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September 03, 2023, 05:31:15 PM
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I totally agree with your opinion about the possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. A problem can only be solved when it's firstly assumed as a problem otherwise it'll continue to linger and might even get to stage where nothing can be done about it to safe the situation.
Most of these gambling addicts will always tell you that they're not addicts rather they're in full control of what they're doing making it difficult for anyone to talk them out of their predicament.

A big problem hides with that mentality with a gambler can't admit that they are already having addiction problem there's no help that you can provide or there's nothing that they will listen, knowing that inside them they can't no longer control but continue to insist that they still in control and they still can avoid any problem that may occur while participating into gambling.

You can't do anything with someone who wanted to push for more instead of re-assessing the situation and start quitting away
from this activity that already harming their mental and financial capabilities.

The peak, is awareness. Having full awareness of one's actions and routines can make someone recognize themselves if they have gone too far. or in other words, has lost control. Regarding gambling, addiction problems can affect anyone who enjoys this hobby. There are those who realize it but have difficulty getting out of their addiction, there are also those who don't realize that they have become part of a gambling addict.
The point is, there are various cases in society related to gambling addiction. but generally as you said, one of the underlying is a mentality problem. not a few gamblers who deny that they are not part of the gambling addiction. Maybe you are like that too, or it could be me. for sure, everyone who likes gambling has the potential to become addicted.

Well, back again as I said at the beginning. Ultimately, is understanding. when we have a good understanding of gambling, as well as all the risks. Without realizing it, we already have at least some responsibilities that give birth to self-control. but in practice, it's not as easy as I said. In fact, in many cases, there are many gamblers who want to stop their excessive activities. Unfortunately, they don't have a strong mentality. and, without intention based on strong determination. which in the end, it is difficult for a person to get out of the circle that has become part of his life. That's why we need to realize what the essence of the gambling we do is, apart from the profits we can get easily.

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September 03, 2023, 07:37:34 PM
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Self-controlled is the only effective way to stop yourself from gambling completely. No matter how strongly a gambler is addicted to gambling, it is only possible to get out of gambling completely if he believes in himself and resolves to be free from all negative activities. But if self-restraint is not possible to get out of gambling then he must take motivational advice and talk to a good motivational consultant and then take effective measures.
No one can get rid of any addiction by self control alone. If a person becomes addicted to gambling and he wants to stop gambling completely then his family will be the most helpful for him, because in such a situation no one can stop any addiction without the help of family. When a gambler becomes addicted to gambling, the family has to bear the consequences of all his mistakes, so the family is the first to try to free him from this situation.

Yes, but the importance of self control is very important, if he does not have self control, then no motivation will be effective for him, he will go to a worse situation day by day.

But, if under different circumstances the gambler has no family, then how will he recover and be free from addiction?
Of course this also depends on how good the neighborhood people are. and the people in his circle are also the most important and determine whether he can change or not. Self-control is the first thing you need to realize to make him stop gambling too often. good steps also need to be taken to change his mindset, such as coming to a psychologist to ask what is happening to him and reveal that he cannot be separated from gambling.
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September 03, 2023, 08:20:03 PM
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Self-controlled is the only effective way to stop yourself from gambling completely. No matter how strongly a gambler is addicted to gambling, it is only possible to get out of gambling completely if he believes in himself and resolves to be free from all negative activities. But if self-restraint is not possible to get out of gambling then he must take motivational advice and talk to a good motivational consultant and then take effective measures.
No one can get rid of any addiction by self control alone. If a person becomes addicted to gambling and he wants to stop gambling completely then his family will be the most helpful for him, because in such a situation no one can stop any addiction without the help of family. When a gambler becomes addicted to gambling, the family has to bear the consequences of all his mistakes, so the family is the first to try to free him from this situation.

Yes, but the importance of self control is very important, if he does not have self control, then no motivation will be effective for him, he will go to a worse situation day by day.

Gambling addiction is often for men who can afford to spend money on gambling. Not for the less fortunate. Sometimes these people feel self-pride when they are tangled in gambling addiction. You can watch some of the interviews they have where they seem to feel proud when they spend 50K in one dice roll.

