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It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

Right, we agree on this. It is very important to avoid any form of addiction at all costs. But in reality, this will involve all aspects of our lives. There are many addictions and causes, and not just gambling or things related to narcotics. In most cases it all starts from habit, and the habits we do become excessive and ultimately get out of control. as you said, when we realize that we fall into the addiction category, recovering requires effort accompanied by strong intention and determination. that is, if we are able to go through every temptation we face in recovery.

The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case money, property, even work, and this applies to all addictions. The point is it's not the casino that's the problem, in this case it's gambling. but in ourselves, in most cases we don't have understanding and control over ourselves. in the end, we ourselves suffer. IMO, there is no best method other than ourselves. In essence, we are given intelligence to think and the problem is how we are able to control it. what I say, will not completely stop the addiction. However, it can reduce excessive habits. In fact, we can change our mindset. but all of that, comes back to the gamblers themselves.

Recognizing addiction is an important step, and recovery requires a combination of effort, determination, and often external support. As you pointed out, addiction can lead to the loss of many aspects of one's life, including financial stability, relationships, and even employment. This can serve as a wake-up call for some individuals to seek help and make positive changes.

While there may not be a one-size-fits-all method to overcome addiction, the combination of self-awareness, willpower, and a support system can greatly improve one's chances of reducing or eliminating addictive behaviors. It's an ongoing journey, and every small step toward positive change is a significant achievement in itself.

or simply put, don't waste your hard-earned life on irresponsible gambling.

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It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

Right, we agree on this. It is very important to avoid any form of addiction at all costs. But in reality, this will involve all aspects of our lives. There are many addictions and causes, and not just gambling or things related to narcotics. In most cases it all starts from habit, and the habits we do become excessive and ultimately get out of control. as you said, when we realize that we fall into the addiction category, recovering requires effort accompanied by strong intention and determination. that is, if we are able to go through every temptation we face in recovery.

The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case money, property, even work, and this applies to all addictions. The point is it's not the casino that's the problem, in this case it's gambling. but in ourselves, in most cases we don't have understanding and control over ourselves. in the end, we ourselves suffer. IMO, there is no best method other than ourselves. In essence, we are given intelligence to think and the problem is how we are able to control it. what I say, will not completely stop the addiction. However, it can reduce excessive habits. In fact, we can change our mindset. but all of that, comes back to the gamblers themselves.

Recognizing addiction is an important step, and recovery requires a combination of effort, determination, and often external support. As you pointed out, addiction can lead to the loss of many aspects of one's life, including financial stability, relationships, and even employment. This can serve as a wake-up call for some individuals to seek help and make positive changes.
There are some gamblers who have an addiction but do not recognize their addiction. As a result they cannot even recover from that position. I've talked to a few addicted gamblers whose behavior perfectly describes addiction but they deny their addiction when I suggest something to get them out of their addiction. They are not addicted gamblers as they say. But his family members consider him an addicted gambler. Those who identify themselves as addicts they will definitely recover them self.
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September 20, 2023, 07:26:29 PM
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It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

Right, we agree on this. It is very important to avoid any form of addiction at all costs. But in reality, this will involve all aspects of our lives. There are many addictions and causes, and not just gambling or things related to narcotics. In most cases it all starts from habit, and the habits we do become excessive and ultimately get out of control. as you said, when we realize that we fall into the addiction category, recovering requires effort accompanied by strong intention and determination. that is, if we are able to go through every temptation we face in recovery.

The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case money, property, even work, and this applies to all addictions. The point is it's not the casino that's the problem, in this case it's gambling. but in ourselves, in most cases we don't have understanding and control over ourselves. in the end, we ourselves suffer. IMO, there is no best method other than ourselves. In essence, we are given intelligence to think and the problem is how we are able to control it. what I say, will not completely stop the addiction. However, it can reduce excessive habits. In fact, we can change our mindset. but all of that, comes back to the gamblers themselves.

