even those with applications such as slot games. Data verification is rarely important in games like that.

I don't see the difference between crypto casinos and other online casinos. KYC should be organized and the verification must be important. Any type of casinos will follow the same rules, they must exclude the underage. But the problem is on the way to validate the data, it is always a chance to manipulate it, no matter how strict the process is.

still, children who are still in school or not old enough according to regulations can still access gambling applications. After all, there are people who do not like KYC, and some casinos and gambling sites can make it easy for them to keep playing.

In each country, the age limit can be different. But generally, school kids shouldn't join gambling since they are actually underage. They are not mature enough to play gambling, it may lead to early addiction.

[Webetcoins]

That is very complicated. There's no time for regulators to identify who the parents are. The easiest way for them to take action is to sue the site for allowing minors. Of course, no gambling sites would permit a minor to gamble. Even if they don't require KYC at first, once you sign up with the site, you agree that you are not underage. However, in some cases, individuals may easily lie.

Therefore, as parents, we have a duty to always control what children access. In the case of those who misuse personal data, things like using data from the internet, stealing and currently a lot of personal data are also being sold. It's hard to appreciate, apart from being the parents' job, who really have to be able to monitor the child's movements when they are identified as accessing gambling.

Unfortunately, most parents don't do that these days, they give their children everything they want, mobiles, laptops, gaming consoles, internet devices, and everything else, and they don't even check what they do on them, that is the reason why many minors are seen gambling and even taking very rash decisions, some even reaching the stage where they commit suicide because they have spent money meant for other things on their gambling addiction.

All these things must be under the control of the parents, so that the children don't go out of hand and only do things that are not harmful for them and their parents, and if they do something like that, I would blame the parents more than the children themselves because they are not yet mature enough.

[darewaller]

The purpose of KYC procedure is to eliminate the underage and the people from restricted countries. But there is always a chance for people to manipulate the data, they can use fake data to register on the casino sites. Casino must have a good mechanism to validate the data, but Casino has no ability to know who is the real user of the account. As I said above, underage can use his parents data, while people from restricted area can use other people data from permitted area. No mechanism is perfect, even a strong security can be hacked by scammers.

There are many purposes of KYC not just the two that you mentioned. There is that; It is used for the government to get involved in the casino so that they can legally tax them. KYC can also be used to possibly prevent or reduce the fraudulent activity inside the casino.

If the casino is not strict enough in terms of KYC verifications then yes it can be bypassed easily if the gambler is also wise enough. Inside job can also happen where the casino can get bribes in exchange of immediate access and these gamblers will not be asked by a KYC in the future. There are casinos who doesn't mandate a KYC but only restrict some certain countries. This can easily be bypassed by using a VPN but this was still risky because our accounts or withdrawals can get blocked later on.

[Hispo]

The purpose of KYC procedure is to eliminate the underage and the people from restricted countries. But there is always a chance for people to manipulate the data, they can use fake data to register on the casino sites. Casino must have a good mechanism to validate the data, but Casino has no ability to know who is the real user of the account. As I said above, underage can use his parents data, while people from restricted area can use other people data from permitted area. No mechanism is perfect, even a strong security can be hacked by scammers.

... There are casinos who doesn't mandate a KYC but only restrict some certain countries. This can easily be bypassed by using a VPN but this was still risky because our accounts or withdrawals can get blocked later on.

In my opinion, it is not worth it; to risk one's money for the sake of gambling without going through the KYC process.
It is just better to stick to reputable a long standing casinos and services, at least one can assume that they would gather and store our information in a safe way.

While, I can understand why people would go for non-KYC ones, using a VPN to bypass the ToS of the casino is foolish.

[Quidat]

The purpose of KYC procedure is to eliminate the underage and the people from restricted countries. But there is always a chance for people to manipulate the data, they can use fake data to register on the casino sites. Casino must have a good mechanism to validate the data, but Casino has no ability to know who is the real user of the account. As I said above, underage can use his parents data, while people from restricted area can use other people data from permitted area. No mechanism is perfect, even a strong security can be hacked by scammers.

There are many purposes of KYC not just the two that you mentioned. There is that; It is used for the government to get involved in the casino so that they can legally tax them. KYC can also be used to possibly prevent or reduce the fraudulent activity inside the casino.