A possible measure would be to cut their source of funds. When they don't have money to spend, that's when they would stop. They may commit crimes, or robbery in order to have funds but they'd find out they relaly will stop gambling when they are in prison.


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September 03, 2023, 08:42:44 PM
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But, if under different circumstances the gambler has no family, then how will he recover and be free from addiction?
Of course this also depends on how good the neighborhood people are. and the people in his circle are also the most important and determine whether he can change or not. Self-control is the first thing you need to realize to make him stop gambling too often. good steps also need to be taken to change his mindset, such as coming to a psychologist to ask what is happening to him and reveal that he cannot be separated from gambling.
I have the same thoughts as you but only now I have the answer. in this problem I will look more at the friends around him whether they care about the condition of his friend who is addicted to gambling and loses a lot of money every day and I am sure of the many friends who are beside him surely some will really care about his addictive behavior only if a friend wants to cure his addiction, it will be a little difficult to give advice or take him to a rehabilitation center because gambling addicts always feel fine and if that happens to a gambling addict who realizes he wants to quit gambling it will be very easy for his friend to provide help to cure his addiction .

I fully support what you have said about how much the community cares about the addict but usually in some countries that prohibit gambling it will be very difficult to find people around who help gambling addicts to recover because the people around think if it is their own fault and go back to what What I said at the beginning is that only friends can help when you do not have family.

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September 03, 2023, 08:51:08 PM
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But, if under different circumstances the gambler has no family, then how will he recover and be free from addiction?
Of course this also depends on how good the neighborhood people are. and the people in his circle are also the most important and determine whether he can change or not. Self-control is the first thing you need to realize to make him stop gambling too often. good steps also need to be taken to change his mindset, such as coming to a psychologist to ask what is happening to him and reveal that he cannot be separated from gambling.
If the gambler has no family, his friends, relatives, neighbors may come forward to help him if he tells them about his situation. A relative of mine was going through a bad situation due to gambling addiction, then with the support of his family members including me, he learned self control and now he has come out of this situation. But it required a lot of time. So in this situation, if the gambler can be given mental energy by the people around him, it gives very effective results, so that he can quickly change himself. I found it very effective.

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September 03, 2023, 09:13:08 PM
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One thing for sure is if he cares about his future then he can somehow find a way to stop it and will change his views regarding luck and opportunity to become financial free and rich. honestly, there are lots of ways to achieve those goals and you don't seem to find it in playing the whole day and night on your computer especially when you win once and you lose thrice.

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September 03, 2023, 11:50:26 PM
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honestly, there are lots of ways to achieve those goals and you don't seem to find it in playing the whole day and night on your computer especially when you win once and you lose thrice.
Yup, what you'll find doing that is more motivation to keep on going. If someone has got to stop, he had probably done as many methods as he can.

But despite that, the discipline should be there and the initiative that your will to stop must be firm. Because when you have those, no matter how tempting it is to gamble, you'll find ways to abstain from it.

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One thing for sure is if he cares about his future then he can somehow find a way to stop it and will change his views regarding luck and opportunity to become financial free and rich. honestly, there are lots of ways to achieve those goals and you don't seem to find it in playing the whole day and night on your computer especially when you win once and you lose thrice.

from time to time, a person should assess himself of what he is now in life, and what he truly wants to achieve. because without assessment of what's going on with your life, you can easily lose track of your goals.
so do you really think if someone is in gambling, he will achieve his targets in life? i don't think so.

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~snip~I fully support what you have said about how much the community cares about the addict but usually in some countries that prohibit gambling it will be very difficult to find people around who help gambling addicts to recover because the people around think if it is their own fault and go back to what What I said at the beginning is that only friends can help when you do not have family.
If the gambler has no family, his friends, relatives, neighbors may come forward to help him if he tells them about his situation. A relative of mine was going through a bad situation due to gambling addiction, then with the support of his family members including me, he learned self control and now he has come out of this situation. But it required a lot of time. So in this situation, if the gambler can be given mental energy by the people around him, it gives very effective results, so that he can quickly change himself. I found it very effective.