Recognizing addiction is an important step, and recovery requires a combination of effort, determination, and often external support. As you pointed out, addiction can lead to the loss of many aspects of one's life, including financial stability, relationships, and even employment. This can serve as a wake-up call for some individuals to seek help and make positive changes.
There are some gamblers who have an addiction but do not recognize their addiction. As a result they cannot even recover from that position. I've talked to a few addicted gamblers whose behavior perfectly describes addiction but they deny their addiction when I suggest something to get them out of their addiction. They are not addicted gamblers as they say. But his family members consider him an addicted gambler. Those who identify themselves as addicts they will definitely recover them self.
You can’t explain anything to dependent people with words, citing arguments ranging from the well-being of his family to money. Even if he understands everything that is explained to him, he will still do as he sees fit. He may even do it to spite you in order to prove the opposite. Such conversations are pointless and can only make things worse. Until the addict himself loses a lot of money and understands only with his mind that he is an addict, empirically, nothing will change. It will be good if he understands everything the first time and stops playing forever. It’s another matter if he returns years later and begins to lose many times more than before, such people will play and lose for the rest of their lives. I think they are doomed.

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September 20, 2023, 09:24:46 PM
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Honestly speaking, you cannot maintain what you have declared in your post OP. We are not available with you personally to verify if you are gambling or not, so there is no way to know if you have quit or stopped it for a while before your next stream or not.

About quitting gambling, it is never too easy to leave something you are addicted to but with time, things get changed and you can train your mind that way to leave gambling by considering how much you are losing and how it is affecting your real life expenses.
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September 20, 2023, 09:33:03 PM
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The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case, money, property, or even work, and this applies to all addictions.

That is not quitting gambling addiction, because immediately that the person gets access to funds, he or she will still fall back into gambling. After all, they haven't decided to quit. if you find yourself in this condition, the only thing that can get you out is when you decide to quit and disassociate or stay away from anything related to gambling activities like stop visiting gambling shops and sites, possibly staying away from friends who also indulge in gambling and even moving away from the environment if that environment contributed to you being addicted to gambling.
The thing is that,  gambling addiction os almost impossible to quite and this is because getting access to gambling sites through smart devices is easier than before and also if the addict have not really made up his mind to quite,  it may be a difficult quest to do so.

The best advice is to avoid getting into addictions because by the time you are already hucked by addictions,  it will become hard to break out of it and that is why,  it is better to stay from becoming addicted than trying to quit it.
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September 20, 2023, 10:36:44 PM
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Gamble for fun and dont go overexert yourself because if you do make yourself that too impulsive then it would really be ending up on a disaster. This is why you should really be
that careful on not to make yourself that get addicted.
Yes, it has to be like that, if you want to gamble, don't try to gamble for money, because in the end there are two possibilities of losing a lot of money and getting addicted, don't be obsessed with anything about winning big but gamble wisely and responsibly, as you said, gambling should be for Having fun like that is the right way to instill it into our mindset so that we don't get addicted and are truly controlled.

I'm sure many of us always come across words like this in every thread and it will continue to be a warning to all forum users not to gamble excessively beyond their limits so that spending money that is not limited by their budget will never be good in the end, always remember that gambling for something fun, not to try to beat the dealer.

Trying to beat the house will only bring you to spend more than what you can afford, and logically there's no way that you can beat the house it's being design to make money and not to give money, not a cash-cow a very common misconception when a gambler experienced a win they think that it's just easy to keep doing it from time to time.

Better to treat gambling as a way of killing time with an expense that you are willing to let go or can be carried by your budget.

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September 20, 2023, 11:31:48 PM
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Gambling is not for the faint of heart and not what you should do with your whole being, you need some principles to be able to gamble and still remain sane.
You may be right about lacking the courage but that's not what it is. Gambling is not for people who are not mature enough to understand the concept of the game and control their buzz.
3 weeks ago I gambled alot, and made a huge profit, next made less profit, and last week I made a huge loss. If I don't understand the game concept I will continue playing when I need to stop for some time until when I am lucky again.


