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July 13, 2023, 11:39:21 AM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Why would Elon launch a Twitter app clone? it has go head to head against Mark Z Threads.

I must admit though that I dowloaded it and try, but then again, I'm old school so I just have like a couple of social media accounts or presence just to corresponds with my family and friend.

It's more on Mark Z to prove if his new app can compete, not the other way around.

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July 13, 2023, 12:55:47 PM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

Possible chance with this wars of the both known person into the world have a chance of a price movement, for example, if Mark overcomes all the things done by Elon there's a chance their stocks rise up the same way with the things doing by Elon at the end of the day its all about the investors choice that they could see a potential came from those service provider, at the end they are looking for the profit so they just need to wait the result. Recently they release a thread features which is already have by the twitter too but not all people compromise their use of it.

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July 13, 2023, 01:06:11 PM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

It would be stupid enough if Musk launched a Twitter clone when he already had full control of Twitter. Your question should be, what if Musk launched an app like Instagram or Facebook? will it be as hype as this Threads? given that Musk has the resources to be able to launch his own social media. But what's the point? innovation from social media itself is quite difficult for now. The latest to hit the market is Tiktok, but I'm quite skeptical that Musk will be able to launch a booming social media like Tiktok. Even if he ends up launching his own social media, it's just mediocre, just like what Trump did when he launched Truth Social, it's not even known by many people, because it lacks innovation and products that are less attractive.

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July 13, 2023, 02:05:08 PM
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We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Elon Musk has made some mistakes experimenting with Twitter and it is affecting the company negatively. Thread came up with a more flexible policy and user-friendly option and it also gives users more options. If Twitter comes up with a clone of Twitter, its success will depend on the innovation, operation, and terms and conditions of the app. People want something new that will clearly be better than its rivals or alternative. And if the new app is widely accepted by the end users, the stock price of the company will increase. If Elon Musk comes up with a product that is better than Twitter people will gladly embrace it.

Experiments on twitter already doing great has lead to user complaining and jumping out immediately the application thread was launched. Also the Application Twitter has become more boring, more like for trolling, Joe Biden ( POTUS ), Volodymyr Zelensky, Mark Zuckerberg and many more. Ohh, this could be his own definition of the word free speech? I have noticed how he gets fewer reactions ( both likes and comments to what he says ). Honestly, I don't think this is how the head of twitch should behave, he's almost a talkative to some users now.

From what I read, seems like those layed off from twitter help in the creation and launching of twitter. He should solve problems and not imposing ideas and forcing people to stick to em.
There's no need, he should learn the lessons and improve. Launching a new twitter won't give him shit. Nothing!

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July 13, 2023, 03:29:57 PM
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We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Many people were already offended with Elon Musk for the changes he made to twitter when he took over. If not for the name that twitter already had and the fact that there was no alternative, twitter would have fallen a long time ago. Mark noticed this and took advantage creating a competition for Elon Musk Twitter. Elon Musk does not need to create a new platform; he just needs to make some changes to the polices he made on twitter and make it attractive since there is competition now so he can attract back the users of twitter that already left.

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July 13, 2023, 04:24:39 PM
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It's easy to gain new users for this Threads app, since Meta owns Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp.
It's pretty clear at this point that Threads was built to be Twitter's competitor and maybe it will attract all the advertisers, who left Twitter.
The app is perfect because Elon Musk thinks he can play God on his app. Imagine restricting the number of tweets one can have access to and also paying $8 to get a blue check. This has made a lot of Twitter users not to be happy. And Threads came at the right time. It took the things that people love about Twitter and integrated Facebook and Instagram right into it. You can literally access your Instagram network without starting from scratch. This is why is was an instant success at launching. It is definitely a strong competitor, as it outlasts Twitter's financial struggles and lack of profitability. Meta stock keeps performing exceptionally well. As at the time of writing this it is at 314.43 (1.65% increase)potentially reaching all-time highs soon.

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July 13, 2023, 05:11:48 PM
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A clone app for Twitter, definitely bad idea and nothing will happen with the shares of Twitter. First let us understand that when Elon possessed Twitter it already had negative impact on the Twitter and it’s economy and we saw how he started firing the employees including its CEO. This was worst move and it could have been handled in very different way.

Secondly, it was again worst move about the blue tick. In the initial version user had to prove their identity and now anyone can buy it with money. He turned it into money making machine not for the share holders but for himself.

