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July 28, 2023, 09:19:30 PM
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As long as we stick to our limitations, gambling is not a bad thing to do. But when it comes to the moment that we are spending more time and money, that was a sign that we are close to addiction. Addiction was not enjoyable anymore, we can never feel happiness if we win but what is on our minds is to win more - greediness had come. And the more we chase to win, the opposite things happen and we lose more. It is really all about proper budgeting which most gamblers fail to follow.

We agree with what you say, but basically everything we do is of our own free will. gambling, can be fun entertainment and at the same time we can make it part of relaxation. but on the contrary, as you said, when we have become addicted to gambling it is no longer fun as entertainment.

That's why, it's very important if we have an understanding and definition of gambling for ourselves. in order for us to avoid things that are addictive, we must have self-control. that's why, we have to realize that all our actions are on our will and awareness. which means, we must control ourselves and involve full awareness in each of our actions, especially those related to gambling. this idea, should be applied by gamblers. Unfortunately, in practice we tend to be powerless to resist our high desires and emotional desires. let's connect with the theme of the title of this thread, that this idea we can combine with carefully played gambling.

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July 28, 2023, 09:22:14 PM
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Let's accept the fact that gambling is truly addicting and makes us crave for more because that's the mechanics of gambling, we risk something and then we gain or lose. As what I am always telling people, we should always gamble responsibly because it involves MONEY. Know your limits, set boundaries, and if possible try to budget your money and only set a certain amount of money for gambling.
The only way we can gamble responsibly is when we believe or have the data of our gambling expenditures at hand or make a provision of money for gambling, losing is paramount in gambling and whosoever that is gambling should know what is gambling for and also have in mind that gambling can be fail at any point in time without hesitation, so therefore budget in gambling is necessary expect that you want to be gambling addict before you can refutes having gambling budget, I have seen that many people is against having budget in gambling

It is important to have that allocation and make sure that you are strict in handling your finances. It's true that gambling is
addicted without the right control of both your money and emotions.

The chance of losing lots of money is something that you needed to avoid, and by having that particular amount of money to use for
this activity can lessen the chance getting addicted and regret after.

You should have that control at any moment of time when you are dealing with gambling, else it's dangerous for you to continue.
I thank God many of you have checked out the reason behind my point because in gambling what makes some people to be addicted in gambling is because they don't have budget in gambling and the statistics of their expenditures and income in gambling and if they should keep record of the gambling stakes, nobody will like to be addicted in gambling, because some times I think that gambling do make some people to lose focus when they are not benefiting or profiting in gambling and it will make them to forget any other carrier and continously playing gamble,so with budget in gambling some people will realize themselves

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July 28, 2023, 09:28:06 PM
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And indeed, that is the reality that we must accept so that we don't become addicted to gambling. We can only risk the money we can afford so we don't have to take excessive risks and experience too many losses. If we can do it well, gambling will not be able to tempt us because we can spend money well and without having to experience gambling addiction like other gamblers. Setting limits and trying to maintain those limits is an important thing that should not be forgotten so that we don't experience big losses and also avoid gambling addiction.
But in fact many gamblers lose control even if they set a spending limit on the gambling budget. The average gambler gets addicted and forgets that they have ruined their own plans for fun, that's because the orientation of their game has changed to multiply money with wins.

I agree because there are lots of factor to keep a player gambling.  They are, the desire to win huge amount, to chase losses, to entertain oneself.  Among these people who can't accept losses and wanted to fill his ego that he will beat the house will also try to win and keep on gambling until he got his target result or emptied his bankroll.  The worst is that being controlled by greed because with this thing controlling us, there is no stopping since greed can't be satisfied.

It is not easy to control yourself and your passion for gambling especially if you start thinking that you will win x amount on the next try, it is a temptation that often makes gamblers lose more money. Some will chase wins to cover their losses, but most still fail. So in conclusion, gambling is a game where you run the risk of losing money, so gamble as much as you can afford to lose and don't gamble for money.

