[CFNP] Mixin Safe - Decentralized Bitcoin Custody Solutions | Review Campaign

[virasog]

Bitcointalk username: virasog

Review:-
Thanks for the opportunity to review the Mixin Safe.

I started by preparing the Owner Wallet. For this, i decided to use the Mornin Key. Since it was all new experience for me, i took help from this tutorial. https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-mornin-key-to-create-mixin-safe-1u1rf36/

I installed the Mornin Key and created an account easily. It asks me to secure my account and i did it by confirming my Mnemonic phrase. The process was clear and easy to understand until this point.

The next step is to download and install the Mixin Messager. Since i have an Android phone, I downloaded it from the play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=one.mixin.messenger
After verifying it from my mobile number, it asks me to create a pin which should be at least 6 digits. I verified my PIN several times before it was successfully set up. I checked my wallet and it supported all the major cryptocurrencies. So finally my Mixin Messager was also ready.




Now I will test the deposit and withdrawal through the Mixin safe. I opened the link https://safe.mixin.zone/
First, I would need to create the Mixin Safe and it asks me to scan my Mixin Messeager. It quickly verfied and i was able to login.



The dashboard was clean however there a warning type note on top that

This is a beta software and to ensure the safety of your assets, it is not recommended to store more than $1,000.

. So i wondered when the full version of this will be released.

Next i go to the URL https://safe.mixin.zone/accounts/new to create a safe. I choose LTC and the other option was Bitcoin.

First i needed to upgrade my Plan. I opted for the 2$ plan as i am testing this and it fulfills my purpose.



On upgrade, it took to me to the mixpay site where I choose LTC for the payment. It took around 3 -4 minutes to confirm the payment and my plan was upgraded.



Now i moved to the safe section in order to create a safe. I had to scan my Mornin Key. Although the scanning was done instantly but it took some time in order to activate the wallet.

Although it showed here it will take only 1 minute to complete but it took a lot of time but the Active button was not Activated.
At that time i was thinking that maybe this is the default behavior but later i realized my mistake.



I waited for about 10 mins and nothing happened. Then I realized that i had to scan my Mornin key again in order to activate it. Scan the QR code and it activated instantly.

Now i deposited LTC. I checked that the minimum deposit was 0.0001 LTC. However, decided to deposit about 10-12$ worth of LTC.
The deposit arrived quickly then i expected.



Now it was time to test the withdrawal and to check if it asks for at least 2 approvals' before withdrawing. I opted to withdraw and i confirmed that it asks for the members approval which i did by scanning my Mixin Messenger and then i had to do the owner approval by Mornin key.

The process was completed successfully and i was able to withdrawal. I really liked this application and hope to use it in future too.

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[_act_]

Bitcointalk username: _act_

Mixin Safe review


Before I can setup my Mixin Safe account which is a multisig means to hold my coins, I need Mixin messenger. Before I can be able to setup Mixin Safe wallets and make transactions, I need Mornin Key. I saw both apps on PlayStore.


Mixin Messenger Setup
I downloaded Mixin messenger from Playstore. After I downloaded it, I clicked on the app and I read the privacy policy and terms of service. I agree and continue. It requested phone number to finally setup the mixin messager. The next thing that I did was to add someone to my contact. After adding contact, I clicked on settings, account, security to setup my emergency contact.

Because I need emergency contact, I used another device to setup another Mixin Messenger account. I added myself as the emergency contact on both. My Mixin Messenger is ready to scan the QR code from Mixin Safe website to create my own Mixin Safe account.


Mornin Key Setup
I need Mornin Key for creating different Mixing Safe wallets and for making transactions. I downloaded it on PlayStore. I paid $0.52 in my local currency and setup the Morning Key which is a password manager.


Mixin Safe account setup
I go to Mixin Safe website, I clicked on sign in and it brought up QR code which I used Mixin Messenger to scan. After I scanned it, authorization request showed up on my Mixin Messenger which I read and clicking on next. I finished clicking on next and the QR code page changed to my Mixin Safe account.


Mixin Safe setup, deposit and withdrawal.
After I set up Mixin Safe account, I need to create a safe that will generate me a multisig address. I clicked on new safe to do that. There are two coin options which are bitcoin and litecoin. I used bitcoin, but if I like I can also create a safe for litecoin. Before you complete the process, you have to use Morning Key to scam QR code to create the safe (and also needed for withdrawal). You will need to pay before you will finally be able to create a safe and the payment plan is in the image below:





I deposited into the multisig safe and I saw the money after 1 confirmation. I was notified on Mixin Messenger.

