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MY REVIEW ON MIXIN SAFE

FirstI would like to clear that although at first I was very skeptical the service because of the much requirement of apps needed to actually activate or use the service but after successful using I think the service is kinda cool though.

So firstly,
I downloaded the mixing messenger app from playstore and that process was smooth and also the mornin key app but for some peculiar reason the mornin key app for android seems to be having issue when trying to open up the on my android device.


so I switch to using an iOS for the both apps instead of the andriod.

Mixin messenger

I registered with one of my less active line and the otp verification code was actually sent very fast although thought it would take my time but didn't but I only had to copy it manually and paste it but still all good because most apps failed to verify automatically.

Setting my pin
The process was all good except for the fact that I had to make an input confirmation of exact same for up to four times before confirmation which is good I suppose for security purpose but I feel the normal two times confirmation would have worked fine too.

Adding emergency contact

Setting up the emergency contact was kind of a fuzz for me cause I actually and literally have to wait for the user am trying to add to be online so he can send the verification code for me to confirm his add up. Apart from the  process was all good.

Other features
I think the messenger app has some nice features added to it like the group chat where you can interact with some of your contacts just like every other message apps.

Mixin safe
First the log in process was kinda stressful as I needed two device to successfully log in as one needs to scan the other from the messenger app in other to log in although the scanning was smooth and fast so I logged in successfully.

after logging in the website

it looked very simple although too plain for my liking and the annoying red sticker which that serve as a warning should Atleast disappear after staying in website for sometime Atleast for the user would  have grasped the message trying to pass.

Creating a safe
This process would have been very complicated if actually there was no official guildline to it but on still I followed the process showed to create the safe.

At first it prompted a  name section and network type of which I just used my BTT username for ease and bitcoin for the network.

* next was the owner control key setup which is one of the 2-3 multisig wallet purposes. I selected mornin key as my private key control and since I already had the app installed and activated  it was just to scan the QR code on the mixin safe site of which I did and it went smoothly and my key was secure and safe in the app with the specific name I  used in the mixin safe website.

* next was the member key set up which require me to add up a member and it didn't take since I have someone here from the community who is close to me and we have already backed up as emergency contact so his contact just popped up when I clicked the +add button in the mixin safe site and I added him up and selected threshold (1) since its part of minimum requirement and don't have much contacts so two person confirming the transaction would be OK for me.

* next was the summary which require me to choose a plan although I was worried for the reason for me to actually pay  to upgrade and create more safe so I choose the 2$ plan since its a still testing phase.

 purchase of plan

The process was very fast and smooth.
I funded the messenger app through my wallet and in no time got notified of the deposit.
Then I went back and choose the 2$ plan in which I made successful payment through the mixin pay wallet option through crypto
After successful payment went back to my mixin pay and activated safe through mornin key scan which at first showed error but finally got it running.

Transaction on mixin safe

First I had to deposit some funds to try out mixin safe wallet so I choose the receive deposit option in which I funded through my binance exchange app and it went smoothly as I receive the funds quickly.

then
The send transaction where I had to selected 2 member verification which is me(mornin key signiture) and the  member to confirm the transaction before it went through.
I think I would try out more member later as part of verification but for this beta version, I think one member confirmation is okay.

*The security on this wallet is smashing as the member(s) need to verified before your transaction can actually go through, so it would be very hard to be hacked of your funds.
Just superb

Support chat on mixin safe


I thought I should try out the support chat on the mixin safe website to see how reliable it is and it was very OK by me as I got attended to by the customer chat representative and all my question I asked was satisfactorily answered. So the support chat feature is very OK and reliable.

Conclusion
*The overall experience was smooth although a short video on the whole process would be very helpful, like a tutorial video to ease some stress

* the payment is very fast and notification in the messenger app is also superb, as I got every notification very quickly concerning transaction on my mixin safe wallet.

Can't wait for you guys to upgrade more the beta version so one can properly use the wallet.

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Last edit: July 22, 2023, 06:58:49 PM by bitmover
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<REVIEW>

security alert:There is a similar website, which the team should consider buying:
safe.mixing.zone/

This domain is owned by another company, and I mistakenly put it in my web browser.

Suggestion: put all your products in the same domain and redirect them. Multiple domains is confused for the user. I am always worried when I move to another domain, specially within the same company/service
Currently domains that i noticed mixin team has:
https://safe.mixin.zone/
https://mixin.one/
https://messenger.mixin.one/
https://mornin.one/

Get Started
The website has a nice design, however there are some contradictory information in it.

In the Get Started page (https://safe.mixin.zone/start) the only option for Owner Wallet is Morning Key.
However, in the article (https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-ledger-to-create-mixin-safe-2ppnls/) it says I can use ledger or some other wallet (which is not true yet).



This should be fixed and all information should be as clear as possible, as this just the first step of the process and (in my opinion) this makes me feel a little insecure if am I doing something wrong or not.

Morning Key
At first I thought Morning Key was part of the Mixin Safe suite.

As there is a  ~1USD fee (converting from BRL to USD) in Play Store, I decided to download the APK from the website for free.

After a successful free APK download from  the website, I just created an account and set up the wallet. The app is very confusing .

