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September 05, 2023, 01:03:49 PM
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Italy ML @11.0 vs US

Taking my chances here though i like the US to win but their lack of experience might cost this game for them tonight.

I like your call. I believe the USA is overrated, and Italy has been winning games since they visited Pacman. Maybe they got inspired by Pacman, LOL. Anyway, I still love the pick; it's like 'go big or go home.' Good luck; I'm joining you!

Good luck, guys! The game has started, and it seems like it's a close one, so there's a chance, hehe. The USA likes to play small ball; maybe Italy has a good strategy to counter their style. The fact that the USA has lost once already indicates they have a weakness that any team could exploit. Italy has also lost once, but we've seen how good they are when they move the ball well, so it could be a 50-50 game.

End of the first quarter and the US is leading by 10 points, 3's were not there for the Italians due to US' good defense.

If the Italians could not adjust to the defense of the US then i think this is money in the bag for the Americans.

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September 05, 2023, 01:10:46 PM
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Italy ML @11.0 vs US

Taking my chances here though i like the US to win but their lack of experience might cost this game for them tonight.

I like your call. I believe the USA is overrated, and Italy has been winning games since they visited Pacman. Maybe they got inspired by Pacman, LOL. Anyway, I still love the pick; it's like 'go big or go home.' Good luck; I'm joining you!

Good luck, guys! The game has started, and it seems like it's a close one, so there's a chance, hehe. The USA likes to play small ball; maybe Italy has a good strategy to counter their style. The fact that the USA has lost once already indicates they have a weakness that any team could exploit. Italy has also lost once, but we've seen how good they are when they move the ball well, so it could be a 50-50 game.

End of the first quarter and the US is leading by 10 points, 3's were not there for the Italians due to US' good defense.

If the Italians could not adjust to the defense of the US then i think this is money in the bag for the Americans.

This is far from over. When a team is a three-point shooting team, they can easily come back once they find their rhythm. What they need now is the confidence, as they cannot be overwhelmed by the very popular Team USA. They are here to compete and secure a win to move up to the semi-finals. If USA takes a double-digit lead and Italy can't stop the bleeding, I'm afraid we won't see a good second half. So, the second quarter is very important, and Italy has to mount a comeback.

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September 05, 2023, 02:56:33 PM
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Italy ML @11.0 vs US

Taking my chances here though i like the US to win but their lack of experience might cost this game for them tonight.

I like your call. I believe the USA is overrated, and Italy has been winning games since they visited Pacman. Maybe they got inspired by Pacman, LOL. Anyway, I still love the pick; it's like 'go big or go home.' Good luck; I'm joining you!

Good luck, guys! The game has started, and it seems like it's a close one, so there's a chance, hehe. The USA likes to play small ball; maybe Italy has a good strategy to counter their style. The fact that the USA has lost once already indicates they have a weakness that any team could exploit. Italy has also lost once, but we've seen how good they are when they move the ball well, so it could be a 50-50 game.

End of the first quarter and the US is leading by 10 points, 3's were not there for the Italians due to US' good defense.

If the Italians could not adjust to the defense of the US then i think this is money in the bag for the Americans.

This is far from over. When a team is a three-point shooting team, they can easily come back once they find their rhythm. What they need now is the confidence, as they cannot be overwhelmed by the very popular Team USA. They are here to compete and secure a win to move up to the semi-finals. If USA takes a double-digit lead and Italy can't stop the bleeding, I'm afraid we won't see a good second half. So, the second quarter is very important, and Italy has to mount a comeback.

Too bad because Italy haven't had the chance to rally back in the second half because the USA tightened their defense even more because they learned a lesson when they were defeated yesterday by Lithuania and in-fact, in the game today, the USA never gave an Italy a chance to win at least one quarter during the whole duration of their game.

Italy had a poor shooting night whether if it's beyond the arc (18%) or in the paint (30%) while the USA on the other hand are doubling both of their figures.