I withdrawn the coin and I received it in less than 3 minutes. This depends on bitcoin network confirmation. What I just mean is that I received it in the next block mined. But before I was able to finally make withdrawal, I signed the transaction as a member using Morning Key and I was notified on my Mixin Messenger account. I later signed the transaction again as the owner which is the second signing before the transaction was approved.





In summary, you will need Mixin messenger to create Mixin Safe account with the use of QR code. You will need Mornin key to create Mixin Safe wallet which will generate you a multisig address which you can know is a multisig because it has longer characters. Mornin key is also used to sign transaction as a member and owner before you can withdraw bitcoin or litecoin from your Mixin safe wallet.

No QR code for withdrawal
Not exactly a con, but it would be better to see it added. During withdrawal, I expected to see QR code which I can use the wallet I want to deposit to, to scan, but I have to copy the address and paste it on Mixin Safe. For deposit, I saw QR code which was what I used, but I was unable to see it during withdrawal.

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Failure to refund by 10th August will result a negative feedback. There will be no further request accepted.

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[GxSTxV]

Bitcointalk username: GxSTxV
My Review

It’s my honor to test this pure decentralized safe and i feel like many people didn’t understand or notice the value of this wallet and service which offers several features. And one of the best features they offer is a safe wallet that can be similar and secure to ledger wallets.

Mornin Key:

I started my test with IOS IPAD device and thankfully you were offering a TestFlight version for free since i don’t have any card that works on App store to purchase Mornin Key application.
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Everything went good in opening an account and with very easy and simple steps. So Mornin Key is like a third part to import your wallet created in safe.mixin.zone after scanning the QR code. Beside having the option to choose between networks like bitcoin litecoin or else.


Mixing Messenger Application tested on IOS

Steps of creating an account were also easy and simple just by using a phone number in my personal experience, And like any secure App setting a PIN code is important and obligation.

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Switching between the app was smooth and easy to discover the features, and of course i had to change my profile picture Xd. And since i installed Mixin application days before writing the review i added some contacts from this topic and i was chatting and receiving messages normally.

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Inside the application you can find that the main bot which called Team Mixing with the ID number 7000 actually answering questions and i don’t know if it’s an AI, with it i got more bots for swapping tokens and coins directly from the app and it’s also a feature not found in many wallets as they only offer selling or swapping between the same networks.
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What i noticed is the slightly high fees on withdrawing, such as LTC they take 0.02 and mentioned as network fees but regularly LTC network fees are not more than 0.001 LTC. But it’s no big difference.

And here is my transaction ( deposit and withdrawal) of litecoin.

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There is a small detail when sending to a new address, the app requires you to add it as a contact and save it. I don’t find it as a good feature but adds more time to do transactions in my opinion.

Setting up Mixin Safe

First thing i couldn’t sign up on the same device using my safari browser, i took a screenshot for the QR code to scan it with Mixin Messenger, which shows Authorized but nothing happens in my browser. I had to use my other phone and scanned it again and this time went well.
But the steps of creating a safe and saving it with Mornin Key were simple and without any issue using my other device.

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Things i noticed:

Beside the error of not connecting safe.mixin.zone using safari browser.

When trying to withdraw from Mixin Wallet i suggest that you set the feature of withdrawing maximum without having to manually calculate the amount including fees.


Conclusion:

I can say that Mixin offers what many projects and companies combined in one Decentralized project, it’s a solution for many countries like us in the middle east that can’t get a ledger wallet or a safe. With reasonable prices. And not having to worry about swapping tokens and coins as you also offer that service.
But I suggest that you create a video or picture tutorial to make things more simple for new users.

[Chilwell]

Bitcointalk username: Chilwell
MY REVIEW

Download and installation of mornin key

I wanted to download mornin key app through the Google play store which I discovered that my phone does not support Google play store because am using HAUWEI NOVA 9 SE, then I tried APK (for Android user) which I was warn that file might be harmful and I command it to download it anyway, than my phone checked if there is any threats and no threats found. I now install the mornin key into my phone free without any fear. After the installation and then click on the app and it shows me create a new account or import an account, then I proceed by creating the account with the necessary requirements, it request for security lock which I prefer using passcode, then proceed to secure your account and I deed as it instructed.

