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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts. Yeah, it's all available in here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/741718While bookies are made Haney as the favorite, it doesn't guarantee he will win and will become a champion. All his fights probably are won easily by him but pause of a moment and see who own's this division.. It's Prograis, he is the defending champion, so being an underdog is probably a great opportunity to bet on. Actually, there's only two possible outcome we could see, either Haney winning via UD or Prograis will via KO. This is a new division for Haney, and he is fighting one of the division's champion which is Prograis. And that's why there are so much hype in this fight as Haney is coming up in weight and trying to let's say bully the new division by fighting one of the toughest champion. And then odd makers putting the champion as the underdog at 3:1. And then Prograis highlighting that he is going to knockout Devin Haney with his power, but Haney will rely on his boxing IQ or his defensive skills. So I believed as what you say, either Haney by decision or Prograis via brutal KO. I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.
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December 09, 2023, 11:24:13 AM |
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I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.
I hope he can, he is highly motivated based on what we saw on their face off he really hates Haney, but that's what Haney wants you to feel, to hate him so he can use that hate against you, we have seen that happened on many of his matches, especially on Kambosos, he just waited for Kambosos to pour so he can counter. We have a saying style makes a fight, even though Haney is the challenger I don't think will bring the fight to Prograis, only if he sees that he can take Prograis fight. For Prograis to win he should dominate the early rounds or knock him out because Haney is good at accumulating points, especially in the latter or championship rounds, he should take the fight to Haney and try to take away Haney's game of hit and run. For Haney to win, he will just wait for Prograis to make mistakes and pile up a lot of points Haney may be a boring fighter but his style is guaranteed to win the fight
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I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.
I hope he can, he is highly motivated based on what we saw on their face off he really hates Haney, but that's what Haney wants you to feel, to hate him so he can use that hate against you, we have seen that happened on many of his matches, especially on Kambosos, he just waited for Kambosos to pour so he can counter. We have a saying style makes a fight, even though Haney is the challenger I don't think will bring the fight to Prograis, only if he sees that he can take Prograis fight. For Prograis to win he should dominate the early rounds or knock him out because Haney is good at accumulating points, especially in the latter or championship rounds, he should take the fight to Haney and try to take away Haney's game of hit and run. For Haney to win, he will just wait for Prograis to make mistakes and pile up a lot of points Haney may be a boring fighter but his style is guaranteed to win the fight Perhaps the hatred is really real, or these boxers are just using it for motivation or like a psyche war, if Haney can get into Prograis head then he might have the edge when the fight begins because all Regis think is to go there and put Haney to sleep. But as we know, Haney uses skills to evade punches, so those early rounds will be crucial for Regis to touch Haney and let him feel his power. I think that's what happen with Haney vs Linares, Jorge almost got Haney early and almost knock him down. But Haney was able to withstand those early rounds and then win the fight by decision. So let's see what will be the strategy of Prograis and his camp in this fight, it seems that they are really eager to get into the ring and beat up Haney.
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December 09, 2023, 01:15:29 PM |
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Perhaps the hatred is really real, or these boxers are just using it for motivation or like a psyche war, if Haney can get into Prograis head then he might have the edge when the fight begins because all Regis think is to go there and put Haney to sleep. But as we know, Haney uses skills to evade punches, so those early rounds will be crucial for Regis to touch Haney and let him feel his power.
I think that's what happen with Haney vs Linares, Jorge almost got Haney early and almost knock him down. But Haney was able to withstand those early rounds and then win the fight by decision. So let's see what will be the strategy of Prograis and his camp in this fight, it seems that they are really eager to get into the ring and beat up Haney.
Prograis can take a beating I have seen him take a beating against Zepeda and he managed to knock out Zepeda he can bring that kind of game to Haney then he has a chance to win, Prograis should take a chance because, between the two, Prograis is the bigger puncher he just need to negotiate the distance, Haney will always run and make his opponent pay for every mistake. Prograis should be very aggressive so he can take off Haney's defense, Haney's defense seems impenetrable let's see if Prograis can solve that puzzle.