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September 05, 2023, 04:19:15 PM
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@casperBGD, congrats, well deserved win. I had similar fears that it might happen and similar scenario like in 2004 repeated - meaningless win against USA and we end without medals. Italy would be better opponent, but we never try to pick our opponent and teams that try to do that - they usually don't end well. Game went completely by our opponents plan, their defense and intensity was awesome. We don't have such pitbull like Bogdanovic who can lead team in difficult moments. And these Jovic 3 pointers killed us completely.

The teams defeating USA in the tournament are always coming across big problems later on. After Greece eliminated USA in the semi finals in 2006 they lost to Spain in the finale by 70-43. Turkey were really down in morale after they lost to USA in a match they had the control of in the 2019 FIBA. After that they said goodbye to the tournament by losing to Czech Republic in the group stage already. I guess the best thing is to lose to USA by a big gap and concentrate on the next match. Cheesy

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September 05, 2023, 05:52:10 PM
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@casperBGD, congrats, well deserved win.
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Game went completely by our opponents plan, their defense and intensity was awesome. We don't have such pitbull like Bogdanovic who can lead team in difficult moments. And these Jovic 3 pointers killed us completely.

thanks, I am also surprised to see how good was our play, especially looking so far, we played some 2nd class teams, and first tougher opponent were better than us, Italy

but today, all functioning well, and easy win in the end, pretty unexpected

looking forward to SF, and maybe Canada can fell off tomorrow, to easy us, but even with them it should be manageable to reach final
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September 05, 2023, 07:42:29 PM
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@casperBGD, congrats, well deserved win. I had similar fears that it might happen and similar scenario like in 2004 repeated - meaningless win against USA and we end without medals. Italy would be better opponent, but we never try to pick our opponent and teams that try to do that - they usually don't end well. Game went completely by our opponents plan, their defense and intensity was awesome. We don't have such pitbull like Bogdanovic who can lead team in difficult moments. And these Jovic 3 pointers killed us completely.

The teams defeating USA in the tournament are always coming across big problems later on. After Greece eliminated USA in the semi finals in 2006 they lost to Spain in the finale by 70-43. Turkey were really down in morale after they lost to USA in a match they had the control of in the 2019 FIBA. After that they said goodbye to the tournament by losing to Czech Republic in the group stage already. I guess the best thing is to lose to USA by a big gap and concentrate on the next match. Cheesy

https://twitter.com/FIBAWC/status/1699064640263827463

Lol seems like it but honestly Lithuania was just a bad matchup against a very small US team.  They play small ball but got housed on the rebounds against them because of it.  Was a great gameplan from Lithuania, but they are going to hit the same wall against any team that big.  Game against Germany would likely be a dog fight as well.

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September 05, 2023, 09:12:20 PM
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It was always obvious that Serbia would do fine, Jokic is there, and him alone is good enough to beat other teams at this level, he the best player in the NBA right now, so obviously he will be better than anyone who is not even in the NBA, other sides only have 1-2 players in NBA who are not even that good, Serbia has one that is MVP of the greatest league in the world. All in all I would guess that it is going to be fine, and I think it should be considered that we could make it work one way or another.

This is of course only possible if we are talking about something major, and Jokic injured or something which could be the only reason for them to lose. This gam was fun, big difference, definitely a fun for Serbia.

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September 05, 2023, 10:22:31 PM
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Italy ML @11.0 vs US

Taking my chances here though i like the US to win but their lack of experience might cost this game for them tonight.

I like your call. I believe the USA is overrated, and Italy has been winning games since they visited Pacman. Maybe they got inspired by Pacman, LOL. Anyway, I still love the pick; it's like 'go big or go home.' Good luck; I'm joining you!

Good luck, guys! The game has started, and it seems like it's a close one, so there's a chance, hehe. The USA likes to play small ball; maybe Italy has a good strategy to counter their style. The fact that the USA has lost once already indicates they have a weakness that any team could exploit. Italy has also lost once, but we've seen how good they are when they move the ball well, so it could be a 50-50 game.