It's like that, that's basically what everything related to gambling is made of, we are gamblers, you are constantly fighting against the house advantage, it is known that in the long term it will make us lose, the tendency will always be to win in the house , it is something that we must understand, I have made it a conclusion every time I play in a short-term casino, that is, if I have 30USD what I do is play and play, I only manage to multiply it well, but if not I don't insist anymore and accepted the defeat, for me it is the best option, obviously I will play following my own rules, not breaking them because if I break them, I won't do anything, so when we are in this type of activity we know that the most Surely what we have is defeat, that's the main thing we should not worry about that, defeats in the casino, in trading are normal, there is nothing to do there, there are certain advantages that we have when winning, yes, but the Gusts are quite short, and you should take advantage of them.

When in a casino we do Certain things to be able to establish a period of profit or loss, it is very difficult to be profitable in the casino, basically it would be necessary to do something like Every time you win, stop playing even if it is just a little, in case We don't win, we don't spend more than what we have planned, this is a form of protection to know well that only what is coming to us, then in this order of things we as good players who understand everything related to what it is to play , win, lose, we must accept things, so we cannot think that our performance in the casinos is the same if we lose, being profitable in a casino is something almost impossible, it is like in trading, it is Easier to be profitable there, I even dare to think that in elective bets the chances of winning increase enormously because they depend on the person's degree of Knowledge about the sport, and well , of course if luck accompanies it, it is something better.

I think the major issue starts when a gambler doesn't set a goal or doesn't follow the golden rules of gambling which is all triggered by not understanding the concept of gambling is to only provide gamblers the chance of winning while the house will always win.
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September 21, 2023, 04:57:36 AM
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Honestly speaking, you cannot maintain what you have declared in your post OP. We are not available with you personally to verify if you are gambling or not, so there is no way to know if you have quit or stopped it for a while before your next stream or not.
If we talk about stopping gambling I would say that it is difficult and no one can easily stop without the desire to come back again whether the next day or when they will definitely return to gambling because someone who has gambled especially a gambling addict has of adrenaline satisfaction that is addictive and always want to feel that feeling all the time.
Indeed no one knows whether someone has really stopped gambling or returned to gambling again because every gambler always has every way to cover up the gambling activities or addiction that they have experienced and people like this usually keep quiet about gambling.

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About quitting gambling, it is never too easy to leave something you are addicted to but with time, things get changed and you can train your mind that way to leave gambling by considering how much you are losing and how it is affecting your real life expenses.
Sorry but so far it seems like there is no gambler who can really stop gambling completely and some people out there who try to leave gambling with the aim of stopping in the end they also come back again but with all the controls and limits they have.
That why gambling is the place that has the most negative impact on the bottom line regarding addiction.

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September 21, 2023, 12:17:13 PM
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Honestly speaking, you cannot maintain what you have declared in your post OP. We are not available with you personally to verify if you are gambling or not, so there is no way to know if you have quit or stopped it for a while before your next stream or not.
If we talk about stopping gambling I would say that it is difficult and no one can easily stop without the desire to come back again whether the next day or when they will definitely return to gambling because someone who has gambled especially a gambling addict has of adrenaline satisfaction that is addictive and always want to feel that feeling all the time.
Indeed no one knows whether someone has really stopped gambling or returned to gambling again because every gambler always has every way to cover up the gambling activities or addiction that they have experienced and people like this usually keep quiet about gambling.
We already know that stopping gambling is not easy and requires a lot of effort, especially if someone has been gambling for a long time and is even addicted to gambling. They will feel that there is no hope, but there is if they intend to stop gambling and cure their addiction. It depends on a person's intention to cure his gambling addiction. If he really tries, he definitely can. Those who really try will look for the right way to divert their mind from gambling, and even though it is difficult the first time, they do not give up because they believe that good effort will give good results too. So it all depends on a person's intention to cure his gambling addiction.
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September 21, 2023, 04:27:59 PM
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Sorry but so far it seems like there is no gambler who can really stop gambling completely and some people out there who try to leave gambling with the aim of stopping in the end they also come back again but with all the controls and limits they have.
That why gambling is the place that has the most negative impact on the bottom line regarding addiction.
If we all only judge from the bad side, it might be true that there are no gamblers who really recover from gambling and get out of the gambling zone but if you can judge from the good side of most gamblers around the world, there are many successful former gambler who can avoid gambling and are right really stop gambling in any form and it all depends on the commitment of someone who has great desire to live a healthy life without gambling and has idea that there are other places that can be used to find entertainment, not just gambling.
If you say gambling is the place that has most negative impact that bit untrue because some other entertainment venues also have greater level of addiction and I think you can't lie to yourself saying it a place that has a negative impact but you are still here to gamble .

