The curious case of forum member: rby (of the Rubycoin scam)

[Learn Bitcoin]

I don't want to say anything about any particular case or this thread. I don't want to mention any name too. But, one of this forum police blindly said I participated in a Pizza baking contest and other contests to farm merits. While I did not participate in any contest organized in this forum so far. Now I am afraid if I participate in any contest, they will say I am a shit poster and trying to farm merits from the contest. They also said I post shit in the WO thread to farm merits while I got around 7-9 Merits from the WO thread from the general discussion in my forum lifetime.

I read carefully, and this thread is not based on any accusation that has been made against you so why come up with it here? I think if there's any accusation made against you that you wish to start a discussion about, to show any proof or change those misconceptions in members that you think are beginning to doubt your reputation, then you can Open a thread for yourself to discuss that.

Don't write just for your signature campaign requirement. You should read before posting, you should think before you write. Look at the bold part of my post. As I said, I don't want to mention any names and am not discussing this particular case. Since BitcoinGirl.Club wrote something, and I felt I had something to add; I wrote my experience. I should mention that the person I am talking about is not JollyGood. I did not mention any names here.

If everyone starts creating a thread because of an accusation that never continues, then the whole reputation board will be crazy. It does not worth creating a thread because the accuser got silent after my first reply, there is nothing left to do. Stop encouraging people to create new drama threads.

If you were trying to catch merit, you are successful.

[nutildah]

The current owner of the rby account just isn't the original owner, and its ridiculous they are pretending they are. It is also ridiculous that at the same time they think their old reputation (which was poor) shouldn't continue to follow them now.

Old owner: articulate developer, native English speaker
New owner: lazy shitposter, not a native English speaker


Old (deleted post):

Thanks to everyone who participated in the "proof of concept" phase of TraderDaddy. I'm convinced it's worthy of further development. A new version is being re-coded from scratch and is estimated for release in September. The goal of the rewrite is to make it easy to maintain long term. Future upgrades will be faster and with fewer bugs. TraderDaddy will be available for download again once this new version is ready. The increase in price for Rubycoin may result in TraderDaddy requiring a smaller amount for use.

New:

Bot is artificial intelligence that someone program with a certain algorithm. It is program to buy at a particular low and sell at a particular high. Don't forget that the market operates or works on demand and supply.
If the demand and supply change, the bot will do unexpected and may finish your fund.

Old (deleted post):

OSX users can give it a try using the link above. Windows and Linux version will be ready in a bit. You will need 25,000 Rubycoin in your Bittrex account for it to work.

Getting Started
Set Bittrex API Key and API Secret
Select Market Pairs
Configure "Risk Tolerance"
Configure "Budget"
Turn ON

This release is a proof of concept, it only works on Bittrex at the moment. If you exit the software (or it crashes) while the bot is running, make sure to turn it OFF then ON again. There are bugs, including one that can cause more than your budget to be placed on buy walls. These problems will be ironed out. Check out how it works, but it is not recommended for real use yet.

New:

Arsenal is now strong. I now have hope with arsenal since they can still be able to win match with 1 man red card. If it was before Wolves will have to win that match or equalize it at worse . Arsenal goal keeper this evening was so wonderful and he is one of the reason Arsenal won their matches this evening

I wouldn't have even noticed them if they had they not interjected themselves in the Naim007 discussion... it was a strange move as I'm almost certain they also have alt accounts enrolled in various campaigns... That seems to be a strategy for some "users": save up signature earning to buy new (old) accounts & get those in other campaigns.

Anybody of course is free to say anything they want at any time, in any section of the forum (so long as it doesn't break forum rules), but if you live in a glass house maybe consider not piping up when it comes to reputational matters.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

The current owner of the rby account just isn't the original owner, and its ridiculous they are pretending they are. It is also ridiculous that at the same time they think their old reputation (which was poor) shouldn't continue to follow them now.

Old owner: articulate developer, native English speaker
New owner: lazy shitposter, not a native English speaker


Old (deleted post):

Thanks to everyone who participated in the "proof of concept" phase of TraderDaddy. I'm convinced it's worthy of further development. A new version is being re-coded from scratch and is estimated for release in September. The goal of the rewrite is to make it easy to maintain long term. Future upgrades will be faster and with fewer bugs. TraderDaddy will be available for download again once this new version is ready. The increase in price for Rubycoin may result in TraderDaddy requiring a smaller amount for use.