Downloading Messenger
Security alert: Asking for personal information (phone number).
This is a big security and privacy risk IMO.
Personal information can be hacked or leaked, we all have seen before.

Why does mixing want to know who am I and who my friends are? This is very invasive, and it is irrelevant for the transaction we want to make (securing bitcoin).
Please, add other methods, such as e-mail verification.

E-mail is much more private and better suited for internet needs. For example, I have an e-mail for anything related to the forum, other related to personal finances, other for personal life, etc... But I have only one phone number.

Setting Emergency Contact

The image displayed here is outdated, the UI of messenger is slightly different now. Other than that, the process was very easy and smooth.


outdated UI image (at least in Android) - https://safe.mixin.zone/start

Mixin Safe

Now things get confused. Messenger app never mentions Safe anywhere. I needed to go to https://safe.mixin.zone/login to find the QRCode which creates the safe.
The APP should be more clear imo. Something like "Create New Safe -> Scan QR Code"

After that, mixin messenger says my phone number and other data will be shared (I really preferred that this was an e-mail)

2 USD Payment
Many cryptocurrency payment methods available, which is amazing.

I transferred some TRX to get a fast and cheap confirmation, and so it was.

Interesting point: I overpaid some dust (about 0,1 TRX), and there is a way to ask for a "Refund" (https://help.mixpay.me/en/articles/7063792-how-to-get-a-refund).
The value was very small, but the process was very fast and straight foward.

I just added the BOT inside the Messenger and after chatting with the MixPay Bot I was able to recover the dust. I got the value back in just a few seconds.


bug when using morning key to create safe

I got the following message when approving the safe.
The safe asked for:

"Owner Approval
Use Mornin Key to scan the QR code on the below and sign"



"Error (10002): The request data has invalid field"




I failed to create the wallet. So I decided to get in touch with the support team. I told them about the issue, and they fixed it right away:


Transactions

It was not easy to find the Deposit button. I missed a button "Receive/Deposit" here:


It was not easy to confirm the transaction with both users , I managed to do so, but I am an experienced bitcoin user. But I think an average user will just give up .... not easy.



Suggestions:

I missed more explanations in Mixin Messenger and Morning Key.

Both Apps are  lacks information about what they do.
Morning Key specially. I was trying to generate a receiving address there, impossible... Then I discovered I had to click in Tranasctions inside Mixin Safe to generate an address there. Not intuitive.

I spend about 3 hours trying to figure everything out. It was not fast, and I believe the process could be more straight foward.

I liked how everything worked in the end, but the process was very slow.

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My Mixin Safe Review

To create a mixin safe I had several options to choose from(Mornin key, Ledger Hardware wallet,  Bitcoin Core) and I started with Mornin key because this is a mobile based app which  can be downloaded from the playstore which I thought was convenient for me as I was on mobile ,but unfortunately this is a paying app which forced me to try other available options to see if anyone out there can get started without paying a dime.

 

Second option was to use a ledger hardware wallet but unfortunately my little gadget isnt in yet so had to pass on this option..but in the future might love to test this out if time allows.

Third option was to use Bitcoin Core wallet which was the most popular methods according to Mixin Safe support page at the time of writing this , and looking at the tutorial on the mixin safe walkthrough page, the process seemed to have a lot of typing/coding which I was really not up for as I was on mobile and went with the first option.

So apparently to get Mornin key downloaded on your device for android users like me, you have to pay a small token of 0.99 dollars which is no biggie as we are covered thanx to Mixin Smiley

But another option to download the app is to follow the link shared on their support page to get apk downloaded for free , but to support the project download app from the playstore..otherwise download apk from here ==》 (https://newbie.zeromesh.net/mornin-18.apk)

Steps to setup Wallet with Mornin key



1.Prepare Owner Wallet
First step simply requires you to have the Mornin key manager downloaded on your device,  which is also available only on iOS and Android for now.

2.Prepare Members Wallet

This step involves inviting friends and family to the mixin Messenger wallet , which I downloaded to interact with the the mixin ecosystem.


3.Set Mixin Messenger PIN
Think of this as an authentication key to proceed, and btw this was one fun thing I did on the mixin ecosystem...having to enter pin like 4 times was oddly mind blowing and I love different Cool


4.Add Mixin Messenger Contacts
-Think of these as contacts you will be interacting, you can chat with via Mixin Messenger app, can also use these contacts as your multisig members or emergency contacts, the possibilities are endless.


5.Set Emergency Contact
For this step I just added a special someone as the emergency contact because you can't be too careful.

6.Sign in Mixin Safe
-If you get this far, you are ready to create your first safe.

CREATING A SAFE

To create a safe, this is done in 3 easy steps
  • Give the safe a name and pick the blockchain or coin available from the drop-down menu and at the time of writing this, this is limited to bitcoin & litecoin for now
  • Set Owner and add members
  • Lastly Approve!

