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August 02, 2023, 05:03:26 AM
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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?
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August 02, 2023, 06:15:08 AM
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No...... there are no link between previous bets and future bets... each bet are calculated on it's own.. by using the CLIENT seed and the SERVER seed and the RNG (Random Number Generator)

I also thought if you lose enough money on a specific game, then the slot or game will reward you in the future.. but that is not true. The RTP determine how much are returned to the player.. based on how the games are configured.  

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August 02, 2023, 06:23:21 AM
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In my opinion, not really. Games of keno, limbo, dice, etc., are gambling games based on luck. So if you're risking some percentage or just using a small bet, it won't matter. And in this case, your luck comes when you use bigger betting money than before. But maybe some friends can check the calculations because there must be someone very experienced in this matter.

I haven't played craps in a while, so I don't know how it's progressing. I used only to bet small amounts and never raise my stakes because I was too afraid to lose a lot of money.

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August 02, 2023, 07:44:06 AM
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How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?
It only just happened to you like that. For me, there are times my first wager will come out good. The luck comes at anytime. But if that is what you are doing to gamble and you are making profit, you can continue the strategy, but do not depend on it because betting is just luck and it comes at anytime. As for me, later watering is what I am very conscious about, for emotion not to build up to make me to be making wrong decisions.

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August 02, 2023, 08:25:02 AM
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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?

No it is not like that.I have played Plinko a lot of times and 90% are missed hits or they give a very low amount while only in 10% of my bets I have hit x470 and x1000 which is the best possible option.The wagering means nothing,maybe I have seen the same pattern in the Stake originals more precisely on Tome of Life slot as there after a certain buy bonuses gone wrong usually gives a couple with great multipliers,not the best but x270 to x700.So the wagering for me has nothing to do in all the games,maybe in some specific ones but also I am not sure about this.

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August 02, 2023, 08:25:42 AM
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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?
There can't be any correlation between two different bets it could be your first bet wasn't lucky enough to give you a win. Also the percentage you use in wagering is something of concern too as the amount matters in a way that for instance if it's in sports betting you don't  have to accumulate much games which does increase your risk reducing your chances of winning. But with a high percentage wager the risk are very low as you may not have to accumulate much predictions to get a big potential win.
AFAIK, the amount of money I risk in a bet is part of my strategies as it determines  my predictions and the number of games I accumulate and place a wager on.

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August 02, 2023, 08:35:07 AM
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It's just a coincidence.

You believe in something that will attract you to win, it's like you believe higher wager amount will make you win, when you use Bitcoin you will win, when you use red color shirt you will win etc. They have provably fair system and the outcome is random from one to another.

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August 02, 2023, 09:23:30 AM
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How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?

I have been really active in mines and the rest you mentioned and I can assure you that there's no math behind it.

Sometimes you can just log into your account and place several bets and you'll only have just one win out of all of them, the main factor there is the percentage of your winning probability of you're betting on low odds you'll have so many wins but as soon as you increase the odds you'll experience so many losses but if you're lucky enough you might ave some decent amount of wins but relating your lose to win ratio to the number of bets you have placed is totally wrong and just have others have said it's merely a coincidence.

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August 02, 2023, 10:14:26 AM
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Its intriguing that what you're observing has nothing to do with the stakes you've set. This is related to a phenomenon known as the "gambler's fallacy." Predicting the future based on the past is a cognitive bias.

If you're betting instead of hitting, you should start winning. The more you bet, the more you think you'll win. Actually, the opposite is true. Each individual occurrence in a game of dice, keno, or limbo stands on its own. No matter how much you've won or lost in the past, your odds of winning are always the same. The results arent being manipulated by the server to favor your bet.

You're probably just perceiving patterns where there are none, or your brain is playing tricks on you, if you've recently started to have a run of "luck" after placing bets. Gambling is ultimately based on chance and randomness rather than any discernible patterns or historical precedents.

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August 02, 2023, 10:27:04 AM
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... like when we wager we have more probability to hit win...

if you play 100 bets at a certain odd of course is more probable you hit a win respect play only 10 bets!
but, generally speaking, this is just casual or in general according reward to player. it is impossible have some betting patterns Sad

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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?
it's either coincidence or you are just imagining it, because if the probability increases as our wager increases, this will be abused by a lot of gamblers and as a result, the gambling site will suffer from it. no gambling site will intentionally put that kind of feature on their games, their goal is to earn profit from gamblers and putting that kind of feature will be bad for them.