New:

Bot is artificial intelligence that someone program with a certain algorithm. It is program to buy at a particular low and sell at a particular high. Don't forget that the market operates or works on demand and supply.
If the demand and supply change, the bot will do unexpected and may finish your fund.

Old (deleted post):

OSX users can give it a try using the link above. Windows and Linux version will be ready in a bit. You will need 25,000 Rubycoin in your Bittrex account for it to work.

Getting Started
Set Bittrex API Key and API Secret
Select Market Pairs
Configure "Risk Tolerance"
Configure "Budget"
Turn ON

This release is a proof of concept, it only works on Bittrex at the moment. If you exit the software (or it crashes) while the bot is running, make sure to turn it OFF then ON again. There are bugs, including one that can cause more than your budget to be placed on buy walls. These problems will be ironed out. Check out how it works, but it is not recommended for real use yet.

New:

Arsenal is now strong. I now have hope with arsenal since they can still be able to win match with 1 man red card. If it was before Wolves will have to win that match or equalize it at worse . Arsenal goal keeper this evening was so wonderful and he is one of the reason Arsenal won their matches this evening

I wouldn't have even noticed them if they had they not interjected themselves in the Naim007 discussion... it was a strange move as I'm almost certain they also have alt accounts enrolled in various campaigns... That seems to be a strategy for some "users": save up signature earning to buy new (old) accounts & get those in other campaigns.

Anybody of course is free to say anything they want at any time, in any section of the forum (so long as it doesn't break forum rules), but if you live in a glass house maybe consider not piping up when it comes to reputational matters.

I did some study of the post history yesterday and I get the same taste as you that the account might be changed hand but that it, it's just an idea. Even if it is a confirmed changed hand account still how many accounts were tagged this way lately especially when the account owner is trying to contribute positively to the forum.

It's a clear case that JollyGood and Poker Player did not like the idea that was shared in another thread, they did not like the argument, and they saw a good opportunity that the account can be destroyed with the issue of changed hand.

[JollyGood]

I don't want to say anything about any particular case or this thread. I don't want to mention any name too. But, one of these forum police blindly said I participated in a Pizza baking contest and other contests to farm merits. While I did not participate in any contest organized in this forum so far. Now I am afraid if I participate in any contest, they will say I am a shit poster and trying to farm merits from the contest. They also said I post shit in the WO thread to farm merits while I got around 7-9 Merits from the WO thread from the general discussion in my forum lifetime.

I read carefully, and this thread is not based on any accusation that has been made against you, so why come up with it here? I think if there's any accusation made against you that you wish to start a discussion about, to show any proof or change those misconceptions in members that you think are beginning to doubt your reputation, then you can Open a thread for yourself to discuss that.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

As you have correctly stated, this thread should be used to discuss either the Rubycoin scam or the rby account (regardless of who the current owner/operator of the account is). It should not have to be said because it is the obvious course of action however I will say it, those who have issues unrelated to this thread should start their own threads to discuss matters they are concerned with or would like to discuss.

9 years old drama, but if the current owner is the original Kassado/FuzzyHobbit then he/she should not be given any benefit of doubts for scamming CWC for 2 btc.

The whole of your post is very interesting, I will come back to the points to address later but I have to say I never knew about the 1 BTC bounty  

Im coming to this discussion concerning rby / rubycoin very late.

Rubycoin was one of the alt coins I started off with - back in the day Dev's of those alts were active in their threads and would answer numerous questions newbies had when setting up wallets and mining scrypt based coins.

I still have my ruby coin wallet - set up on an external hard drive. So, if need be, I can verify any signed messages from rubycoin wallet addresses.

(I'm away until Friday, so it won't happen until then)

If rby is indeed the "original" owner, then they wouldn't have any difficulties setting up a node.

Interesting. I was posting about this scam years ago and here you are saying you have a Rubycoin wallet. Even if the current operator manages to sign a known address from the original creator of the rby account what would it prove? It is highly unlikely he will manage to do it regardless.

[yahoo62278]

So I was asked my opinion on this case and I wasn't going to get involved, but I have been reading and I do have a question.