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It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.
However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.
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December 10, 2023, 02:35:57 AM |
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It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.
However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.
Haney is the challenger here mate and his debut for the 140 lbs division, that may be the reason of that odds but i do hope that Haney would not wear his running shoes so we could see the full potential of Prograis. Clinching and running, though part of the game, this would not make Haney a sellable fighter in the higher division.
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December 10, 2023, 02:37:58 AM |
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It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.
However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.
Regis knows what the odds are, but according to him, it doesn't matter, “It don’t insult me or motivate me,” Prograis told BoxingScene.com. “I’m self-motivated, so like for me, I just don’t worry about that. I don’t worry about the outside world. It don’t matter. I already beat the odds. Look where I’m at right now. I beat the odds already, so this little 4-1, that’s nothing for me.” https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-i-beat-odds-already-this-little-4-1-on-haney-fight-s-nothing-me--179879So he is using this as motivate on this fight. You can have to check him out mate, he has a lot of his fights in Youtube and a champion here at 140 lbs and this is his territory. But his performance the last time was in question, and maybe this is the reason why odds maker are putting him as a huge underdog in this fight.
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December 10, 2023, 02:42:00 AM |
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It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.
However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.
Regis knows what the odds are, but according to him, it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter for him because he already know he'll be the favorite. I hope he would not underestimate Prograis here, the kind of trashtalking they has to make this fight entertaining, I mean, Prograis should be more aggressive, and try to give pressue to Haney who is the defensive fighter. can't wait. “It don’t insult me or motivate me,” Prograis told BoxingScene.com. “I’m self-motivated, so like for me, I just don’t worry about that. I don’t worry about the outside world. It don’t matter. I already beat the odds. Look where I’m at right now. I beat the odds already, so this little 4-1, that’s nothing for me.” https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-i-beat-odds-already-this-little-4-1-on-haney-fight-s-nothing-me--179879So he is using this as motivate on this fight. You can have to check him out mate, he has a lot of his fights in Youtube and a champion here at 140 lbs and this is his territory. But his performance the last time was in question, and maybe this is the reason why odds maker are putting him as a huge underdog in this fight. This is boxing, it's entertainment, whatever words that came into their mouth are probably just part of the marketing, you know, more people watching more money for thme, so they'll make everything to create a buzz. However, if it does motivate Prograis, then I guess we shall see.
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It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.
However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.
Haney is the challenger here mate and his debut for the 140 lbs division, that may be the reason of that odds but i do hope that Haney would not wear his running shoes so we could see the full potential of Prograis. Clinching and running, though part of the game, this would not make Haney a sellable fighter in the higher division. I was not very convinced on Haney before the first fight against Kambosos, however, after witnessing a victory in Australia and defending his champioship vs. Lomachenko, I reckon the 5 pound difference might not matter very much for this fight. Also, Haney is very young and growing, I am quite certain that 140 pounds will not be his last weight division. Haney is also taller than Prograis and has a longer reach. It can be argued that this super lightweight division might presently be the right one for him.
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Prograis got knock down in the 3rd round, damn, Haney is fun to watch now, he is dictating the fight. Prograis trying to throw some jab but he ain't hitting, if he cannot hurt Haney, I'd say this would end like an easy win for Haney if it goes to distance, but there's a possibility that Prograis will be knock out as he looks tired even this early.
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@Japinat. Agreed! He is much stronger in this higher weight division, however, he did not lose his speed and stamina. There are boxers who lose some stamina because of the heavier weight. But as I mentioned already, Devin Haney is young and growing. This is certainly not his real weight division. He will go heavier and he might be champion in 2 more divisions.
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December 10, 2023, 05:00:02 AM |
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@Japinat. Agreed! He is much stronger in this higher weight division, however, he did not lose his speed and stamina. There are boxers who lose some stamina because of the heavier weight. But as I mentioned already, Devin Haney is young and growing. This is certainly not his real weight division. He will go heavier and he might be champion in 2 more divisions.
