Whats happening with Betnomi?

[efialtis]

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They have had issues with player withdrawals and payments since forever...

I actually believed, and to this day still do, that the delays always came when the market was the "most unstable", and that they purposelly held onto the funds to "pay less BTC for the same $". So if it was something premeditated, not really "an issue"

That wouldn`t really make it any better and less shady...

Well, as someone stated before - I think we are starting to repeat the same things again and again - Betnomi was a shit show (I literally named them so multiple times) and an obvious one - their exit scam was just a matter of time and funnily, even in our GOSU TG, I stated exactly that a long time ago... 

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[piebeyb]

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They have had issues with player withdrawals and payments since forever...

I actually believed, and to this day still do, that the delays always came when the market was the "most unstable", and that they purposelly held onto the funds to "pay less BTC for the same $". So if it was something premeditated, not really "an issue"

I don't think we will ever know the real problem with their site and business, because whatever is slow causes withdrawals to be delayed, it is clearly very vulnerable to trust, slow withdrawals are sometimes annoying, that's why I never gamble on them. casinos that process withdrawals manually unless they process withdrawals automatically.

Even now I can't speculate about them whether it's about delayed or slow withdrawals but what we have to realize now is that they have left their business and are probably building other new casinos that we don't know about, but I still believe that they have used to being active on this forum so know how to gain reputation and trust from the community, so I'm still careful with new casinos lately and holding signature campaigns too, it seems like people are used to it before 

[swogerino]

The fact that they are not back yet means only one thing and that is to stick to casinos here with years of experience and only positive feedback,of course such casinos if they make an exit scam they lose much more than continuing operating as they have a huge user base that makes them profit over the long run.We should stick to them.

Betnomi most probably did not have a huge user base and the base of players that they had,well most of them should have not been high rollers so they decided to move away with all people balances and call it a day.Another one hit the dust as they say.

[Hispo]

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Betnomi most probably did not have a huge user base and the base of players that they had,well most of them should have not been high rollers so they decided to move away with all people balances and call it a day.Another one hit the dust as they say.

Not an excuse to exit scam and steal money, though.
There are casinos which are far less popular than Betnomi was and with both a lesser volume and number of users, still they decide not to scam anyone and try to continue to grow each day and in an honorable way. That is how most casinos has ever started.

When they started to gain some traction they all could exit scam but did not, and the results of many of those casinos is the absolute positive state and the millions they produce with their operations. Betnomi simply gave up and decided it was time to die for them.

Still hoping of someday we will ever see some accountability against those crooks...

[Betwrong]

$20k? I thought there were millions of USD on the site. I'm not a whale or something, but I had around $400 on the site. My balance was $150 and I would never deposit more but my friend offered to sponsor my poker game and I deposited $250 more just couple of days before the site disappeared. Was I among those few unlucky ones who had much more than $100 on their balance? Too bad.

It's possibly around the 20K range for the exit scam, but it could have been a little more if they were selectively scamming all along. If the amount was in millions of USD, we would have seen a lot of noise on sites like reddit, trustpilot, casinoguru, askgamblers and this forum.

For a website that was already struggling, I would say it's just the unlucky few that got struck by the exit scam.

That's what I was thinking too. I was sure they had millions of USD of users' money on the site, and since there had been no news about their "exit scam" or whatever, no news even today:



I thought we just had to wait till the issue was resolved. Apparently I was wrong.

Btw, I just checked, and they have reappeared on LinkedIn.:



But what could it mean? I have no idea.

[Mahdirakib]

Btw, I just checked, and they have reappeared on LinkedIn.: ~snip~
But what could it mean? I have no idea.

AFAIK, Sorsis has never disappeared from LinkedIn. When were you unable to find his LinkedIn profile? What I have seen is, his LinkedIn 'followers' and 'connections' have increased since the downtime of Betnomi website. However, their official LinkedIn profile has been deleted at the end of July month.

It's over, they finally deleted their public Linkedin page.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/betnomi
Everything was working few days ago: ~

[Betwrong]

Btw, I just checked, and they have reappeared on LinkedIn.: ~snip~
But what could it mean? I have no idea.