Btw, before anything its advisable to upgrade your plan to enjoy the perks that come with this such as getting the Recovery service, X number of members to be added depending on plan, create X number of Safes depending on plan etc and I paid for a plan before creating a safe, though the process is Safe first then pay for plan last Cool


Personally, I choose to go with the standard plan as the package suits my needs and most should afford this option....I mean its $2  Roll Eyes
Did I also mention that mixin Safe wallet makes it easy for anyone that wants to upgrade with their multicoin support, see image below for coins available and let those high transaction fees not stop you.


After making my subscription this is what I saw on my dashboard, and I can still upgrade to other plans if I wanted to have the extra perks.


To continue the Safe creation, I added an extra member before the completion of the mixin safe, as this is a prerequisite and after this process was ready to see how multisig works as safe creation was succesfully done.

PUTTING MIXIN MULTISIG TO THE TEST

For this test, I have 2 members set up for the multisig process, which is myself and my crypto buddy as the other member, and also set it to a 2 out of 2 threshold for this test as can be seen by the image below. With kind of setup, this implies that should someone have unauthorized access to the wallet and I have funds stored in the safe, the user will not transfer coins out unless they have the other member key to complete the required threshold!


Next step was me acting as the owner and sending out some crypto out to see how much of the extra security multisig has when using mixin.
And as can be seen from the image below, coins could not be sent out without the approval of the owner(me) and other member(s).


Upon hitting the send coins, approval was required and this is what is expected to be seen by both parties.
-Image on the left shows what to expect to see on your dashboard after other member approves
-Image on the right shows a nice tidy interface of what to expect after all required members approve the transaction.


After both approvals were done, within 3 to 10 seconds a transaction hash is given where I was able to track my transaction, and tx confirmed within the next block which was impressive thought they would apply small fees to our transactions Grin


Just a few questions for the devs:
  • Why is creating a Mixin safe only available on desktop and not the mobile app??
  • Is an in-app coin exchanger possible for the sake of convenience
  • The walkthroughs on the website aren't user friendly based on my experience, is having some kind of mini videos possible to make the various processes easier?
  • Is it possible to have card payments added to mixin to have users easily upgrade their subscriptions as not everyone could be familiar with cryptocurrencies
  • Lastly this is 50/50, when using mixin on mobile, funds received in safe never get to show as wallet balance in spite of having a positive balance...how does this one work?

***Edit***

Something i discovered yesterday, when you log into Mixin Safe via the web platform (https://safe.mixin.zone), I have noticed that mixin doesn't log you out automatically even after several hours of you not being near you PC. For a users security is this not suppose to work in such a way, that after X minutes it should log you out automatically or be asking you to sign In  with Mornin key 🔑 or something...better yet a sign out period can be included in settings or something, my 2cents.
Thanks @logfiles for the advice  Cool









 
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My Mixin Safe Review/Experince


mixin messenger signup

The registration process was quick and simple, although I would recommend using an email address because they are easy to obtain. I joined up with my phone number and received a verification code without any difficulty. Except for the recommendation I provided above, the mixin messenger signup works fine.



Mixin messenger features

a. Mixin UI/UX

I like how each button is situated; it's extremely simple and traditional. The dark colour scheme is not all that horrible, but I prefer my messenger app in a light colour; I noted that such a colour option was not available; it would be wonderful to have such an option where a user could choose the colour they want. (Most people are colorblind, and persons with abinonism are unable to make use of this messenger as it is)


b. Chat on Messenger.

The mixin messenger is comparable to WhatsApp; I enjoy everything about it and have been using it to communicate with some of my friends; it's in decent shape except for a few features that are missing, such as video calls, on/off read receipt, and online status.


c. Mixin wallet.

I like the multicoins wallet, it was something that drew my attention at first, and this is one of the best features I found interesting, as well as the fact that I can withdraw coin and send to my contact in a matter of seconds without charge (I deposited USDT and sent to my contact with no charges). I have not yet tested the Bitcoin option. But I'll do it. I've already introduced this messenger to my friends, but the only feature missing from the Mixin wallet is the 'BUY BITCOIN' option. This is the option I want to also see.

My experience with the Mixin messenger was good but there are few things left to make it stand out.



My experience with mixin safes.


After my experience, I went on to create the mixin safes and, like everyone else, I used the mornin key option. I downloaded the free APK version because I was asked to pay a token before downloading it on playstore, and because I am someone who is very careful with my credit card information, I decided to use the untrusted APK instead, which was a little risky, but I did it anyway.

I installed the mornin key, created my account, and then proceeded to create my Bitcoin safe with one team member.

Selected Mornin key as my owner private key, scanned the barcode, and paid for the $2 upgrade plan because I just needed to build one safe for myself. I chose the mixin wallet USDT payment option because it was the quickest and it was confirmed in seconds.

I had no trouble creating this procedure, although it was challenging at first and required some time to get used to.



Recommendations> A brief video tutorial would be helpful, as the article was not very good.




My mixin safe deposit and customer support expereince

 I deposited 0.00067173 BTC to my safes, but my coin was not credited to my safes even after 6 confirmations, so I decided to contact customer service, and I found something very interesting on the chat, I was asked to provide my email address, which I did, and while I was waiting for my turn to be attended to, a game appeared on the chat to keep me entertained. This was a lot of fun and an excellent way to pass the time. Lol

I chatted with customer support, and they were quite professional, handling my request in a very kind and professional manner.