Third, a clone Twitter would be even worst than this.
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

In reality, you may found out that we are just Netizen who don't know what is happening in reality or perhaps maybe it's because everyome has become part of the internet that we don't give a damn about what is happening outside the internet. No way Elon and Mark will drag each other the way some people are speculating the whole thing, the influencers and the media are the ones fueling the everything. In the real sense, anyone can copy an idea if it's open to the public, Mark just happened to have money to create a similar idea from another perspectives, if it has been an ordinary person, Elon would have silent the creativity behind that app and lord knows how many talented develoers they have silent so far.

It will be a waste of resources if Elon decided to clone a similar app like Twitter, he would have done so in the first place before he acquire Twitter. He knows how important Twitter is to the world at large and that's why he bought  despite the hiccups that happened along the way, it's not a something to even think of right now as there are more debt to be paid off to settle Twitter payment.

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July 13, 2023, 06:54:50 PM
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We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Perhaps it would have been a successful step if Elon Musk had taken it before making the decision to complete the Twitter purchase.  I mean that he launches his own platform, so he does not need to buy Twitter, which I expect to be successful due to Musk's popularity.  But he chose to invest in a bankrupt platform without taking into account the strong competition with other platforms such as Meta. 
On the other hand, I do not expect that the new "thread" application will make a major change in the social media market. All that matters is that Meta expands its profits and wants to benefit more from its users.
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July 13, 2023, 07:51:58 PM
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If Elon Musk wants to regain the trust of the users then he will have to convince the users that Twitter is still the old Twitter and the ones who will be using the platform wont be affected in any way due to the recent announcements. Or he may directly declare that he has changed his plans related to changing of Twitter, and even with a simple statement like this the stock price of Twitter will gain a pump within days. But, if Elon continues to stick with his announcements and ideas then in future the stock price of Twitter will fall further down to unexpected levels.

In what way has Elon failed? By uncovering collusion with the U.S. government and Twitter executives to influence elections and allowing free speech on the platform? Elon hurt his own wallet by purchasing Twitter. Right now it isn't profitable. There's more trust by Twitter users than there ever was before because of the transparency that was nonexistent when partisan hacks ran the company.

I've already seen Threads censors users. Assume that Zuckerberg and government bureaucrats will use the platform to data mine its users and breach user privacy.

and even with a simple statement like this the stock price of Twitter will gain a pump within days. But, if Elon continues to stick with his announcements and ideas then in future the stock price of Twitter will fall further down to unexpected levels.

Are you at all aware that Twitter is a private company now?
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July 13, 2023, 08:24:52 PM
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Secondly, it was again worst move about the blue tick. In the initial version user had to prove their identity and now anyone can buy it with money. He turned it into money making machine not for the share holders but for himself.


I agree. The implementation of the paid verification to enable just anyone get verified and have the blue tick on your profile didn’t go down well with a lot of people. During the early stages where the paid verification was implemented, some nefarious characters tried to/ fooled a lot of people by impersonating verified accounts and some got away with it too.
Perhaps in his bid to recoup money, he got the idea of having people subscribe and pay to get verified on a free app cause funds gotten from other sources probably slowed down.
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

That was possibly one of the senseless things I've ever read. Facebook saw an opportunity to compete, by building a similar platform, with Twitter because Elon has ruined it so much. If Elon had any intelligence he would not have overpaid and then gutted the platform. He doesn't need to launch a rival because he already owns the largest version of that site in the space, he would just end up cannibalising Twitter even more.

Also, twitter shares were delisted from public listing, so all shares are privately held now and pricing is pretty much irrelevant because he is not selling any of them on the open market - there is no bump compared to Facebook.

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July 15, 2023, 06:51:02 PM
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We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Many people were already offended with Elon Musk for the changes he made to twitter when he took over. If not for the name that twitter already had and the fact that there was no alternative, twitter would have fallen a long time ago. Mark noticed this and took advantage creating a competition for Elon Musk Twitter. Elon Musk does not need to create a new platform; he just needs to make some changes to the polices he made on twitter and make it attractive since there is competition now so he can attract back the users of twitter that already left.

