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July 07, 2023, 06:00:04 PM |
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So it still depends on the country? because other countries allow 18 and above, but to others it is 21. Though it is really better to be 21 because we are mature enough at that time, this again depends on the law. Even though the risk is still present, meaning all of us can get addicted no matter what our age is, having this age limit is best because we know that those teens are very prone to addiction and easily get influenced by others.
more clearly if someone who starts gambling when they are over 18+ they have better self-control compared to minors who are very vulnerable to emotions that cannot be controlled, causing addiction. this age limit is actually not very successful in preventing minors but especially for online gambling but for physical gambling the age limit will really help minors avoid gambling. because if in a physical casino when entering a gambling place you will always be asked for the identity of gambling security but for online casinos minors can use fake data to still be able to gamble. Actually people that are 18 ain't mentally much different than 15 y.o. people. I know how dumb I was when I was 18 and I can tell there wasn't a great difference with my 15 years old self. So just because a person is over 18 doesn't mean he will make wise choices instantly. Most people stay dumb till their 30's and some people stay dumb forever till they die. On the other hand I've seen 15 y.o. kids that are way smarter than most adults. These kids were able to think and act like an adult. It is like they were living their 2nd or 3rd life... But let's be honest most people ain't like that. I think age shouldn't only be the basis but rather the status of a person, financially and emotionally. We all know how challenging gambling is and we also know our capability before to handle things when we were 18. I don't think that age is already mature enough to deal with the challenges of gambling. Decision making is quite hard to handle and it requires the right mindset to create a good one. A person should be mentally prepared before he enters gambling and must have a stable income. Because you can be mature at 18 but unstable so you might only be risking your parent's funds. It's better to gamble when you already have your own source of income than when you're still relying on others. The ability to sustain gambling should be the basis and not just the age.
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July 07, 2023, 11:59:09 PM |
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I think age shouldn't only be the basis but rather the status of a person, financially and emotionally. We all know how challenging gambling is and we also know our capability before to handle things when we were 18. I don't think that age is already mature enough to deal with the challenges of gambling. Decision making is quite hard to handle and it requires the right mindset to create a good one. A person should be mentally prepared before he enters gambling and must have a stable income. Because you can be mature at 18 but unstable so you might only be risking your parent's funds. It's better to gamble when you already have your own source of income than when you're still relying on others. The ability to sustain gambling should be the basis and not just the age.
That's why the age limit are varied. In some countries or certain casinos, the age limit can be above 20 years old. They think the same as you, 18 years old is still not mature enough. However, no guarantee that 20+ will be mature enough, the development of mentality each person can be different. So, it will be difficult to determine when someone is mature enough. It is something related to their educational background, genetical factor, and the environmental influences. In this matter, how you determine the basis is? I'm not sure if casinos are eager to assess/observe each new member with complex/complicated indicators.
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July 08, 2023, 04:33:45 PM |
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I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.
Isn't there a specific age for the military recruitment process as well? I think there is, it might differ from the age limit when you are allowed to gamble in a certain jurisdiction, but they are two different things altogether. Even if you can go for the military a couple of years earlier than when you can gamble, those two years or so will go only into training and learning the ways of the military and for them to determine if you are really capable of what it takes. In some countries, the age limit for all these things basically starts at the same age, if you can't gamble when you are 20, you also can't join the army at that age, so for you to be considered mature and a proper adult, you will have to be at least 21, which is 18 in most countries.
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July 08, 2023, 07:58:35 PM |
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I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.
Isn't there a specific age for the military recruitment process as well? I think there is, it might differ from the age limit when you are allowed to gamble in a certain jurisdiction, but they are two different things altogether. Even if you can go for the military a couple of years earlier than when you can gamble, those two years or so will go only into training and learning the ways of the military and for them to determine if you are really capable of what it takes. In some countries, the age limit for all these things basically starts at the same age, if you can't gamble when you are 20, you also can't join the army at that age, so for you to be considered mature and a proper adult, you will have to be at least 21, which is 18 in most countries. Most forces require an age of at least 17 years old before they can join any recruitment that involves wearing a force's uniform, it might differ in other countries but mostly, someone has to be 17 years. But since we are here in the gambling industry and talking about the minimum age to gamble, I don't think that military and casinos have something in common as the age requirement is also different as most platforms requires you to be at least 21 years old before you can start your activity and withdraw some funds if ever you're lucky.