My mixin safe withdrawal  and multisig experience

I got my deposit sorted out and wanted to experiment with the withdrawal option, however this was another useless navigation step that took a few minutes to complete. Is it possible to just have the withdrawal button on the dashboard? Is it necessary to start a new transaction in order to make a withdrawal? This procedure seemed needless to me, but I went forward with it nonetheless. The transfer fees are fixed for all withdrawals; they were a little high but not excessively so I entered my information and clicked withdraw before proceeding to test the members approval page; because I only added one member, I went through the mixin messenger approval, Mornin key approval, and safes approval processes, and the withdrawal was completed without incident.



Process rating 8/10.




Recommendation/suggestions


Implement the colour mixin messenger option (dark and light).
Implement video calls, read on/off options, and online status options.
Add a 'BUY COIN' option to the mixin wallet, along with CashApp and Google Pay.
The article lacked a video lesson on how to set up the safes.
Add a withdrawal button to the dashboard of the safes.
Add an email signup option.

Remark. You're on the right track; just a few more features and everything will be ready to go.

I'm available for future review if you ever needed one. Gracies  Cool

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I used Mixin Messenger app and Mixin safe browser for the review. I downloaded the Mixin messenger app to my phone via the app store and needed the phone number for registration. https://mixin.one/messenger https://safe.mixin.zone

I registered with my phone number and then created a 6-digit pin for application security. Make sure to note down the PIN you created and it will be required for wallet, transfer, mixin safe connection and phone number change. After the registration was completed, i was greeted with a welcome message by the robot in the chat section.

I can say that the end-to-end encryption of the messages with the Signal protocol relieved me in terms of security. One of my favorite features is to have a decentralized wallet within the application. You can easily transfer bitcoin and crypto money between your contacts in the application with this wallet. You can perform your transactions after logging in with a pin to the wallet, which has a very simple interface. Moreover, there is no commission fee and it is very fast. You can sync your phone's contacts to the application in the chat section, or you can add a contact with a username or ID number. It is important for the application to have a simple and easy interface in terms of usage and reaching the masses. Having simple and fast solutions means that application traffic is increasing day by day. An exciting development for first time users.

You can use the mixin messenger application to register with the Mixin safe browser. By pressing the register part, you can scan the QR code that appears with the code reader camera in the application and log in to mixin safe. This is pretty simple and fast.

If I summarize the positive aspects, you can quickly and easily transfer crypto money to your friends within the application, message with end-to-end encryption and hold group meetings. I think it's been an excellent messaging and meeting app for the crypto community. Managing all crypto assets with a single PIN is simple. My favorite security feature is the creation of an emergency contact and increased multi-wallet asset security. Keeping keys for many years can be challenging. For security reasons, you can easily recover your lost key with Mixin Safe. Another one of my favorite features. Another feature is that if your computer is hijacked by an unknown person, you can end the desktop session from the phone application.


We tried Mixin Messenger with my dear friend @Gencecikmen from the forum. (My Mixin ID: 41175171)




We made a friend request with the ID code, and i also sent bitcoins to him from the messaging section and he sent me bitcoins in the same way. It was a pleasure that everything was practical. The downside would be to increase the key generation options for Mixin Safe. I logged into the App Store to use Mornin Key but there was almost no feedback on Mornin Key. I sent btc to my mixin messenger wallet with Electrum, but when i synchronized mixin safe and mixin messenger, the balance part appeared in the browser as zero. When i wrote about my problem from the support section, i got the answer i was looking for.


I need to use Mornin key, Ledger and Bitcoincore for Mixin safe. There should be more options. The language option for Mixin Messenger needs to be increased. Apart from all these, it is an application that i will definitely use for a long time.

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Mixin Safe Review

Mixin Messanger

-I download Mixin Messanger on the play store via the link provided on the sign page of https://safe.mixin.zone. This is very helpful to ensure that we are downloading the correct app and to avoid fake apps. The mixin messenger is very smooth to download and install. I create my account easily like the typical crypto wallet and the UI is very easy to understand as a first-time user of this app.

-I really like the emergency contact feature of this messenger app because my account can be recover using the emergency contact which means my wife can retrieve my funds if ever something happened to me through his mobile number.

I sign in on https://safe.mixin.zone via scanning the QR code on my desktop browser and it logins very quickly as soon as I scan my sign-in QR code.

Mixin Safe

-I head over to the safe to create my safe for my account but I encounter an error "Request failed with status 500" which I reported immediately to the support for a quick fix.



-The support gave me an estimated time to fix this error and they informed me via email & chat right after the error is fixed. Customer support is very quick to address issues!



-After the support fixed the error, I continue the next step to create a safe which is by creating an owner wallet. I choose Mornin Key so that I can try this app for the first time. The app requires payment before you can install and I pay 1$ for downloading the app.
After I pay and install the morning key app, I create my account and scan the QR code on mixin.safe page to sign-in as owner wallet of the safe I'm creating. Same to the Mixin messenger scan feature, Mornin key scan is very quick while the website is very responsive on scan login.