Rby was created way back 2014 only for the purpose of promoting the Rubycoin. The Ruby team was behind the promotion of Rubycoin even outside the forum. It was not a solo project, in the team had someone whose duty was to update the thread and others seriously working on the backend then. A unique password relating to the name of the project was used then to allow every member of the team access to any of our handles including BTT but it was the exclusive duty of one person to update information in the media. But incase of unavailability anyone can step in.

Down to 2021 (not 2022), After the covid-19. I remembered this forum and the rby account. The password wasn't changed and it was a unique password every member of the team could remember. I inputed the password and had access to the forum. I tried the password in our proton mail address and was denied access(which means someone changed it).

I had to reset the mail here in BTT but couldn't use the account because the project for which the account was created ended. I abandoned the account again till I discovered the gambling discussion board and started posting there. I later understood I can subscribe for signature campaign and earn why having fun. I tried to join signature campaign managed by yahoo62278 then. He didn't hire me for like 3 times. I decided to inbox him to enquire why I cannot be hired. Yahoo62278 told me that most of my posts were in altcoin board and I post burst, that if I continue so no manager will hire me. That was when I decided to delete majority of the posts in altcoin board and edit unnecessary ones to keep my timeline neat.

I don't really know much about the rubycoin team or if they scammed and whatnot, but you clearly state that the account you use now was a team account. Everyone had access and could post updates. You are a part of that everyone, but why not start on the forum fresh with no connection to the failed project and avoid any drama that may come at you from that project?

I won't say you are innocent here and I won't condemn you, but it is very curious as to why you chose to use this account vs creating a new name. You clearly earn a decent amount of merits and have been a fairly constructive member of the community. Why delete the post history or most of it? You left just shy of 25 posts from 2015 and deleted the rest. That doesn't look good.

In the last 1.5 years since waking this account up, you could have made Hero member and earned all the merits you have earned and avoided all this mess. So again I ask, why didn't you start brand new man?

[rby]

but why not start on the forum fresh with no connection to the failed project and avoid any drama that may come at you from that project?

Honestly, I didn't think it that way. I am such a person that doesn't easily discard old things, be it property or whatever. I would send them to charity instead.

You clearly earn a decent amount of merits and have been a fairly constructive member of the community. Why delete the post history or most of it? You left just shy of 25 posts from 2015 and deleted the rest. That doesn't look good.

I also did not have bad intentions towards this. I didn't think of deleting old posts. But when I tried to join your campaign and including the ones managed by you severally and I wasn't hired, I sent you PM, and your response made me delete the older posts in altcoin announcement. I know you will not remember but I had to do some search in my pm to see it.

My message was this;

Hello yahoo62278 (manager).

I have applied so many times in your campaign Gamdom and you didn't select me. I was pained though, but after I dropped a message in the thread and you replied, I was optimistic that I could join your next campaign. But I was shocked that I wasn't considered in Plataocryto campaign.
Please tell me what I'm doing wrongly so that I could change. Thanks.

You replied this;

You're profile tells me that you burstpost. Lots of fast back to back posts and its not good for a company to hire someone like that.

Slow down buddy. Stay away from shit boards such as altcoins stuff.

This gave me the idea that managers go through the post history of anyone before hire. So, I started to delete the old posts in altcoin announcement.
I am sorry, I have to make this pm public because there’s nothing confidential in it. Thanks!

[stompix]

Why delete the post history or most of it? You left just shy of 25 posts from 2015 and deleted the rest. That doesn't look good.

Because leaving a ton on would prove it's definitely not the same user and if he were to delete them he would lose activity, a quick glance and he will need to make up for about 5 months if he would trash those also.

The thing is pretty simple, it's obvious he is not the original user, if he keeps saying this he's a liar and it makes things worse, if he will simply say he got this account from an old relative that served in ww2 it might not be that big of a deal, he earned 355 merits according to BPIP so he would still be a full sr member on his own.
But again, bill gator account was red-tagged into -9 after confirming he bought his so, every DT with his own choice.

[JollyGood]

but why not start on the forum fresh with no connection to the failed project and avoid any drama that may come at you from that project?

Honestly, I didn't think it that way. I am such a person that doesn't easily discard old things, be it property or whatever. I would send them to charity instead.

