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September 10, 2023, 03:39:08 AM
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So, today is the big day! First, starting with 3rd place game between Canada and USA. I really wish that Canada would win, I think that they deserved medal. And maybe poor result 2nd World Cup in a row would change US attitude a bit and next time they will bring more serious squad with some 1st tier stars.
And final between Serbia and Germany. Pointless to predict something, but what I can say that I doubt that Germany can win with such crazy offense like they did against USA, Serbia won't let it to happen. I expect to see a bit more defense. Will watch game from more or less neutral perspective, but probably I will prefer Germany to win.

Yeah between USA and Canada I don't expect anything I don't see anything interesting I wouldn't place a bet there, I'm afraid they are playing like behind the scenes you probably understand what I mean  Roll Eyes  Meanwhile for Germany and Serbia this is not something that is easy to predict both teams have the same strengths and opportunities, the same thing that the gambling market offers Germany 1.87 and Serbia 1.90 it's not a good idea to bet on the money line I will choose over in each Quarter especially in Quarter 4 as the final result.


The USA vs Canada game will be funny I think.
Nobody really wants the bronze medal, but also they don't want to lose against each other.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see very sour faces at the medal ceremony for the 3rd place winner, especially if it's the US team.

Their expectation and self confidence ( some could say overexaggerated pride ) cost them the title. They thought they could show up with a B team and dominate. Well Lithuania and Germany showed them otherwise.  Grin

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September 10, 2023, 04:14:09 AM
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The USA vs Canada game will be funny I think.
Nobody really wants the bronze medal, but also they don't want to lose against each other.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see very sour faces at the medal ceremony for the 3rd place winner, especially if it's the US team.

Their expectation and self confidence ( some could say overexaggerated pride ) cost them the title. They thought they could show up with a B team and dominate. Well Lithuania and Germany showed them otherwise.  Grin


Exactly what I thought they won't care about this medal if they get an ''order'' from the bookie they will take it that's why I ignored the fight for 3rd and 4th place
USA has lost 4 times in this tournament and all those defeats were not in important matches, I mean not decisive so I wouldn't be surprised if they did it again
I'm not saying USA will definitely lose this match, it still depends on 'orders' if there is a request  Roll Eyes what do you think, will they get 'orders'?

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September 10, 2023, 05:12:35 AM
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Yeah between USA and Canada I don't expect anything I don't see anything interesting I wouldn't place a bet there, I'm afraid they are playing like behind the scenes you probably understand what I mean  Roll Eyes
A fixed game? I don't know about that. There's too much ego at stake for team USA not to win the bronze medal. They would be a laughing stock back home if they don't. They are already embarrassed enough so they should at least finish the tournament with a win. Canada may not have that same drive but I bet they would still want to show they can win. These two teams will most likely become close rivals in the world stage for a few more years.

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September 10, 2023, 07:38:14 AM
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Yeah between USA and Canada I don't expect anything I don't see anything interesting I wouldn't place a bet there, I'm afraid they are playing like behind the scenes you probably understand what I mean  Roll Eyes
A fixed game? I don't know about that. There's too much ego at stake for team USA not to win the bronze medal. They would be a laughing stock back home if they don't. They are already embarrassed enough so they should at least finish the tournament with a win. Canada may not have that same drive but I bet they would still want to show they can win. These two teams will most likely become close rivals in the world stage for a few more years.

I doubt there is a game fixing in the battle for the bronze. At the very least, it could be that some American players aren't that interested in the 3rd place and will lose the fire in them. But I am pretty sure that their coach Steve Kerr wants to win the 3rd place. This is a challenge to him and he will do everything to enlighten his team in getting a win. The same with Canada, they want this 3rd place and then come back stronger next year in the Paris Olympics with their experience.

Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

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September 10, 2023, 08:15:45 AM
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So, today is the big day! First, starting with 3rd place game between Canada and USA. I really wish that Canada would win, I think that they deserved medal. And maybe poor result 2nd World Cup in a row would change US attitude a bit and next time they will bring more serious squad with some 1st tier stars.
And final between Serbia and Germany. Pointless to predict something, but what I can say that I doubt that Germany can win with such crazy offense like they did against USA, Serbia won't let it to happen. I expect to see a bit more defense. Will watch game from more or less neutral perspective, but probably I will prefer Germany to win.

For me, I am OK with the two teams but for sure I will bet because I like the USA and I like any teams in the FIBA because I think that the USA will be motivated to get any position in the FIBA because they likely lost a close game against Germany but for sure I will feel OK even if the USA lost this game but this is just what I think may happen in this game, but anything can surely happen this is Basketball after all,


Yeah between USA and Canada I don't expect anything I don't see anything interesting I wouldn't place a bet there, I'm afraid they are playing like behind the scenes you probably understand what I mean  Roll Eyes  Meanwhile for Germany and Serbia this is not something that is easy to predict both teams have the same strengths and opportunities, the same thing that the gambling market offers Germany 1.87 and Serbia 1.90 it's not a good idea to bet on the money line I will choose over in each Quarter especially in Quarter 4 as the final result.


for sure the fans will not care about the third place at all and will go straight in watching the Championship but if the USA lost against Canada then Steve Kerr's and the USA's reputation is on the line for sure so they will do anything they can to surely win this,

But man it is really hard to pick on the finals because both teams could surely win and this is really a close game for sure but I have chosen Germany because they got a Footballer on their team so yeah they could kick the ball in the ring instead of shooting with hands, (just kidding)


A fixed game? I don't know about that. There's too much ego at stake for team USA not to win the bronze medal. They would be a laughing stock back home if they don't. They are already embarrassed enough so they should at least finish the tournament with a win. Canada may not have that same drive but I bet they would still want to show they can win. These two teams will most likely become close rivals in the world stage for a few more years.

I really think he doesn't mean something like that but yeah fixing a game in FIBA is really impossible I guess there could be a referee favoring a team but for an official to be favoring something that would be obvious for sure and yeah why bother fixing a game for the 3rd place why not for the championship,

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I doubt there is a game fixing in the battle for the bronze. At the very least, it could be that some American players aren't that interested in the 3rd place and will lose the fire in them. But I am pretty sure that their coach Steve Kerr wants to win the 3rd place. This is a challenge to him and he will do everything to enlighten his team in getting a win. The same with Canada, they want this 3rd place and then come back stronger next year in the Paris Olympics with their experience.

Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

We can't be sure whether they did it or not but we don't know what happened behind the scenes we know that USA is always the champion so it's a bit strange if they are fighting for 3rd/4th place imo. Regardless of our opinion, we should just wait and see how this ends this match will start in a few minutes and I will ignore it by not placing a bet, our focus is on Quarter 1 and Quarter 2 if USA points are less than 50 points in the first half then it could be suspected  Cheesy

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Yeah between USA and Canada I don't expect anything I don't see anything interesting I wouldn't place a bet there, I'm afraid they are playing like behind the scenes you probably understand what I mean  Roll Eyes
A fixed game? I don't know about that. There's too much ego at stake for team USA not to win the bronze medal. They would be a laughing stock back home if they don't. They are already embarrassed enough so they should at least finish the tournament with a win. Canada may not have that same drive but I bet they would still want to show they can win. These two teams will most likely become close rivals in the world stage for a few more years.

I doubt there is a game fixing in the battle for the bronze. At the very least, it could be that some American players aren't that interested in the 3rd place and will lose the fire in them. But I am pretty sure that their coach Steve Kerr wants to win the 3rd place. This is a challenge to him and he will do everything to enlighten his team in getting a win. The same with Canada, they want this 3rd place and then come back stronger next year in the Paris Olympics with their experience.

Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

Still a country's pride and the game even it's for the bronze both squads will try to complete the tournament with something to bring home
though I'm in the impression that key players would try to avoid any possible injury and just play the usual routine.

Early quarter and Canada have the lead, we might see them win or maybe US is just analyzing the game and will start to push after the next couple
of minutes.

