Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn.

[Ayebabara]

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

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[TelolettOm]

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

If it is about forum, I agree that newbies shouldn't teach others because they actually have just started to know forum. When they teach others, they may lose their focus or share something they don't really understand. Other people can misunderstand it, or people got unproven knowledge. This is something too early to do by newbies.

Contributing on the forum can be varied, it is not only about the knowledge about forum. Newbies can share their experience on the other field (out side of forum), everyone must have their own experience to share with others. If it is about the experience on trading or investment, I still can trust newbies. Newbie accounts don't always mean newbie trader or newbie investor.


*I assume sharing isn't intended to teach others.

[CryptSafe]

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

If it is about forum, I agree that newbies shouldn't teach others because they actually have just started to know forum. When they teach others, they may lose their focus or share something they don't really understand. Other people can misunderstand it, or people got unproven knowledge. This is something too early to do by newbies.

Contributing on the forum can be varied, it is not only about the knowledge about forum. Newbies can share their experience on the other field (out side of forum), everyone must have their own experience to share with others. If it is about the experience on trading or investment, I still can trust newbies. Newbie accounts don't always mean newbie trader or newbie investor.


*I assume sharing isn't intended to teach others.

Well I must say this, most of these newbies are well to do in knowledge about this platform. I have seen many newbies here who really knows their ways around this platform and for the first time making posts at the right board which means that some also know the right board and tell me if a newbie could make just a first post on the right board, does this not tell you something?  Some newbies possibly are in the know how things works here, some are fast learner while some are otherwise.

From what I can see here the tag newbie limits them to sharing their experience no matter how vast they are in knowledge about the platform as long as you have the tag newbie you are limited and therefore you are assumed not to know much and would be advised to learn.

[LogitechMouse]

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I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.

Well, it's funny, but it's true. I've seen newbies acting like they are experts here where they are just advising people out of nowhere.
On the other hand, I think this topic is pretty subjective (at least for me).

What if that newbie-ranked user has been lurking in this forum for years already before registering? We can still read things including rules here even though we aren't registering an account right?
What if that newbie-ranked user has been involved with cryptocurrency for let's say 5 years already? For 5 years, for sure he might know the basics of investing, and maybe the complex things about crypto.

Some might agree that newbies shouldn't teaching higher ranked users here, and that's true, but I still believe that ranks here aren't a basis whether you should share or advice people or not. Like I said, there might be some newbie ranked users out there who knows everything about crypto. Though in general, newbies really don't know anything about crypto, but they're the ones who act like they know everything which is kind of funny, and disappointing at the same time.

[Qiubell5]

I as a newbie here feel the OP's suggestion is true. Others have better experience and knowledge than I do. And I must continue to learn and correct my mistakes. Teaching something to others about something that is not known by oneself, is not good. Because the impression is like conveying something without knowledge.

[reagansimms]

A high Rank account does not guarantee more knowledge than an account that has two activities, someone who controls a Legendary account with 1000 Airdrop merit is not necessarily better than a Newbie who just joined the forum. Advice can come from anyone, as long as the advice has an educational nature and is useful for other members I think it can be justified even if the one giving advice is an account that has two activities.
A person's knowledge cannot be measured by account ratings, perhaps they already had a lot of knowledge before finding their way to forums. As long as it doesn't violate the forum rules and doesn't harm other members, newbies may advise people in the forum.

[Rockstarguy]

I as a newbie here feel the OP's suggestion is true. Others have better experience and knowledge than I do. And I must continue to learn and correct my mistakes. Teaching something to others about something that is not known by oneself, is not good. Because the impression is like conveying something without knowledge.

Just observing and learning from experienced members of the forum is a way to learn fast, learning from experienced members will  give you good reputation in the forum. When beginners claim to know too well they end up making mistakes that are very regrettable,  beginners just need to learn as to reduce the rate of mistakes they will encounter. Beginners must learn and gain good knowledge which they can give out to other members of the forum, it is reasonable to share something well known than to give out something with no meaning.

[topbitcoin]

A high Rank account does not guarantee more knowledge than an account that has two activities, someone who controls a Legendary account with 1000 Airdrop merit is not necessarily better than a Newbie who just joined the forum. Advice can come from anyone, as long as the advice has an educational nature and is useful for other members I think it can be justified even if the one giving advice is an account that has two activities.
A person's knowledge cannot be measured by account ratings, perhaps they already had a lot of knowledge before finding their way to forums. As long as it doesn't violate the forum rules and doesn't harm other members, newbies may advise people in the forum.