For a person that has weak will and tendency to get addicted, to control oneself is really hard but those who have strong will and naturally developed a self-discipline, this kind of  self-control is easy for them.
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July 28, 2023, 09:32:52 PM
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People don't have statistics to play gamble and that is why some of the gambling enthusiasm do experience (shege in gambling... meaning much loses in a gambling) so it's good for gamblers to know a specific amount that should go out in their wallet weekly or monthly.

When you check the statistics of who is on constant gambling of different kind of gambling either casino, poker game and other gambling games, should check the funds that goes out of them monthly because of gambling and they funds they received in a month and annually in gambling if they are of the same amount.

If we planned our gambling bet we should not be going crazy after when we have not meet up our target in gambling, what i expected every gambler is to make table of how much should be spend in gambling and how much should go investment, because money we loses in gambling continuously if we gather it together it will sum up to start a little business. I'm say play gamble with experience, don't use all you have for casino gambling

If we talk about ordinary gamblers (and not those who spend all their money on gambling), then I don’t see anything wrong with such expenses. If people make such spending, then they are probably satisfied with the entertainment they receive in return. And all these theories where annual expenses are calculated (oh my God, how great they are) are not much different from the theories about the fact that you need to save on street coffee and save money, and at the end of the year it will amount to a decent amount.

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July 28, 2023, 09:40:49 PM
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If we planned our gambling bet we should not be going crazy after when we have not meet up our target in gambling, what i expected every gambler is to make table of how much should be spend in gambling and how much should go investment, because money we loses in gambling continuously if we gather it together it will sum up to start a little business. I'm say play gamble with experience, don't use all you have for casino gambling

If we show that we are unable to plan well how we should gamble and get the best desired results from it, gambling itself will take over and plan itself for us, but we may not like the way we may landed with such opinion because not what we expect may come forth in that, we have to learn how to enroll on a coordinate gambling lifestyle and have different experience from what others have which is not common, we should gamble at the best time to do that, engage in doing other things in life at their appropriate time as well and give each aspect the priority they deserve without one being affected for the other.

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July 28, 2023, 11:14:42 PM
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We do always get a lot of that reminders but we have no idea if many of the readers do follow that are experiencing severe gambling. And a gambler will always be aware of how much he starts to gamble but when the feeling is intense, he'll never know how much he's been losing because his mind is also losing because of the emotional trigger that gambling gives to anyone. So you get the idea of those gamblers that are reminded but then, still forgets to follow these tips.

In my opinion, it is actually worse if a gambler who is addicted continues to keep track of his losses and chases them, because that encourages him to further gamble to recover all that money and also can translate to severe problems at a mental level, like depression, anxiety and feelings of loneliness.

If one is addicted to gambling, the best course of action is to forget about that money and seek professional help before it gets even worse. Having family who cares about them also helps a lot.
And we know that a gambler that chases his losses will end up with a bad result. Too many stories that have been told that each gambler that won't stop will have the same ending as the others that have ended with a failure and disappointment. I think every gambler is aware of that if they won't stop but, it just so happen that stopping is a hard thing to do when you're attached and invested to your activity and had dedicated a lot of time on it.

That's no longer part of our problem I guess. There's no need to force them to be responsible. That's their money and they have full responsibility of it. It is just tiring to see them cry and regret things once they reach the bottom, then blaming other people why such thing happened. Sometimes a lesson learned would be a bit expensive.
Yes, although we don't have anything to do with it and that's their own personal issue and responsibility. But sometimes we also have that feeling that we need to give them some care if they're doing the wrong thing and it's visible in our naked eyes. But you're right that if the same thing keeps on happening again and again and there's no improvement, much better to just leave it there.

To be fair, I have seen some successful stories when a gambler goes after their losses in a so-called "revenge gambling" spree. They have claimed to recover their money and even getting some additional winnings.

Though, even those those are cases of success, eventually the revenge gambling will inevitably end up in what you have described: a long downfall into a spiral of disappointed and loss of money.

