⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024

[buwaytress]

BVB look really shaky, but I put Mainz as the first choice to get their manager sacked in the bonus question-- the result helps my case!

Not sure of Mainz here because Bundesliga has a few teams where changing a coach isn't done very often.
Like Freiburg (Christian Streich, since 2012), Union (Urs Fischer, since 2018), and Heidenheim (Frank Schmidt, who achieved 1st league, coach at Heidenheim since 2007).
I would consider Mainz to be close to that group as well and their current coach, Bo Svensson, has been a Mainz player for a very long time.
For him to get sacked, Mainz really needs to have a bad season.
But we never know, of course. 

You have a good point there and I perhaps am all too unfamiliar with how German clubs view patience but after Bayern's unexpected sacking, I'm leaning towards other clubs also losing patience with stalwarts, particularly Mainz, who were probably really happy with Bo after running them close to Europe... but I remember, they lost almost every important game near the end right after beating Bayern and then spoiled the party for BVB.

I am counting on another bad streak... 5L 1D in last 6 games, I suspect 4 more bad games and Bo is in real danger, especially as they should be expected to win a couple of the next few.

It's guesswork, of course

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[1miau]

I am counting on another bad streak... 5L 1D in last 6 games, I suspect 4 more bad games and Bo is in real danger, especially as they should be expected to win a couple of the next few.

Sure, even seemingly "safe" coaches can have a bad streak and we don't know what will happen if Mainz really struggles to score points.
So far, Mainz will face in the next matches:

- Eintracht Frankfurt (H) (important Derby)
- Werder Bremen (A)
- Stuttgart (H)
- Augsburg (A)

These are all games, where Mainz can expect at least a draw and overally bad results in these games could indeed start a coach discussion for Bo Svenson.
If Mainz really hits a bad streak, the only question might be if another team will be faster. 

[mv1986]

I am counting on another bad streak... 5L 1D in last 6 games, I suspect 4 more bad games and Bo is in real danger, especially as they should be expected to win a couple of the next few.

Sure, even seemingly "safe" coaches can have a bad streak and we don't know what will happen if Mainz really struggles to score points.
So far, Mainz will face in the next matches:

- Eintracht Frankfurt (H) (important Derby)
- Werder Bremen (A)
- Stuttgart (H)
- Augsburg (A)

These are all games, where Mainz can expect at least a draw and overally bad results in these games could indeed start a coach discussion for Bo Svenson.
If Mainz really hits a bad streak, the only question might be if another team will be faster. 

I went for Werder Bremen to have a quick trainer discussion as well and as you guys brought up Mainz, I think we will have a first important showdown between two of the candidates on matchday 3 when Bremen faces Mainz. Since Freiburg played so well in their first game against Hoffenheim, I don't think that Bremen will win against them on matchday 2. Maybe the game ends in a draw and then afterwards Bremen has a home game against Mainz. If Bremen does not win the game or even lose it, I am quite sure that Ole Werner is already on the brink of getting sacked. I am not that convinced that teams like Bochum or Heidenheim will have a quick discussion because they probably have realistic expectations as well. That could be different for Mainz and Bremen. Their goal isn't becoming 15th at the end of the season.

[cygan]

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I went for Werder Bremen to have a quick trainer discussion as well and as you guys brought up Mainz, I think we will have a first important showdown between two of the candidates on matchday 3 when Bremen faces Mainz. Since Freiburg played so well in their first game against Hoffenheim, I don't think that Bremen will win against them on matchday 2. Maybe the game ends in a draw and then afterwards Bremen has a home game against Mainz. If Bremen does not win the game or even lose it, I am quite sure that Ole Werner is already on the brink of getting sacked. I am not that convinced that teams like Bochum or Heidenheim will have a quick discussion because they probably have realistic expectations as well. That could be different for Mainz and Bremen. Their goal isn't becoming 15th at the end of the season.

i have a different opinion. OW fits from the mentality and from the whole being 100% to werder and the whole region and in addition the coach as well as also the club responsible persons has also a very good wire to each other. i think rather (and so i have also predicted) that vfl bochum will be the first club which will sack the coach. last season the club has sacked Thomas Reis after the 6th matchday and there they also had the same season goal as this year, to occupy at least the saving 15th place.

[buwaytress]

Interesting discussions from cygan and mv1986, I'm now beginning to see a side to Bundesliga I didn't quite see (perhaps because I miss insights from local!). 15th is bd enough for all three teams, huh. Ole, Bo, Thomas.

Bookies haven't published odds yet, too early in season but I expect we'll see flutterings come end September...

- Eintracht Frankfurt (H) (important Derby)
- Werder Bremen (A)
- Stuttgart (H)
- Augsburg (A)

These are all games, where Mainz can expect at least a draw and overally bad results in these games could indeed start a coach discussion for Bo Svenson.
If Mainz really hits a bad streak, the only question might be if another team will be faster. 