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August 02, 2023, 01:08:28 PM
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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?

Wager doesn’t affect the outcome directly but since you are playing more often you are increasing your chance of hitting win since you keep trying. But playing more doesn’t increase your chance of winning since every bet results is independent.

For a better overview, imagine you are betting 100 bets on a 10% win chance rate, The chance of hitting win is higher if you will bet more often since you more chance to try done betting with few counts.

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August 02, 2023, 01:27:18 PM
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I don't think the wager or how many times you play would matter to the outcome of your bet. It is just luck. I have not noticed that, sometimes I'm lucky with the out come and sometimes I also lose irrespective of the times or first time. So if you have noticed a pattern that allows you better chance of winning, you better continue with it than trying to change what is working for you. If you usually lose in your first time and win subsequently then see the first time as sacrifice you make to win others. You are better knowing what works for you.

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August 02, 2023, 01:33:24 PM
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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?
From my personal experience, the amount you wager have absolutely nothing to do with your chances of winning, atleast i know this from a very close friend of mine who on his first day playing a slot game, that some one helped him create the account, and taught him how to deposit and withdraw, later on, i think he said he deposited $50, and since he wasn't too sure about betting on sports, he decided to play a slot game for a start, after the whole setting up the bet amount which he set at $5 per spin, just on clicking the spin button for the very first time, he got a bonus which made him win around $78 , though he got so excited and later lost everything including his initial deposit, but that goes on to prove that the amount you have wagered have nothing to do with your chances of winning a game, this also applies casino original games as well.

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August 02, 2023, 01:43:35 PM
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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?

I hope you believe that there are occasions whereby things happened coincidentally, that's just the exact explanation we can give to the above listed games you mentioned which they all deals about luck and not by skills, so if you're someone that gambles well on dice then i think you should understand better, there's no any hidden agenda behind those games than you trying out your luck on set of randomized figures.

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I don't know how it works or the calculations because I don't work in a casino. But as far as I know, the game you mentioned requires luck. So even if you tweak the strategy, you might still be out of luck if you don't have luck.

You can ask the people working in the casino to find the method. But I'm not sure that person wants to tell you because it's a company secret. When I play craps or plinko, I'm not thinking about how to win but only how much money I can use. That's it, nothing else because it depends on your luck.

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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?

There is no pattern to follow you will be disappointed if you think there is a pattern to follow, I was deceived when I was starting out in a dice game.

I thought back then that doubling up every time you lose is a good pattern to follow because logic tells us that you need one just win to recover all your losses, late to find out that you can lose your bankroll if you cannot keep up doubling your bet, and this happen to me many times.

What happens to you is just a stroke of luck don't look for a pattern you can create one for experimentation and just for fun but with an established pattern continuous profit is not possible.

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August 02, 2023, 02:17:43 PM
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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?

That's a false assumption. What you experience in a short period of time does not mean it will happen consistently. It's essential to be realistic and stick with the principle behind the house edge. All provably fair games have a house edge, and regardless of the percentage of the house edge, it still favors the casino in the long run. As gamblers, the more we gamble, the more our chances of winning will reduce, especially if we aim to earn consistently, as that would only lead us to gamble more.
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The way you are thinking about these games is totally wrong and it’s probably the highest reason of why gamblers lose too much money while gambling: thinking that if you lose 3 or 4 times arrow that there is a bigger chance to win the next time around and that’s why they think it’s a good chance to rise their bet and end up losing too much.
Every single bet is separated and has the same chance of winning or losing every single time you gamble. You may lose 5 times arrow and keep losing the sixth and seventh times also. And maybe the opposite. So wagering it has nothing to do with the chance of winning in any betting or gambling game, Slots or Live table games…..

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August 02, 2023, 02:41:39 PM
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I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?

I don't think so. Most reputable casino sites that we use these days does not link our bets with previous ones.
Most of these sites use the provably fair algorithm which shows that every bet is individual and wagering does not have any affect on our bets.
You should keep analyzing over the next few weeks and see if you can observe a pattern and then share with us in case you do.

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