-Next is setting up the members for the safe, I use my own Mixin messenger to be a member and choose 1 threshold. My mixin messenger is a default member since I use it to sign-in on the website so this step is very easy to complete.

-On the summary tab, It requires me to upgrade the plan before I can create a safe, I purchased a standard plan which is 2$ per year and pay using my mixin messenger. Everything went smoothly because I can pay by scanning the QR code with my mixin messenger. This QR code scan method is very helpful to make every process quick and safe from clipboard malware. I finish creating my Safe and activate it via morning key app by scanning the QR code on the summary page.



-I use my remaining balance on my Mixin messenger to deposit to my safe and I'm surprised that the transaction for Bitcoin is a flat rate of 0.00047BTC which is a bit high fee for a wallet. My deposit amount which is 18$ after the fee is quickly credited to my safe balance right after I initiate send button on my mixin messenger.


Mixin Safe Withdrawal
-I withdraw my funds by approving with my mixin messenger and mornin key that verifies that I can't withdraw without those owner & member approval to make this safe really safe for storage via multiple parties as member and owner. I'm surprised too that the withdrawal process doesn't require any transaction fee which justifies why mixin messenger bitcoin transaction fee is high.



Conclusion:
Mixin safe is very easy to use and safe at the same time since it has multiple parties involved to access the safe and at the same time the threshold number can be modified during the setup so that the safe can be accessed even with one member is missing or become rouge. The support is very helpful and friendly in dealing with my concerns since I encounter multiple errors along the way which they fixed immediately. I hope they continue this level of service and wishing the success of Mixin project!



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Download and Installation of Mornin Keys

I tried to download the Mornin Key application from the Google store but I discovered that I had to buy the application. I used a fiat payment option and bought it with my local currency. I made the payments downloaded and installed but it didn’t function. I made some inquiries and I discovered that it will not function in a 2gig Ram phone. I had to get a 6gig ram phone to carry out the task. Using my new phone, it went smoothly. After the download and installation, I was asked to use a 6-digit password to secure it and I copied my mnemonic phrase and backing them up.

Download and Installation of Mixin Messenger

I downloaded the Mixin Messenger for Google Store and it was free. They asked for my phone number and send a pin code to it that helped in activating the messenger. The code came in seconds and I was pleased with it. I also had to create six-pin passwords for the messenger for safety and they asked me to put the pin four times. The messenger had a social media outlook combined with that of a wallet. It claimed that transactions were free and was a decentralized wallet. It has options to make both personal and group calls. It also has an option for Maxim messenger desktop and an option to invite friends. Friends can be included by name, phone number or Maxin ID.

Mixin Messenger Security

For security, we have an emergency contact. To make someone your emergency contact you need to add the person to your contact. I added my close relative and she had to authorize it by adding me as a contact and approved it. Everything was good and fine. It is also important to note that there is an option to change your emergency number but it should be handled carefully. If there is an error in the code, you will have to wait for 24 hours to carry out the same function. There is an option for authorisation and logs to track the activities and transactions on the messenger.



Creation and signing in Mixin Safe

The next stage is to create your safe. This was where I had my biggest challenge because was trying to link my Messenger to the safe using code found here: https://safe.mixin.zone/start , instead of the code found here: https://safe.mixin.zone/login . And I had to spend so much time until I had to go through the get started procedures which took me to the login page where I saw the correct Mixin Safe scanning code. Immediately I used the correct code my save was activated and a Mixin safe service appeared in my Messenger I was also asked to input my password and Mixin service and Safe service became a notification bank or mailbox in the Messenger wallet. It will be nice if the website is made less complicated because an easy task can be hectic if the process is complex.
 
     

Mixin Safe setup

Now I could have access to the online mixin safe. I followed the instruction and set Mornin keys as my preferred wallet and filed other information. And I had to link my Mornin Keys with my Mixin Safe account through a QR code and I approved the connections Mornin key applications. The next step. was to set up how many people will control the Maxin safe. The option from two to five and I selected two people options because I wanted only me and my relative to control it. It went smoothly because I had readily added the relative as my emergency contact. But for me to complete this process I was instructed to upgrade my plan. And there were many packages but I chose the cheapest and paid $2 in Bitcoin.

   

Upgrading Mixin Safe

So, I had to create a transaction input the details and approved. I was transferred to the website mixpay.me to make the payment. This is another area I am not comfortable with the registration process. They are always redirecting to other websites. Maybe it is for security reasons, I cannot tell. I had different payment options including fiat and cryptocurrencies. But I paid with Bitcoin. I was confirmed in a few seconds and my package was upgraded. So, any member of my group could approve transactions. The transaction was timed and I thought many transactions will time out when the Mempool is jam-packed. You will also use your Mornin Key to sign in using the QR provided.

     

Depositing in my Mixin Safe

I tried to deposit some funds into my Mixin Safe. I had to create a new transaction but it was less hectic because I had already activated my account. I was not asked for any QR code scanning I just inputted the amount which is a minimum of 0.0001 and copied my wallet address. I authorized the transaction from my wallet and within a few minutes my Mixin safe account was credited. And I got an instant notification in my mini safe service of the transaction. And I was notified to go to my Mixin Safe dashboard to view the detail and the details of the transactions were clearly documented there.