But that's not all that. If you are speaking of twitter but only referring to the owner Musk vs. Mark, well I guess you're missing a point. It's a quest between two companies not the wners. Twitter already has an established algorithm, purpose, and brand. There's content policy, free of speech. For most content creators and influencers, their main platform is twitter paying for those blue verified indicators. compared to threads, there's still a lot of improvement. Twitter has a lot of advantage to maintain its stock price, but once threads cope with those gaps it will surely blast its own trend.

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July 15, 2023, 07:32:24 PM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

There is no transparency in many of Mark Zuckerberg application, I think this Threads is same firstly I noticed that it's just another version of Instagram and automatically you can get added by your friends from Instagram although some people who are in chase of increased followers but people like me that love privacy aren't cool with it.

I have stayed on the application for a while and if the intention was for threads to compete with Twitter then I don't see any competition, Twitter is on a league of its own and mark Zuckerberg should not expect to dethrone Twitter. I think threads hype would die down in few days .

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July 15, 2023, 08:04:38 PM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

There is no transparency in many of Mark Zuckerberg application, I think this Threads is same firstly I noticed that it's just another version of Instagram and automatically you can get added by your friends from Instagram although some people who are in chase of increased followers but people like me that love privacy aren't cool with it.

I have stayed on the application for a while and if the intention was for threads to compete with Twitter then I don't see any competition, Twitter is on a league of its own and mark Zuckerberg should not expect to dethrone Twitter. I think threads hype would die down in few days .
Indeed, so far no one has been able to compete with Twitter but with Threads at least it makes competition even though it will be difficult,
I think we need to look at the positive side,
and regarding the hype it seems that we can see that from the beginning they started switching to Threads now they are back to Twitter.

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July 15, 2023, 08:15:18 PM
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Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter

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July 16, 2023, 02:45:52 AM
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I haven't used the new app, but I wouldn't be surprised if Meta would one day release an app like that. Meta's intention may not really be hard to guess. There's a certain kind of beauty in Twitter's design and Meta is probably aware of it and would want to have their own version. Could this be an experiment? Yes and no. Yes, because every new release is a test. You wouldn't know whether people would embrace it or not. At the same time, no, because it isn't entirely new. Part of the plan is to compete against Musk's Twitter.

It isn't an Instagram clone because you can do away with images. You can make text-only posts.

Why would Musk clone his own app? If Musk is to create a new platform, it would be similar to a competing platform like TikTok or YouTube or Instagram. Meta's Instagram team created Thread to put up a competitor against Twitter. So, Twitter team would probably not create a competitor against itself but against another app.

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July 16, 2023, 05:00:54 AM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
The question is what's the main purpose of threads that Zuckerberg has been added? I'm using Meta for a very long time already, and I don't think that I will be using this threads.

I'm also thinking that this threads has been created just because of the beef between Zuckerberg, and Elon Musk. I mean it has been released while they have a beef with each other. You already said that it's just a mere clone of Instagram, so maybe this threads will just die in a year or two if most Instagram users find Instagram better than threads. If not then some might switch, make a transition from Instagram to Threads.

To answer your question, I don't know the reason why Elon will create an app same as threads? I mean Elon Musk already said that Twitter cash flow is negative due to ad revenue declines, ‘heavy debt’ base on this article: LINK. I don't see any reason as to why Elon needs to create a clone of his Twitter app. For competition purposes? It's pretty obvious that the trend of Twitter is declining, and now he will create a clone of his own app? That's nonsense if you will ask me.

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July 16, 2023, 05:26:04 AM
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Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter
Twitter as a platform was losing users even before Elon, however once Elon took over Twitter they have lost way more users, however while this may sound like a bad thing, and in a way it is, stockholders at the end only care about the profitability of the company and not about the number of active users.

And in that regard I am not so sure if Elon is doing so badly as he has reduced the expenses of the company as many people got fired as well, so it is possible his administration has not been as bad as we think it has been.

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July 16, 2023, 06:11:50 PM
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Twitters stock itself can't rise at the moment, it sucks and has been getting worse and worse over time as well, we can't really see it grow bigger until Elon sells it. You have to accept, no matter how much YOU may like him, he is not liked overall by the bigger population, twitter is not used by people who like him a lot neither, I am not saying there are none, just the amount of people who doesn't is bigger, and we can see this from horrible drop in ad revenue as well, even their twitter blue is not making them enough profit.

So all in all I have to say it is getting worse and will keep getting worse as well. Twitter one day will be gone, it is not going to be easy, but it will happen and when it does, it is going to hurt his finances a lot.

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