This is quite a remarkable reason (excuse) for you to give. I have never read nostalgia given as an excuse for trying to hide account trading before.

Nostalgic value? That is a new excuse to add to the list of excuses given by account traders involving their brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties, mums and dads along with friends and neighbours as they deny account trading. Quite frequently various excuses are concocted but you have taken it to a new level by stating you woke the rby account up from hibernation because it has some sort of nostalgic value.

In a different thread:

Down to 2021 (not 2022), After the covid-19. I remembered this forum and the rby account. The password wasn't changed and it was a unique password every member of the team could remember. I inputed the password and had access to the forum. I tried the password in our proton mail address and was denied access(which means someone changed it).

I had to reset the mail here in BTT but couldn't use the account because the project for which the account was created ended. I abandoned the account again till I discovered the gambling discussion board and started posting there. I later understood I can subscribe for signature campaign and earn why having fun. I tried to join signature campaign managed by yahoo62278 then. He didn't hire me for like 3 times. I decided to inbox him to enquire why I cannot be hired. Yahoo62278 told me that most of my posts were in altcoin board and I post burst, that if I continue so no manager will hire me. That was when I decided to delete majority of the posts in altcoin board and edit unnecessary ones to keep my timeline neat.

Reading about how you opted to go through some miraculous manoeuvres to retrieve the rby account and add to that the previous charity comment and all because miraculously after Covid-19 you remembered you had a forum account. I noted you have added the caveat in advance of scrutiny (in the hope it not being used against you) that you logged in to forum to change the email address because the alleged group email password was not working but the alleged group forum password was working. That trick will not work.

What you have stated is that after Covid-19 you (for reasons not mentioned) remembered you had a forum account and you decided to use that same tainted rby account from the Rubycoin scam (that you claim had been used by multiple people) because it had nostalgic value. And throw in the comment you made that you would give things to charity rather than discard them easily be it property or whatever but you discarded huge swathes of posts quite easily.

I have to say, it is good to see new excuses being presented but not many will believe that nostalgic value was the real reason you woke the rby account up from hibernation.

[KingsDen]

I went through the profile of rby briefly. I had two things in mind which were;
1. To check if rby is shitposting
2. To check if rby is a scammer or sh/e is  planning to scam.

I noticed some untrusted feedbacks in his account way back (non from a DT member) and I am not sure any of those accusers are still in the forum. No one is claiming that rby stole from them.
In the issue of shit posting, I can confirm that rby isn't a shit poster. There is a thread sh/e is running in the service board where several reputable members dropped him merits in 20s and 10s.
Projects Visibility (Sig Campaigns) in Bitcointalk.
Rby account is just trying to be noticed and also trying to contribute to the forum since sh/e woke, according to Yahoo.
I sincerely do not think that the account should be destroyed. So, I align with what other DT members are saying.
The best to do is to watch the account incase he will want to run a service or come up with another coin project, then the account could be neutral tagged for warning purposes.

[Timelord2o67]

Im coming to this discussion I still have my ruby coin wallet - set up on an external hard drive. So, if need be, I can verify any signed messages from rubycoin wallet addresses.

(I'm away until Friday, so it won't happen until then)

If rby is indeed the "original" owner, then they wouldn't have any difficulties setting up a node.

Interesting. I was posting about this scam years ago and here you are saying you have a Rubycoin wallet. Even if the current operator manages to sign a known address from the original creator of the rby account what would it prove? It is highly unlikely he will manage to do it regardless.

I'm leaning towards they won't be able to sign a message much less create a node because they don't have the program because they aren't one of the Devs.

Call it a hunch...

[NotATether]

9 years old drama, but if the current owner is the original Kassado/FuzzyHobbit then he/she should not be given any benefit of doubts for scamming CWC for 2 btc.

My question is why on earth would someone buy and use an account that has a literal bounty against it ??!

[Plaguedeath]

My question is why on earth would someone buy and use an account that has a literal bounty against it ??!

How do you can think it's impossible?

Most people are greedy, they will buy an account with the criteria of not receive any negative feedback, neutral tag of being a shitposter or anything that could make the account not able to participate a signature campaign, and at least full member rank.

