The curious case of forum member: rby (of the Rubycoin scam)

[PytagoraZ]

As you can see, for my own curiosity, I have already dm'd him and will wait for his reply.

I appreciate the effort you put in, I really support you getting the facts on this matter. So this case could have key witnesses if there were people directly related to this case

That should have been started off with RBY's first attempt when he came back to the forum after more than half a decade. Now that he tried to come for the first time in the reputation board to defend a known cheater, he got himself in this mess. I personally have no affiliation, nor do I have any reason to call him out. His way of defending naim027 and john abraham, the way he deleted all technical replies, threads made before 2015 got him in this situation. He has been exposed as a liar if not that then he is a scammer.

I think that applies to anyone on this forum who doesn't support the case DT is working on. Especially Jollygood. You can see it in my tags, assuming he can tag...

Maybe i will challenge him, if he can prove me wrong then please mark. If not, then 10 negative tags for it. You must know that the mistakes of law enforcers must be punished more severely than ordinary people, right? DT is the enforcer of this forum

There are couple things why it looks suspicious:
1. If Rubycoin is legit, why he need to delete the ANN thread?
2. If he's the real team behind of Rubycoin, why he not act to resolve the 2 BTC problem? what I see here he's more focus to get rid off from the negative feedback by complaint why the accusation bumped after 4 years.

So only "if"?

Have you come across judgments with proof "if"? I've never seen one, at least in countries that use positive law

I am surprised you contacted him, that is definitely being dedicated to the cause. If he does get back to you I hope it does not bring back bad memories of the scam.

As far as the current owner/operator of the rby account is concerned they can continue lying and that was to be expected since naim027-style set the bar of compulsive lying and manipulation to never-before seen levels, others had to catch on.

Yes, what he did was absolutely right. That's the right way of judging, looking for real evidence, not prejudice.

If you definitely won't do it, Because it's not necessary. Assumptions alone are enough for you to judge people. I don't know where you studied law, but it looks cool and you're probably the only one doing a model of judgment like that in the whole world. Or do you have your own legal theory? maybe negative law theory?

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I don't want to say anything about any particular case or this thread. I don't want to mention any name too. But, one of this forum police blindly said I participated in a Pizza baking contest and other contests to farm merits. While I did not participate in any contest organized in this forum so far. Now I am afraid if I participate in any contest, they will say I am a shit poster and trying to farm merits from the contest. They also said I post shit in the WO thread to farm merits while I got around 7-9 Merits from the WO thread from the general discussion in my forum lifetime.

I read carefully, and this thread is not based on any accusation that has been made against you so why come up with it here? I think if there's any accusation made against you that you wish to start a discussion about, to show any proof or change those misconceptions in members that you think are beginning to doubt your reputation, then you can Open a thread for yourself to discuss that.

Don't write just for your signature campaign requirement. You should read before posting, you should think before you write. Look at the bold part of my post. As I said, I don't want to mention any names and am not discussing this particular case. Since BitcoinGirl.Club wrote something, and I felt I had something to add; I wrote my experience. I should mention that the person I am talking about is not JollyGood. I did not mention any names here.

If everyone starts creating a thread because of an accusation that never continues, then the whole reputation board will be crazy. It does not worth creating a thread because the accuser got silent after my first reply, there is nothing left to do. Stop encouraging people to create new drama threads.

If you are not writing either to complete your own signature post, then I don't think you should be responding to my comment. There is no need to bold only those few words; I read correctly everything that you wrote there, and I can clearly say you are speaking more of yourself and how some members think you have some shady interests on the forum. That was the reason I suggested that you  have your own thread to discuss that. This thread is about Ryb and Rubycoin, not "Learn Bitcoin". Even before I quoted that first reply, had you checked my profile very correctly, you would have found out that I even had more than enough posts for my signature post count for that week.

If you were trying to catch merit, you are successful.

I didn't beg for merit, mate. I just said my opinion, and I believe that my opinion is shared by quite a few members here. By the way, you think if I had want some merit, I wouldn't have been applying to some merit source?  