That's what I had my eye on. Now don't get me wrong, I don't wish bad things for any team Least of all Mainz -- I'm a Klopp acolyte so the link is natural and Bo actually outperforms him and Tuchel points wise, so it's cruel to do this exercise but I only made these considerations because of kicktipp's bonus question on managerial sacking ha ha

If anyone's capable of long bad streaks, it's Mainz.

[cygan]

today finally the 6 fc southampton jerseys arrived, which will be given to the first three places at the end of the season at the two bl-pools
they are now exactly the following jerseys with the following sizes:

Code:

2x fc southampton away jersey 2022/23 size L (blue)
1x fc southampton event jersey 2022/23 size M (dark green)
1x fc southampton event jersey 2022/23 size L (dark green)
1x fc southampton home jersey 2023/24 size XL (red and original boxed)
1x fc southampton away jersey 2023/24 size XL (white and original boxed)

would like to thank sportsbet.io and especially Steve for this great and generous service!

[darxiaomi]

What a beauties!, for me the most beautifull one his the home tshirt from this year, i really like it. the away one its in the second place in my opinnion and the ones from last season are strange one so you will not go unnoticed.

[Harkorede]

today finally the 6 fc southampton jerseys arrived, which will be given to the first three places at the end of the season at the two bl-pools
they are now exactly the following jerseys with the following sizes:
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would like to thank sportsbet.io and especially Steve for this great and generous service!

That's Steve doing what Steve does best, I was luck enough to get the Blue 2022/2023 last season, Thanks to him as well, but have it as a prize is just yet another show of great gesture towards these sports.

Buway beware Bullrunbro might be coming for your head on this, I don't know what to expect of myself, but you sure know what I ever competition I get in, I'll never back out without giving it my all!

[casperBGD]

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If anyone's capable of long bad streaks, it's Mainz.

if I look it correctly, two of us are the only ones thinking Mainz will suck coach first
since I already took Leipzig last season, and guess it right, chances are we will miss this season

and looking at Leipzig start against Leverkusen, I would not be surprised to see them for another bad start, although after winning Supercup, it would need a really bad start for them to repeat last season "first suck" title

[Ulven]

What a beauties!, for me the most beautifull one his the home tshirt from this year, i really like it. the away one its in the second place in my opinnion and the ones from last season are strange one so you will not go unnoticed.

It's amazing that Steve and sportsbet.io made such a kind and considerate gesture. The jersey from last season must have been a wonderful addition, and this season's collection will no doubt be just as appreciated. Take satisfaction in showing them off and wearing them! > Let's put this in the past, keep going forward, and see whether we have a chance to climb the ranking ladder there this season.

[cygan]

tomorrow the 2nd matchday starts with the game leipzig vs. stuttgart. to make sure that everyone has submitted their picks by then, here's a little reminder to the participants listed below (they haven't submitted any picks yet):

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buwaytress aka Sojourner
goodpunt
LTU_btc
Ulven
morvillz7z aka Hoody_Hoo
mv1986
Spack17
Trofo
KTChampions
vd309
casperBGD
Omikifuse
darxiaomi aka darbit
jayce aka Noobhere
seek3r aka seekah
efialtis aka BTCGOSU

[mv1986]

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I went for Werder Bremen to have a quick trainer discussion as well and as you guys brought up Mainz, I think we will have a first important showdown between two of the candidates on matchday 3 when Bremen faces Mainz. Since Freiburg played so well in their first game against Hoffenheim, I don't think that Bremen will win against them on matchday 2. Maybe the game ends in a draw and then afterwards Bremen has a home game against Mainz. If Bremen does not win the game or even lose it, I am quite sure that Ole Werner is already on the brink of getting sacked. I am not that convinced that teams like Bochum or Heidenheim will have a quick discussion because they probably have realistic expectations as well. That could be different for Mainz and Bremen. Their goal isn't becoming 15th at the end of the season.

i have a different opinion. OW fits from the mentality and from the whole being 100% to werder and the whole region and in addition the coach as well as also the club responsible persons has also a very good wire to each other. i think rather (and so i have also predicted) that vfl bochum will be the first club which will sack the coach. last season the club has sacked Thomas Reis after the 6th matchday and there they also had the same season goal as this year, to occupy at least the saving 15th place.

I agree with your reasoning and maybe I should have looked into a few more stats before picking Werder Bremen. I still think that if Bremen has a start with five or six losses, Werner will be facing tough times like everyone else would. What's definitely not in favor of my pick is Bremen's schedule because it isn't very likely that they will have a losing streak of five games or more at the beginning of this season. I didn't check the schedule before I made my picks.

But what's also interesting is this Wikipedia entry about Kohfeldt and this one about Ole Werner. When you look at the win rates, Kohfeldt had roughly 35% and Bremen held on to him for a very long time despite losing so many games. Werner has a win rate of roughly 44%, which means that he still has some wiggle room regarding the team's performances. So I'd say the only way for me to win this bonus pick is if Bremen fails inconceivably hard and messes up the early season against lower level opponents because then Bremen has to make a decision. Let the team continue against stronger teams with the same coach who messed up the beginning of the season against weaker teams? Or is it time for a change and new impulses from a new coach?