Whether it's difficult or not depends on the people around you, but it's not that difficult, there will definitely be some people or neighbors who can help. A gambling addict is not like other crimes such as drugs or a fugitive, he is not dangerous, he just needs counseling or needs moral support so he can come to his senses and return to a normal life. Everyone has faults and they also deserve a second chance.
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~snip~I fully support what you have said about how much the community cares about the addict but usually in some countries that prohibit gambling it will be very difficult to find people around who help gambling addicts to recover because the people around think if it is their own fault and go back to what What I said at the beginning is that only friends can help when you do not have family.
If the gambler has no family, his friends, relatives, neighbors may come forward to help him if he tells them about his situation. A relative of mine was going through a bad situation due to gambling addiction, then with the support of his family members including me, he learned self control and now he has come out of this situation. But it required a lot of time. So in this situation, if the gambler can be given mental energy by the people around him, it gives very effective results, so that he can quickly change himself. I found it very effective.

Whether it's difficult or not depends on the people around you, but it's not that difficult, there will definitely be some people or neighbors who can help. A gambling addict is not like other crimes such as drugs or a fugitive, he is not dangerous, he just needs counseling or needs moral support so he can come to his senses and return to a normal life. Everyone has faults and they also deserve a second chance.

That is easier said than done unfortunately.I had a colleague in my office a couple of years ago which was heavily addicted not only to gambling but even to other bad things like alcohol,we kept talking to him a lot to change direction,not only us also his family as they were also working with the same company so he got daily a lot of moral lectures yet he continued to gamble and drink alcohol until one day his heart ceded and he has passed away at the age of 52,a young age I would say.This said story I posted here to show that it is with the same difficulty that is to convince a drug addict to persuade a gambling addict too,when the level of addiction is really high. 

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That is easier said than done unfortunately.I had a colleague in my office a couple of years ago which was heavily addicted not only to gambling but even to other bad things like alcohol,we kept talking to him a lot to change direction,not only us also his family as they were also working with the same company so he got daily a lot of moral lectures yet he continued to gamble and drink alcohol until one day his heart ceded and he has passed away at the age of 52,a young age I would say.This said story I posted here to show that it is with the same difficulty that is to convince a drug addict to persuade a gambling addict too,when the level of addiction is really high. 
It's quite sad about the story of your colleague who became a gambling addict until he died at the age of 52. Every effort was made to get him to stop, but nothing could get him to give up gambling and alcohol. It's easy to say, but in practice there will be various kinds of problems and obstacles that arise. It depends on each person's heart. Your colleague may still not find comfort other than gambling and there are other influences such as alcohol that make him increasingly out of control and maybe some drugs. Special rehabilitation is needed so that acute addicts can live a normal life without gambling, drugs and other negative effects.
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Whether it's difficult or not depends on the people around you, but it's not that difficult, there will definitely be some people or neighbors who can help. A gambling addict is not like other crimes such as drugs or a fugitive, he is not dangerous, he just needs counseling or needs moral support so he can come to his senses and return to a normal life. Everyone has faults and they also deserve a second chance.

That is easier said than done unfortunately.I had a colleague in my office a couple of years ago which was heavily addicted not only to gambling but even to other bad things like alcohol,we kept talking to him a lot to change direction,not only us also his family as they were also working with the same company so he got daily a lot of moral lectures yet he continued to gamble and drink alcohol until one day his heart ceded and he has passed away at the age of 52,a young age I would say.This said story I posted here to show that it is with the same difficulty that is to convince a drug addict to persuade a gambling addict too,when the level of addiction is really high. 

Totally agree with "Easier said than done", that's very true my friend. I have read your story about your colleague, it is very unfortunate. I will summarize a little here, in my opinion it is true that a gambler who is addicted and even when his addiction is at a high level they need the help of others, as you said, you have often told him and his family also played a role in lecturing him there, but unfortunately yes it did not enter him, I mean your colleague listened to the many suggestions that came but it did not enter his heart. He can't ponder or consider it, because maybe his addiction is so severe that he's almost completely dominated by his lust that any advice can't enter. I've also said this to a few people before, that gambling operates under people's subconscious, and maybe this is one of the reasons why it's difficult for them to accept advice from others. This kind of condition is quite confusing, I'm sure he also knows about what is best for him but he is unable to fight curiosity and lust that is almost perfectly formed in his mind. So in my opinion in this kind of problem it is no longer advice that is needed, but they need special supervision or maybe enter a place of rehabilitation.