As you have correctly stated, this thread should be used to discuss either the Rubycoin scam or the rby account (regardless of who the current owner/operator of the account is). It should not have to be said because it is the obvious course of action however I will say it, those who have issues unrelated to this thread should start their own threads to discuss matters they are concerned with or would like to discuss.

I agree with you, @JollyGood. It's better for a self-discussion thread (for any accused user who wishes to clear up the accusation he or she has received) than piping in their own situation in a thread that's not about them (perhaps the thread is specified as for just Rby and Rubycoin, like the OP said, and I reckon you too).



Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

[loginsam45]

@JollyGood You have taken a good initiative I think there are some other DT members including you for whom this forum no longer has trading accounts like it used to.  Such warnings will stop corruption from the forum.  I think you took strict action against those who bought and sold accounts in 2022, for which now the forum is much stronger.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

@JollyGood You have taken a good initiative I think there are some other DT members including you for whom this forum no longer has trading accounts like it used to.  Such warnings will stop corruption from the forum.  I think you took strict action against those who bought and sold accounts in 2022, for which now the forum is much stronger.

I was following PytagoraZ's thread. He was left a neutral tag with the following assumption.

This "PytagoraZ" account was created less than a month ago but seems to know a lot about the forum and members. I suspect a farm/alt-account trying to increase rank as fast as possible probably for signature campaign enrolment.

It was because PytagoraZ spoke against JollyGood. It will be interesting if you will be receiving a negative inspired neutral feedback too.

@DireWolfM14, replying your response of the following

Are you going to bump every old thread that's ever mentioned rby just so you can spam links to the THREE threads you've created about him?

God you're a pathetic attention-whore drama-queen.  Maybe you ought to get a dog, they like to give their humans tons of attention.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456026.msg62508632#msg62508632

I already explained it in details LOL

The best part of your career was hunting down 1xBit guys and since then I don't see you were able to make a positive impact to the forum. You ran out of ideas since the ICO started to die. From last a year or two, you don't find any good topic to speak, any decent conversation to continue. It's easily noticeable. You go to a very old thread and bump it with answering some very old comments, you make a comment asking others to bring you information so that next time you can make another comment to increase your post count for the signature campaign you are promoting. I have no problem with all these.

Why it's taking too long to ~JollyGood.

[PytagoraZ]

I didn't beg for merit, mate. I just said my opinion, and I believe that my opinion is shared by quite a few members here. By the way, you think if I had want some merit, I wouldn't have been applying to some merit source?  

Quite interesting. Do you guys have any plans to create your own thread for argumentative debate? I will prepare popcorn and watch it. Maybe I'll bet a little

I agree with you, @JollyGood. It's better for a self-discussion thread (for any accused user who wishes to clear up the accusation he or she has received) than piping in their own situation in a thread that's not about them (perhaps the thread is specified as for just Rby and Rubycoin, like the OP said, and I reckon you too).

JG is not the type of person to be invited to discuss. Even I doubt he has the capacity to discuss. Maybe he doesn't have a book to read. So what he recommends is nonsense

@DireWolfM14, replying your response of the following

Are you going to bump every old thread that's ever mentioned rby just so you can spam links to the THREE threads you've created about him?

God you're a pathetic attention-whore drama-queen.  Maybe you ought to get a dog, they like to give their humans tons of attention.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456026.msg62508632#msg62508632

I already explained it in details LOL

The best part of your career was hunting down 1xBit guys and since then I don't see you were able to make a positive impact to the forum. You ran out of ideas since the ICO started to die. From last a year or two, you don't find any good topic to speak, any decent conversation to continue. It's easily noticeable. You go to a very old thread and bump it with answering some very old comments, you make a comment asking others to bring you information so that next time you can make another comment to increase your post count for the signature campaign you are promoting. I have no problem with all these.

Why it's taking too long to ~JollyGood.

The only best solution if have a problem with him is like that. He's not the type of person to talk to
~JollyGood is solusion  
Then for the continuation of this thread? he left her. Nothing matters anymore, because its purpose is only to provide red tags. There are no more clarifications, assumptions are just floating in the clouds, there is no decision whatsoever.