In the worst case scenario, those stories could encourage others to do the same, it is easy to leave greed to take over one's mind.

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July 28, 2023, 11:22:33 PM
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When it comes to gambling, it is all about luck. When you're lucky even the worst prediction you make will bring you money. The bad part you'll endup losing everything even when you're 100% sure on your prediction but you don't have the luck. From my understanding whatever the care we take and have statistics we'll fail if we don't have the luck. For this reason some limits being set for the day/week/month as suggested by the OP seems to be the better choice.

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We do always get a lot of that reminders but we have no idea if many of the readers do follow that are experiencing severe gambling. And a gambler will always be aware of how much he starts to gamble but when the feeling is intense, he'll never know how much he's been losing because his mind is also losing because of the emotional trigger that gambling gives to anyone. So you get the idea of those gamblers that are reminded but then, still forgets to follow these tips.

In my opinion, it is actually worse if a gambler who is addicted continues to keep track of his losses and chases them, because that encourages him to further gamble to recover all that money and also can translate to severe problems at a mental level, like depression, anxiety and feelings of loneliness.

If one is addicted to gambling, the best course of action is to forget about that money and seek professional help before it gets even worse. Having family who cares about them also helps a lot.
And we know that a gambler that chases his losses will end up with a bad result. Too many stories that have been told that each gambler that won't stop will have the same ending as the others that have ended with a failure and disappointment. I think every gambler is aware of that if they won't stop but, it just so happen that stopping is a hard thing to do when you're attached and invested to your activity and had dedicated a lot of time on it.

That's no longer part of our problem I guess. There's no need to force them to be responsible. That's their money and they have full responsibility of it. It is just tiring to see them cry and regret things once they reach the bottom, then blaming other people why such thing happened. Sometimes a lesson learned would be a bit expensive.
Yes, although we don't have anything to do with it and that's their own personal issue and responsibility. But sometimes we also have that feeling that we need to give them some care if they're doing the wrong thing and it's visible in our naked eyes. But you're right that if the same thing keeps on happening again and again and there's no improvement, much better to just leave it there.

To be fair, I have seen some successful stories when a gambler goes after their losses in a so-called "revenge gambling" spree. They have claimed to recover their money and even getting some additional winnings.

Though, even those those are cases of success, eventually the revenge gambling will inevitably end up in what you have described: a long downfall into a spiral of disappointed and loss of money.

In the worst case scenario, those stories could encourage others to do the same, it is easy to leave greed to take over one's mind.

This kind of story is possible, winning more than the lost amount after chasing losses.  But the key point here is to know when to stop.  If the one taking a revenge gambling does not know when to stop then all his effort will be in vain because his recovered money plus the extra winnings will eventually lost if he failed to quit in the right time.

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July 28, 2023, 11:54:07 PM
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We do always get a lot of that reminders but we have no idea if many of the readers do follow that are experiencing severe gambling. And a gambler will always be aware of how much he starts to gamble but when the feeling is intense, he'll never know how much he's been losing because his mind is also losing because of the emotional trigger that gambling gives to anyone. So you get the idea of those gamblers that are reminded but then, still forgets to follow these tips.

In my opinion, it is actually worse if a gambler who is addicted continues to keep track of his losses and chases them, because that encourages him to further gamble to recover all that money and also can translate to severe problems at a mental level, like depression, anxiety and feelings of loneliness.

If one is addicted to gambling, the best course of action is to forget about that money and seek professional help before it gets even worse. Having family who cares about them also helps a lot.
And we know that a gambler that chases his losses will end up with a bad result. Too many stories that have been told that each gambler that won't stop will have the same ending as the others that have ended with a failure and disappointment. I think every gambler is aware of that if they won't stop but, it just so happen that stopping is a hard thing to do when you're attached and invested to your activity and had dedicated a lot of time on it.