 

Withdrawing from my Mixin Safe

I wanted to try the deposit and see how effective it was and confirm if it was really free. To withdraw my funds, I had to still create a new transaction, and choose my preferred currency, the amount, and the address. The minimum deposit is the same as the minimum deposit. The transaction was approved but I am yet to see the funds in my wallet. I was debited but the transaction is still pending now and I have not seen the fund in my wallet.

Customer Service

The customer care was swift, I suspect it was an artificial intelligence or a chatbox. I asked for assistance when I was having issues with my setup but they immediately asked for my email. I didn't go further with my enquires because I had managed to sort it out. But I observed that the Maxin team customer service in the messenger is not active, the message I send there has not received any response. But I was not comfortable with the constant asking for personal information.


Strength of Mixin Safe system

1.   Highly secured because it has levels of authorizations before approval.
2.   A worthy platform to plan for future uncertainties
3.   It has an all-in-one package that can protect one from attack. It has a social and formal function
4.   It facilitates the share of ideas because of its capacity to build a private community

Weakness of Mixin Safe System

1.   Setting up is complicated
2.   Invade privacy by asking for personal details.
3.   In case of an emergency and one approver is not accessible, there might be difficulty to access funds.

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My Review

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After clicking the yellow inked link to the user's guide, I was directed to installing the mixing message app and since I use an Android phone, I ofcourse downloaded the windows version of mixin messenger. The download process was a usual one and it went smooth and fast and I think the data consumption is fine.

Registration
The registration was a hassle free one and it was very easy to register,and it also seems similar to most of the registrations that required phone number for verification.
I had to use my personal phone number for the registration and the verification code came also in time,and I feel ok with the entire process as it wasn't too stressful as I thought it would be.

Pin
This is actually the first time I'm enrolling in a platform that requires me to imput my pin about four times,and I think the security is fine,and with this, anyone should not easily forget their pin even without writing it down somewhere.

Mixin Wallet
I also noticed that there are a lot of popular cryptocurrencies and tokens including BTC and the rest,
Sending and receiving was as easy as using trust wallet

Contact
While waiting for the BTC sent to be confirmed in my mixin wallet,I took the pleasure to stuff around and since this is still a new service,I had no contact with the account.

Adding Contact
It took me some good time to realize that I have to use a different device to be able to do this so I used a desktop to create another account with my mother's number and was able to add the new  account created through the name.

Profile
The profile menu looks nice and simple and you can also wear any Avatar and even use your person picture as a profile picture and you can also edit the name in the profile .

Chats
After adding the contacts,I also noticed that one can chart and communicate through writings,pictures and even videos,and the chatting pattern wasn't different from that of watsapp and very similar to that of telegram,but it seems adding some reactions to the chat would make it look more interesting.

There was an option for group chat but to be frank, I didn't try it out because adding contacts wasn't a nice one for me

Desktop version
It is also possible to use mixin on desktop and it was easy and very convenient to do so on a desktop.

Transaction
Receiving bitcoin to my wallet was as easy as receiving it with any other wallet and sending money between each mixin member account was very easy as it can easily be done through contacts and the minimum was about $2 and transactions between each mixin account is free.

Mixin safe
Well it wasn't an easy one for me to use the mixin safe as I wasn't having a desktop but after a long while I figured out that I have to switch my phone to the desktop mode from my chrome browser and everything went smoothly.

It was a very easy process signing in the mixin safe as it only requires scanning a QR code


And this was how it looks from my phone, don't know if it looks same with others.

I also saw the option to upgrade to enable all features of the service and fine enough it comes in badges which I selected that of the $2 plan and it was swift.


In summary, the mixin messenger was a very interesting one and I enjoyed the whole thing as it wasn't really different from what I know but I think you should also consider adding the reaction feature on chats because I enjoy using it and it makes it even more expressive.

The mixin messenger makes it possible to chat and send Cryptos to our contacts directly without fees and I will prefer to use mixin safe for this singular option.



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MY REVIEW

Considering the recommended ways to set up owners wallet in the mixin safe platform, I found the use of Mornin key easier and affordable for me, and therefore I used Mornin key apk to set my mixin safe wallet.

Installation of Mornin key and Mixin messenger.

While trying to use my app store to download the Mornin Key application, a fee was required before downloading the application. Going back to the guide provided for the review on the review page, I found another means of getting the application for free using the TestFlight app. I downloaded the TestFlight app through the link provided in the guide, and installation of the Mornin Key app went smoothly.

The Mixin Messenger application was successfully downloaded without any issue through the official link provided in the guide.

Sign Up and preparation of owners wallet.

Mornin Key signup
After successfully downloading the Mornin Key application, I signed up by creating my own wallet. A six-digit code was requested to be set for security and data protection, and a seed phrase was given for future wallet claims. I set the pin, wrote down my seed phrase in a safe place for my wallet backup, and then provided the seed phrase for wallet approval.

Mixin Messenger signup
After successfully downloading the Messenger application from the app store, I signed up using my phone number; a verification code was sent to the number immediately, and after typing in the four-digit numbers, the messenger requested that I set a six-digit code. After I did that, that was all; then a chat bot (Team Mixin) sent me a welcome message and some guidelines.