[lovesmayfamilis]

The only best solution if have a problem with him is like that. He's not the type of person to talk to
~JollyGood is solusion  
Then for the continuation of this thread? he left her. Nothing matters anymore, because its purpose is only to provide red tags. There are no more clarifications, assumptions are just floating in the clouds, there is no decision whatsoever.

You, appearing regularly in topics about JollyGood, more and more show yourself as a kind of "offended snowflake", which was previously painted red by JollyGood. And it is precisely because of this that you are such an ardent opponent who is fighting to be kicked out of the DT.
I don't need to prove that you are the one who came here to change the world; each person will always act in their interests above all, and you have an interest in denying JollyGood.
We just need to take the time to remember who was dyed by JollyGood from the Indonesian section, and the more you are so loud, the easier it will be to find your former account.

And yes, you probably noticed today after the update how your chances of getting into DT disappear.

[JollyGood]

I agree with you, @JollyGood. It's better for a self-discussion thread (for any accused user who wishes to clear up the accusation he or she has received) than piping in their own situation in a thread that's not about them (perhaps the thread is specified as for just Rby and Rubycoin, like the OP said, and I reckon you too).

I think that is the expected norm with all forum members. If anybody wishes to discuss any situation or any topic they are free to create topics and threads to contain the conversation within it. If any member believes he has been treated unfairly by any fellow members he should probably send them a PM first to discuss the issue and failing that he should consider creating a thread to discuss it openly with members.

@JollyGood You have taken a good initiative I think there are some other DT members including you for whom this forum no longer has trading accounts like it used to.  Such warnings will stop corruption from the forum.  I think you took strict action against those who bought and sold accounts in 2022, for which now the forum is much stronger.

You have created a new account around 48 hours ago and made this your second post. Reading through your post history it seems clear this is not your first account here therefore your motives remain unknown (for now).

The only best solution if have a problem with him is like that. He's not the type of person to talk to
~JollyGood is solusion  
Then for the continuation of this thread? he left her. Nothing matters anymore, because its purpose is only to provide red tags. There are no more clarifications, assumptions are just floating in the clouds, there is no decision whatsoever.

You, appearing regularly in topics about JollyGood, more and more show yourself as a kind of "offended snowflake", which was previously painted red by JollyGood. And it is precisely because of this that you are such an ardent opponent who is fighting to be kicked out of the DT.
I don't need to prove that you are the one who came here to change the world; each person will always act in their interests above all, and you have an interest in denying JollyGood.
We just need to take the time to remember who was dyed by JollyGood from the Indonesian section, and the more you are so loud, the easier it will be to find your former account.

And yes, you probably noticed today after the update how your chances of getting into DT disappear.

It would be seriously insulting the intelligence of members if we were to believe the nonsense that PytagoraZ is not an alt-account. Whatever the motive was behind creating this PytagoraZ account, it has failed but other newbies accounts created days ago are already posting in boards that they should have literally no knowledge about therefore the drama will continue.

This member clearly has some ulterior motives against me, maybe I tagged one or of his previous accounts. Having said that, one of the reasons why these alt-account and farm operators feel some sense of empowerment is because they see occasional posts in almost every thread that appears questioning the tags I left. Some mentally imbalanced trolls just cannot stop themselves from posting asking members to distrust me and somehow that makes them feel important  

[PytagoraZ]

You, appearing regularly in topics about JollyGood, more and more show yourself as a kind of "offended snowflake", which was previously painted red by JollyGood. And it is precisely because of this that you are such an ardent opponent who is fighting to be kicked out of the DT.
I don't need to prove that you are the one who came here to change the world; each person will always act in their interests above all, and you have an interest in denying JollyGood.

We just need to take the time to remember who was dyed by JollyGood from the Indonesian section, and the more you are so loud, the easier it will be to find your former account.

And yes, you probably noticed today after the update how your chances of getting into DT disappear.

Maybe you should take a look at the first page of this thread, I've been following this thread from the beginning, so maybe I didn't suddenly appear in this thread

If you have some spare time, maybe you can do that. But I'm afraid you will be disappointed and find nothing

It would be seriously insulting the intelligence of members if we were to believe the nonsense that PytagoraZ is not an alt-account. Whatever the motive was behind creating this PytagoraZ account, it has failed but other newbies accounts created days ago are already posting in boards that they should have literally no knowledge about therefore the drama will continue.