Well , good luck to those who bet for this game, will continue to check update and see who's going to bring the bronze medal.
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The USA didn't play well against Canada. The third quarter is over, and Canada is leading by 9 points. We know that the USA won't give up, but they are in a precarious situation. Hopefully, they will be able to come back so I won't lose my bet on the moneyline. I'm also placing an extra bet on the USA moneyline with 3.40 odds. Good luck!

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The USA didn't play well against Canada. The third quarter is over, and Canada is leading by 9 points. We know that the USA won't give up, but they are in a precarious situation. Hopefully, they will be able to come back so I won't lose my bet on the moneyline. I'm also placing an extra bet on the USA moneyline with 3.40 odds. Good luck!
A few minutes have passed and the USA managed to tie the game...
I confess that I also bet on the US team, well, I believe if they maintain this performance, probably they will beat Canada (I hope so)

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The USA didn't play well against Canada. The third quarter is over, and Canada is leading by 9 points. We know that the USA won't give up, but they are in a precarious situation. Hopefully, they will be able to come back so I won't lose my bet on the moneyline. I'm also placing an extra bet on the USA moneyline with 3.40 odds. Good luck!
A few minutes have passed and the USA managed to tie the game...
I confess that I also bet on the US team, well, I believe if they maintain this performance, probably they will beat Canada (I hope so)
The last shot by Mikal Bridges brought the game to overtime. Unfortunately, the USA struggled in the extra period, and it appears they won't be getting the Bronze. It was the worst performance by the USA, and they need to be evaluated to prevent such occurrences in the future. I would like to congratulate Canada; they performed well tonight and beat the USA. Another seemed to be unsportsmanlike foul was called on Portis before the game ended; they were clearly frustrated.

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The USA didn't play well against Canada. The third quarter is over, and Canada is leading by 9 points. We know that the USA won't give up, but they are in a precarious situation. Hopefully, they will be able to come back so I won't lose my bet on the moneyline. I'm also placing an extra bet on the USA moneyline with 3.40 odds. Good luck!
A few minutes have passed and the USA managed to tie the game...
I confess that I also bet on the US team, well, I believe if they maintain this performance, probably they will beat Canada (I hope so)
The last shot by Mikal Bridges brought the game to overtime. Unfortunately, the USA struggled in the extra period, and it appears they won't be getting the Bronze. It was the worst performance by the USA, and they need to be evaluated to prevent such occurrences in the future. I would like to congratulate Canada; they performed well tonight and beat the USA. Another seemed to be unsportsmanlike foul was called on Portis before the game ended; they were clearly frustrated.

There is a lot of work for them to do in the near future, but to be honest I think Canada and Germany have played very well against them with an extremely good hit rate from all distances.

I was wondering if the score is normal like that. In four quarters scoring 111:111 for the two teams before overtime started, isn't that a hell lot of points?  Each quarter is just 10 minutes and this is a score average that I thought would be way above of what is normally to be expected.

But USA was the big favorite and I think they had a hard time to motivate themselves to play for 3rd as good as they would play as if it was for the title. This was a disappointing tournament for them.

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September 10, 2023, 10:57:17 AM
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The USA didn't play well against Canada. The third quarter is over, and Canada is leading by 9 points. We know that the USA won't give up, but they are in a precarious situation. Hopefully, they will be able to come back so I won't lose my bet on the moneyline. I'm also placing an extra bet on the USA moneyline with 3.40 odds. Good luck!
A few minutes have passed and the USA managed to tie the game...
I confess that I also bet on the US team, well, I believe if they maintain this performance, probably they will beat Canada (I hope so)
The last shot by Mikal Bridges brought the game to overtime. Unfortunately, the USA struggled in the extra period, and it appears they won't be getting the Bronze. It was the worst performance by the USA, and they need to be evaluated to prevent such occurrences in the future. I would like to congratulate Canada; they performed well tonight and beat the USA. Another seemed to be unsportsmanlike foul was called on Portis before the game ended; they were clearly frustrated.