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Totally agree with "Easier said than done", that's very true my friend. I have read your story about your colleague, it is very unfortunate. I will summarize a little here, in my opinion it is true that a gambler who is addicted and even when his addiction is at a high level they need the help of others, as you said, you have often told him and his family also played a role in lecturing him there, but unfortunately yes it did not enter him, I mean your colleague listened to the many suggestions that came but it did not enter his heart. He can't ponder or consider it, because maybe his addiction is so severe that he's almost completely dominated by his lust that any advice can't enter. I've also said this to a few people before, that gambling operates under people's subconscious, and maybe this is one of the reasons why it's difficult for them to accept advice from others. This kind of condition is quite confusing, I'm sure he also knows about what is best for him but he is unable to fight curiosity and lust that is almost perfectly formed in his mind. So in my opinion in this kind of problem it is no longer advice that is needed, but they need special supervision or maybe enter a place of rehabilitation.

The gambling addict will do the same,the hear all the advice from their co gamblers and friends.But they won’t get the advice into their heart,for this reason some gamblers won’t advise the addict as advice the normal people not to get addict.Because full of mind is filled with the gambling thoughts,if you speak more about the gambling.Then the gambling addict will answer you in the good way and if you advice they won’t accept your voice.This is not the common to the gambling addiction this was the response of the all time of the gambling addiction.If your friends get addicted to the drinking,they won’t stop after your words.Because he need to decide it,your words will not accept by their heart.
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September 04, 2023, 12:08:00 PM
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That is easier said than done unfortunately.I had a colleague in my office a couple of years ago which was heavily addicted not only to gambling but even to other bad things like alcohol,we kept talking to him a lot to change direction,not only us also his family as they were also working with the same company so he got daily a lot of moral lectures yet he continued to gamble and drink alcohol until one day his heart ceded and he has passed away at the age of 52,a young age I would say.This said story I posted here to show that it is with the same difficulty that is to convince a drug addict to persuade a gambling addict too,when the level of addiction is really high. 

This is the main problem with addicts - if they have the desire and will, they can quit on their own without anyone's advice and help. If they have no desire, then no lectures, advice and other help will help. The only alternative is violence (when a person is placed in a clinic and physically deprived of access to alcohol/gambling) but this happens quite rarely and mostly by court order (as far as I know).

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Whether it's difficult or not depends on the people around you, but it's not that difficult, there will definitely be some people or neighbors who can help. A gambling addict is not like other crimes such as drugs or a fugitive, he is not dangerous, he just needs counseling or needs moral support so he can come to his senses and return to a normal life. Everyone has faults and they also deserve a second chance.

That is easier said than done unfortunately.I had a colleague in my office a couple of years ago which was heavily addicted not only to gambling but even to other bad things like alcohol,we kept talking to him a lot to change direction,not only us also his family as they were also working with the same company so he got daily a lot of moral lectures yet he continued to gamble and drink alcohol until one day his heart ceded and he has passed away at the age of 52,a young age I would say.This said story I posted here to show that it is with the same difficulty that is to convince a drug addict to persuade a gambling addict too,when the level of addiction is really high. 