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July 08, 2023, 08:06:51 PM |
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I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.
Isn't there a specific age for the military recruitment process as well? I think there is, it might differ from the age limit when you are allowed to gamble in a certain jurisdiction, but they are two different things altogether. Even if you can go for the military a couple of years earlier than when you can gamble, those two years or so will go only into training and learning the ways of the military and for them to determine if you are really capable of what it takes. In some countries, the age limit for all these things basically starts at the same age, if you can't gamble when you are 20, you also can't join the army at that age, so for you to be considered mature and a proper adult, you will have to be at least 21, which is 18 in most countries. Most forces require an age of at least 17 years old before they can join any recruitment that involves wearing a force's uniform, it might differ in other countries but mostly, someone has to be 17 years. But since we are here in the gambling industry and talking about the minimum age to gamble, I don't think that military and casinos have something in common as the age requirement is also different as most platforms requires you to be at least 21 years old before you can start your activity and withdraw some funds if ever you're lucky. Usually it would really be 18+ just like on what we do saw on those advertise and precautions specially on adult things like liquors or even on cigarretes on which the recommended age would really be on that bracket which it do turns out that this would really be that global standard for a certain individual would really be that legally be allowed on engaging up on these things on which i would definitely say that it is really just that right on which people should really be that matured enough on dealing up with something which is really that risky and not really that somewhat safe. It does really need up that proper way of treating things for you to be able to make yourself that stay away on things or could possibly happen which it isnt really that good. If you do make yourself get involved into things which arent supposed to be involved by young minds then you are really that putting yourself into such big trouble when things becomes more severe.
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July 08, 2023, 08:23:33 PM |
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In my opinion, age restrictions have never worked and never will. We are all well aware that minors used to be able to gamble only on the street, but now they have another option - gambling on the Internet. This option requires a little more skill, but it's also a lot faster. I've been gambling since I was a kid and I can say with certainty that today's minors are worse protected from gambling.
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July 09, 2023, 06:51:14 PM |
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So it still depends on the country? because other countries allow 18 and above, but to others it is 21. Though it is really better to be 21 because we are mature enough at that time, this again depends on the law. Even though the risk is still present, meaning all of us can get addicted no matter what our age is, having this age limit is best because we know that those teens are very prone to addiction and easily get influenced by others.
more clearly if someone who starts gambling when they are over 18+ they have better self-control compared to minors who are very vulnerable to emotions that cannot be controlled, causing addiction. this age limit is actually not very successful in preventing minors but especially for online gambling but for physical gambling the age limit will really help minors avoid gambling. because if in a physical casino when entering a gambling place you will always be asked for the identity of gambling security but for online casinos minors can use fake data to still be able to gamble. Actually people that are 18 ain't mentally much different than 15 y.o. people. I know how dumb I was when I was 18 and I can tell there wasn't a great difference with my 15 years old self. So just because a person is over 18 doesn't mean he will make wise choices instantly. Most people stay dumb till their 30's and some people stay dumb forever till they die. On the other hand I've seen 15 y.o. kids that are way smarter than most adults. These kids were able to think and act like an adult. It is like they were living their 2nd or 3rd life... But let's be honest most people ain't like that. Yes, that's quite funny mate and I definitely agree to the words you are saying because that is true. I also don't feel the difference when I was still 15 years old and even when I'm already 20 years old, I may have a bit of improvement but my priorities and mindset are somehow the same. Everything are almost the same because even a 20 years old can still be called a teenager, not by term but by choices that they made. Hence why casinos and online casinos are requiring the gamblers to be at least 21 years old and above because by that time, most people do know how to weigh some things.
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July 09, 2023, 07:15:00 PM |
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Yes, that's quite funny mate and I definitely agree to the words you are saying because that is true. I also don't feel the difference when I was still 15 years old and even when I'm already 20 years old, I may have a bit of improvement but my priorities and mindset are somehow the same. Everything are almost the same because even a 20 years old can still be called a teenager, not by term but by choices that they made.
Hence why casinos and online casinos are requiring the gamblers to be at least 21 years old and above because by that time, most people do know how to weigh some things.
I agree, by that time people are starting to know each capabilities and interest. We started to develop our brains and as well as they way we think, environment play a big role in our character development. Teens with younger age are very impulsive and easy to be targetted by other people , most of them cannot manager their greed inside and when they can't control it , it will become problem in the future.
