The problems newbies face

[dansus021]

Wait wait I just recently read thread about  Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456580.80 and now the OP make this tread I dont know if this connected case hehehe

but hey who has been attacked you? I mean we all here are learning and sharing about the crypto industry tha growing every single day tho if you want like merit you need keep post and someday you will get it even me as hero member is still learning and keep posting about what I know and somtimes people merit me

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[Faisal2202]

Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .

This forum is an international forum and according to my analysis, it has 1 million users monthly. around 30k daily. Mostly from US (as many people use US proxy). So, the point is so many people have different approaches to discussing something. Like if you have made a mistake then one member will be suggesting you follow some rules so that next time you would not make the same mistake. one member will be making a joke out of you in fact I do not think they are making fun of you they just wanted to let know that.

Rules do matter here and if you will not take them seriously the members of this forum will not take you seriously so we and newbies have to get familiar with the rules before making mistakes that could cause them permanently banned. Just like my previous reply where a newbie named rosmar14 i think was banned for burst posting and single-line posting. He made 20+ posts in a day and all of them were on line.

So, what do you think, will happen if the senior members of this forum will not help you to understand the forum rules and will allow you to make mistakes all the time? Of course, your account will be banned too. And i think a little bearing of the words coming out of different mouths must be filtered by you like to whom give attention and to whom not.

[knowngunman]

Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .

Normally newbies who just join this forum are not willing to learn or contribute to conversation. Perhaps, that's the reason they feel attacked when they're being corrected. Take a look at yourself for example, your focus is on merit while I believe that you have not even take time to read a single thread about Forum rules and guidelines. There's no place reserve for any rank to post in so far you are not off point from topic of discussion even as a newbie you can post anywhere either by comment or by creating thread. Just make sure your post is adding value and on topic.

People were here doing absolutely fine before the merit system was introduced. They were not posting for merit and that should be the kind of mindset we should all have towards the forum. Don't be desperate for merit, improve your post and merit will be hunting you. It's easy to detect when one is desperate for merit and you might not get again if you are noticed.

So once I post something good like how many paragraph .

This is not an essay competition. Quality post is not about paragraph, it can be just a word, one line or a few lines. What matters is the weight of information your post contains and that's all. Nobody is after your grammar or long thread and besides people have a lot to do, it makes sense when you make your post short and understandable. Some long thread and boring and might not be read to the end.

[Bureau]

You should be open to take both negative and positive comments when you are on a public forum. I haven't seen anyone getting attack here but in few occasions newbies do get trolled. Which is far lesser here than other forums or social media platforms. Learn from your mistakes and work hard on improving your writing skills if you want to succeed here.

[BD Crypto]

Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .

Why you are indicating forum rules and guidelines as a reason of being attacked for newbies? These rules are universal among the forum members. You just imagine, what will happen when there will be no rules? This forum will not be a place for constructive discussion and everywhere there will be full of spamming.

You wrote about gaining merits which isn't mandatory to gain and you can either join a discussion or ask something and obviously can learn anything related to crypto. But if you want to grow here then you have to be constructive.

Another reason you said about the oldest members. They are much more informative, helpful and we'll experienced. If you post like a fool or without doing a little research then they will obviously give you instructions and they are responsible to correct your faults. Always make a thin skin if you have been criticized unfortunately but that can't be a barrier for a newbie.

[Majestic-milf]

 I think you'd only get 'attacked' when you refuse to read the rules of the board you want to post on and continue spamming. No one's an island of knowledge or is expected to hit 100 on post quality but at least it should show you put effort.
Most newbies are concerned about making their first "I'm a newbie" post and forget to go through other posts that have been on the forum so that they can at least get a hint on how to start.
 I believe what can make you get merits is just simple; give yourself to reading more than posting. This way when you make your posts, they are educative and thought provoking. When there's no knowledge gotten from your posts, you'd manage to get yourself more replied than merits.

[blckhawk]

So once I post something good like how many paragraph .

A good post is subjective, it can be a large wall of text or it can be a short statement. The point being is that you should know what you're talking about and you have the capacity to convey it in such manner that it's not boring to read if long but gets the point across if short.

I wouldn't say that this forum is hostile to newbies, a lot of the old users here are just tired of dealing with spammers and other entities that don't really want to contribute to the forum hence they may seem like unapproachable. If you really want to learn about bitcoin, you wouldn't mind their attitude and just try to learn something, real recognizes real as the saying goes.

[yahoo62278]

If you're a newbie, you're most likely going to be corrected a few times. It's going to feel like you're being yelled at, but it's nothing more than a forum user who has been around for awhile, trying to push you to learn. Of course, there are random assholes who are likely yelling at you because they're just angry people.

The newbies that face the hardest time in here are the ones who make an account and head directly for the lending section and think they're going to get free money. Those newbies don't last long before being tagged. You should't come to a new place thinking these people don't know me and think they are just going to hand you money.

When you make an account you should really go to all the sticky threads and read them. Get yourself acquainted with the rules and learn how the forum works. You shouldn't be too worried about merits until you have an understanding of what they are and why people give them to you. Below is a list of 3 threads every newbie should read.

Unnofficial Rules

Forum ranks

Merits and other useful data

[aysg76]

If you treat and guidance the same way then nothing can be done because as far as I have seen most members guide newbies to read rules and follow them so they don't accidentally or intentionally violates any rules which will prevent them from further posting here and spend quality time over forum.But most of newbies do the same mistakes like asking how to rank up,gain merits or earn on this forum without even understanding how things works here so in these cases high rank members can guide them efficiently if they are interested in learning to it.

[Lucius]

Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .

Maybe because you pretend that there are no rules or you think that the forum is a company that needs to hire you on the first day and give you a salary because a friend convinced you of it and that's why you actually came here?