There is a lot of work for them to do in the near future, but to be honest I think Canada and Germany have played very well against them with an extremely good hit rate from all distances.
The USA had big comebacks in the 4th quarter in both games but still ended up losing in the end. Against Germany, they only lost by 2 points, while against Canada, they had a chance to win in overtime after an unbelievable shot from Bridges. It's just that their execution wasn't consistent.

I was wondering if the score is normal like that. In four quarters scoring 111:111 for the two teams before overtime started, isn't that a hell lot of points?  Each quarter is just 10 minutes and this is a score average that I thought would be way above of what is normally to be expected.
They are playing at a high pace, and their three-point shooting percentage is high. Canada was able to keep up with the USA as their starters are also from the NBA, so the NBA system was used; it's just that Canada played better than the USA. By the way, Brooks scored 39 points; that's how valuable he is, and I think the Rockets weren't wrong in signing him to a decent contract.

But USA was the big favorite and I think they had a hard time to motivate themselves to play for 3rd as good as they would play as if it was for the title. This was a disappointing tournament for them.
They can't even win the Bronze; they need to carefully study what's wrong and make sure to correct it for the Olympics. They can't afford to let what happened here occur again. They used to dominate this competition, but now they are just a big hype.

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Good money on Canada - the 3:1 underdog was just too good to pass up hehe. The match was still intense as I've anticipated since both teams have a lot of NBA players and there's the bragging rights to whoever comes out on top.

That was an insane play by Mikal Bridges which sent the game to OT. I thought they were going to complete the comeback since they have momentum.

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September 10, 2023, 11:51:21 AM
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Good money on Canada - the 3:1 underdog was just too good to pass up hehe. The match was still intense as I've anticipated since both teams have a lot of NBA players and there's the bragging rights to whoever comes out on top.

That was an insane play by Mikal Bridges which sent the game to OT. I thought they were going to complete the comeback since they have momentum.

Yeah that's normally how it goes. The team that forces OT by some miracle ( I think 4 point comeback with 5 seconds to go qualifies for a small mircale) often take the momentum into OT and wins the game.

Glad they didn't and Shai took over with a strong start in OT to seal the deal.

D.Brooks with a big game, I guess he feels like an allstar now. He called himself the best defender in the world some days ago, maybe now he is the best on offense as well.  Grin

1 more hour until the final game, heart beat is getting faster. Finally German TV also decided to show the world cup, haha. They ignored the tournament the whole 2 weeks.  Cry
This doesn't change anything for me though, we will watch it on Japanese TV.  Wink

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September 10, 2023, 11:55:09 AM
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Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

Congrats on your win on Canada bro, that's awesome. Team USA almost catch-up but they fell short. On the Final's game, i have in my mind on betting for Germany but upon seeing your post, I changed my mind and bet for Serbia hehe hope I won't be the reason why Serbia lost this game if ever. Odds are almost even so this is just a guessing game for us whose teams got eliminated early hehe.

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Good money on Canada - the 3:1 underdog was just too good to pass up hehe. The match was still intense as I've anticipated since both teams have a lot of NBA players and there's the bragging rights to whoever comes out on top.

That was an insane play by Mikal Bridges which sent the game to OT. I thought they were going to complete the comeback since they have momentum.

Yeah that's normally how it goes. The team that forces OT by some miracle ( I think 4 point comeback with 5 seconds to go qualifies for a small mircale) often take the momentum into OT and wins the game.

Glad they didn't and Shai took over with a strong start in OT to seal the deal.

D.Brooks with a big game, I guess he feels like an allstar now. He called himself the best defender in the world some days ago, maybe now he is the best on offense as well.  Grin

1 more hour until the final game, heart beat is getting faster. Finally German TV also decided to show the world cup, haha. They ignored the tournament the whole 2 weeks.  Cry
This doesn't change anything for me though, we will watch it on Japanese TV.  Wink

What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley

For me, this game is going to go down to the wire. Both teams are not in a familiar place as they have not reached the Finals before, if I'm not mistaken, so they will both be eager to win. While the Canada vs. USA game was high-scoring, I expect this one to be the opposite, as defense will definitely be the priority here.