Download and Installation of Mixin Messenger
Downloading mixin messenger in my phone was hard because there is not APK (for Android users) for the app and the only option there was App store and Google play store which was not supported by my smart phone, I have to call a friend of mine to assist me with his phone, then I downloaded it using my friend phone, then transfer the app to my phone, praying that it should work and it went smoothly when installing it in my device. I start the setup by putting my phone number and immediately I received my 4 digit code, the process was easy, fast, and simple. It move me to create pin page and request for the six digit pin which I insert my secret pin and also comfirm it three times which I was surprised because it was my first time of comfirming pin more than two times, this really show how serious you are about this wallet.

Deposit
I tap on the receiving botton to get my wallet address for Bitcoin deposition, I deposited 0.00035 BTC to the wallet which required only one comfirmation to complete my withdrawal, the comfirmation took almost few seconds to complete the transaction and when it was completed it took the asset some minutes to show in my wallet, this make me fear that I pick wrong address. Unlike other wallet immediately the comfirmation is done it will receive the coin immediately, this really shock me, please if anything can be done to make it faster it will be better.

Sign in mixin safe
Sign in mixin safe is like a magic to me because I used my phone and my laptop to login, I login through this link https://safe.mixin.zone/login by scanning the QR code using my phone through the laptop and login was smoothly and successfully without any challenge.

Upgrading mixin sate plan.
Before I create new safe I went to setting to upgrade my plan and I then click on the upgrade and it took me to the mixpay. Me

This page is for the plan where to choose the plan you want to upgrade to and I tap on $2 plan. Here are step by step I followed to upgrade for plan.

 

 

Creating a new safe
Procedure for creating a new safe:-
Tap on the safe at the left side of the your laptop or mobile phone, it will show you a page where you will find new safe at the right side of the your device then tap on it, it will show you where you will enter the name of the safe and the network and then tap on the next, this is where your mornin key comes in, scan the QR code using mornin key to create your key and approve it for safe creation, then tap on next and set your family or team member I decided to do it only me and the threshold is also one person which is me, then to the summary, but since I have upgraded it before, it proceeded to active.

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Deposit to safe
When I want to deposit in my mixin safe through the mixin messenger I noticed that the amount is too small then I top up my wallet and it amount to 0.00053387 BTC worth $15.5, then I open my mixin safe to deposit, which I tap on receive and it appear to me deposit together with the address and the QR code, I open my mixin messenger to scan the QR code to process the payment, I wanted to send everything in the wallet to my safe and it was showing me insufficient balance, I then  change amount to 0.0001 BTC worth $2.9. The charge fee is too high to the extent that I want to give up, I thought it was the amount I put before is the reason for that high charge after changing the amount the charges still remain the same, I send 0.0001 BTC worth 2.9 dollars and the charge was 0.00042 BTC worth 12.2 dollars. The only that am comfortable with is the speed of the transaction because it is very simple and fast.

              

   

 

The above image are how the transaction took place in my mixin messenger.

This is the amount received in my safe.

Withdrawal from the mixing safe
I Initiate the withdrawal from the mixing safe to my wallet by tapping into on new transaction to fill in necessary requirements include the amount and the receiver address, then I proceed to the summary to create, then to the members approval, which l did the approval because am the only one that was assigned, then to the owner approval and it bring out QR code and request for the scan with the mornin key to approve the transaction request. Immediately after the request the transaction went through within seconds and completed. Withdrawal from mixing safe is very simple, easy and fast.   

Observation
I have two observation base on my reviews.
    1.My observation is based on the mobile phone am using which does not support google play store and app store to download the mixin messenger. My question is that, are you saying that the mixin messenger is not for everybody but limited to some devices?
    2.I noticed the transfer charges from the mixin messenger to mixin safe is at flat rate no matter the amount, but it changes day by day, the first time I noticed is went I want to text run it and I see the charges it was between 6-7 dollars, the following day it was between 12-13 dollars is on this day I make the transfer, then the next day it was between 10-11 dollars, on 7th August, 2023 around 7am-8am and the charges was between 5-6 dollars.  My question is that why are we having different charges everyday?

