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I simply can't find the connection between the headline and OP's thread... Reckless gambling is when we start pushing like there's a big win waiting for us just around the corner, and yes sometimes it starts after winning x2/x3/x4/x5 of the deposit we made, and instead of withdrawing we start playing like crazy until we bust all the winnings and deposit. Happened to me a lot of times over the years... So I like the headline, it describes a certain situation that happens a lot of times in gambling.
But the thread about the addiction is a bit silly... Some people get hooked sooner and some later, people are different. I guess it's not important if someone is addicted and when it started... we are all addicts in some way or ways, it's important that we have some control and know how much we can relax with gambling and all other fun stuff.
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Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
Most of the time that's the initial reason why they got addicted. But, it could also be the other way around. After losing. Chasing what was gone. Getting revenge. Until the gambling site gives you back the money but you would want more and not just ROI. Greed had been the main reason for addiction. I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
This is one mistake that I surely regret and I try to avoid it now. Increasing the bets as soon as you win a big jackpot. It's so wrong that you will feel that the profits are being taken back from you and more. It's the reason why the martingale strategy doesn't really work unless you have unlimited money in your pocket. Testing it will just rekt our balance and worst we cannot get it back even by using different strategies.
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Yes, addiction only starts after you taste the winning. Once you win, you get more anxious and try to win more and more. Here the addiction to make money in shorter period of time increases. This gambling addiction only seen in rich people to be honest. They can afford to lose and for them winning is like a challenge. So if they don’t win, they take it personally and gambles till they gets a green. So yes reckless gambling only starts after a win round.
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August 09, 2023, 09:29:40 AM |
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Not generally for everyone, some people run as fast as they could when they lose money from any investment for the first time.
That's why we have some people till date saying Bitcoin is a scam, they lost their Bitcoin because of their foolishness yet they put the blame on Bitcoin.
Most people are like this, but some only get encourages after one success, Now when it comes to gambling, it depends on where it all begins.
If you see a friend of yours making money through gambling, you can become addicted automatically because you've seen someone who is making money through gambling, I remember when I entered into crypto, I never saw someone making live changing money until people dropped proof or screenshots of what their Bitcoin would have worth if they haven't sold. It encourages me.
If you know nothing about gambling and you have no one around you that's into gambling, your fear rate will be very high, if you lose money once you don't look back, you will run, and the chances are high.
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August 09, 2023, 10:27:09 AM |
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-snip- But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
Maybe this urge is real for some gamblers after a certain level of big wins, and yes they tend not to have or forget about their plans due to the fact that these kind of moments are really rare which can change their betting patterns. I remember a thread in the past about this kind of planning, I think it's worth using to write your big plan as a gambler when you get an unexpected number of wins.
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August 09, 2023, 11:12:11 AM |
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It depends on the person. Some people will feel the urge to continue playing after winning but some people started to become addicted after feeling the urge to get a win. I experienced the craving to win a particular game at a festival. So I started to gamble with the urge and I did not even care how much I spent as long as I will win that particular game.
But personally, I believe that gambling addiction becomes a habit when someone is not financially literate and then it is more likely to occur when the person is not physically and mentally occupied.
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August 09, 2023, 11:29:20 AM |
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Yes, addiction only starts after you taste the winning. Once you win, you get more anxious and try to win more and more. Here the addiction to make money in shorter period of time increases. This gambling addiction only seen in rich people to be honest. They can afford to lose and for them winning is like a challenge. So if they don’t win, they take it personally and gambles till they gets a green. So yes reckless gambling only starts after a win round.
sometimes this is a trap from some gambling sites lol. to let us win at first , then take your money forever ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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August 09, 2023, 12:05:09 PM |
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Yes, addiction only starts after you taste the winning. Once you win, you get more anxious and try to win more and more. Here the addiction to make money in shorter period of time increases. This gambling addiction only seen in rich people to be honest. They can afford to lose and for them winning is like a challenge. So if they don’t win, they take it personally and gambles till they gets a green. So yes reckless gambling only starts after a win round.
sometimes this is a trap from some gambling sites lol. to let us win at first , then take your money forever ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Ive also noticed this, but before people are really smart, they are just hitting the new account luck or algorithm of the casino, and they will start to withdraw their money, but right now we can't do it because of the betting requirements before you can withdraw. This kind of stuff makes you win your first bet, but you still need to reach specific values or betting requirements, which leads you to deposit and play more. Casinos are really smart right now; they make you win and make you feel lucky so that you can deposit more, and then that is where you start losing.