That's right, because we do not know who is behind the account and maybe he is quite broad -minded in his field, ranking does not have to be a concern, but ranking only as a measure that he is valued in contributing with forums, knowledge can come from anywhere , like the falling apples, as well as a newbe in this forum, you have the right to give advice on users who have a higher rank than it, there is no rules that the newbie cannot do that, but he only needs to learn From what he doesn't know like the forum rules for example.

I as a newbie here feel the OP's suggestion is true. Others have better experience and knowledge than I do. And I must continue to learn and correct my mistakes. Teaching something to others about something that is not known by oneself, is not good. Because the impression is like conveying something without knowledge.

Just observing and learning from experienced members of the forum is a way to learn fast, learning from experienced members will  give you good reputation in the forum. When beginners claim to know too well they end up making mistakes that are very regrettable,  beginners just need to learn as to reduce the rate of mistakes they will encounter. Beginners must learn and gain good knowledge which they can give out to other members of the forum, it is reasonable to share something well known than to give out something with no meaning.

It might be an alternative learning that knows the forum faster, but even though he is only a newbie, as I say that we don't know who is behind the account, maybe he has a lot of experience in his field, even though the crypto industry does not really understand, while he is Having a logical and strong argument in other fields of discussion that he has experience and knowledge, he deserves to maintain it, but if he does not really understand, I think observing and learning how people who have a higher rank than him are the right decisions, rather than talking Instead of what he has no understanding of what he is talking about.

[mirakal]

Newbies should never jump teaching their co-newbies when in reality, they also need to be taught at first. Instead, they should focus on acquiring sufficient knowledge about cryptocurrency and how it’s market moves. In the end, newbies will never be forever newbies. As they increase their knowledge and skills, they also level up with their position. Maybe that could be the best time to teach, as long as they have those valuable things to share to those who are interested to learn.

[Obari]

How can you teach what you don't know?
I also got a point where you mentioned that some of the newbies aren't new to crypto but that doesn't mean that they have more edge over some reputable members of the forum and I believe  some newbies also have more cryptocurrency knowledge  than some legendary members on here but the truth be told that people on here have no value for newbie accounts because they believe the newbie account has nothing to lose and people wouldn't  want to to deal with such a person.

I stand with you @Giftedman and I think people especially  newbies to try to grow their accounts and status on the forum before want to Introduce what so ever to the community.

[DYING_S0UL]

I get the point "learn before you try to teach others". That's why I have been observing many threads many members many topic posts etc for many days. But I still fear I might make  mistakes or someone may criticize me. That's why I don't have any activities or merits in my account. But observing won't even get me anywhere. I need real time performance right? So what should I do now. It would be much help if anyone guided me so that one day I may also contribute to this community.

I am in no position to advice anyone. But I need to have some experience or base knowledge to be able to do that.

[Dzwaafu11]

But I still fear I might make  mistakes or someone may criticize me. That's why I don't have any activities or merits in my account.

Yes, your observation is accurate, but all you need to do is read each and every one of this forum's rules and regulations and keep your attention on the reason you came here in the first place, which is to learn about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. This does not preclude you from participating on the forum as a novice, though. I think you could contribute valuable knowledge, even if it's unrelated to the forum, and perhaps you've been the victim of some scam attempts. You can also bring something similar, and your post will be taken into consideration; nobody will judge the action or its qualities. Don't stress over that. They will appear eventually; you are only beginning.

I need real time performance right? So what should I do now.

Yes, your performance is what will provide you the privileges and participation you believe you lack, thus it will be better if you put in more effort and educate yourself on the forum and other things that must be done there in order to contribute and perform effectively here.

But observing won't even get me anywhere.

Your best chance of succeeding on the forum is to pay attention to what the senior members have contributed. You will be able to contribute when you read what other senior members have said on the forum. You will gain more experience thanks to what they say than you.

[CarnagexD]

Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:

This is a harsh reality and too hard to swallow. I feel attacked though haha. It made me feel like I'm still an amateur or a mere beginner who has lots of things to learn. Need more experience. I know I can do better. Do more research, interact more, and participate as much as I can.