They don't care about the possibility of controlling a profile of bad person, possibility of plagiarism etc.

Similar like we're know a site offering 1% per day is scam, but there's always a person fall for it.

[Timelord2o67]

My question is why on earth would someone buy and use an account that has a literal bounty against it ??!

Similarly, why would anyone knowingly use an account if they had caused a series of events that resulted in a bounty being placed on them? 🤔

Either way, the account holder now is being evasive.

[invincible49]

This gave me the idea that managers go through the post history of anyone before hire. So, I started to delete the old posts in altcoin announcement.
I am sorry, I have to make this pm public because there’s nothing confidential in it. Thanks!

Honestly, Just piss off you compulsive liar. You bought the account, you have been using it for a couple of years now, mainly under the radar until you tried to stand beside (probably your alts!! HYPOTHECIALLY still to me) with this account and then got noticed. Don't expect you are going to be a lucky Sauron that will be able to fool the Numenoreans with your dodgy writings with every lies in here.

The rby team didn't steal 2 BTC from anyone.  That was a mere accusation by a competitor then. The accusation did not recieve any response from the community then, not even one person responded to the accusation.

I tried out the bot based on a friends recommendation, unknowingly as it was the first bot I had ever used and wanted to see what it was all about.  Then they forced me to buy and use Rubycoin to pump it.  A day later bittrex halted my trading and froze my account.  I asked these guys about it and they immediately banned my account from their slack channel for asking the "wrong" questions.  I posted something here and it was immediately deleted from their bitcointalk forum post.  So id like to post this to let everyone who is new to bots know how that went down.  Buyer beware.  Here is an old post I found below regarding how they are making money from your account.

http://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/5662800/traderdaddy-bot-scam

I looked more into a bot called Trader Daddy. You are required to trade at least .25 btc of the devs own coin on top of holding 500 rubycoin in reserve. His alias is fuzzyhobbit on his rubycoin.slack and he bans people for asking too many questions. I tracked the amount of BTC that was being traded and the bot does not reflect the actual amount in your bittrex account. It turns out that he is able to pump coins people are trading with his bot and he is able to pump and dump and make a spread on your trades.

Traderdaddy.com

How is this legal? Is he allowed to remain anounymous and shill this product? There is no contact information at all. He makes it look like you're safe by only giving the API code options of buy/sell only, but he just pumps and dumps for his own benefit. Fuck this guy fuzzyhobbit, stay away fro, Traderdaddy.

What's traderdaddy: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@nycrom/meet-traderdaddy-an-automated-cryptocurrency-trading-bot

wtf is this shit rubycoin, overtakes monero, it has a dead ann thread, no community, no activity, no marketing, nobdy heard of it. this fcking altcoin valuing logic is so retarded.
It should be removed from coinmarketcap just like banxshares.

Update: Kassado is alive!!

After 2 months of silence, and about 20 minutes after this thread went up, Kassado sends me a PM on IRC. Here is what he had to say:

https://i.imgur.com/wMLANnj.png

Here is the URL: https://i.imgur.com/8RVxBJO.png

Stay classy Kassado, stay classy.

Not even you (actually not you but the original Kassado/FuzzyHobbit!) responded to those countless accusations. Not even in one of those accusation threads! Go do something about that first. Oh wait, the more you dig deeper on technological aspects the more you will be exposed as an imposter of a scammer against whom there are about hundreds of posts. I wonder if the forum even has ever seen someone with this much haters/angry victims throughout its history! You know why? Because this RBY account owner was among most of the community derived projects back in 2014-2015. It doesn't matter whether he was a scammer or not. He was simply in everything. From close to Bittrex developers to Bot developing to various Layer 1 projects with PoW and PoS.

2.  My website, FreeBitcoins.com, is using the source code from https://github.com/FuzzyHobbit/bustabit-gameserver/blob/master/license.txt under the license http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.html.  

Mac wallet (courtesy of FuzzyHobbit)

So stop pretending or else do the following and save us all our times.

I still have my ruby coin wallet - set up on an external hard drive. So, if need be, I can verify any signed messages from rubycoin wallet addresses.

(I'm away until Friday, so it won't happen until then)

If rby is indeed the "original" owner, then they wouldn't have any difficulties setting up a node.