If the casino is not strict enough in terms of KYC verifications then yes it can be bypassed easily if the gambler is also wise enough. Inside job can also happen where the casino can get bribes in exchange of immediate access and these gamblers will not be asked by a KYC in the future. There are casinos who doesn't mandate a KYC but only restrict some certain countries. This can easily be bypassed by using a VPN but this was still risky because our accounts or withdrawals can get blocked later on.

Yes i do agree on which KYC would really be imposing different functions on which it would really be that kind of security on assuring that no minors would be able to play or it would really be a way that it would really be making that someone get that been tracked or would really be monitored out when it comes into their spending on which we know that government doesnt really like for them on getting behind or getting blinded when it comes to money which are really that being used on this space which we know that it is really that too big for them to miss out.
We do know that they do really love that taxation everywhere and here or anywhere. 

[knowngunman]

I never know what kind of legal action will occur when minors gamble, because they can take other people's identity documents to verify KYC completely, be it their family or from other parties. Children now understand technology much more and they can even easily enter online gambling sites that exist for now in a way that they know. Legal action will make blocking of the account most likely and they will no longer be able to access the site and that's all I know about legal action.

Some gamble site here in my country will frustrate you when you use third party identity to complete your KYC because you can not be able to withdraw your funds unless you bind your account. To bind account successfully, the name on the account has to tally with the name on the identity submitted for KYC otherwise both your deposit and winning is gone. You can decide to use others identity to bypass the age requirement but I don't think one will be comfortable to use others account too.

I don't know how they're operating in your country but that's how it works here. Although minors are still playing offline where you'll just walk into one of their agent shop and place your bets without having to open account with them. There's a banner placed everywhere around those shops with caption "under 18 not allowed" but children of ten years are gambling.

[Jody.Drummer]

That is very complicated. There's no time for regulators to identify who the parents are. The easiest way for them to take action is to sue the site for allowing minors. Of course, no gambling sites would permit a minor to gamble. Even if they don't require KYC at first, once you sign up with the site, you agree that you are not underage. However, in some cases, individuals may easily lie.

Therefore, as parents, we have a duty to always control what children access. In the case of those who misuse personal data, things like using data from the internet, stealing and currently a lot of personal data are also being sold. It's hard to appreciate, apart from being the parents' job, who really have to be able to monitor the child's movements when they are identified as accessing gambling.

Unfortunately, most parents don't do that these days, they give their children everything they want, mobiles, laptops, gaming consoles, internet devices, and everything else, and they don't even check what they do on them, that is the reason why many minors are seen gambling and even taking very rash decisions, some even reaching the stage where they commit suicide because they have spent money meant for other things on their gambling addiction.

All these things must be under the control of the parents, so that the children don't go out of hand and only do things that are not harmful for them and their parents, and if they do something like that, I would blame the parents more than the children themselves because they are not yet mature enough.

Yes, parents are the first people who should be questioned why their underage children can access gambling sites, I mean when they give freedom to hold cellphones for example, they should also control what their children do with their cellphones. I think it is quite easy to see slightly different behavior when their children have become users who play gambling. From money for example, surely children who are still minors have money from their parents' gifts, and as parents must have set aside how much their monthly / weekly / daily money is, when they look more extravagant then it is suspicious which then must be followed up.

Maybe we will think as parents we should check our children's cellphones frequently, but in my opinion it is less effective because children who are still minors now may be more adept at using cellphones than their parents. Although we also have to do that.

[pawel7777]

Yes, parents are the first people who should be questioned why their underage children can access gambling sites, I mean when they give freedom to hold cellphones for example, they should also control what their children do with their cellphones. I think it is quite easy to see slightly different behavior when their children have become users who play gambling. From money for example, surely children who are still minors have money from their parents' gifts, and as parents must have set aside how much their monthly / weekly / daily money is, when they look more extravagant then it is suspicious which then must be followed up.