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September 21, 2023, 05:27:27 PM
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Honestly speaking, you cannot maintain what you have declared in your post OP. We are not available with you personally to verify if you are gambling or not, so there is no way to know if you have quit or stopped it for a while before your next stream or not.
If we talk about stopping gambling I would say that it is difficult and no one can easily stop without the desire to come back again whether the next day or when they will definitely return to gambling because someone who has gambled especially a gambling addict has of adrenaline satisfaction that is addictive and always want to feel that feeling all the time.
Indeed no one knows whether someone has really stopped gambling or returned to gambling again because every gambler always has every way to cover up the gambling activities or addiction that they have experienced and people like this usually keep quiet about gambling.
We already know that stopping gambling is not easy and requires a lot of effort, especially if someone has been gambling for a long time and is even addicted to gambling. They will feel that there is no hope, but there is if they intend to stop gambling and cure their addiction. It depends on a person's intention to cure his gambling addiction. If he really tries, he definitely can. Those who really try will look for the right way to divert their mind from gambling, and even though it is difficult the first time, they do not give up because they believe that good effort will give good results too. So it all depends on a person's intention to cure his gambling addiction.
you say its all about a person's intention to cure their gambling addiction, but its never that simple. Complex psychological and physiological problems underlie addiction. Do individuals seek addiction? That they won't stop? Recovery has more challenges than intention. Therapy, medication, and a strong support network are needed.

You're oversimplifying an issue that ruins lives and families. Those who try hard will succeed? Many have tried and failed because they were imprisoned in a system that exploited their vulnerabilities. Dont blame the addict; look at the gambling industry's underlying faults that feed addiction. If someone's in a pit, you dont just tell them to climb out; you offer them a ladder.

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September 21, 2023, 05:30:27 PM
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There are some gamblers who have an addiction but do not recognize their addiction. As a result they cannot even recover from that position. I've talked to a few addicted gamblers whose behavior perfectly describes addiction but they deny their addiction when I suggest something to get them out of their addiction. They are not addicted gamblers as they say. But his family members consider him an addicted gambler. Those who identify themselves as addicts they will definitely recover them self.
The word addiction is very strong and has the power to control someone that's why is always advisable to have a self control and not to allow yourself to be control by what you're doing, so asking an addict to quit gambling is one thing and doing it another thing  because you can't just ask someone to quit gambling were as to him gambling is the precious thing so it will very difficult for the person to quit.

The truth is that a gamblers can hardly admit being addicted to gamble were as they are always with the impression that they are in control of there mindset towards gambling which makes it very difficult for them to quit, is only possible for someone to quit gambling when he admitted to be  an addict that way could slowly help him reduce gambling a bit by bit till he got control over the gambling and can now decides to permanently quit gambling.