[Taskford]

I get the point "learn before you try to teach others". That's why I have been observing many threads many members many topic posts etc for many days. But I still fear I might make  mistakes or someone may criticize me. That's why I don't have any activities or merits in my account. But observing won't even get me anywhere. I need real time performance right? So what should I do now. It would be much help if anyone guided me so that one day I may also contribute to this community.

I am in no position to advice anyone. But I need to have some experience or base knowledge to be able to do that.

But the problem with other they really think that their learnings is enough and they can't teach newbies just like that. They really need to focus on theirselves since if they post and try to educate newbies while they are still belong to that category then people might just expect that they do this stint just because they want to earn a merit. Merit is the reason why newbies became instant expert since they try to educate their fellow newbies and hope that their thread created will get a merit in return.

[Razmirraz]

The main motive that drives them in trying to educate other members is just to get attention or maybe there is another reason behind that motive. It seems a bit strange, someone who is still in the process of learning tries to teach other people, but this incident happens very often even though what is conveyed cannot be disputed. Before posting anything that educates others, a Newbie who is just finding his way to forums needs to educate himself how to adapt to forums.

[Lady_Versatilebae]

The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.

I totally agree with you OP, I see no reason why a newbie can be teaching people that has been in the system for long and you just came in and starting teaching everyone about cryptocurrency, I'm not disputing the fact that most newbies does not have ideas about cryptocurrency but there are somethings that are expected of you as a newbie to do such as learning how forum works and following the higher Rank to be knowledgeable instead of lecturing, for me I'm here to learn, to know how the forum works and learn from people that knows more better.

[alastantiger]

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

Very true.
Whether you have been on other forums or not, once you sign up on this forum for the first time and the rank reads newbie, then you are certainly a newbie. However, if your rank reads newbie on the forum but you have expert knowledge on cryptocurrencies and bitcoin, you should be free and have the freedom to share it with the community. And we can tell a newbie on the forum who is a newbie to bitcoin from a newbie on the forum who has expert knowledge on bitcoin. How? Look at the boards they post in, their posting pattern, you'll easily notice.

[KingsDen]

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

Very true.
Whether you have been on other forums or not, once you sign up on this forum for the first time and the rank reads newbie, then you are certainly a newbie. However, if your rank reads newbie on the forum but you have expert knowledge on cryptocurrencies and bitcoin, you should be free and have the freedom to share it with the community. And we can tell a newbie on the forum who is a newbie to bitcoin from a newbie on the forum who has expert knowledge on bitcoin. How? Look at the boards they post in, their posting pattern, you'll easily notice.

I so much understand what Op meant and he is correct about that. But then I do not want anyone to feel threatened because a newbie is contributing or trying to contribute to the forum. Some times the ranks doesn't matter, where the rank matters so much is during trading because it is very risky to trade with a newbie.

But when it comes to sharing of knowledge, I do not really care where it is coming from. What we need to confirm is the validity and authenticity of the information being passed. If it is correct and acceptable, it is fine even if it comes from a newbie. Where I always have problems is when a newbie without knowledge and experience begins to teach nonsense in the forum.

[qwertyup23]

Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time

While I do understand that majority of these newbies want to earn merits, I do think that they are doing it on the wrong direction.

I agree with what OP posted- you have to earn your acknowledgement before you start giving advice to others. In this forum, while it is generally helpful to guide others in this kind of advice, you must first equip yourself with all the knowledge and information before sharing it to others.

Unfortunately, I have also witnessed several instances where newbies would attempt to share some advice, only to find out that there is a language barrier and they were not able to convey their messages clearly (wrong grammars, etc.). I just hope that from this post, newbies would first accept to learn before they share any guides to others.

[Gadei Blang Gapu]

While I do understand that majority of these newbies want to earn merits, I do think that they are doing it on the wrong direction.

I agree with what OP posted- you have to earn your acknowledgement before you start giving advice to others. In this forum, while it is generally helpful to guide others in this kind of advice, you must first equip yourself with all the knowledge and information before sharing it to others.

Unfortunately, I have also witnessed several instances where newbies would attempt to share some advice, only to find out that there is a language barrier and they were not able to convey their messages clearly (wrong grammars, etc.). I just hope that from this post, newbies would first accept to learn before they share any guides to others.

Sorry in advance, allow me to convey my opinion @qwertyup23. I don't think it justifies everything. sometimes there are also suggestions from beginners who, although they seem new to this forum, have been in the world of crypto trading for a long time and it is possible that they also have the ability/capacity to write and answer a question properly, correctly and relevantly.