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August 01, 2023, 07:01:28 AM
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newbies who create "how to earn merit" and "how to post quality content" topics in a nutshell



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August 01, 2023, 07:41:20 AM
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Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn and they should read before posting.

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August 01, 2023, 08:36:11 AM
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If you are referring to those who create these threads, not asking, but explaining, it is curious because it is clear that some are alts trying to fish for merit. Seeing someone who has little to no merits explain in detail in an OP how to get merits or write quality posts is a big LOL.

There are some who simply ask "How can I get merit on Bitcointalk?" and I don't predict a great future for them in this forum because they are the kind of people who expect to have everything handed to them on a platter.

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August 01, 2023, 09:58:18 AM
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There are several topics that a newbie will create that tells you that this user is not here for the knowledge that this forum has to offer instead they are here to try to milk merit and apply for one signature campaign.

Something they have failed to realized is that when they’re fixated on getting merits they’ll only end up with nothing and that’s why you see them creating thread either accusing those with smerit for being bias or claim that merit source are always meriting their alt and that’s why they (newbies ) don’t receive any merit.

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August 01, 2023, 10:35:32 AM
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Ironically this is what newbies does over here they always preached on how to earn merits while they haven't earned a single merits for long. That is what this youtuber just did while he gained less viewer. You know, sometimes life isn't balance " it's very possible for someone to come telling you do that to start driving expensive cars while they are walking on bear foot" do you think this is normal why can't they show a good example before reaching others?.

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August 01, 2023, 10:54:59 AM
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Just look at that funny picture in the OP. A carpenter who doesn't have a single chair at home. It's the same way we also see people who teach trading but can't earn profit from it to make them quit their day job and begin to elk a living from trading. It's a funny situation. I read a lot of posts like that and laugh at the hidden hypocrisy in them. This is why members here shouldn't take everything said here hook, line and sinker without verifying them.

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August 01, 2023, 11:59:04 AM
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Maybe I should come in for the newbies/teachers.
In football, we have coaches that do not know how to play and they cannot even score a goal. Yet they teach people how to play and score lots of goals. Maybe this set of newbies that teach even the legendary members should be likened to such football coaches. LOL

However, I have strong feeling that majority of such newbies are not genuinely new comers. They could be the alt account of some established members. There are still chances that some genuine newbies could start off by teaching. Myself, I started by advising legendary members Grin

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August 01, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
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It's quite hilarious considering how serious they're in trying to give helpful tips. One funny part is, they are giving these "tips" but sadly have none themselves. It's just like the pic in the Op.
To me, there's no shortcut to success and it's when something is struggled for and gotten, that's where appreciation comes in. Most newbies are of the belief that the moment they give such headings, the merits would start rushing like a tap that was just opened.  Grin .

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August 01, 2023, 12:23:44 PM
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Not all the threads were bad when I read them as a newbie. I sometime, after reading the topic felt that the writer behind might be a senior member disguised as a newbie. Then my suspicion would go down the drain because of spelling & grammar mistakes. I have read replies of a lot of senior members here and they are always good in writing. I would still encourage such topics as they only help new members to achieve thier goal here of gaining merits.

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August 01, 2023, 12:42:23 PM
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We all make different mistakes that others may find funny. But constantly making fun of newcomers because they have not yet settled in and have not learned to behave as expected, this is not very friendly.

In my opinion, opening threads just to make fun of newbies makes less sense than newbies trying to learn how to use the forum through building their own guides.
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August 01, 2023, 01:52:34 PM
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Like what do we expect from those newbies who create such topics? Is not really their fault because the merit in question is the only way to get to the next rank, without it there's no way you can rank up to the next level. Is not easy to get 1 merit as a newbie, no one knows if he or she is making out time to create the best post to get at least a merit.
Whenever we see such topics "how to earn merit" we should start screaming out loud and start complaining, to gain 1 merit as a newbie gives them joy so we shouldn't write them off, I feel they deserve that 1merit for a start.

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August 01, 2023, 03:25:59 PM
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We all make different mistakes that others may find funny. But constantly making fun of newcomers because they have not yet settled in and have not learned to behave as expected, this is not very friendly.

In my opinion, opening threads just to make fun of newbies makes less sense than newbies trying to learn how to use the forum through building their own guides.


While this is true, it is also worth stating that a newbie concern after a week of creating his or her account should not be about creating a guide on how to earn merits with them having just 5 or no merits for themselves. Aside from the fact the it’s not logical it also makes it obvious that they are fishing for merit, which could irritate some users that were supposed to merit them in the future as they start to grow here in the forum into adding them to their ignore list.