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September 22, 2023, 02:27:28 AM
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Honestly speaking, you cannot maintain what you have declared in your post OP. We are not available with you personally to verify if you are gambling or not, so there is no way to know if you have quit or stopped it for a while before your next stream or not.
If we talk about stopping gambling I would say that it is difficult and no one can easily stop without the desire to come back again whether the next day or when they will definitely return to gambling because someone who has gambled especially a gambling addict has of adrenaline satisfaction that is addictive and always want to feel that feeling all the time.
Indeed no one knows whether someone has really stopped gambling or returned to gambling again because every gambler always has every way to cover up the gambling activities or addiction that they have experienced and people like this usually keep quiet about gambling.
We already know that stopping gambling is not easy and requires a lot of effort, especially if someone has been gambling for a long time and is even addicted to gambling. They will feel that there is no hope, but there is if they intend to stop gambling and cure their addiction. It depends on a person's intention to cure his gambling addiction. If he really tries, he definitely can. Those who really try will look for the right way to divert their mind from gambling, and even though it is difficult the first time, they do not give up because they believe that good effort will give good results too. So it all depends on a person's intention to cure his gambling addiction.
I agree with you, healing someone who is addicted to gambling is very difficult, but if you have the determination to stop gambling, you can definitely do it. Do something positive and find something busy so that you don't think about gambling because usually people who are addicted to gambling in their free time will definitely be confused about what they want to do and surely all they can think about is gambling.
I understand very well why it is difficult for people who are addicted to gambling to be cured because they do not have the determination to recover. The only way they can stop is that they have run out of money to gamble. That can make them stop for a while, but it is not impossible if they have their money. will do it again unless they really have the determination to stop and do something positive I think they can stop gambling.

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September 22, 2023, 08:42:57 AM
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There are some gamblers who have an addiction but do not recognize their addiction. As a result they cannot even recover from that position. I've talked to a few addicted gamblers whose behavior perfectly describes addiction but they deny their addiction when I suggest something to get them out of their addiction. They are not addicted gamblers as they say. But his family members consider him an addicted gambler. Those who identify themselves as addicts they will definitely recover them self.
The word addiction is very strong and has the power to control someone that's why is always advisable to have a self control and not to allow yourself to be control by what you're doing, so asking an addict to quit gambling is one thing and doing it another thing  because you can't just ask someone to quit gambling were as to him gambling is the precious thing so it will very difficult for the person to quit.

The truth is that a gamblers can hardly admit being addicted to gamble were as they are always with the impression that they are in control of there mindset towards gambling which makes it very difficult for them to quit, is only possible for someone to quit gambling when he admitted to be  an addict that way could slowly help him reduce gambling a bit by bit till he got control over the gambling and can now decides to permanently quit gambling.

Would you say it's simple? Saying, "Hey, just quit" to someone? No. If only everything were that simple. Addiction is not something you can simply turn off, especially when it comes to gambling. Even while they're bleeding chips, it permeates into their bones and makes them feel like kings and queens. Though they are merely marionettes dancing to the harsh melodies of fate and chance, they mistakenly believe they are the puppet masters. They know they're drowning, yet they refuse to admit it or even reach for a lifeline. Therefore, be aware of the gravity of their situation before offering advise. How about people who are engulfed in this vice? Acceptance is the first step in taking back your life, not a sign of weakness. Awaken before the house consumes everything.

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September 22, 2023, 10:01:28 AM
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The word addiction is very strong and has the power to control someone that's why is always advisable to have a self control and not to allow yourself to be control by what you're doing, so asking an addict to quit gambling is one thing and doing it another thing  because you can't just ask someone to quit gambling were as to him gambling is the precious thing so it will very difficult for the person to quit.

The truth is that a gamblers can hardly admit being addicted to gamble were as they are always with the impression that they are in control of there mindset towards gambling which makes it very difficult for them to quit, is only possible for someone to quit gambling when he admitted to be  an addict that way could slowly help him reduce gambling a bit by bit till he got control over the gambling and can now decides to permanently quit gambling.