AFAIK, Sorsis has never disappeared from LinkedIn. When were you unable to find his LinkedIn profile? What I have seen is, his LinkedIn 'followers' and 'connections' have increased since the downtime of Betnomi website. However, their official LinkedIn profile has been deleted at the end of July month.

It's over, they finally deleted their public Linkedin page.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/betnomi
Everything was working few days ago: ~

Sorsis disappeared from LinkedIn about the same time. Or, at least it was like that to me. I had been checking all Betnomi related info once a week, and it was a good news for me that Sorsis reappeared on LinkedIn. Also, seeing this today



instead of this scary message



that we had been seeing for quite a while, is a relief for me.

[Hispo]

Btw, I just checked, and they have reappeared on LinkedIn.: ~snip~
But what could it mean? I have no idea.

AFAIK, Sorsis has never disappeared from LinkedIn. When were you unable to find his LinkedIn profile? What I have seen is, his LinkedIn 'followers' and 'connections' have increased since the downtime of Betnomi website. However, their official LinkedIn profile has been deleted at the end of July month.

It's over, they finally deleted their public Linkedin page.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/betnomi
Everything was working few days ago: ~

Sorsis disappeared from LinkedIn about the same time. Or, at least it was like that to me. I had been checking all Betnomi related info once a week, and it was a good news for me that Sorsis reappeared on LinkedIn. Also, seeing this today



instead of this scary message



that we had been seeing for quite a while, is a relief for me.

I would not like to say it is a good signal and there is a chance for people to recover their balance, because I am not even close to be sure what in God's name is going on, specially on the LinkedIn going off and on.

A scammer would just delete everything they can while exiting the scam and never turn around. Perhaps some change of heart because of the fear of the possible legal consequences all this mess could have on those whose personal info is available on internet?

[Mahdirakib]

Sorsis disappeared from LinkedIn about the same time. Or, at least it was like that to me.

I have been checking the Betnomi website and Sorsis Linkedin profile occasionally as well, his LinkedIn profile was always available whenever I checked it.

that we had been seeing for quite a while, is a relief for me.

FYI, the maintenance message was brought back on the 25th September, and I had noticed it after making my last post here. This isn't the first time when they removed the system error and brought back the maintenance message. There is nothing positive until Sorsis give any official announcement.

Perhaps some change of heart because of the fear of the possible legal consequences all this mess could have on those whose personal info is available on internet?

They are doing those things to give a relief (positive hopes) to the victims so that the victim doesn't take any legal actions. Seems like it is working for them.

[Hispo]

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Perhaps some change of heart because of the fear of the possible legal consequences all this mess could have on those whose personal info is available on internet?

They are doing those things to give a relief (positive hopes) to the victims so that the victim doesn't take any legal actions. Seems like it is working for them.

Unfortunately, it would seem that even without them doing those things as distraction, the people who got defrauded seem to be already very discouraged to seek for legal advise a d prosecution, at this point.

Leads me to believe neither of them have lost an amount of money worth to hassle of going after these scammers, which is pretty sad and disgusting, to be honest. If these people can create a casino, take the money and run away, without any serious repercussions to them; we are going to see more scammers getting encouraged to do exactly what they have done.

Also, if there are LinkedIn pages, that could mean there is enough information about them and their former employees for someone to track them.

[GxSTxV]

I think that nobody here knows what's really going to happen next with Betnomi after their unexpected exit. Their website went into maintenance in the first days of their disappearance without any further notice on their social media or from their representatives in BTT.
A few days after showing the maintenance message in their website we saw another error and possibly because of deletion of all data inside their server. Surprisingly now as users have been reporting that the past week the maintenance message is back. So perhaps it's a sign that the team has decided to return? Or were they under pressure or afraid of being arrested? Regardless of the reasons for this message return it also indicates that the team is still making changes in the servers and casino data still with them.
Maybe is there still a possibility for users to recover their money stuck inside?

[LTU_btc]

Sorsis disappeared from LinkedIn about the same time. Or, at least it was like that to me. I had been checking all Betnomi related info once a week, and it was a good news for me that Sorsis reappeared on LinkedIn. Also, seeing this today




instead of this scary message



that we had been seeing for quite a while, is a relief for me.