Sometimes it really looks like most parents in so-called developed countries don't even try to raise their children, they just feed them, cloth them, buy them stuff and outsource looking after them to schools or nurseries.
Controlling what kids do on their phones gets almost impossible when we're talking about late teens. If you didn't teach your kids self-control and installed proper values by then, there's not much you can do.
In terms of preventing them from gambling, the best you could do is control their finances and monitor their spending. To gamble online they'd have to make an online deposit, for which you'd need a bank account. I don't even know if it'd be possible to make such deposit from a junior account.

[slapper]

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Yes, parents are the first people who should be questioned why their underage children can access gambling sites, I mean when they give freedom to hold cellphones for example, they should also control what their children do with their cellphones. I think it is quite easy to see slightly different behavior when their children have become users who play gambling. From money for example, surely children who are still minors have money from their parents' gifts, and as parents must have set aside how much their monthly / weekly / daily money is, when they look more extravagant then it is suspicious which then must be followed up.

Maybe we will think as parents we should check our children's cellphones frequently, but in my opinion it is less effective because children who are still minors now may be more adept at using cellphones than their parents. Although we also have to do that.

Interesting points, especially about parents' online monitoring of their children. Let's start with the concept that parents must strictly restrict their children's internet use. That's right. A parent must monitor their child's phone use, especially gambling sites. In keeping with your thesis, a child's behaviour, especially around money, may indicate gambling addiction. Extravagance may be suspicious.

I disagree that checking a child's phone regularly is "less effective" owing to their strong digital skills. Even if today's kids are tech-savvy, parents must be vigilant and discuss proper online behaviour.

[mvdheuvel1983]

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

I have never seen any underage gambling being exposed. The minimum age to gamble should be 21 years. And anyone one below such age found gambling should be punished. I mean legal action should be taken against the person. I suggest that individuals be made to write an essay on negative effect of gambling addiction on underaged gamblers. They should also have the person sit through lectures on gambling addiction and attend Gambling Anonymous meetings. This is to enable see firsthand the inherent dangers of gambling when it goes out of hand.

[Zoomic]

I was wondering the essence of the picture when there is a unified age range for both Poker, Casino and Sports betting. Are there differences in the risk level of the 3?
In my country, the age is 18+ but I think the law should be amended. This is because some people are 18 and yet no source of income. It should be when an individual is able to earn, that is when they should gamble.

[Aikidoka]

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Are there differences in the risk level of the 3?

I don't believe there's a huge difference in the risk among the three options. All of them carry risks, and there isn't one that is safer than the others. However, there might be variations in age restrictions, such as in Florida or Connecticut where poker may have a higher age restriction compared to gambling in a casino or sports betting. This could be probably that poker is potentially less addictive than other forms of gambling. However, this is purly based on my own guess.

In my country, people can gamble even at a younger age. Personally, I have witnessed some underage gamblers participating in sports betting on a weekly basis without any apparent issues. It's possible that they are engaging in illegal gambling and keeping it a secret from the government.

[Rengga Jati]

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

In the past, I once made a topic about age limits in several countries for gambling. And surprisingly, there are those who, in my opinion, are still under-aged but are allowed in certain countries. Here are the lists (don't know if there are changes or not).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230360.msg53962700#msg53962700

But for other things related to online casinos, maybe this will be different. Because there are some casinos that do require YC to become their users. However, what about casinos that don't need KYC, then this won't be a problem. In this case, actually gambling for children or under-age needs control from parents, because emotionally, they are usually more unstable. It is feared that there are some negative effects that easily attack them.

[alegotardo]

I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

In a physical casino, the entry of people who do not have the minimum age can generate very serious consequences for the establishment, from heavy fines to the interdiction of the place and collection of the permission to operate.

However, in an online casino it is much more difficult to apply punishments for two reasons:
The first is the difficulty in finding or finding evidence that these people are gambling;
Second is the impossibility of imposing fines or restricting access to the site if it is operating on a site that is hosted outside the jurisdiction where the crime was caught.

So, I think it's worth making a complaint, if possible, to the body that issued your operating license or to the competent local authorities, but I don't advise you to spend more efforts than that to try to reach a punishment for the site that is committing this offense.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21.

Well, I can assure you that this is the first time I have heard this. All my life, I have always known that gambling is just for 18-year-olds. Even in my country, it's the same thing as what you thought, but you will even see some 16- and 17-year-old kids gambling here.