Team US shows huge dominance in this game, they lead from start to finish and not letting Italy to close the gap until the last quarter.

Maybe they realize that after that loss they will be criticized, and they needed to work more to prove that they still
one of the top in this tournament.

Let see if how they will finish this world cup and how they will satisfy their fans and shut the mouth of their critics.
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September 05, 2023, 10:33:26 PM
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Team US shows huge dominance in this game, they lead from start to finish and not letting Italy to close the gap until the last quarter.

Maybe they realize that after that loss they will be criticized, and they needed to work more to prove that they still
one of the top in this tournament.

Let see if how they will finish this world cup and how they will satisfy their fans and shut the mouth of their critics.

Damn, I was hoping Italy would give them a better fight.
Having won by such a big margin the motivational level will be high again for the US team.

If Germany can beat Latvia tonight it will be an even harder match with the US, now that they showed their true face.
I still believe we have a chance but we will be a HUGE underdog nevertheless.

Lithuania was very disappointing and I was sad seeing them go out in such a fashion. They live and die with the 3 point shot and yesterday this was just not what they needed.

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September 05, 2023, 11:26:12 PM
Last edit: September 05, 2023, 11:44:14 PM by AmoreJaz
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Team US shows huge dominance in this game, they lead from start to finish and not letting Italy to close the gap until the last quarter.

Maybe they realize that after that loss they will be criticized, and they needed to work more to prove that they still
one of the top in this tournament.

Let see if how they will finish this world cup and how they will satisfy their fans and shut the mouth of their critics.

Damn, I was hoping Italy would give them a better fight.
Having won by such a big margin the motivational level will be high again for the US team.

If Germany can beat Latvia tonight it will be an even harder match with the US, now that they showed their true face.
I still believe we have a chance but we will be a HUGE underdog nevertheless.

Lithuania was very disappointing and I was sad seeing them go out in such a fashion. They live and die with the 3 point shot and yesterday this was just not what they needed.


germany is highly favourite over latvia in this upcoming game. so let's see if they can truly give the expectations of their fans. and that for sure will give a very good challenge to the US team if they will face with germany.
seems that early odds by bookies giving US as  the potential winner of this event may actually come true.

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The Serbians showed a basketball clinic to the Lithuanians. Damn, they are strong.
Unselfishness is one of the key factors on why they won this game. They kept on rotating the ball to find the open man. The good part is all of them have shooting skills so it won't be that hard to find an opening because every player is a threat. The floor is too spread for them and it helps to see who will be open.
This play is one of them.

Valanciunas in early foul trouble has some effects on Lithuania too and Serbia took advantage of that.
Now Serbia is waiting for the Semi-Final and so is the USA.

What country do you think will win the next one?
Germany versus Latvia
Canada versus Slovenia

Germany versus USA at the semis seems to be a good match.
Serbia versus Slovenia is my take on the other game.

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Team US shows huge dominance in this game, they lead from start to finish and not letting Italy to close the gap until the last quarter.

Maybe they realize that after that loss they will be criticized, and they needed to work more to prove that they still
one of the top in this tournament.

Let see if how they will finish this world cup and how they will satisfy their fans and shut the mouth of their critics.

Damn, I was hoping Italy would give them a better fight.
Having won by such a big margin the motivational level will be high again for the US team.

If Germany can beat Latvia tonight it will be an even harder match with the US, now that they showed their true face.
I still believe we have a chance but we will be a HUGE underdog nevertheless.

Lithuania was very disappointing and I was sad seeing them go out in such a fashion. They live and die with the 3 point shot and yesterday this was just not what they needed.


germany is highly favourite over latvia in this upcoming game. so let's see if they can truly give the expectations of their fans. and that for sure will give a very good challenge to the US team if they will face with germany.
seems that early odds by bookies giving US as  the potential winner of this event may actually come true.