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July 09, 2023, 07:34:41 PM |
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In my opinion, age restrictions have never worked and never will. We are all well aware that minors used to be able to gamble only on the street, but now they have another option - gambling on the Internet. This option requires a little more skill, but it's also a lot faster. I've been gambling since I was a kid and I can say with certainty that today's minors are worse protected from gambling.
You are right, i dont think age restriction will ever work when in comes to gambling, their are lots of gambling sites now which you can gamble whenever you like at any moment, and most of those gambling sites those not require kyc, so anybody can gamble, even under age can gamble their, and even the gambling sites which requires kyc, some underage are always using their parents identity to complete their kyc. So stopping underage from gambling will be really difficult now, because new gambling sites are being created daily and all what they care about is the money they are going to make, they dont care if underage are gambling.
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July 09, 2023, 09:38:25 PM |
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Usually it would really be 18+ just like on what we do saw on those advertise and precautions specially on adult things like liquors or even on cigarretes on which the recommended age would really be on that bracket which it do turns out that this would really be that global standard for a certain individual would really be that legally be allowed on engaging up on these things on which i would definitely say that it is really just that right on which people should really be that matured enough on dealing up with something which is really that risky and not really that somewhat safe. It does really need up that proper way of treating things for you to be able to make yourself that stay away on things or could possibly happen which it isnt really that good. If you do make yourself get involved into things which arent supposed to be involved by young minds then you are really that putting yourself into such big trouble when things becomes more severe. Do we have a consensus that 18 is the 'Magic Age' when one can indulge in potentially harmful substances, like alcohol or cigarettes? Yes... and no. Consider Japan, where the legal drinking age is 20, or some states in the USA where smoking isn't allowed until 21. Thus, we have to ask ourselves, "Is 18 really a 'global standard' or just a 'frequent tendency'?" Mmm? You're right in saying that maturity plays a role in making decisions that could lead to risky situations. Still, could we not argue that everyone matures at different rates? There are 16-year-olds who might exhibit greater restraint than some 30-year-olds when it comes to risky behaviour. Also, let's not forget the role of education in preventing harmful behaviours. Should we not, perhaps, focus more on that, rather than relying solely on age restrictions? Maturity and age, while often correlated, are not always causally linked, wouldn't you agree?
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In my opinion, age restrictions have never worked and never will. We are all well aware that minors used to be able to gamble only on the street, but now they have another option - gambling on the Internet. This option requires a little more skill, but it's also a lot faster. I've been gambling since I was a kid and I can say with certainty that today's minors are worse protected from gambling.
You are right, i dont think age restriction will ever work when in comes to gambling, their are lots of gambling sites now which you can gamble whenever you like at any moment, and most of those gambling sites those not require kyc, so anybody can gamble, even under age can gamble their, and even the gambling sites which requires kyc, some underage are always using their parents identity to complete their kyc. So stopping underage from gambling will be really difficult now, because new gambling sites are being created daily and all what they care about is the money they are going to make, they dont care if underage are gambling. Even every site would really be having that kind of pop up in regarding about asking your age, then youngster would really be just simply be agreeing those things on a single click then you can already play directly without being known on whats your real age. This is one of the con's about technology and the current accessibility that we do have today or era on which people would easily be having access because of the internet. Things do only get bust up on the time that there would really be some verification or would really be submitting KYC but on the time that it isnt really happening then for sure these minors would really be that free on roaming around, as long they do have the funds or money for them to play then they would easily get involved with such activity on which we know that gambling is really indeed that very risky if you arent really that mindful about its certain risks.This is why we should really be mindful on telling our kids if ever we do have one about the risk on doing gambling so that they would really be that aware.
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July 10, 2023, 06:42:44 AM |
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I think age shouldn't only be the basis but rather the status of a person, financially and emotionally. We all know how challenging gambling is and we also know our capability before to handle things when we were 18. I don't think that age is already mature enough to deal with the challenges of gambling. Decision making is quite hard to handle and it requires the right mindset to create a good one. A person should be mentally prepared before he enters gambling and must have a stable income. Because you can be mature at 18 but unstable so you might only be risking your parent's funds. It's better to gamble when you already have your own source of income than when you're still relying on others. The ability to sustain gambling should be the basis and not just the age.