Totally agree with "Easier said than done", that's very true my friend. I have read your story about your colleague, it is very unfortunate. I will summarize a little here, in my opinion it is true that a gambler who is addicted and even when his addiction is at a high level they need the help of others, as you said, you have often told him and his family also played a role in lecturing him there, but unfortunately yes it did not enter him, I mean your colleague listened to the many suggestions that came but it did not enter his heart. He can't ponder or consider it, because maybe his addiction is so severe that he's almost completely dominated by his lust that any advice can't enter. I've also said this to a few people before, that gambling operates under people's subconscious, and maybe this is one of the reasons why it's difficult for them to accept advice from others. This kind of condition is quite confusing, I'm sure he also knows about what is best for him but he is unable to fight curiosity and lust that is almost perfectly formed in his mind. So in my opinion in this kind of problem it is no longer advice that is needed, but they need special supervision or maybe enter a place of rehabilitation.
Its a nuanced issue; advice often falls on deaf ears because the addict's mind operates on a different frequency. This frequency is influenced not just by lust or desire, but also by deeply rooted psychological triggers. Indeed, its a place where logic and well-meaning advice dont often penetrate.

However, I'd like to bring in the concept of "responsible gambling," which promotes setting limits, both in terms of time and money. And while its true that someone deeply addicted may need rehab, preemptive education can stop many from falling into that pit in the first place. If schools or communities could introduce the principles of healthy gambling alongside education about substance abuse... well, that could make some tremendous impacts

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September 04, 2023, 12:19:59 PM
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Totally agree with "Easier said than done", that's very true my friend. I have read your story about your colleague, it is very unfortunate. I will summarize a little here, in my opinion it is true that a gambler who is addicted and even when his addiction is at a high level they need the help of others, as you said, you have often told him and his family also played a role in lecturing him there, but unfortunately yes it did not enter him, I mean your colleague listened to the many suggestions that came but it did not enter his heart. He can't ponder or consider it, because maybe his addiction is so severe that he's almost completely dominated by his lust that any advice can't enter. I've also said this to a few people before, that gambling operates under people's subconscious, and maybe this is one of the reasons why it's difficult for them to accept advice from others. This kind of condition is quite confusing, I'm sure he also knows about what is best for him but he is unable to fight curiosity and lust that is almost perfectly formed in his mind. So in my opinion in this kind of problem it is no longer advice that is needed, but they need special supervision or maybe enter a place of rehabilitation.

The gambling addict will do the same,the hear all the advice from their co gamblers and friends.But they won’t get the advice into their heart,for this reason some gamblers won’t advise the addict as advice the normal people not to get addict.Because full of mind is filled with the gambling thoughts,if you speak more about the gambling.Then the gambling addict will answer you in the good way and if you advice they won’t accept your voice.This is not the common to the gambling addiction this was the response of the all time of the gambling addiction.If your friends get addicted to the drinking,they won’t stop after your words.
It's difficult when you're already in a situation like this, because having them realize it for themselves helps a lot. Maybe one of the situations that will make them realize they have to lose everything in their life first, and it must have been a very severe situation that they had to feel that.
We should also be able to take lessons from what happened, don't think that we can control ourselves and become good gamblers, because the chance that we can become addicts is still there. I mean the advice we give to others should be the first advice we give to ourselves.

Sometimes we can only advise others and forget to advise ourselves, do not let us feel the most righteous so that we can advise others, because in my opinion it is also not good for ourselves...,

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September 04, 2023, 12:34:10 PM
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That is easier said than done unfortunately.I had a colleague in my office a couple of years ago which was heavily addicted not only to gambling but even to other bad things like alcohol,we kept talking to him a lot to change direction,not only us also his family as they were also working with the same company so he got daily a lot of moral lectures yet he continued to gamble and drink alcohol until one day his heart ceded and he has passed away at the age of 52,a young age I would say.This said story I posted here to show that it is with the same difficulty that is to convince a drug addict to persuade a gambling addict too,when the level of addiction is really high. 

This is the main problem with addicts - if they have the desire and will, they can quit on their own without anyone's advice and help. If they have no desire, then no lectures, advice and other help will help. The only alternative is violence (when a person is placed in a clinic and physically deprived of access to alcohol/gambling) but this happens quite rarely and mostly by court order (as far as I know).