That's no longer part of our problem I guess. There's no need to force them to be responsible. That's their money and they have full responsibility of it. It is just tiring to see them cry and regret things once they reach the bottom, then blaming other people why such thing happened. Sometimes a lesson learned would be a bit expensive.
Yes, although we don't have anything to do with it and that's their own personal issue and responsibility. But sometimes we also have that feeling that we need to give them some care if they're doing the wrong thing and it's visible in our naked eyes. But you're right that if the same thing keeps on happening again and again and there's no improvement, much better to just leave it there.

To be fair, I have seen some successful stories when a gambler goes after their losses in a so-called "revenge gambling" spree. They have claimed to recover their money and even getting some additional winnings.

Though, even those those are cases of success, eventually the revenge gambling will inevitably end up in what you have described: a long downfall into a spiral of disappointed and loss of money.

In the worst case scenario, those stories could encourage others to do the same, it is easy to leave greed to take over one's mind.

This kind of story is possible, winning more than the lost amount after chasing losses.  But the key point here is to know when to stop.  If the one taking a revenge gambling does not know when to stop then all his effort will be in vain because his recovered money plus the extra winnings will eventually lost if he failed to quit in the right time.

I am not even sure if there is actually a "right time" to stop ones gambling session, I believe the concept of the "right time" is easier and more suitable for trading than glambing.

Because the concept is linked to the assumption there is a top and a bottom of ones potential wins or losses, and while this is true when we talk of markets, in gambling there is nothing certain, the top and the bottom could be next to each other.  That in trading is very unlikely.

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July 28, 2023, 11:59:25 PM
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Let's accept the fact that gambling is truly addicting and makes us crave for more because that's the mechanics of gambling, we risk something and then we gain or lose. As what I am always telling people, we should always gamble responsibly because it involves MONEY. Know your limits, set boundaries, and if possible try to budget your money and only set a certain amount of money for gambling.
The only way we can gamble responsibly is when we believe or have the data of our gambling expenditures at hand or make a provision of money for gambling, losing is paramount in gambling and whosoever that is gambling should know what is gambling for and also have in mind that gambling can be fail at any point in time without hesitation, so therefore budget in gambling is necessary expect that you want to be gambling addict before you can refutes having gambling budget, I have seen that many people is against having budget in gambling

It is important to have that allocation and make sure that you are strict in handling your finances. It's true that gambling is
addicted without the right control of both your money and emotions.

The chance of losing lots of money is something that you needed to avoid, and by having that particular amount of money to use for
this activity can lessen the chance getting addicted and regret after.

You should have that control at any moment of time when you are dealing with gambling, else it's dangerous for you to continue.
I thank God many of you have checked out the reason behind my point because in gambling what makes some people to be addicted in gambling is because they don't have budget in gambling and the statistics of their expenditures and income in gambling and if they should keep record of the gambling stakes, nobody will like to be addicted in gambling, because some times I think that gambling do make some people to lose focus when they are not benefiting or profiting in gambling and it will make them to forget any other carrier and continously playing gamble,so with budget in gambling some people will realize themselves
Gambling is for entertainment and as long you do have this kind of motive in your mind then you wont really be finding yourself on big trouble but instead you would really be that safe when it comes
to addiction because you arent treating gambling as a main source of income on which this had been the primary mistake of most people on why they do really mess up entirely when doing gambling.
As long you do have this kind of treatment or impression towards gambling then you wont really be finding yourself on a hard situation just because of wrong assumptions  and beliefs towards gambling.
People would usually fall into addiction on the time that they would really be making out those actions on trying out to pursue their targets on making gambling and being profitable or being that a winner on which we know that it is really that impossible on having this kind of situation because gambling does heavily purely relying on luck.

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July 29, 2023, 02:00:43 AM
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If we planned our gambling bet we should not be going crazy after when we have not meet up our target in gambling, what i expected every gambler is to make table of how much should be spend in gambling and how much should go investment, because money we loses in gambling continuously if we gather it together it will sum up to start a little business. I'm say play gamble with experience, don't use all you have for casino gambling

You can't just simply say that gamblers should go that way. Gamblers have different approaches to gambling.