Would you say it's simple? Saying, "Hey, just quit" to someone? No. If only everything were that simple. Addiction is not something you can simply turn off, especially when it comes to gambling. Even while they're bleeding chips, it permeates into their bones and makes them feel like kings and queens. Though they are merely marionettes dancing to the harsh melodies of fate and chance, they mistakenly believe they are the puppet masters. They know they're drowning, yet they refuse to admit it or even reach for a lifeline. Therefore, be aware of the gravity of their situation before offering advise. How about people who are engulfed in this vice? Acceptance is the first step in taking back your life, not a sign of weakness. Awaken before the house consumes everything.
I agree with you if addiction were to be easily control nobody would have become an addict one of the most difficult thing to overcome or control is addict especially in gambling because an addiction is like a disease that if not properly taking care of it will eat you up and kept you in a condition you would never wish for yourself so truly quitting gambling can only be easy for someone who has control over his emotions and mental state about gambling while on the other hand is very hard for those that drown themselves on gambling were as they see gambling as everything and as such becoming an addict of gambling it will be very difficult and involves a lot of process to slowly quit gambling because just as you said you can't just ask an addict to stop gambling it never work that way.

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September 22, 2023, 11:43:44 AM
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Would you say it's simple? Saying, "Hey, just quit" to someone? No.

No, because the human brain is wired to think in that manner.
Let say there is a gambler who have received payment today and first he kept aside fund for his daily expenses, and left over with a reasonable amount which is right if can be saved for his child education, insurance policy, emergency, etc.
instead of saving he goes to casino for some day until he busts his leftover payment.
first day he won a small amount and gone home feeling happy and he didn't purchased anything for his wife or children by that winning amount.
next day he wins.
next day he loses his 10% amount in one game, now he is becoming a aggressive gambler, he started betting 5%-20% of his bankroll in one bet.
after playing some bet he loses his all money which was left that day when he received his payment.
after losing he becomes so angry at him and start to think ("i always lose all of my money on these stupid games, i will never gamble again") after some times his mind becomes calm and he start to think (oh! i was lost because of that mistake... I will try playing and recovering my all lost money on next payment day)
this cycle repeat in his mind and he becomes an addict who loses his hard earned money playing games, risking his families future. keeping them restricted to even a small luxury like giving a fake but beautiful ring to his wife, gifting his children with a little expensive pen which they can show to their friends in school and make them feel jealous, etc.
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September 22, 2023, 01:29:18 PM
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Sorry but so far it seems like there is no gambler who can really stop gambling completely and some people out there who try to leave gambling with the aim of stopping in the end they also come back again but with all the controls and limits they have.
That why gambling is the place that has the most negative impact on the bottom line regarding addiction.
Actually, it depends on the person's intention to stop gambling. There is a friend of mine who is an addict. He can stop gambling by reducing his gambling activities until he finally stops completely, but there is also a friend of mine who can't stop gambling but he can reduce his activities. gambling so he doesn't gamble as often as before.

Every human being has their own life choices and also has different problems, sometimes there are reasons why people who have stopped gambling can gamble again, that's why as people who have friends who are addicts, it's a good idea for us to continue to monitor and warn that we gamble wisely so that don't become an addict and spend a lot of money and time when gambling by reducing it slowly it will look better.

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September 22, 2023, 05:38:16 PM
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Sorry but so far it seems like there is no gambler who can really stop gambling completely and some people out there who try to leave gambling with the aim of stopping in the end they also come back again but with all the controls and limits they have.
That why gambling is the place that has the most negative impact on the bottom line regarding addiction.
Actually, it depends on the person's intention to stop gambling. There is a friend of mine who is an addict. He can stop gambling by reducing his gambling activities until he finally stops completely, but there is also a friend of mine who can't stop gambling but he can reduce his activities. gambling so he doesn't gamble as often as before.

Every human being has their own life choices and also has different problems, sometimes there are reasons why people who have stopped gambling can gamble again, that's why as people who have friends who are addicts, it's a good idea for us to continue to monitor and warn that we gamble wisely so that don't become an addict and spend a lot of money and time when gambling by reducing it slowly it will look better.