Well, what you said does apply in some cases but that isn't always the case, some people get mature even before they become 18 and fortunately for them, their parents are so rich that they won't even have to work if they don't want to as they have multiple businesses of their own so he can simply sit and eat his whole life and he would still not be able to spend all the money, in such cases, the status or emotional stability doesn't count and only the age does. So someone who is 18 or maybe even below that, they shouldn't be allowed to gamble since it will ruin them and they might not be able to have a good future. Just because someone is rich and has a lot of money from his inheritance it doesn't mean they can't ruin themselves through gambling.
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July 10, 2023, 02:48:36 PM |
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In my opinion, age restrictions have never worked and never will. We are all well aware that minors used to be able to gamble only on the street, but now they have another option - gambling on the Internet. This option requires a little more skill, but it's also a lot faster. I've been gambling since I was a kid and I can say with certainty that today's minors are worse protected from gambling.
Unless their parents strictly supervise their children in using the device, they will not be able to play gambling easily. But it is also true that today's children are so much smarter than in our time that they can still secretly visit any website they want. And I agree with you that today's children are more protected from gambling and everything else because they can access it easily using their devices. For this reason, supervision and explanation from parents are needed about the dangers of gambling so that their children know that gambling is dangerous.
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling. Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble? Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2Fq5pnmqV%2Fagee.jpg&t=665&c=_6jhOgOw-SjWTw) That is enough age to start gambling and I believe that most casino are open to let 18 years old to play , while in other countries there are even younger that is accepted , there are some that lets their youngsters to play even 15? and also gambling is a bread and butter even of a government that lets them try finding way to take bigger part from players . In my opinion, age restrictions have never worked and never will. We are all well aware that minors used to be able to gamble only on the street, but now they have another option - gambling on the Internet. This option requires a little more skill, but it's also a lot faster. I've been gambling since I was a kid and I can say with certainty that today's minors are worse protected from gambling.
absolutely but at least OP is pointing to legalities , we have so much gambling happening in internet and out that cannot handle to watch if the players are kids or not .
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Why there are even age restrictions in gambling? Because people dont realize consequences of addiction? Go out on a street and it wont take long until you find a kid <18 yo or even 13-15 yo smoking cigarettes or electronic cigarettes. Kids at 15 or 16 are allowed to get married (lol, marriage can cause even more problems (mental) to kids at that age than gambling). It is even more responsibility. Yet some states allow to gamble from 21. Funny. This is like a joke, when father come to his son and say that they gonna have a serious conversation about sex, and a kid reply "ok, what you want to find out?" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.
I thought so too. But when I watched American movies, they always ask if the one ordering the drinks is 21, so I guess that the same age for gambling there. Here in our country, it's 18+ to be able to gamble but I don't think that is being applied as recently I went to the newly created cock fighting arena here in my place and I saw a lot of young people. The thing is, they don't ask for ID's here as long as they think you are old enough to gamble by just judging in their faces. For me though, I saw my neighbors there who are still in high school or maybe younger, they just have a bigger body build and some facial hair so they won't be suspected. I think it's only the online gambling sites that are strict about these rules but then again there's always a way for young people to bypass that but using either their parents' ID or their friends who are at the right age.
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July 11, 2023, 10:32:25 AM |
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I grew up in California and always thought the gambling age was 18. I’m a bit surprised to learn that in most of the country it is 21. I guess that makes sense with all the drinks flowing in Vegas. Still, a bit surprising to think that you can go to war and die for this country to fight for freedom, but can’t put a penny in a slot machine.
I thought so too. But when I watched American movies, they always ask if the one ordering the drinks is 21, so I guess that the same age for gambling there. Here in our country, it's 18+ to be able to gamble but I don't think that is being applied as recently I went to the newly created cock fighting arena here in my place and I saw a lot of young people. The thing is, they don't ask for ID's here as long as they think you are old enough to gamble by just judging in their faces. For me though, I saw my neighbors there who are still in high school or maybe younger, they just have a bigger body build and some facial hair so they won't be suspected. I think it's only the online gambling sites that are strict about these rules but then again there's always a way for young people to bypass that but using either their parents' ID or their friends who are at the right age. I'm also not aware that the legal age is 21, I also thought that it was 18, because at 18 you have the rights to vote already and maybe even drink liquor or something. But gambling might be very different as they have to increased the age to 21 to go inside a casino and they have the right to deny entry if they suspect that the person might be of underage or something as most Asians looks very young at their age. Hopefully online gambling sites are going to be strict about this rules because obviously, it's not physical and you don't know they are dealing with. Maybe it was just a kid behind the keyboard betting on their platform.