Since you've only written 15 posts so far, and some of those posts seem like a combination of plagiarism&paraphrasing. Example 1 and 2

[rat03gopoh]

Looking at your post history, I'm not surprised why you were "attacked". In fact most of your posts are really annoying, like this one https://ninjastic.space/post/62563035.
Being in the newbie position doesn't mean you're limited to just making posts on Beginner&Help board. And you should avoid making posts just because something simple without much meaning crosses your mind.
But sorry, it looks like you really have to read more forum rules first for a while rather than writing something.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Maybe because you pretend that there are no rules or you think that the forum is a company that needs to hire you on the first day and give you a salary because a friend convinced you of it and that's why you actually came here?

Since you've only written 15 posts so far, and some of those posts seem like a combination of plagiarism&paraphrasing. Example 1 and 2

Our OP is another snowflake that cries at any criticism. But look at his registration date; exactly a year has passed, and he still considers himself a beginner.
And yes, you are right; he has beautiful plagiarism, which he successfully managed to avoid. He copied a post from one group from the Telegram channel, but today this group no longer exists, and the entire history has been erased. All that's left is history.

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[Belarge]

As newbie I will advice you to be focused and be dedicated to the forum, always try to read trends and understand before replying (posting) so your posts can be meaningful to warrant you having merits.

Other members will only attack you when you are making mistakes, don't see it as quarrel, they only want you to learn more, so you can avoid making further mistakes (errors).

Welcome consistency in the forum and post things are meaningful, merits will come....

[PytagoraZ]

Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .

This is a discussion forum. If you like to read and write then you will feel at home here and won't find many problems. So, if you have good writing skills, you will easily get merit. So practice your writing skills and read a lot.

[SamReomo]

The problems newbies face is that they complain about pEoPLe NoT GiViNg MeRiTs instead of actually improving their post quality through actually learning about this industry. It's just a BS excuse; like a janitor wanting to be paid the same as a CEO.

I strongly agree with you! The newbies often face some harsh responses because they tend to beg for merits instead of doing their best to contribute to the forum. They never focus on their post quality and they often tend to post on the threads or bounty campaigns to earn something from the forum.

The posts made in bounty campaigns are not valid posts for someone to send merits to such users because in this forums merits are mostly given to those who deserve to get those merits, and someone behavior, post quality, and helping nature matters a lot to gain merits in a positive way. Begging for merits just to rank up faster is the worst thing someone does and unfortunately newbies often do that.

@OP I recommend you to learn about Bitcoin and this forum, and then try your best to create good quality posts which other users find helpful and then over time you will notice that how generous the members of this forum are. However, if someone continues to post low quality, not well constructed posts, and asks that why he/she is not getting good response from others then that guy should first watch his/her own faults before blaming others.

[stompix]

Normally newbies who just join this forum

Yeah, bs!
Normal newbies are not opening topics left and right telling others about crypto trading, crypto security, advantages of blockchain and stuff like that.
Normal newbies don't open topics with the opening post in almost perfect English and then suddenly revert to posting unreadable gibberish that makes no sense in other topics.
Normal newbies do reply to the comments on the topics they've opened, they don't just throw the bait and wait for a merit fish!

The whole thing is getting ridiculous, the forum is bombarded with topics opened by accounts that have spent barely anytime here teaching others everything, from personal motivation to how to succeed in agriculture, how to live a fulfilling life, how to secure your wealth, how to deal with family issues, the only thing I haven't yet seen is drug addiction advices.

gaining merit .

That's the real problem, right?

Also, newbie...right! Newbie!

[PytagoraZ]

The whole thing is getting ridiculous, the forum is bombarded with topics opened by accounts that have spent barely anytime here teaching others everything, from personal motivation to how to succeed in agriculture, how to live a fulfilling life, how to secure your wealth, how to deal with family issues, the only thing I haven't yet seen is drug addiction advices.

Maybe he's really trying to earn merit by making a post like that.

gaining merit .

That's the real problem, right?

Maybe he was getting frustrated because his efforts were in vain

[SmartGold01]

There's no one attacking newbies everyone is free to post here in this forum what matters is you keeping the rules as instructed and whenever you are abiding to them no higher rank member will oppress you, all less you don't wanna read and respond accordingly to what the thread and topic are saying. Merits is gain by a post worth quality enough or maybe is found interesting by people and is also helpful to the community at large. I advised you to be free and removed this mindset of higher member attacking you due to low rank as a beginner.

[Jessie2121]

Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .

Attacked you say? I don't see any as attack. But see it this way, if the high ranked members don't use that style on we the newbies do you think some of us newbies would learn how to drop post in the right places? To me no, so it you see when they uses hard words on someone or on you per say I prefer to see it as part of learning and don't take it the wrong way cause if you do I don't think you'd find it healthy to move forward in this forum. After all we're here to learn and exchange knowledge of what we know. Nobody is perfect even them, I mean the big guys in the forum don't know it all, we need each other to learn and grow faster. For me I'm still learning in terms of starting up a thread and where to put it, is a step at a time.

[Findingnemo]

As newbie I will advice you to be focused and be dedicated to the forum, always try to read trends and understand before replying (posting) so your posts can be meaningful to warrant you having merits.

Other members will only attack you when you are making mistakes, don't see it as quarrel, they only want you to learn more, so you can avoid making further mistakes (errors).

Welcome consistency in the forum and post things are meaningful, merits will come....

Can we please replace the "Attack" with Criticism which seems more appropriate since no one is actually attacking anyone, all they try to do is criticize if they doesn't fit what they are proposing, when they were wrong and instances like that.

And anyone who can't handle the criticism should avoid engaging in public forum discussions so it will be good for both parties.