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You see the best example of this, when you look at the way that Slots are designed. It will allow you to constantly win small amounts in the form of free spins.
So your body (brain) release small amounts of endorphins that makes you feel good.. and you get addicted to those endorphins. This is where the addiction sets in... because you get addicted to those endorphins... not the actions of gambling it self.
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August 09, 2023, 01:12:28 PM |
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I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
It will motivate you to go on and if you proceed and follow your motivation yes it will likely lead to addiction but if you experience a lot of losses early on, that will stop your addiction, addiction happens when you treat gambling as your scapegoat the amount of time will accumulate and so is your spending and that will lead to addiction. Winning will not get you into addiction right away, but giving it more time and internalizing the gambling experience, will lead you to addiction. So every gambler should watch out for what they are thinking if they're still thinking about their bets and what would they bet when they are still in their work.
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August 09, 2023, 01:37:52 PM |
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There are many, many ways to get addicted to gambling op. Winning is just one of them. Chasing losses, trying out a huge variety of games etc are some other ways to completely lose yourself in the world of gambling.
Inner will-power or self-control is the only way to control any form of gambling addiction if you ask me.
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But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts? Some people being oppotuned to have a first experience win when they gambles, they will also think that will be a continuous process that at every attempts they will also get that same luck and the whole process continues, but things weren't like that in reality, gambling is not a game we played and already know what will be the outcome right before the bet, so on the attempt to make this come a reality, the gambler keep loosing instead of winning as they keep with making subsequent trials. Yes, at that moment is when the player has to reason and understand that when he is in a casino the chances of winning for a player are low, there will always be the house advantage and that is something that exists in every casino, in fact, I have Seeing that some novice players don't give much importance to this, and they keep playing, and since they win and win, they keep playing until they start the losing streak and they don't stop, when they lose everything, they don't like the result, obviously after seeing so much money that you have had and then you are left with nothing, the idea that the casino stole it will haunt the player's mind and some do not react well to the casino because they start to complain, that after having so much money it is impossible for them to lose that, that the game is fixed, that everything is a fraud, but what they do not realize is that they do not take into account the main thing, which is the house advantage and that they made the wrong bets, that it is very difficult for just one person managed to beat an established casino. Sometimes this kind of thing is difficult for many people to understand and I understand them, because sometimes that feeling of guilt can lead them to a moment of great regret, of having remorse, of not having been in control and not having the guts. to leave the game when he had that money, because if he had left it up there, he would have left with the money, and the casino would not have claimed anything from him, sometimes those things happen when there is not enough maturity in the casinos, here Who hasn't had losses that make them almost cry? I think that we have all had big losses and that even so, they have known how to get up and move on, because they know and understand that the greatest probability is that, that the casino is not like an ATM, nor does it regulate money, or is it a NGO, but they are an industry that is dedicated to creating "ADULT" fun so that they can have experiences where the adrenaline accelerates with everything.
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That's drive and greed. We often disregard the reality that losing is more certain than winning. Experiencing victory gives us the drive that something impossible have been achieved, which pushes us to go further. On the other hand is greed or seeking more of what you have earned not realizing how long it took to be in such instance. This is where gamblers tend to be reckless and where frustrations arise once that drive and greed are not met with the intention which is to win more. We tend to disregard the consequences of our actions once we're on the rush. There are many, many ways to get addicted to gambling op. Winning is just one of them. Chasing losses, trying out a huge variety of games etc are some other ways to completely lose yourself in the world of gambling.
Inner will-power or self-control is the only way to control any form of gambling addiction if you ask me.
Whether it is chasing losses or wanting to win, we all have one goal which is to earn money out of gambling. It is indeed easy to set standards for ourselves but will never be too easy to apply.
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Gozie51
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August 09, 2023, 04:55:12 PM |
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Inner will-power or self-control is the only way to control any form of gambling addiction if you ask me.
The state where you lose self control then you will slide into addiction as you keep going into the game frequently whether you are winning or not. In all lives endeavor, if there is no self control then the person will act irrationally because he has no control of his actions. A bettor on a winning mode will keep playing irrespective of his win likewise he who is losing just because the will power of control has been lost.
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Docnaster
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August 09, 2023, 07:14:10 PM |
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Yes, addiction only starts after you taste the winning. Once you win, you get more anxious and try to win more and more. Here the addiction to make money in shorter period of time increases. This gambling addiction only seen in rich people to be honest. They can afford to lose and for them winning is like a challenge. So if they don’t win, they take it personally and gambles till they gets a green. So yes reckless gambling only starts after a win round.