My question is why on earth would someone buy and use an account that has a literal bounty against it ??!

Not that uncommon. Those account buyers often spend $300 to $600 on good accounts and they buy in bulk, they have only one job which is to write for signature campaigns all day long! So they hardly give a f about the accounts they buy as long it doesn't come with a red. I once caught an account which was the original account of Faircoin founder Enric Duran. The guy has his own wikipedia ffs! And, the buyer never even noticed that is still my best guess.

What is bugging me the most is why a couple of users with similar writing patterns, same type of early days in the forum as of Naim027- who are also active in local Bangladeshi board are coming to support accounts such as this in this thread and in another thread? Maybe nothing!

[rby]

I'm leaning towards they won't be able to sign a message much less create a node because they don't have the program because they aren't one of the Devs.

Call it a hunch...

I have been involved in many judication, but the type of judgement I see in BTT is not practised anywhere in the world. Almost everyone who ask questions does so for jamboree. They have already preconceived judgement, no matter what you say, minds are already made up. It is only in a few cases that people will reevaluate their decisions and reconsider their judgement.

See this;

Later on trader daddy bot was introduced immediately the project was changed from PoW to PoS. This was an attempt to keep the project going, but I wasn't working as planned.
I think there was some kind of disagreement in the team. It wasn't obvious, but it was a consensus to continue the project or to rename it, and restart with a new concept. There was no clear agreement and the community was loosing interest in the project because many projects saw their end then.
The team separated and everyone went their way. One of the guys in the backend asked to be allowed to continue the project and it was granted him. That is all I can remember about the project.

It is correct that people always come up with XY stories, and because we have heard enough of these stories, it is therefore correct to say that all the stories are false. This is not a good logic and that is the reason theymos emphasises on case by case handling of matters.

I know my major crime; which is contributing in matters I am not supposed to contribute, joining conversations I am not invited, giving my one cent when I'm not supposed to.

I have seen some DT members leaving me feedbacks.
Some negative and later turned to neutral,
Some neutral,
Some are indifferent.
This shows some level of inconsistencies, but the goal is to sentence rby.
I also seize this medium to thank those who have being with me since this matter started.
Everyday we create threads on reputation seeking for consensus of DTs but when other DT members make suggestions, it will fall on deaf ears.
Who knows if the rby matter will be the last view of the Saints. A community of humanity and leniency could  be ushered any moment.

I can simply go to the profile of some persons and tag them for scam. No one will notice it because I'm not in DT, ofcourse 10yrs later when I will no longer be here, some new people then will use my untrusted red tag and condemn the person. But that I will not do.
That being said, I am saying goodbye to all in this matter. I will not fail to appreciate Poker player for changing his mind at the climax of this matter. It is not all humans can do that. But then I no longer trust your judgement.
JG, I'll leave you to your fate to do what pleases you. I read where you claimed that you changed some negative tags when the community was against it. It is possible you can remove your tag on  my profile.
Invincible49 whose target has always been to paint my account

Damn man, get off this account and move to next one because that is what you will do next when this one gets painted in red.

I don't have much to say but the community is watching who they will allow to enter or remain in the DT. You can still reconsider your stance but do not expect me in your DM for begging.
The trust system is decentralized, everyone has the ability to write whatever in another's profile. The difference is that your visible writing today might be invisible tomorrow.

Thanks all
rby.

[JollyGood]

In the issue of shit posting, I can confirm that rby isn't a shit poster.

How convenient of a story: "One member of the 'team' was a scammer, but not me, I'm the non-scamming part of the team." If you believe this, you're a fool.

The current rby account owner/operator was never going to admit to purchasing the account from fear of being tagged and he could not admit to being the creator of the rby account and Rubycoin scam because that was a developer/coder, therefore he concocted an elaborate story which basically should be sold as a script to a film studio.

Interesting. I was posting about this scam years ago and here you are saying you have a Rubycoin wallet. Even if the current operator manages to sign a known address from the original creator of the rby account what would it prove? It is highly unlikely he will manage to do it regardless.

I'm leaning towards they won't be able to sign a message much less create a node because they don't have the program because they aren't one of the Devs.

Call it a hunch...

Call it a factual hunch, if there is such a thing. He will be unable to make any technical statement let alone practically do it and even then it would not prove much in the context of his negative feedback.