Conclusion
I have come to the end of my review and am actually convinced with all what have seen. I will suggest that they should improve in some of the challenges I faced. Mixin safe is a great one because of it features, especially the mixin messenger which you can chat like other social media.  I will recommend mixin safe for every trader because of its security and also lose  of funds in case the person past away. For me, I see mixin safe as the best now.

[Onyeeze]

Bitcointalk Username: Onyeeze Royse I thank you for the privilege you gave to me participate in this project review. This is my first time to have participated in a review in bitcointalk and I took my me to make this review because the review have three segment to undergoes before it will get get completed and if you miss the steps you won't understand the next to do, what really help is the description given by op of the thread.

The following are the review procedures.

● mixin crypto wallet
● mornin key
● safe.mixin.zone

Before I proceed with this step in used bot of mixin guidelines to read and know what exactly is going to be what I need to know, and after reading the process  I began the journey, which I chatted with the bot and it showed gree.

Mixin cryptocurrency wallet: I installed mixin crypto wallet freely without stress from a Google play store, and I took my time to make sure I have not downloaded  the wrong application  of mixin crypto wallet, and after I downloaded the mixin crypto wallet I opened the app and during getting my pin through the application it could not take time to received a code through my mobile number to proceed the process, and after that I adding mixin messenger contacts, I added some contacts through using user ID, and after being done that I commence a chat.

 

   

Wallet
Wallet: its through the mixin crypto wallet where I seen different options of wallet that we can deposit, and i was tempted to choose another wallet another wallet to check if the this will work, but after sometime I choose to use Bitcoin wallet to make make my deposit, after I made a deposit it couldn't take much time it get confirmed.
And I notice that since Bitcoin transaction be faster to be confirmed either if any other coin listed in there will take same effect to get confirmed very fast as bitcoin could not delay.




 Deposit
I did find any difficulties in depositing through my mixin safe messenger application but only thing is that I was not sure of what I was doing until I copied the bitcoin address display and pasted in my trust wallet, and I clicked continue and after done that I waited foe little seconds before the transaction is been confirmed, when I was waiting for the transaction to get confirmed t taught if I have mistakenly chosen another wallet because the first time I clicked on bitcoin I saw received and send and I was like confused on the one to click to get my wallet address and finally  I got it and it was confirmed after the transaction.





Mornim key
Mornin key: when I tried to download mornin key from the APK it shows an error whereas I used the example given by Royse through the site to download the mornin key application, then I proceeded by by downloading it through Google play, before I could download the application successfully I was given a charge to pay with my country currency, and the column that was provided for me to pay the charges demanded for my ATM card 💳 (debit/credit card) serial number which contains almost thirteen (13) digits, and after that I was ask if the card was visa or master card and I selected selected the option of my card, and provision of three (3) digits was demanded  the ccv number, after putting the number I downloaded mornin key app.
After I download mornin key I proceed  to create my account and I was demanded to write down my account mnemoni phrase, and I wrote it down in a paper and I started putting them according the numeric order, and after that I created a good pass code which enables me to login into my mornin key.






Safe.mixin.zone
This I use the illustrations given to carry out the duties of safe.mixin.zone, I will say that this one of most serious part of this review because it carries a lot of functions, when I started, it demands that I should create an safe account, so tye mixin safe was created and before I get approoved I was reminded to use the scan QR code and i used it and it capture directly to my wallet in mixin wallet that is already established and I clicked continue and it was approved or sent, so I went back to safe mixin zone and it was reported that I have one transaction, but initially their was no 1 transaction in the box, all the boxed were  empty with zero (0) and their was option given to me to click on my safe in there I saw my name Onyeeze and I saw view that is the place I saw my approved transaction. The images can attest to my proof of work.










Conclusion

Mixin safe is good for someone to keep coin, but one thing I notice in the safe is that during creation of safe through safe.mixin.zone, in the safe aspect of it their is a warning showing or displaying on the dashboard that the safe is not allowed to keep above one thousand  ($1000) dollars worth of coins. I want to know if you safe more than one thousand dollars worth of coins won't you be allowed to make sure that you have the coin back or the safe will not be opening again. For the step seen during this review I like to recommend this people. And also i want the owner of this project make sure that downloading mornin key through the site and directly to APK is be resolved because the charge taken by Google play store to download the mornin key is much and it's stressful, it happened that if you doesn't have an ATM card you will not get access to download the application.