Germany will be a big challenge for team US for sure, they are really playing well, and they have that good connections with
each other, continuing to play like this will give them good edge.

Though we can't conclude if how Latvia will come inside the court, they will not be advancing to this level if they don't have anything to bring.

Let see which team will win and will continue to the semi-final round.
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Germany will be a big challenge for team US for sure, they are really playing well, and they have that good connections with
each other, continuing to play like this will give them good edge.

Though we can't conclude if how Latvia will come inside the court, they will not be advancing to this level if they don't have anything to bring.

Let see which team will win and will continue to the semi-final round.
This could be the biggest challenge for the team USA but I think they can still get a win here.
They have to do everything to get this championship again, or else this young roasters is not enough especially for their Olympic quest.
The game between Canada and Slovenia will also be crucial, this will be a hard one for sure and after winning by Canada, I'm sure they have a better motivation against Slovenia, exciting Quarterfinals with these great teams.
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September 06, 2023, 09:36:37 AM
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US has made an adjustment in the second half of that game but the lead was huge in the first half that they fell short but nevertheless, it was a good learning experience for them playing against a European team.

These recent game were so unpredictable, Italy beat Serbia while Serbia was blowing out Lithuania for the finals contention while the odds for US vs Italy is so juicy if you are rooting for the Italians to upset the US in the next couple of hours.

Italy ML @11.0 vs US

Taking my chances here though i like the US to win but their lack of experience might cost this game for them tonight.

It was really unpredictable but sad to say Italy lost to the USA with a Dominant win from start to finish Italy stood no chance against the USA maybe because of the upset they got from Lithuania and surely that match was really a close one for these two teams it was Mickal Bridge and Tyrese Haliburton's effort for the USA to win and Austin Reaves also made a great contribution for this game aswell,



Actually, I have made my bet for the games today I already made my bet last night but I haven't posted it because I fell asleep,

Germany VS Latvia

This game already starting but Germany is now leading as I am posting this, With 2 points for this game Germany's only loss was against Slovenia and they did a great job against that team for this game, I am going with the favorite and that is Germany,

Canada VS Slovenia

While Canada also did a great job against each team they faced the only loss they had was against Brazil sure this game I think this could be a very close game as Slovenia has a great player that is Luka Doncic who can surely win the game all by himself but for this game the team play is more important for sure and because the NBA players skills and technique was exposed likely because of NBA for sure Canada have already know what they will do so my pick is Canada,


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September 06, 2023, 10:25:49 AM
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Yeah, this is something that was unexpected and made a lot of people believe that every team is balanced and can win the World Cup. Truly a good game against China because before the Gilas was having a hard time to beat them and when it's like we're hearing they were opponent, it's already acclaimed that the Gilas is going to lose with a lot of lead from China but this time, Gilas did the opposite still a good win after all.

It was surely unexpected as I also believe that there is a kind of balance in every team and for sure I also believe that bad coaching as well as bad decisions from the coach could surely lead to losing the entire game just like what happened to most of Philippines matches  as for sure many are saying that it was a bad decision, as the players are doing their best to keep the game as close as possible,

Being the coach only for Gilas but not entirely as a coach since there's still PBA (local league).

Oh! I thought he would resign even in the PBA, I thought it was his Coaching career for good, Lack of experience in coaching is what I can say for Coach Chot, for sure he can not make any good decisions when he is under pressure with that last crucial game he surely needed time to think 1st before making any decision as is time is up to essence with every decision he is making,

I also make my bet on the last game today

Canada (1.27) VS Slovenia (3.70)

For me, I think Slovenia will likely strike an upset against the Canadian team as not only do they have Luka Doncic on their team but Slovenia is a focused team and they also have Mike Tobey and Klemen Prepelic in the team so for sure I think they can win against Canada, so my pick is Slovenia



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September 06, 2023, 10:49:39 AM
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I also make my bet on the last game today

Canada (1.27) VS Slovenia (3.70)

For me, I think Slovenia will likely strike an upset against the Canadian team as not only do they have Luka Doncic on their team but Slovenia is a focused team and they also have Mike Tobey and Klemen Prepelic in the team so for sure I think they can win against Canada, so my pick is Slovenia

I will be tailing your bet on this one mate because I think Luka's magic will work here in Manila and to think that this Canadian team is vulnerable i think as their plays rely on talent, most of it were isolations (i might be wrong but that's what I saw).