There are different takes in each individual that involve to these activities, gambling is addicted not a secret but a reality that those who experienced it can testify that it's tough to resist, but yes, depending from a persons self-will that he can re-organized and make things change according to how he plan things ahead, maybe there are some who can say that they manage to beat addiction but most might still at denial stage or maybe already deeply involve and can't no longer resist.

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September 22, 2023, 05:42:17 PM
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Sorry but so far it seems like there is no gambler who can really stop gambling completely and some people out there who try to leave gambling with the aim of stopping in the end they also come back again but with all the controls and limits they have.
That why gambling is the place that has the most negative impact on the bottom line regarding addiction.
Actually, it depends on the person's intention to stop gambling. There is a friend of mine who is an addict. He can stop gambling by reducing his gambling activities until he finally stops completely, but there is also a friend of mine who can't stop gambling but he can reduce his activities. gambling so he doesn't gamble as often as before.

Every human being has their own life choices and also has different problems, sometimes there are reasons why people who have stopped gambling can gamble again, that's why as people who have friends who are addicts, it's a good idea for us to continue to monitor and warn that we gamble wisely so that don't become an addict and spend a lot of money and time when gambling by reducing it slowly it will look better.

It depends on a person's ability to control his urges and willingness to heal themselves from gambling addiction. If a person is really into gambling, he can't stop or turn his back from it in just a blink of an eye, it takes a long process. Reducing his gambling little by little would be a good move. He doesn't necessarily need to stop right away because it takes a lot of courage and effort to stop our gambling activities.
We can warn and advise them but it won't be as easy as we say and it's honestly challenging on their side but if gambling is ruining their lives and they can't do anything to quit, it would be best for them to seek for professional help.
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September 22, 2023, 05:59:54 PM
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It is key to avoid any form of addiction at all costs, because once you are there the effort and determination needed to leave it behind is astronomical, however I really think that people underestimate how damaging an addiction can be and it is because of this they do not take the necessary steps to avoid it, and once they realize the truth there is nothing they can do but to try to improve the old-fashioned way, and unfortunately there are many people that fail on this goal and will keep their addiction for the rest of their lives.

Right, we agree on this. It is very important to avoid any form of addiction at all costs. But in reality, this will involve all aspects of our lives. There are many addictions and causes, and not just gambling or things related to narcotics. In most cases it all starts from habit, and the habits we do become excessive and ultimately get out of control. as you said, when we realize that we fall into the addiction category, recovering requires effort accompanied by strong intention and determination. that is, if we are able to go through every temptation we face in recovery.

The only thing that makes someone quit their addiction is that someone no longer has anything, in this case money, property, even work, and this applies to all addictions. The point is it's not the casino that's the problem, in this case it's gambling. but in ourselves, in most cases we don't have understanding and control over ourselves. in the end, we ourselves suffer. IMO, there is no best method other than ourselves. In essence, we are given intelligence to think and the problem is how we are able to control it. what I say, will not completely stop the addiction. However, it can reduce excessive habits. In fact, we can change our mindset. but all of that, comes back to the gamblers themselves.

Recognizing addiction is an important step, and recovery requires a combination of effort, determination, and often external support. As you pointed out, addiction can lead to the loss of many aspects of one's life, including financial stability, relationships, and even employment. This can serve as a wake-up call for some individuals to seek help and make positive changes.
There are some gamblers who have an addiction but do not recognize their addiction. As a result they cannot even recover from that position. I've talked to a few addicted gamblers whose behavior perfectly describes addiction but they deny their addiction when I suggest something to get them out of their addiction. They are not addicted gamblers as they say. But his family members consider him an addicted gambler. Those who identify themselves as addicts they will definitely recover them self.
Gambling addicts are never willing to admit that they are addicted to gambling because they cannot fill their own addiction. They then consider excessive gambling as normal. So you can never convince a gambling addict that he is deeply addicted to gambling and that it is harming him. So it is very difficult to force those people to Quit gambling. And do their families also start to feel disgusted with their behavior


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