[Z-tight]

Bitcointalk username: Z-tight
This is my honest review of Mixin Safe, from the installation of all the necessary apps, to what i think about mixin safe in general and all my experiences from start to finish. I skimmed through some reviews before i tried out mixin safe for myself, but honestly even after doing that i still didn't understand exactly how mixin safe worked, i guess i had to try it out myself to understand how to use the safe.

Mornin Key
Mornin key is an app you have to pay for in order to be able to insall it, after making the little payment which is less than a dollar, i started having problems because the app refused to open on my device, the problem was actually from my device i guess, because i was using a phone with a low GB Ram, then i installed mornin key on another device with a higher Ram, i was able to open and access the app. Creating an account on mornin key is easy, and you must save a backup of your mnemonic because that is the only way to recover your account.

Mixin Messenger
Downloading mixin messenger is free, unlike mornin key, the only problem with it is that you have to register with your phone number, there ought to be other options, like using an email address. Upon registeration, you will receive a 4 digit code to complete your registration, afterwards you are required to set a six digit pin which you have to confirm at least 4 times, take note that this pin is very important as you will be required to input it in many of your activities in mixin messenger.

Mixin Safe
Creating a safe could be ambiguous if you don't know what to do exactly, you are to visit the website: https://safe.mixin.zone/ and click on "sign in", and then use the camera icon in your mixing messenger to scan the QR code, but before doing that you must have added contacts that you trust in your mixin messenger app, then afterwards you have to add an emergency contact, this contact can help you recover your account, but take note that the emergency contact cannot help you to recover your pin; to add emergency contact: settings>account>security>emergency contact, this contact will also have to add you as their emergency contact, and then a 4 digit code will be sent to your friend which you have to get for the whole process to be complete. After all of that, you can now scan the QR code, after scanning there are some request notifications that will pop up, like "allow bot to read your assets", "allow bot to read your contacts", etc, only the request of allowing bot to read your public profile cannot be altered, i didn't alter any of it, so if i may ask, what will happen if i refuse some of the request authorization?

Creating safe
To create a safe you have to choose your preferred network and a safe name. I chose BTC. You also have to set up owner and member wallets.

Your owner wallet will hold your key as the owner of the safe, you can either use mornin key, BTC core or Ledger. I used mornin key to scan the QR code and create owner wallet.

Next is the member wallet, and you have a minimum of 1 and maximum of 5 members to add, after adding members you wish, the next is a summary of all your set up, and date and time the safe was created. To finally create safe you must upgrade your plan, each plan comes with its own perks and benefits.

I chose the $2 upgrade plan, i made my payment in BTC and afterwards another page was opened, and now i have to wait for confirmation, after confirmation i was told that i overpaid and i was given a refund code, the amount in question was very small, but just to test the refund process, i requested for a refund. Take note that the refund would be sent to my mixin messenger wallet.

The refund process is easy, you have to add the Mixpay bot to your Mixin messenger, then send the refund code in the chat and follow the process for the refund.

After my plan was upgraded, the final process is to use mornin key to scan the QR code and sign, then the safe is created.

Deposit and Withdrawal
There is a minimum deposit of 0.0001 BTC, i copied my BTC address and made a deposit to test the process, once my tx was confirmed, my deposit reflected in my safe and i also got a notification of the deposit in my mixin messenger as well as my members also got notifications. Withdrawal was also smooth, after making a withdrawal, your added members must approve the tx, and finally you will have to use your owner wallet to sign the transaction.

My observation about mixin safe is that i think the name is a little bit confusing, and i wonder why it is called 'mixin', it is not a mixer, it can be called a 'safe wallet'. I know the creators of this safe want an easy way for people to hold their funds, but there is nothing easy about the whole process, it is ambiguous and many people will not understand how it works at first. This is also like a web wallet, and the users do not hold the keys to their funds, there is also no privacy in the process because once you make a deposit or withdrawal your added members will know about it.

[nelson4lov]

Mixin ID: 41194480

Thanks to Royse777 and the Mixin team for the opportunity.