This member clearly has some ulterior motives against me, maybe I tagged one or of his previous accounts. Having said that, one of the reasons why these alt-account and farm operators feel some sense of empowerment is because they see occasional posts in almost every thread that appears questioning the tags I left. Some mentally imbalanced trolls just cannot stop themselves from posting asking members to distrust me and somehow that makes them feel important

hi JG
I'm glad to see you back. Thanks also for your satirical phrasing, sounds pretty good. The next question is, is it logical if I have an account that has been red tagged from you, suddenly appears and opposes you? Maybe I'd be better off hiding if I had a past like that. Moreover, my merit is already half way to get to rank FM. I don't know why people think like that

Or maybe you have a plan to accuse me of being connected to that newbie account?

I honestly have nothing against you, I'm just asking about preliminary evidence and initial analysis for this judgment thread you created. But you don't respond and assume too far and have nothing to do with this judgment thread. I have no right to control people's opinions

But letting go, I just want you to end this judgment thread. what results were obtained and what decisions were obtained or will wait for concrete evidence about the rby case, because I haven't seen concrete evidence, it's still just an assumption
I'm also surprised that you red tagged rby with a reference to your old thread instead of this one. Even though you didn't tag him yourself before, I'm surprised that at first you didn't have strong beliefs so you didn't tag him at all

[nutildah]

1. There's plenty of evidence that suggests the rby account changed hands.
2. There's plenty of evidence that suggests the original account owner was a scammer.
3. Not everything is about you.
4. Regardless of whether or not you are an alt account, you're annoying AF. Give it a rest.

Seriously, this guy is like a nullius minus the intimate knowledge of bitcoin and cryptography.

[PytagoraZ]

1. There's plenty of evidence that suggests the rby account changed hands.
2. There's plenty of evidence that suggests the original account owner was a scammer.
3. Not everything is about you.
4. Regardless of whether or not you are an alt account, you're annoying AF. Give it a rest.

Seriously, this guy is like a nullius minus the intimate knowledge of bitcoin and cryptography.

Fine.. I respect all the decisions that exist. So please JG give a closing statement and lock the thread so that the decision is final and nothing can be contested. If rby does not agree with the results, you can create a new thread (such as an appeal or cassation in a legal case)

Or this thread can be reopened if there is other supporting evidence that has not been attached

[nutildah]

Fine.. I respect all the decisions that exist. So please JG give a closing statement and lock the thread so that the decision is final and nothing can be contested. If rby does not agree with the results, you can create a new thread (such as an appeal or cassation in a legal case)

Or this thread can be reopened if there is other supporting evidence that has not been attached

Amazing... a breathtaking level of hubris on display.

First of all, you don't "respect all the decisions that exist." If you did, you wouldn't immediately tell JG - who has been here nearly 6 years longer than you - what he should be doing. You've been here for a month now. How could you possibly have developed a grasp of what should be done in this situation? You clearly haven't. But the fact that you believe you have requires a staggering degree of overconfidence if we are to believe you are actually a newbie. You're quickly becoming your own rby situation.

[PytagoraZ]

Amazing... a breathtaking level of hubris on display.

First of all, you don't "respect all the decisions that exist." If you did, you wouldn't immediately tell JG - who has been here nearly 6 years longer than you - what he should be doing. You've been here for a month now. How could you possibly have developed a grasp of what should be done in this situation? You clearly haven't. But the fact that you believe you have requires a staggering degree of overconfidence if we are to believe you are actually a newbie. You're quickly becoming your own rby situation.

I don't know what to say to you. Why does everyone think registering here is like registering at school? Yes, if someone has just registered for school, maybe he doesn't know anything.

This is the common thread of judgment, of course related to the law. You can buy a law book on the side of the road for $3.

I don't see any progress in this thread regarding this case. And what's even funnier, the outcome of the case hasn't even been decided yet but has been given a red tag. Maybe you need to spend a little time learning about the law. Or if you've been here for a long time, does that mean you already understand the law?
So are we always going off topic?
Make a rule that other than DT may not comment here. I will definitely leave this thread for good

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You're quickly becoming your own rby situation.