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The team that forces OT by some miracle ( I think 4 point comeback with 5 seconds to go qualifies for a small mircale) often take the momentum into OT and wins the game.
If there's an award for being the shot of the tournament then that should be up there. There was luck involve but his awareness to collect his own miss and make the game-tying shot was just amazing to watch.

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Finally German TV also decided to show the world cup, haha. They ignored the tournament the whole 2 weeks.  Cry
That's disrespectful. Was there an issue between Germany's basketball organization and the media or maybe because they are mainly a football nation?

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What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley
I was rooting for Germany but some members made a decent argument that Serbia has a high chance if they could lock down Dennis. We know they're one of the best defensive teams in this tournament.

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What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley
I was rooting for Germany but some members made a decent argument that Serbia has a high chance if they could lock down Dennis. We know they're one of the best defensive teams in this tournament.
Germany is composed of good 3-point shooters. If Serbia wants to lock down Schröder, that means they will focus their defense on him, probably putting two defenders on him. However, the risk is that it will open up opportunities for the shooters, who won't hesitate to take their shots. There has been a slight odds movement, and I believe the reason is that bettors are slightly shifting toward Germany. If I recall correctly, when the line opened, Serbia was the slight favorite, but now it's in favor of Germany.

Still, it's hard to predict because both teams have equal skills. It's now about how well their coaches can devise a game plan and make adjustments during the game. These four-quarter games should never be boring; one team might have a big run, but I'm sure the other will come back.

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What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley
I was rooting for Germany but some members made a decent argument that Serbia has a high chance if they could lock down Dennis. We know they're one of the best defensive teams in this tournament.
Germany is composed of good 3-point shooters. If Serbia wants to lock down Schröder, that means they will focus their defense on him, probably putting two defenders on him. However, the risk is that it will open up opportunities for the shooters, who won't hesitate to take their shots. There has been a slight odds movement, and I believe the reason is that bettors are slightly shifting toward Germany. If I recall correctly, when the line opened, Serbia was the slight favorite, but now it's in favor of Germany.

Still, it's hard to predict because both teams have equal skills. It's now about how well their coaches can devise a game plan and make adjustments during the game. These four-quarter games should never be boring; one team might have a big run, but I'm sure the other will come back.

This is going to be interesting, just a few minutes to go before the Finals clash between Germany and Serbia. In my sports bookies, the line changed again in just a matter of minutes before the game commences and Serbia is now the favorite.

It seems to me that the crowd is divided here as some are saying that Serbia got an upper hand because even if most of their players aren't from NBA, they can't still be underestimated as they managed to get in this position and being a defensive team is not easy to oppose. But I'd say, Germany is the same too, if they focus too much on Dennis, it will be their loss because the other players in the same roster cannot be left unguarded.

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I doubt there is a game fixing in the battle for the bronze. At the very least, it could be that some American players aren't that interested in the 3rd place and will lose the fire in them. But I am pretty sure that their coach Steve Kerr wants to win the 3rd place. This is a challenge to him and he will do everything to enlighten his team in getting a win. The same with Canada, they want this 3rd place and then come back stronger next year in the Paris Olympics with their experience.

Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

We can't be sure whether they did it or not but we don't know what happened behind the scenes we know that USA is always the champion so it's a bit strange if they are fighting for 3rd/4th place imo. Regardless of our opinion, we should just wait and see how this ends this match will start in a few minutes and I will ignore it by not placing a bet, our focus is on Quarter 1 and Quarter 2 if USA points are less than 50 points in the first half then it could be suspected  Cheesy

But it's not what happened a few hours ago because I think most of us here witnessed how close and tight their scores are, so I think that we can already ease ourselves by thinking that there is a chance of a game fixing in FIBA games mainly in this phase. Doesn't matter what I think because that's not important at this point because we already saw how the game goes and ended fair and square.

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