Completed the following:
-  Prepare Owner Wallet:
-   Prepare Members Wallet: Get Mixin Messenger  
-   Set Mixin Messenger PIN  
-  Add Mixin Messenger Contacts: Please ask all safe members to add each other as a contact in Mixin Messenger, including yourself.
-  Set Emergency Contact: Please ask all safe members to set an emergency contact in Mixin Messenger, including yourself.  
- Create and Sign in Mixin Safe
- Fund and send asset transactions from Mixin Safe




Enter the reveiw




First off, I followed the guide at: https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-mornin-key-to-create-mixin-safe-1u1rf36/
In order to attain my own Mornin key. As per the instructions, there is a free apk version of the app available as seen here:



I went for the APK version, but I saw this error message. After multiple attempts still return the same error (as seen in the screenshot below):




I moved on to the next alternative, to install the Mornin key via TestFlight on macOS.




Now installed, I proceeded to create an account. Mornin key provides Biometrics and PIN options as security measures to secure accounts created via the app.


After authenticating with biometrics, I am asked to access my seed phrase and store it safely for recovery if needed.



Next up, I installed the Mixin messenger app, completed the account setup and created PIN. It requested me to input my desired pin 4 times. A bit excessive but since it's a security feature, I don't mind.



Worked on the next attempt. And I signed in successfully.



I proceeded to sign into the Mixin safe dashboard using my mornin key on my mobile to scan the qr code.



Then I created a Litecoin safe after paying a $2 upgrade fee with MATIC on the polygon network, added a member from Mixin messenger as a 1/3 key holder and deposited it into the safe using LTC tokens.


Summary
Having tried out the majority of the features available on the Mornin key, Mixin Messenger and Mixin Safe, I want to note the following:
 

• Overall, the UI of Mornin, Mixin Messenger and Safe are all good - I didn't have any problem with the colours used in the UI design.
• The onboarding and user experience wasn't a smooth one and it also wasn't intuitive.  Most of the time, I didn't know what the next process in the flow was and had to play around in order to figure out the next step. The mixin safe start page (https://safe.mixin.zone/start) provides a solid onboarding experience which I enjoyed. other than that, I had to do a lot of figuring stuff out on my own to use other features.
• I couldn't use the Mornin key app on my desktop since any operation that involves the mornin key on the Mixin safe dashboard requires scanning a QR code in order to confirm the approval. An alternative for Mixin desktop users should provide an option for entering a secure code displayed on the Mixin safe website and entering that code in the mornin key app to trigger an approval operation.  Why do I have to install the mornin key app on my desktop when I can't use it to approve operations/transactions in my safe because it requires qr scan?
• I love the minimalist design of the mornin key app on both desktop and mobile. However, for a typical password manager, it lacks a lot of features. Relying on manually inputting website URLs. Plus, there is no way to view passwords that are automatically created by the mornin key upon adding a new login item.  A mornin key browser extension would be nice to have but not necessary and it will improve the process of using the mornin key app on desktop.
• Seed phrase storage and confirmation on Mornin key app don't allow for copying the phrase. That's a plus for me since clipboard attacks are rampant now.
• When it was time to make a transaction from my safe, I approved the request using 1/3 from a member via mixin messenger. When it was time to scan the QR code to make a safe approval via Mornin key app, The qr codes kept changing. I know this is by design but it's not intuitive. It took me around 5 minutes before I realized that the qr code scanner needs to be fixed between 30 seconds to 1 minute (probably more) before it can get 3/3 approval. There should be a tiny note informing the user about this. I almost took it for a bug but it is a feature.
• Some of the articles in the docs are vague and need some additions here and as well as someone grammar fixes in some areas like here: https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-mornin-key-to-create-mixin-safe-1u1rf36/
  
  
• Question to Mixin team: In a safe that has only 1 member, 1 owner and 3 keys; who owns the final key? The Mixin team or the owner has 2 keys vs 1 key for the member.
• The payment gateway to pay the upgrade fee in order to get a safe is smooth. This was a plus in my books.

[dkbit98]

Bitcointalk username: dkbit98

Let's start from the beginning.
I first though this is going to be simple procedure to set up all wallets and create multisig setup, but soon I realized I need to spend fair amount of time to download and set up everything correctly.

Mixin app is free so I downloaded latest version, and I knew it is based on well known signal messaging app and I knew they are asking for phone number registration.
This is the first thing I didn't like, but I found a way around it and I managed to registered account, that can be used both as messaging app and as cryptocurrency wallet.
I first though this is a cool idea since it supports Bitcoin, Monero and many other coins, but than I realized that I can't download and/or export private keys or seed words, that probably means that app is custodial.
I also can't set my own fees and I saw comments on google store from other people who complain that fees are outrages high.