Got lucky in the first game, I thought I lost that one already but fortunately Latvia had a run on the dying minutes thus making the game close.


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We (Germany) didn't win this game today, Latvia lost it.

They showed some goos spirit and fight and had the final shot to win it, and they missed.
Funny thing is, at the break after 3 quarters I told my wife " wait for it, 5 seconds before the end we will lead by 2 points and Latvia will hit the winning 3".

Well, 5 seconds before the ende we actually lead by 2 and Latvia is shooting a 3. How did I just know??

Anyway, we didn't deserve to win. The coaching was just horrible. How can you let Dennis Schröder play 30 minutes ( the most of all players ) while he is shooting 4/26 (3 of them layups). I mean you can miss shots, but not like this.
We were up 6 or 7 with 2:25 to go, and Schröder shoots a 3 with 14 seconds left on the shot clock. What kind of decision making is this please? And after the rebound and attack of Latvia Schröder gets a technical foul for flopping, 1 more point for Latvia.

As a coach you HAVE TO take him out. Bench him the whole 4th quarter. This was just terrible. With a similar performance on Friday we will lose by 40 against the USA.

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September 06, 2023, 11:29:07 AM
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We (Germany) didn't win this game today, Latvia lost it.

They showed some goos spirit and fight and had the final shot to win it, and they missed.
Funny thing is, at the break after 3 quarters I told my wife " wait for it, 5 seconds before the end we will lead by 2 points and Latvia will hit the winning 3".

Well, 5 seconds before the ende we actually lead by 2 and Latvia is shooting a 3. How did I just know??

Anyway, we didn't deserve to win. The coaching was just horrible. How can you let Dennis Schröder play 30 minutes ( the most of all players ) while he is shooting 4/26 (3 of them layups). I mean you can miss shots, but not like this.
We were up 6 or 7 with 2:25 to go, and Schröder shoots a 3 with 14 seconds left on the shot clock. What kind of decision making is this please? And after the rebound and attack of Latvia Schröder gets a technical foul for flopping, 1 more point for Latvia.

As a coach you HAVE TO take him out. Bench him the whole 4th quarter. This was just terrible. With a similar performance on Friday we will lose by 40 against the USA.


Germany had some bad executions as they almost allowed Latvia to come back and beat them. They were in control with a double-digit lead, but they allowed a barrage of three-point shooting from their opponent, resulting in a comeback.

Speaking of Schröder, he may have had a bad game, but in most of the games they've won, I believe he was the real MVP. So, that's okay, mate. I know the coaching staff will learn from that. What's important is they still got the win. Just forget and improve; that's the best thing to do.

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Canada vs. Slovenia is up next. According to the bookies, Canada is the heavy favorite to win. But who among us here believes we're going to see an upset?

On the sportsbook I'm using, here are the odds:

Canada: 1.31 or -7.5
Slovenia: 3.65 or +7.5

Can Luka carry his team?

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Canada vs. Slovenia is up next. According to the bookies, Canada is the heavy favorite to win. But who among us here believes we're going to see an upset?

On the sportsbook I'm using, here are the odds:

Canada: 1.31 or -7.5
Slovenia: 3.65 or +7.5

Can Luka carry his team?

The game has started. Well, considering this is a do-or-die game and Slovenia is still a decent team, I think I would choose the handicap. Canada is probably the next best team after Team USA, but this is a big challenge for them. Let's see how they'll compete against Slovenia. If they win this game dominantly, it would prove they are ready for the next stage.

I'm rooting for LUKA! I hope he gets this big win.

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