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July 11, 2023, 11:00:57 AM |
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Why there are even age restrictions in gambling? Because people dont realize consequences of addiction? Go out on a street and it wont take long until you find a kid <18 yo or even 13-15 yo smoking cigarettes or electronic cigarettes. Kids at 15 or 16 are allowed to get married (lol, marriage can cause even more problems (mental) to kids at that age than gambling). It is even more responsibility. Yet some states allow to gamble from 21. Funny. This is like a joke, when father come to his son and say that they gonna have a serious conversation about sex, and a kid reply "ok, what you want to find out?" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Restrictions in gambling are made and implemented to protect the youth from the consequences of gambling at a young age. Since these people do not have the full capacity to decide yet, meaning they are still vulnerable and naive. They might not fully know or understand the repercussions of gambling especially if ever they would experience a loss. It might take a toll on their mental health that could lead them to do things that are immoral and against their principles as their last resort. Additionally, it is also needed to be imposed since these gambling websites and establishments should abide by the law. And if law prohibits giving access to minors, then they must adhere to it, otherwise their operation might be stopped by the authorities. Comparing the free world outside the jurisdiction of gambling sites and physical casinos are totally different. But it's still essential to educate the youths regardless so they won't fall victim into the harsh reality of gambling.
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July 11, 2023, 12:47:44 PM |
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Why there are even age restrictions in gambling? Because people dont realize consequences of addiction? Go out on a street and it wont take long until you find a kid <18 yo or even 13-15 yo smoking cigarettes or electronic cigarettes. Kids at 15 or 16 are allowed to get married (lol, marriage can cause even more problems (mental) to kids at that age than gambling). It is even more responsibility. Yet some states allow to gamble from 21. Funny. This is like a joke, when father come to his son and say that they gonna have a serious conversation about sex, and a kid reply "ok, what you want to find out?" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Restrictions in gambling are made and implemented to protect the youth from the consequences of gambling at a young age. Since these people do not have the full capacity to decide yet, meaning they are still vulnerable and naive. They might not fully know or understand the repercussions of gambling especially if ever they would experience a loss. It might take a toll on their mental health that could lead them to do things that are immoral and against their principles as their last resort. Additionally, it is also needed to be imposed since these gambling websites and establishments should abide by the law. And if law prohibits giving access to minors, then they must adhere to it, otherwise their operation might be stopped by the authorities. Comparing the free world outside the jurisdiction of gambling sites and physical casinos are totally different. But it's still essential to educate the youths regardless so they won't fall victim into the harsh reality of gambling. Do you really think that when a person hits 18, next minute, all of a sudden he sees the light, the meaning of life and becomes aware of everything? The example I've given - consequences of marriage at 16 yo can be far worse than consequences of gambling. A person might get married, get a child, then divorce and probably spoil his future entire life or next 18 years. But at 18 at the casino what can worse thing that might happen to you? Lose all lunch money or weekly-monthly salary?
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling. Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble? Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them? Casino follow this since if not they are the one who will get sued by the government and receive penalties for not restricting minors not to play on their platform. This is the reason why they implement a KYC feature to filter out there users and disallow minors to play their casino. But its undeniable that there are some minors fake out their details that's why see a few of them still gamble even if there's restriction impose by law and by the rules of the casino. Well, I have always thought that casinos, besides the age for you to drink alcohol, is 18 years or older, why? because they are considered adults and adults can be assigned the necessary responsibility so that they know that if they do something bad they will pay hard with jail, in casinos the age of 18 seems good to me, because there is already an apparent responsibility, and that it has a lot to do with the number of things they can do, that is, a child is considered to be 17 years of age and under and the law protects them, instead, 18 years of age is absolute responsibility, and since then they should be allowed to do it . Take as much as possible. For me the normal age for a casino is 18 years, from there it can be considered that the degree to mature is somewhat ambiguous, there are many who are 40 years old and do not mature, but in a casino how they have to handle money, there yes . Now I have a question, I know that in the Netherlands things work differently, and in some European countries, some very young people aged 12 and over are allowed to do adult activities, have and can drink alcohol, which I am not ok, there is also the option that they can enter sites that are only for adults, they can have access, so I know from the movies that focus on showing that, although I'm not sure, because when I was a child I wanted to have all those freedoms .
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