Is this a threat and intimidation? that if anyone dared to criticize DT then they would use DT's power to tag?

[nutildah]

What goes on here has nothing to do with the law. Here's the main problem: you keep talking like you understand how anything about how this forum works, and you clearly don't. I guess that works in favor of the idea that you're a newbie. On the other hand, you might be playing dumb sometimes on purpose.

Regardless, I've wasted too much time on this subject already. A parting word of advice is to stop butting in on subjects which you know nothing about. Ignorance and ego are never a good combination. You're not helping your own reputation which you are so desperately trying to grow.

You'll probably ignore this advice but you can't say I never tried to help you.

[PytagoraZ]

What goes on here has nothing to do with the law. Here's the main problem: you keep talking like you understand how anything about how this forum works, and you clearly don't. I guess that works in favor of the idea that you're a newbie. On the other hand, you might be playing dumb sometimes on purpose.

Regardless, I've wasted too much time on this subject already. A parting word of advice is to stop butting in on subjects which you know nothing about. Ignorance and ego are never a good combination. You're not helping your own reputation which you are so desperately trying to grow.

You'll probably ignore this advice but you can't say I never tried to help you.

Sounds like a good suggestion and deserves consideration. But you also need to remember this, don't give threats or intimidation once again because of your strength as a DT.
So what did you do that wasn't based on a legal concept? or maybe with the law of the jungle?
Yes... maybe you've wasted time to discuss with me. Or sometimes people run away from the discussion when the argument isn't enough
But I like to discuss with you. thanks

[nutildah]

But you also need to remember this, don't give threats or intimidation once again because of your strength as a DT.

If you interpreted my comparison of you and rby as a threat, that's your personal choice.

You really are unbelievable, in more ways than one.

[PytagoraZ]

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We're going off topic too much, Let's see how JG finishes what he started

[JollyGood]

I'm also surprised that you red tagged rby with a reference to your old thread instead of this one.

You are not surprised, you are playing ignorant. This is a discussion thread regarding the rby account and the Rubycoin scam and it was created to keep any other thread I created on-topic.

Even though you didn't tag him yourself before, I'm surprised that at first you didn't have strong beliefs so you didn't tag him at all

Nonsense. I created a thread over 4 years ago about the Rubycoin scam but looks like I forgot to tag the rby account and that was already mentioned.

1. There's plenty of evidence that suggests the rby account changed hands.
2. There's plenty of evidence that suggests the original account owner was a scammer.
3. Not everything is about you.
4. Regardless of whether or not you are an alt account, you're annoying AF. Give it a rest.

PytagoraZ is showing signs of extreme narcissism as though the world revolves around him. He already knows all this but is pretending to be ignorant.

Fine.. I respect all the decisions that exist. So please JG give a closing statement and lock the thread so that the decision is final and nothing can be contested. If rby does not agree with the results, you can create a new thread (such as an appeal or cassation in a legal case)

Or this thread can be reopened if there is other supporting evidence that has not been attached

Amazing... a breathtaking level of hubris on display.

Over the years we all have seen strange conduct from members. PytagoraZ has not been the only one displaying an over inflated ego with extreme levels of self-importance but he certainly has ulterior motives.

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We're going off topic too much, Let's see how JG finishes what he started

No, we are not going off-topic. This thread was created to discuss anything at all related to the rby account or the Rubycoin scam. Also, there is nothing for me to finish because I did not start anything. The rby account started this with the Rubycoin scam before the account changed hands.

This thread will remain unlocked as it would discourage the current rby account owner/operator (and members such as yourself) to post nonsense elsewhere. This thread was not created to discuss whether or not such specific thing related to the rby account occurred as the OP states:

This thread has been created to allow all matters related to the rby account being discussed here because a different thread related to discussing generalised Tagging Accounts Sellers And Tagging Traded/Sold/Bought Accounts is being taken taken off-topic by issues related to the rby account.

Feel free to post here in the uncensored thread.