I also get the fact that most newbie come to the forum without proper education on what the forum is all about just as I did, after the forum was introduced to me I had to take my time to learn how to post and how things work here before I could join discussions here in the forum. But most newbies just don’t want to learn instead they are looking for shortcuts or buses that will take them to their destinations without them having to do anything.

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August 01, 2023, 03:31:16 PM
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We all make different mistakes that others may find funny. But constantly making fun of newcomers because they have not yet settled in and have not learned to behave as expected, this is not very friendly.

I don't know about you, but if I find myself in a new social setting and I'm not entirely sure how to behave or fit in, I usually prefer to take a step back and just observe for a while. Once I feel more comfortable and understand the group dynamics better, I'll naturally start to participate more actively.

In my opinion, opening threads just to make fun of newbies makes less sense than newbies trying to learn how to use the forum through building their own guides.

I think the point here is that these members are not really newbies, but their methods and tactics to achieve their goal are so obvious.

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August 01, 2023, 03:36:14 PM
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newbies who create "how to earn merit" and "how to post quality content" topics in a nutshell


The newbies who create such topics often want to earn merits themselves, and I believe that such topics when created by newbies are mostly made for merit fishing purposes. If a newbie who doesn't earn enough merits creates such threads then there is no doubt that they are basically after merits, and they mostly believe that with such posts they can make reputable members as well as the merit sources to give them some merits for creation of such posts.

I think it's still okay to create such posts because those newbies may learn something by creating such posts and they will try their best to make the posts as much informative as they possibly could. I hope that such newbies may contribute betters posts to the forum because creation of such posts require efforts and when someone puts effort in something then such users often get better over time.

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August 01, 2023, 03:36:50 PM
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In my opinion, opening threads just to make fun of newbies makes less sense than newbies trying to learn how to use the forum through building their own guides.
Thing is, "newbies" that open threads like OP mentioned ain't newbies at all but instead alt accounts that are trying to farm the merit by a most cheap and obvious way and those are the only ones that are getting ridiculed around here. Legit newbies that are asking legit newbie questions usually won't have any issues at all around here.

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August 01, 2023, 03:51:36 PM
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Maybe OP meant "newbies", but he didn't put the word in quotes. Therefore, it was not entirely clear to me that someone else was being ridiculed. Maybe.

As for me personally, I am not ready to tell someone how to do something right on the forum, even now. But all people are different, and for someone to formulate a text in public is a way of learning. By the way, I also do this sometimes, and often the errors pointed out to me give a big breakthrough in my ideas about the subject of study. So it seems to me that we should not be too strict with newbies. IMO.

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August 01, 2023, 04:23:23 PM
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Thing is, "newbies" that open threads like OP mentioned ain't newbies at all but instead alt accounts that are trying to farm the merit by a most cheap and obvious way and those are the only ones that are getting ridiculed around here. Legit newbies that are asking legit newbie questions usually won't have any issues at all around here.

Btw, love the username  Wink
They are just trying to gain some attention with these threads as they have nothing more to achieve through their main accounts so try to make such threads in hope of getting few merits just to rank up.

The legit newbies would explore the forum first of all and search for such threads but as far as I have seen most of them keep repeating the same thing some ask and some tell with low efforts threads.

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August 01, 2023, 06:10:16 PM
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There are several reasons why beginners do it, in my opinion:
1. They don't have many other ideas.
2. They intend to share their knowledge with other beginners, of course not for other established user who are used to the merit system.
3. Trying to prove himself as a quality poster and want to get merit for his efforts.
4. Ignore the many merit threads already around them.
5. Etc

Established users might consider it a wasted effort considering there were many other merit threads before the new one was created, but would also probably consider it not a real newbie but an established user hiding behind a newbie account.

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August 01, 2023, 07:28:55 PM
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There are several topics that a newbie will create that tells you that this user is not here for the knowledge that this forum has to offer instead they are here to try to milk merit and apply for one signature campaign.

None of them are newbies here on the forum. It is always an additional account of someone who is definitely already present on the forum. Whether the motive is to make money through signature campaigns or just simple farming, it is not so important.
Those who are really newbies here, mostly come because they have a problem, or to offer a service of their own. A small percentage comes from pure curiosity and a desire to learn something more.

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August 01, 2023, 07:33:45 PM
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If you are referring to those who create these threads, not asking, but explaining, it is curious because it is clear that some are alts trying to fish for merit. Seeing someone who has little to no merits explain in detail in an OP how to get merits or write quality posts is a big LOL.
this reminds me of a user who talked about how plagiarism is bad and should be avoided, and then he got caught and reported plagiarising and then get banned because of it. I don't disagree with what he said but it's funny getting caught and banned for doing the things you warned people not to do.

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