Getting started on Mixin safe/ setting Owner Wallet
After setting my Mornin key wallet and the Mixin messenger, the Mixin safe website requested me to scan a QR code with my Mornin key

After scanning the QR code, I successfully logged in, which is a very good step for the Mixin service. I further created a Mixin safe account using the Bitcoin Network. There is a request to scan a QR code to prove my ownership. I opened my Mornin key, scanned the code, and a Bitcoin wallet address was generated for my safe account for my Bitcoin deposit. Likely, the address showed up in my Mornin key wallet.


Payment of 2 USDT to upgrade to standard plan
To upgrade to at least a standard plan, payment of almost 2 USDT was require to upgrade to a standard plan in order to have access to
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Send 1 free transaction
Up to 3 members
Paid recovery and inheritance
Free email and chat support
There are various payment methods available, which look very impressive. I chose the USDT TRC 20 network because of their low transaction fee, and I initiated payment, which was very fast.

I deposited 3.98USDT, and there is an option to get refund, but it is a small amount that is why I didn't care to get my refund.

Deposit and Withdrawal

Since I chose the Bitcoin network, I transferred 0.0005 BTC from my electrum wallet to my Mixin safe Bitcoin wallet. The deposit went through without a hitch since as soon as the transaction was completed, I received information from my Mixin Messenger that I had received a deposit of 0.0005 BTC.

After receiving the deposit, the home page changes to show the balance available in the Mixin safe wallet


Withdrawal process.
The withdrawal process went as well as expected; I had no network troubles when completing my transaction.

When I requested a withdrawal, a page appeared asking for my receiving address and the amount of Bitcoin I was transferring to the address, with a minimum of 0.0001 BTC. After entering the amount of BTC I wanted to withdraw, I was asked to scan a QR code for member approval using the Mixin messenger and the owner's approval using the Mornin key, and then I accepted the transaction in the Mixin safe to complete it.
Without any delay, I received the bitcoin in my electrum wallet.


Conclusions and Recommendations

Conclusion
After going through the complete Mixin process, I must conclude that the Mixin safe platform is well-organized, and the multi-signature withdrawal mechanism is excellent because it demonstrates that our assets are entirely protected and can never be taken without our consent.
Furthermore, the Mixin Messenger is important since it keeps us informed of everything that is going on in the Mixin safe, whether it is a deposit or withdrawal request.

The overall procedure was really smooth, the site is user-friendly, and the guide provided is very important in order to have a perfect secure transaction on the Mixin safe platform.

Recommendations
First of all, the idea of using a phone number to sign up for Messenger is not a good idea for security reasons, especially as it is a Mixing platform that intends to protect our privacy; a mail address should have been a better option.

If possible, a user should be automatically logged out once he is out of the Mixin Safe platform for security reasons, so that there will be a request for a password whenever a user wants to have access to their Mixin Safe accounts, even though I know that Mornin keys and Mixin Messenger confirmations are needed to withdraw any funds.

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<My REVIEW>

1. (Mobile App) MIXIN CRYPTO WALLET/MESSENGER


Download and installation: downloading the Mixin crypto wallet/messenger app from the Play Store was so fast, it never took up to 2 minute before the app was downloaded, and the app space is just 43.26 MB, which is not too large.
I created my account by first adding my mobile number, and a four-digit code was sent through SMS to confirm my account.





Creating the mixing wallet: creating the mixing wallet was simple because I just had to continue and select a six-digit password key.




Creating a six-digit pin: after selecting a six-digit pin, pin confirmation was repeated five times before it was successful.



Wallet was successfully and easily created without stress; this is what anyone can do without finding it difficult as long as they have downloaded the app.


(Bot)Team Mixin warm welcome and brife introductory message: On accessing the App, the first message I got was from the Mixin team bot, welcoming me and giving a few guidelines on how the Mixin wallet works.




Commentary: I can say that this is a very good and informative introduction that can be of help.


Observation: I sent a few messages to the bot on 20th July, but it never replied to any, which makes me think that the bot is not very active. I have asked questions to the bots of other platforms, and they really did provide a quick reply, but the Mixin Team bot never did. Suprisenly,  there was a reply to my question on the 21th of July. I suggest that the mixin team should work on the bot so it can provide a quick answer to questions.




Adding Contacts:
In order to test how well the contacts adding works with carrying out transactions on the mixin safe, I contacted a few of my trusted friends to download the mixin app and give me their mixin ID, which they did, and I added them as my contacts on Messenger.
  



ADDING EMERGENCY CONTACT:

I also added three users to my emergency contact list.
A user can be added as your contact, but without adding them to your emergency contact list, you can't also add them as signatories to the mixin safe. To add an emergency contact, you need them (your selected contact) to receive a 4-digit code, which you will need to confirm, and they will need to agree to be added to your emergency contact list before you do so.
 



OBSERVATION: I discovered that it's possible for you to add a user as your contact, and both of you can communicate through the chart, but before you can add a user to your "emergency contact," that user must also have you in their contact list; otherwise, they will not receive the 4-digit confirmation code that allows you to successfully add them to emergency contact.