Yes, I agree with you, the various advice that comes to them (gamblers) will most likely not have any effect and if it does happen it is very unlikely, as you said they do it with enthusiasm for things they find fun and yes that's how it is exists. it's too much for them, but I agree that if their passion disappears or they get bored of doing it then their interest will also disappear, and maybe they will stop themselves. My example, usually a few months ago to be honest I gambled almost every day even every hour, I was very happy to be there and I couldn't afford to spend a single day not gambling, even though in the end losing dominated. But what is surprising is that now somehow the feeling of wanting to gamble has slowly disappeared within me, in fact I very rarely imagine my winnings at that time, to be honest, boredom appears in my mind to come back again. playing there, and at the moment I have almost never gambled for the last two months, this is really lucky in my opinion because indirectly I can finally stop a little slowly and hopefully this continues.

Yes, that is a good alternative and we can choose if someone's level of addiction is out of control, requires special treatment for the problem, and by undergoing rehabilitation it is very possible to recover a little because the rules are clear. there is very strict and there is no access whatsoever for them to do gambling or anything like alcoholic beverages.

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September 04, 2023, 01:04:24 PM
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One thing for sure is if he cares about his future then he can somehow find a way to stop it and will change his views regarding luck and opportunity to become financial free and rich. honestly, there are lots of ways to achieve those goals and you don't seem to find it in playing the whole day and night on your computer especially when you win once and you lose thrice.

from time to time, a person should assess himself of what he is now in life, and what he truly wants to achieve. because without assessment of what's going on with your life, you can easily lose track of your goals.
so do you really think if someone is in gambling, he will achieve his targets in life? i don't think so.
I agree and much more impossible if the whole life we keep on gambling. Why? because the more we gamble, the more we lose - a sad reality. If ever we make big wins today, we possibly lose big amounts in the next few days. It is just like we are playing our own money while the casino gives nothing to us aside from being entertained and enjoying the game.
If we really could think deeply and care about our future, we wouldn't have to do this but because we are looking for a place to relax ourselves, we gamble until we become addicted.



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September 04, 2023, 01:23:12 PM
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That is easier said than done unfortunately.I had a colleague in my office a couple of years ago which was heavily addicted not only to gambling but even to other bad things like alcohol,we kept talking to him a lot to change direction,not only us also his family as they were also working with the same company so he got daily a lot of moral lectures yet he continued to gamble and drink alcohol until one day his heart ceded and he has passed away at the age of 52,a young age I would say.This said story I posted here to show that it is with the same difficulty that is to convince a drug addict to persuade a gambling addict too,when the level of addiction is really high. 

This is the main problem with addicts - if they have the desire and will, they can quit on their own without anyone's advice and help. If they have no desire, then no lectures, advice and other help will help. The only alternative is violence (when a person is placed in a clinic and physically deprived of access to alcohol/gambling) but this happens quite rarely and mostly by court order (as far as I know).
I know someone who's like this. Of course, for gambling and other vices addicts, they are in denial about their addiction. No matter how much you tell them and the consequences of their actions, their minds are not open about it. They won't understand that they are already in a bad state, being addicted to gambling (or other addictions) and they'll never see how much it affects them and the people around them. Even me, I am so curious on how you could open someone's mind and understanding about his situation so he could try to change their habits. Like, what kind of words do they need to hear for them to realize these things and try to stop their addiction. Or how and what kind of situation do they have to be in, so that they would suddenly change their minds to wanting to stop gambling?
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September 04, 2023, 02:04:46 PM
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One thing for sure is if he cares about his future then he can somehow find a way to stop it and will change his views regarding luck and opportunity to become financial free and rich. honestly, there are lots of ways to achieve those goals and you don't seem to find it in playing the whole day and night on your computer especially when you win once and you lose thrice.

from time to time, a person should assess himself of what he is now in life, and what he truly wants to achieve. because without assessment of what's going on with your life, you can easily lose track of your goals.
so do you really think if someone is in gambling, he will achieve his targets in life? i don't think so.

Just like planning way ahead of time so that you won't lose your sense of direction and mistakes are somehow avoidable because you already though about it. And from that point, you should check your situation from time to time to see if things are going exactly as planned but if there are some deviations, then I guess you should also know how to rectify that so that you can go back to your original course. Might be easy to say, I know, but these things are just challenges in life because there is no shortcut to success.

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