There are already lots of advice, suggestions, and recommendations on how to deal properly with gambling but still, the worst experiences occur because, after all, "gambling wouldn't be called gambling" in the first place if everything will be smooth here regardless if the gambler will play with care or not.

For me just allow these gamblers to feel the worst in gambling. That will help them how to deal properly with gambling in the long run.

It's either they will learn from it or will become sh*t later on.

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July 29, 2023, 05:02:24 AM
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If we planned our gambling bet we should not be going crazy after when we have not meet up our target in gambling, what i expected every gambler is to make table of how much should be spend in gambling and how much should go investment, because money we loses in gambling continuously if we gather it together it will sum up to start a little business. I'm say play gamble with experience, don't use all you have for casino gambling

If we show that we are unable to plan well how we should gamble and get the best desired results from it, gambling itself will take over and plan itself for us, but we may not like the way we may landed with such opinion because not what we expect may come forth in that, we have to learn how to enroll on a coordinate gambling lifestyle and have different experience from what others have which is not common, we should gamble at the best time to do that, engage in doing other things in life at their appropriate time as well and give each aspect the priority they deserve without one being affected for the other.
Planning is good in gambling so before trying to win, it is essential to do research so you know what you are getting into. Without this knowledge, chances are high that you will not only lose the money you are gambling with, you will not understand the rules of gambling. Don't just pick a game, and expect to win when you play, bettors need to know game volatility wagering flashing and more. This knowledge will give some edge and set you up to win also a quick Google search will help get you back on track.

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July 29, 2023, 05:37:41 AM
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someone who plays gambling he must know the expenses he will use, don't waste too much of your money because of gambling addiction. we play gambling must be disciplined and responsible because if we are not thorough and careful then problems will come to us.
what we need to remember is that we are gamblers, don't be too greedy because greed will harm ourselves and that is not very good.

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July 29, 2023, 08:21:25 AM
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And we know that a gambler that chases his losses will end up with a bad result. Too many stories that have been told that each gambler that won't stop will have the same ending as the others that have ended with a failure and disappointment. I think every gambler is aware of that if they won't stop but, it just so happen that stopping is a hard thing to do when you're attached and invested to your activity and had dedicated a lot of time on it.

To be fair, I have seen some successful stories when a gambler goes after their losses in a so-called "revenge gambling" spree. They have claimed to recover their money and even getting some additional winnings.

Though, even those those are cases of success, eventually the revenge gambling will inevitably end up in what you have described: a long downfall into a spiral of disappointed and loss of money.
There's possibility that a very few gamblers will have their revenge gambling happen successfully. But this isn't for everyone, it happens rarely, and the typical result that we see is when most of them have that disappointment and you're right that aside from that, losing more money.

In the worst case scenario, those stories could encourage others to do the same, it is easy to leave greed to take over one's mind.
True to that and that's going to give them more idea that they should go for it. And have the basic mindset that, if that happens to the other gamblers and they have successfully recovered, what is it for them for not trying since they're already losing?

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July 29, 2023, 08:52:49 AM
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someone who plays gambling he must know the expenses he will use, don't waste too much of your money because of gambling addiction. we play gambling must be disciplined and responsible because if we are not thorough and careful then problems will come to us.
what we need to remember is that we are gamblers, don't be too greedy because greed will harm ourselves and that is not very good.
Actually it's more easy to say than done but when you're in the situation that you're somehow addicted to it, I think that's a different story. I think those who stay discipline are either on the breakeven of what they gambled or they are winning but I do think that they are just few out there.
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But in fact many gamblers lose control even if they set a spending limit on the gambling budget. The average gambler gets addicted and forgets that they have ruined their own plans for fun, that's because the orientation of their game has changed to multiply money with wins.