COMMENTARY: This is really a good and transparent feature that makes sure you and your contact are in agreement 🤝 before adding them to emergency contact so they can confirm your transaction before it's successfu.

My three emergency contacts were successfully added without any difficulty, and this is what any internet sufferer can easily do too. The Mixin Mobile app is very easy to use.

FUNDING MY MIXIN WALLET
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I sent some BTC to my Mixin wallet, and after three network confirmations, it successfully arrived in my wallet, and I was also notified through the Mixin team bot.


WITHDRAWAL FROM MIXIN WALLET
I initiated a withdrawal from my Mixin wallet to my mixin safe Bitcoin address, but the transaction fee on the Mixin wallet is so high—about $16 worth of Bitcoin. I tried the inter-tramsfers option and sent some Bitcoin to one of my contacts, and he confirmed to have received it so fast, and I was not charged any fee for the internal transfer to another Mixin user.



Taking screenshot is not allowed, so I Snape it wit another phone.



I sent BTC to a mixin UID with Zero fee and the user sent it back to me, still with zero fee.

Commentary: I love the fact that the internal transfer of funds on the Mixin wallet messenger is free and fast, but the withdrawal fee for chain transfer (to another BTC address) is so high.  I suggest that the Mixin team should reduce the withdrawal transaction fee, because, definitely, after sending some funds to the Mixin wallet, if the user wants to withdraw to a CEX or DEX, they will really be frightened by the fee.


2. TEXTING MIXIN SAFE

After downloading the Mixin Messenger Mobile app from the Play Store and creating my account, which was very easy with four contacts added and three contacts added as emergency contacts, to connect the messager to my Mixin safe, I had to scan the Mixin QR code from another device, which never took more than 30 seconds before it was successfully connected and I was logged in.


Complement: There was really no difficulty in downloading the Mixin Messenger Mobile app and connecting it to my Mixin Safe; it was an efficient process that anyone can do without any difficulty unless the challenge they face is from their own end.


CREATING NEW SAFE:

Creating the mixing safe has 4 stage as discussed Below.

  Owner:: I decided to use the Mornin Key Mobile app as my private wallet key to control my mixin safe transactions, and I had to also use the Mornin app to scan the QR code displayed on my monitor. From the first stage of "creating a new safe," it quickly connected within less than 10 seconds. Which showed approval on the morning app and was also successful on the mixin safe. I clicked on Next, which quickly took me to the next stage of adding members:





Members::: I had to add the three contacts from my saved emergency contacts. On the threshold,
I only approved two contacts to confirm my transaction any time I signed any transaction. After then, the summary stage follows.




Summery: It shows all the details for my created safe, and the next stage is to ungrade my plans before I will be allowed to sign any transaction through my safe.



Upgrade: I upgraded my safe with the "Standard plan," which cost about $2 p.a. My method of payment was through "Mixpay+ wallets," for which I had to fund my Mixin wallet and scan the QR code of the Mixpay+ wallet. The transaction was quickly approved.






Commentary: The payment for upgrading the mixing safe is very fast using the "Mixpay+ wallet". There are also three different plans to select from. This feature is really cool, as one can choose the particular plan they want to upgrade to.


Active Mixing Safe:

After successfully upgrading my mixin safe to the standard plan, I waited a few hours before the safe was finally active.



Suggestions: Every other process and confirmation was smooth and efficient, but it really took more than 2 hours before the safe was finally active. The Mixin team should please look into what could be the cause of the delay.


FUNDING MY MIXIN SAFE:
I succefully funded my mixin safe with 0.000151 Bitcoin.





SIGNING A TRANSACTION ON MY MIXIN SAFE:
 After depositing some Bitcoin to my mixin safe, I also tried to withdraw it back to my wallet with a few steps. First, I initiated a new transaction and imputed the amount of Bitcoin I wanted to withdraw, and I was asked to scan a QR code with my Mixin Messenger before my added contacts could confirm the transaction. Then I contacted my two friends to confirm my transaction, which they did. After they did, I lastly had to also confirm the transaction with my mornin key App.
  Image of the steps are serially arranged bellow.













CONCLUSION:
 This review process was successfully carried out by me, Dr. Bitcoin Strange, starting on the 20th of July 2023 until today of submitting my feedback on the review. During the process of this review, I used two different mobile phones and a desktop, and I can say that the mixin safe is good with its top feature that allows you to add a few of your trusted friends to confirm your transaction while they can't withdraw from your safe.

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July 24, 2023, 03:42:40 AM
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@AnonBitCoiner, I moved you from Batch#5 to Batch#3

@Cryptomultiplier, removed you as requested.

I am regularly deleting posts which are not related to dropping application and posting review. Please follow this rule even if you need to withdraw an application please post it on the other topic, not here.

Batch#2 payment sent. Members we have in Batch#2 are:
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Deadline for you to post your review is 31/07/2023.
Please read the note is red font just under that table for Batch#2

Looking forward to some great reviews.

Batch#1, you are doing well. Please those who still haven't submit your review yet, submit it before 26th 23:59 UTC.

Cheers,



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