You actually saw this from the right angle unlike so many that are arguing Op who saw this from a very different angle. Winning $200 will be a motivation that more efforts will land you $500 winning and when you chase the $500 winning and eventually earns it, you will have more conviction that those who wins $10k are not luckier than you are. Before you will realise, you will start chasing the $10k and forget the losses that you encounter in the process of the chase. That is how addiction starts and nothing more than that.
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if we take 100 people who play games of chance and ask these 100 people why they are playing, most of the 100 people will answer that they are playing because they want to have fun, so if we ask them if they are happy when they lose, we will hear answers like : NO. but that is an obvious answer. now if we make a little comparison about fun. one person has 50$ and goes to the beach and spends it all on food, takes pictures and buys some things and goes home happy and with 0$, another person takes 50$ and goes to a restaurant to drink beer and eat with friends and takes pictures and come home very late and with 0$
another person takes 50$ and stays at home playing in some online casino, stays for a few hours and loses everything. when we put the three people together the next day and ask how your previous day was, the answer will be obvious: the guy who stayed at home gambling and lost everything in the games of chance will be sad and regret having played, if he had won he would be celebrating. so was he playing for fun or money? no doubt it was for the money. Nobody likes to lose, and it's precisely because nobody likes to lose that when people lose they play even more to recover everything they lost.
and with that they become addicted to gambling, people start to isolate themselves from the real world, they get depressed due to many defeats, that's why even if they won they wouldn't stop playing, because they want to win more, games should be seen as fun, something people look at and know I'm going to bet 10$ and if I lose it's okay and in the next game don't think about the 10$ you lost, don't bet for revenge and don't bet to recover the 10$, go back to bet 10 $ as always
you play for action and the blessing of lady luck. you know you should lose you lie and think you will win when you do win more often than you should you think you have been blessed because lady luck loves you.
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August 09, 2023, 07:33:37 PM |
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Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
When the person starts chasing the loss he'd made. That's when he takes a dive deeper and will probably end up gambling more and losing more as well. At first, he will look for strategies to win and tries these strategies with some amount of money. The next he will try another game as well he never knew before just thinking he would win. It doesn't really start with a win before a person will try over and over but usually, it is after a win that drives his hope.
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August 09, 2023, 07:56:15 PM |
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Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
When the person starts chasing the loss he'd made. That's when he takes a dive deeper and will probably end up gambling more and losing more as well. At first, he will look for strategies to win and tries these strategies with some amount of money. The next he will try another game as well he never knew before just thinking he would win. It doesn't really start with a win before a person will try over and over but usually, it is after a win that drives his hope. I have found out that anytime I keep betting to gain the past loses I had, I mostly end up in loses because of the greedy spirit that will keep telling me to gamble more. We need to stop chasing our loses because this is one of the ways casinos do make money from gamblers without them noticing that they are choosing the wrong steps that could yield crazy loses. Once we made loses, we should learn how to admit our loses and chase the next opportunity we might have as a gambler. Looking back is one of the ways we can finally make loses that could reap us of our entires winnings and savings so far. Those that had taken the decision of chasing there loses most time end in bettered and inevitable loses.
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Casdinyard
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August 09, 2023, 08:08:06 PM |
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While you could be right, I say reckless gambling really starts after that first 2 losses. People can easily just dip and take their cuts after the first win, I do that all the time and yet there are instances when I let my greed get the better of me and I continue gambling away since I don't mind losing the bankroll anyway. Losing 2 games in a row however is more mentally pressuring since you've already lost a considerable amount of money by then, one that you couldn't recover outright in a single win. So people tend to go ham during these situations and actually push through instead of cutting their losses and stopping from there, which as we all expect leads to them losing more money than they know how to work with.
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Wiwo
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August 09, 2023, 08:47:52 PM |
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Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
When the person starts chasing the loss he'd made. That's when he takes a dive deeper and will probably end up gambling more and losing more as well. At first, he will look for strategies to win and tries these strategies with some amount of money. The next he will try another game as well he never knew before just thinking he would win. It doesn't really start with a win before a person will try over and over but usually, it is after a win that drives his hope. One of the worst-case of gambling addiction is always traceable to a user trying to chase a particular directions this can be in either ways both chassing loses vs chasing winning whatever direction you face it, it always leads to bad aftermath experience and cases of slidding into gambling addictions. Winning your first game could be a trap to gamble more and excessively, but the gambler with an indept understanding of this will always walk away when he wins his first strides and take a long break to re strategize for the next game.
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