[cygan]

today the 2nd matchday in the bundesliga starts with the match rb leipzig vs. vfb stuttgart. on paper and also concerning the direct comparison a clear thing for leipzig. because this encounter has already been 10 times in the bundesliga - stuttgart could not win any of the matches and only came to two draws. last season leipzig won its home match with 2-1 against stuttgart
will it be another home win tonight or can we expect a surprise?
btw please dont forget to submit your picks...

[Trofo]

will it be another home win tonight or can we expect a surprise?
btw please dont forget to submit your picks...

As long as there is goals on both sides I am happy, you all already know what my pick is for the game 

Leipzig is closer to win for sure but I don't think they will have it easy. Stuttgart has some firepower and I believe they will try to use it rather then defend and wait for the inevitable Leipzig goal(s)

[KTChampions]

today finally the 6 fc southampton jerseys arrived, which will be given to the first three places at the end of the season at the two bl-pools
they are now exactly the following jerseys with the following sizes:

Code:

2x fc southampton away jersey 2022/23 size L (blue)
1x fc southampton event jersey 2022/23 size M (dark green)
1x fc southampton event jersey 2022/23 size L (dark green)
1x fc southampton home jersey 2023/24 size XL (red and original boxed)
1x fc southampton away jersey 2023/24 size XL (white and original boxed)

would like to thank sportsbet.io and especially Steve for this great and generous service!

Nice jerseys! 
If by the end of the season I am close to the prize, I will have to change my country of residence 

As long as there is goals on both sides I am happy, you all already know what my pick is for the game 
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You really like to bet on BTTS, but since you love to do it so much, I want to ask - have you tried to somehow maximize your chances of winning? For example, place a bet after the first 10 minutes of the game (when the goal has not yet been scored and the odds have grown?).

[casperBGD]

Stuttgart looked as a team that stood chances to leave Leipzig with something in their pockets, but as they lost all strength in the end, or Leipzig just put their attack on target, finished 5:1
9/11 shots on target in second half for Leipzig, didn't that good statistics lately

Heidenheim has their home pitch debuts in Bundesliga today

[cygan]

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Leipzig just put their attack on target, finished 5:1
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what is also very interesting and should be noted, that in yesterday's 5-1 victory of leipzig there were 5 different scorers. this also shows that rbl is well positioned in the offense and is then more difficult to count on

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Heidenheim has their home pitch debuts in Bundesliga today

exactly and the opponent is called tsg hoffenheim... maybe here is a little surprise in it

[cygan]

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So I'd say the only way for me to win this bonus pick is if Bremen fails inconceivably hard and messes up the early season against lower level opponents because then Bremen has to make a decision. Let the team continue against stronger teams with the same coach who messed up the beginning of the season against weaker teams? Or is it time for a change and new impulses from a new coach?

so i could even bet that OW won't be the first coach to be sacked this season.
after yesterday's results, i also see my personal bonus pick with the coach of vfl bochum at risk. because if bor. mönchengladbach continues like this (as in the first two matchdays) i see Gerardo Seoane more at risk than any other coach.

[Betwrong]

today finally the 6 fc southampton jerseys arrived, which will be given to the first three places at the end of the season at the two bl-pools
they are now exactly the following jerseys with the following sizes:

Code:

2x fc southampton away jersey 2022/23 size L (blue)
1x fc southampton event jersey 2022/23 size M (dark green)
1x fc southampton event jersey 2022/23 size L (dark green)
1x fc southampton home jersey 2023/24 size XL (red and original boxed)
1x fc southampton away jersey 2023/24 size XL (white and original boxed)

would like to thank sportsbet.io and especially Steve for this great and generous service!

Nice jerseys!  
If by the end of the season I am close to the prize, I will have to change my country of residence  
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I'm telling you man, it's worth it. I've got three of them similar jerseys from other Sportsbet.io competitions, and been using them for more than a year for working out, and what can I say, they are amazing! It's not only the looks, it's the quality of the material, it's top of the top. Win them and change your country of residence to where you'll live happily ever after. I wish that for you, mate.

[Little Mouse]

I had never played in kicktipp and I'm disappointed now lol.
Well, it's not for me only. The point system is applied to everyone but still it really not a good one in my opinion. Let me share why I think so.

Today, in the match between Bayern and Augsburg, the result is 3-1. I picked 4-1, so basically, I had a close call and the difference was only 1 goal.
I got 2 points from the match. While whoever has predicted 2-0, has got 3 points. A prediction of 2-0 while the result is 3-1, is a difference of 2 goals. I don't know how they calculate lol. Again, just saying I did not like but it's fine as applied for all 

Code:

1x fc southampton event jersey 2022/23 size M (dark green)

If I win one, can I book this M size  I know this will still be bigger for me as M size in Bangladesh is smaller than this.
Anyway, these look good. Thanks to SB.