It is not easy to control yourself and your passion for gambling especially if you start thinking that you will win x amount on the next try, it is a temptation that often makes gamblers lose more money. Some will chase wins to cover their losses, but most still fail. So in conclusion, gambling is a game where you run the risk of losing money, so gamble as much as you can afford to lose and don't gamble for money.
Because they don't have good self-control, they lose control and end up going over the gambling budget. Especially if they can have fun while playing gambling so they can lose control of gambling, we may have experienced this before, so we experience more defeats than usual.

Only by continuing to learn to control ourselves can we do so that we can stay on the right track where we can manage the money we use for gambling. And the temptation of gambling indeed is what often makes us forget to take care of ourselves and not exceed the budget limit for gambling. And don't forget to use the money you can afford to gamble so that if you lose that money, you won't be too sad because you already know the risks.

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If we planned our gambling bet we should not be going crazy after when we have not meet up our target in gambling, what i expected every gambler is to make table of how much should be spend in gambling and how much should go investment, because money we loses in gambling continuously if we gather it together it will sum up to start a little business. I'm say play gamble with experience, don't use all you have for casino gambling

If we show that we are unable to plan well how we should gamble and get the best desired results from it, gambling itself will take over and plan itself for us, but we may not like the way we may landed with such opinion because not what we expect may come forth in that, we have to learn how to enroll on a coordinate gambling lifestyle and have different experience from what others have which is not common, we should gamble at the best time to do that, engage in doing other things in life at their appropriate time as well and give each aspect the priority they deserve without one being affected for the other.
Even if I do not have all the experiences of gambling myself, I have lived in a place where 70% of the male adults are gamblers and I can assure you, I know quite well how they behave and how addiction happens.
The best way to avoid addiction is not to be very interested in the gambling business.
The more you are very concerned about it, it will be very difficult to leave it.
So, the best thing to do is to follow it up as a fun and not a source of income, by so doing you have other things that will consume the majority of your time.

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July 29, 2023, 10:52:28 AM
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someone who plays gambling he must know the expenses he will use, don't waste too much of your money because of gambling addiction. we play gambling must be disciplined and responsible because if we are not thorough and careful then problems will come to us.
what we need to remember is that we are gamblers, don't be too greedy because greed will harm ourselves and that is not very good.
Actually it's more easy to say than done but when you're in the situation that you're somehow addicted to it, I think that's a different story. I think those who stay discipline are either on the breakeven of what they gambled or they are winning but I do think that they are just few out there.

I would rule out such persons making a constant win throughout the year,otherwise this people would be on the increase,other gamblers would have done the same and since we are seeing the break even as the highest achievement for people who continuously gamble that means that being in profit constantly through gambling is impossible,even in games where skill is more relevant than luck,one dose of bad luck and all your wins are out of the way here also.

I think plan all you want but if you don't stick religiously to it then it won't have any real effect,we will be still struggling and losing in the long term against the casinos.

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July 29, 2023, 10:57:10 AM
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If we planned our gambling bet we should not be going crazy after when we have not meet up our target in gambling,

Is this even possible? Even newbie or experienced gamblers I doubt won't go crazy if they can't meet their respective targets.

Then why do they gamble in the first place if not expecting something in return?

Plan our gambling? It doesn't make sense to do. Just keep ourselves disciplined and know our limits.
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If we planned our gambling bet we should not be going crazy after when we have not meet up our target in gambling,

Is this even possible? Even newbie or experienced gamblers I doubt won't go crazy if they can't meet their respective targets.

Then why do they gamble in the first place if not expecting something in return?

Plan our gambling? It doesn't make sense to do. Just keep ourselves disciplined and know our limits.
The reason why you are sounding this way is that people who gamble never complained to your hearing how they expected to win a gambling and what they budgeted with the money they suppose win in a gambling, many people go crazy after they did not win in gambling because all their hope is that they will win in gambling and when you look at those set of gamblers you can note that they are desperate in the gambling, what I know is that gambling is all about risk and is not what to depend on. but I don't know people that plays gambling but people around me always complain of their lost.

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