I went ahead and changed settings in Mixin app to increase my privacy, but I had one small issue with trying to hide my phone number, and I will explain it later.
After setting up my PIN and changing settings in my main Mixing app, I created another account on different device that served as my Messenger Contacts and as Emergency Contact.
I tried finding account with username but it only worked after I typed user ID number.
I tested removing, adding contact again, changing username, and everything worked fine.
There is also Mixing desktop app, and I downloaded it and connected using QR code.



I wanted to test all Mixing products so for this purpose I used Morning Key as Owner Wallet and installation procedure was not complicated.
Paying $1 dollar for app is not a lot of money for this app but I decided to download free APK version available on website, since I used deg00gled phone for this testing.
This time I generated seed words and save them in offline in safe place, and I continued further.



I had a small problem with Mixing Safe because I tried to open with disabled option for phone number, and I couldn't create it until I returned and enabled sharing of my phone number.
I tried talking with Mixin chat support, but nobody was responding, maybe because of different time zones or they don't have enough people for this positions.

 

I went ahead creating Mixin Safe and I needed to pay 2 pUSD in crypto, and I selected USDT and overpaid fee microcents, but I was later refunded using EPC inside wallet.



First strange thing I notice in Mixin safe is that this is beta software and nobody should send more than $1000 worth of crypto?!  
I would probably not send even $100 after reading this red banner, so I decided to send much lower amount for this testing.
Only two coins are available for multisig, Bitcoin and Litecoin so I had to proceed with LTC, but initially I wanted to try testing with XMR.





I managed to deposit LTC and create Mixin Safe, and after that I withdraw LTC back to my own non-custodial wallet, and I had to do all procedure in reversed way.
It all worked fine more or less, but I had few small bugs along the way and I had no support from their support and I had to figure it out myself.

My Final thoughts:

Mixing Safe is an interesting concept but I have to say that I don't like the final product.
I really don't understand exact purpose for this much complications for beta software that can hold maximum $1000 with risk of losing it all because of some bugs.
Setting everything up is not easy and newbies would probably need hours to set up everything, if they ever manage to do it, and I don't think Mixing Safe is good for them.
Experienced Bitcoiners will never use Mixin Safe for multiple reasons, when they can create Multisig setup themselves in much safer and quicker way.
On top of everything I said, people using Mixin Safe will pay additional fees and they will have risk of exposing phone number and other personal details.
A lot more improvement is needed for this service to gain more popularity, and I won't name any competition services here, but easier alternatives use multisig setup or shamir secret sharing.

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My Review About App:
I use my personal mobile phone to register the "Mixin safe" messenger apps. Unlike other apps, "Mixin safe" messenger apps, I have no problem to register on mobile phone even this was excellent to do this all as this was very easy and comfortable to do this all.
Here I want to say one thing if anyone wants to download "Mixin safe "app, then they can download it from Google Play Store by entering the link provided from the main website, otherwise it will be not good idea to download app from any other website.

Signup and creating pin:
This was really easy to work with because I feel the team done good job here, and they understand all about market and people's mindset, so this process completed without any problem, but you have to remember your 6 digit pin because without this you can't do anything on this app. Also if you feel any problem from PIN then you can try biometric option by enabling them for easy and quick process done.


Setting:
This all is very smooth as we can change our mobile number and 6 digit pin with many other features are also giving good impression to users here I want to add one thing which really admire me this is emergency contact because this is also important for all users with chat and grouping is also impressive thing from team as well.


Wallet:
Mixin wallet is used to receive, store and send cryptos. All big coins and big networks available. Deposit and withdraw function is very easy to use with same options which we have in other wallets. One function is added which is to send crypto to contact which increase the security and delivery fund with fast speed without paying any fee.


Deposit and Withdraw:
I deposited BNB through my wallet and this all works very smoothly which was really impressive because I faced no problem during this process and then after checking all features on wallet I try few experiments which was also fun, and then I have been withdrawing my funds without any problem even fees were higher than Binance but still this all was doing very easily which is surely going to have good impact on users in future.


Last words from my side:
safe is very simple and easy to use. Payment method option is convenient since it has multiple option. The transaction speed and website responsiveness in every task is very quick which makes my overall experience smooth on all the process. For me most user-friendly cryptocurrencies wallet to store various type of crypto in the market.

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