This is probably the best fight for Haney that I've witnessed, he was dominating this fight and I doubt Prograis even won a single round. The fight is over, I didn't wait for the decision as it's very obvious Haney will be declared as the winner via unanimous decision. Welcome to our new Champ, and congratulations to the bettors who won betting on Haney to in outright or via decision.
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@bbc.reporter, you are right, should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.
So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?
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December 10, 2023, 05:06:25 AM |
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Prograis is just all hype Haney controls everything in this fight he controls the pace and the distance, Prograis shows nothing it's all Haney all night its a complete dominance and shut off Prograis did not even win a single round, this is one of the easiest fights for Haney, I'm surprised how the fight turned out to be. Prograis is not here in this fight or Haney is just too good against Prograis.
Official scores are 120-107, 120-107, and 120-107.
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December 10, 2023, 05:39:47 AM |
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Haney was brilliant at exploiting Prograis' weakness. We saw in Prograis' last fight that against technical fighters he looks terrible because he is one dimensional. He has power but he is slow, lacks defense and doesn't move well. Stylistically, it was the worst possible opponent he could have faced. Without the usual aggressiveness from Prograis, Haney was able to cruise to a comfortable shutout decision. So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?
Shakur hurt his value with his last fight. If he wants that fight he is going to have to chase Haney to 140 or 147 and will have to settle with taking a smaller percentage than what he feels he is worth. Ryan is even more limited than Prograis. Not only will he get dominated but he might get knocked out.
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December 10, 2023, 05:56:22 AM |
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This is way too easy for Haney, I thought it was going to be a 50/50 fight, but Haney made it like another day in the office, it is a routine fight, nothing special he just does the things that people used to see him doing, but unfortunately Prograis did not do his assignment it is expected that he will do an adjustment and but he just stands there waiting to counter but Haney was just too fast and too accurate, both fighters have been through a lot of great fights but Haney made Prograis an amateur. So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?
I'm seeing the result like what we've seen today if he meets any one of these guys because they are not spectacular to counter Haney's move, I like to see Haney against Tank, that's the fight that will look even.
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December 10, 2023, 06:36:52 AM |
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should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.
Not only on the footwork, he was hesitant because he respected the power of Haney when he got knocked out in the 3rd round. What we saw was a masterclass of Haney, this isn't the only division he'll stop, he'll go further for sure as he knows how to carry his power and speed when moving up. So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?
I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.
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December 10, 2023, 07:16:01 AM |
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So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?
I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight. Same here, we need a fighter that could match Haney's power and speed. I think Ryan has learned a new defensive strategy as what he showcased during his last fight, so I guess he's ready to fight Haney. However, if the fight would happen, I'm sure Ryan will be the underdog as Haney just showed what an exeptional boxer is, even Shakur would unlikely to beat Haney.
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December 10, 2023, 07:55:28 AM |
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@bbc.reporter, you are right, should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.
So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?
Tank Davis would be the best option for Haney, Tank should move up in 140 lbs and then fight Haney for the belt. Davis has been protected by his handlers for many years and it's about time for him to really step up the plate and fight a champion. Shakur is a full fledge 135 lbs, and I don't see that Haney going back down to that weight class anymore. He has vacated all his belt and I think he will campaign at 140 lbs moving forward. So money fight at 140 lbs for Haney is Tank Davis.
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December 10, 2023, 08:05:33 AM |
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I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.
I remember Haney wanting to fight Ryan but the Golden Boy Promotion didn't want it because they were still in the process of building up King Ryan after a few years so many things have changed Haney is now a double division champion while Ryan hasn't won a single major title. Haney just got better while Ryan is deteriorating this is because Haney is not afraid to take challenges while Ryan is cherry-picking his opponents if they will be the next to square off in the ring I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and accuracy, Prograis is an easy fight but if it's going to be a much easier fight when he faces Ryan.
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