9 years old drama, but if the current owner is the original Kassado/FuzzyHobbit then he/she should not be given any benefit of doubts for scamming CWC for 2 btc.

My question is why on earth would someone buy and use an account that has a literal bounty against it ??!

He purchased the account for signature campaigns and along the way made himself helpful here and there (with some members and in some threads) in the hope of creating misdirection if the past ever caught up with him.

He purchased the account because he did not know much about it. He probably did very little research about the Rubycoin scam but the irony is that had I remembered to tag the account back in 2019 it would probably not be put on the market for sale.

[PytagoraZ]

Everything is still assuming. Has anyone here contacted cleanwatercoin? I looked at the cleanwatercoin thread and not a single reply, doesn't anyone care about scams? well, cleanwatercoin is also unclear, maybe it's also a scam.

I think what is being done here is just assuming and fetching the source from a dead source without knowing if the old thread is valid or not. If this scam really happened, in 2014 no one cares about this problem so no one tags or replies in the comments column of the thread?

Maybe I can lie and accuse someone of cheating now, I'm off the forum, and in the future someone will see the thread I created. They believed the accusations and raised the issue again. Anyone know the original case? in 2014? or did people here just look at an old thread and bring up this issue again?

I don't support rby, but I only see assumptions, no clarification from anyone, does anyone dare to testify that the fraud case really happened? and there is no element of business competition? rubicoin and cleanwatercoin are both gone now, the coins are dead, and both are scams

I think only nutildan and stompix were born on this forum when this thread was created
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638171.msg7121360#msg7121360
is  at that time the members were still small so no one cared about the 2btc fraud case and replied to the thread?

Maybe nutildah and stompix can explain why that thread is being ignored and no one is replying to comments, not even nutildan and stompix are replying to that thread

[invincible49]

cleanwatercoin is also unclear, maybe it's also a scam.

Maybe you should contact cointelegraph's editors for your due diligence! They might have information about Zach and can give you his contact to get to the bottom of it since you have been very supportive of RBY guy. Hundreds of negative views on this guy throughout the internet, but yeah those are all based on assumption to you! 

Interview with CWC's Zach: https://cointelegraph.com/news/clean_water_coin_rethinking_charity



As you can see, for my own curiosity, I have already dm'd him and will wait for his reply.

I think what is being done here is just assuming and fetching the source from a dead source without knowing if the old thread is valid or not. If this scam really happened, in 2014 no one cares about this problem so no one tags or replies in the comments column of the thread?

That should have been started off with RBY's first attempt when he came back to the forum after more than half a decade. Now that he tried to come for the first time in the reputation board to defend a known cheater, he got himself in this mess. I personally have no affiliation, nor do I have any reason to call him out. His way of defending naim027 and john abraham, the way he deleted all technical replies, threads made before 2015 got him in this situation. He has been exposed as a liar if not that then he is a scammer.

[Plaguedeath]

Maybe I can lie and accuse someone of cheating now, I'm off the forum, and in the future someone will see the thread I created. They believed the accusations and raised the issue again. Anyone know the original case? in 2014? or did people here just look at an old thread and bring up this issue again?

Maybe nutildah and stompix can explain why that thread is being ignored and no one is replying to comments, not even nutildan and stompix are replying to that thread

You can try if you want, just create a new thread in scam accusation or reputation thread.

There are couple things why it looks suspicious:
1. If Rubycoin is legit, why he need to delete the ANN thread?
2. If he's the real team behind of Rubycoin, why he not act to resolve the 2 BTC problem? what I see here he's more focus to get rid off from the negative feedback by complaint why the accusation bumped after 4 years.

Well either nutildah, stompix or any user was registered since 2014, they don't have any obligation to research and respond to every thread in this forum. It's up to every user choice including the current user who's want to research and respond old case.

[JollyGood]

As you can see, for my own curiosity, I have already dm'd him and will wait for his reply.

I am surprised you contacted him, that is definitely being dedicated to the cause. If he does get back to you I hope it does not bring back bad memories of the scam.

As far as the current owner/operator of the rby account is concerned they can continue lying and that was to be expected since naim027-style set the bar of compulsive lying and manipulation to never-before seen levels, others had to catch on.