I don't think that these things means something. After so much time already passed, I wouldn't keep my expectations high that Betnomi will return. These things that you posted only gives false hope.
Personally, I already accepted fact that they made exit scam and I don't expect any positive outcome of this story.

[notblox1]

Sorsis disappeared from LinkedIn about the same time. Or, at least it was like that to me. I had been checking all Betnomi related info once a week, and it was a good news for me that Sorsis reappeared on LinkedIn. Also, seeing this today

This must be one of the longest scheduled maintenance I ever seen in my life 
And I dont understand what kind of games are they playing with this message, one week they have this, next week error page, and all over again in circles.
Betnomi is dead, so I am suggesting everyone to stop posting here and moderators to finally lock this topic to avoid more spam.

[yahoo62278]

Let's be serious for a sec here. Let's say Betnomi comes back online, do you really think they will magically start processing wd and make everything right? Look at how well they have communicated with everyone to this point. The owner has logged in a few times as well and i'm sure is well aware of this thread and comments made in their announcement thread.

Don't get your hopes up people.

[Latviand]

I actually believed, and to this day still do, that the delays always came when the market was the "most unstable", and that they purposelly held onto the funds to "pay less BTC for the same $". So if it was something premeditated, not really "an issue"

Nah, that's still a bullshit thing to do because there are other casinos that are paying their players fairly rain or shine, it's not an excuse even if it's a plausible reason to keep your business afloat. If the market is unstable, that would also mean that they're going to be paid in fluctuating prices so that excuse isn't really a good hill to die on.

[CryptoGods90]

Its funny they did this, i was a streamer for them in theyre early days won 80k and has to beg for 40k to call it even and sorsis paid it out but i took a 40k loss to not eat the whole thing

[swogerino]

Let's be serious for a sec here. Let's say Betnomi comes back online, do you really think they will magically start processing wd and make everything right? Look at how well they have communicated with everyone to this point. The owner has logged in a few times as well and i'm sure is well aware of this thread and comments made in their announcement thread.

Don't get your hopes up people.

I agree with you.If they were to come back and to make things right for everyone I don't think they would wait this long,a really long period has passed which means they intentionally have waited this long for people sadness and anger to have cooled down somewhat,of course if they are ever coming back online,logging a few times does not mean anything except they are just having a look at the situation here.

For me this is another one who has hit the dust and I have strong doubts that the dust will get away and they will come back.

[Alphie12]

This is bad for the industry.

[Zoomic]

Sorsis disappeared from LinkedIn about the same time. Or, at least it was like that to me. I had been checking all Betnomi related info once a week, and it was a good news for me that Sorsis reappeared on LinkedIn. Also, seeing this today




instead of this scary message



that we had been seeing for quite a while, is a relief for me.

You have to first ask yourself that with the level of damage that Betnomi has done, if they return to the forum and pay people that lost in their casino due to their disappearance. They eventually starts operations again, will you be very confident playing with Betnomi again? I think my guess is your answer.
Betnomi cannot return if they have not find a way to earn more or steal more. Having known that their reputation is already ruined, they might not return again even if they had the intention to return.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Let's be serious for a sec here. Let's say Betnomi comes back online, do you really think they will magically start processing wd and make everything right? Look at how well they have communicated with everyone to this point. The owner has logged in a few times as well and i'm sure is well aware of this thread and comments made in their announcement thread.

Don't get your hopes up people.

I agree with you.If they were to come back and to make things right for everyone I don't think they would wait this long,a really long period has passed which means they intentionally have waited this long for people sadness and anger to have cooled down somewhat,of course if they are ever coming back online,logging a few times does not mean anything except they are just having a look at the situation here.

For me this is another one who has hit the dust and I have strong doubts that the dust will get away and they will come back.

As long as the site have remained down for this long to this very moment, i personally have my strong doubt that the site is never coming back, like you said, they have hit the rocks, what i feel they are waiting for right now is for people to stop talking and all move on, once every of us stop talking and move on now, they will quietly close the site completely without making any noise.

They probably do not want their downfall to be publicized all over social media and news outlet, so this is a strategy they employed to help make sure they quietly exit the gambling industry without raising much dust.

Anyways, this is just what I think, I could be wrong, they might have a different motive of plans altogether, but for now, we just keep watching to see where this all leads to.