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August 14, 2023, 08:16:18 AM
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in this condition it is caused by greed which results in losses and regrets and after that does the same thing until it becomes addicted because of chasing and continues to chase losses because of losing big wins. this is a normal condition and almost old gamblers have experienced problems like this, even I myself have experienced when I got a win but kept betting in the hope of winning even more without realizing that I lost all my winnings.
and in this case having the mindset to know when to start to stop betting will be very important when you get a loss or win in the specified amount, you must quit immediately, avoid emotions that are getting higher and lose control to continue betting without thinking about the long term.
So almost all gamblers who have been gambling for a long time have almost the same experience and keep trying to chase their losses. But when they want to chase wins or try to recover their losses, they are not successful and even if someone manages to get their money back, there will still be losses from previous gambling. But some gamblers can realize their mistake and try to stop it as soon as possible before they get another loss. And that's where they come from, the gamblers try to practice self-control so they don't interfere with their gambling and can still enjoy gambling. And since then, their gambling goal has changed, not chasing wins or recovering from losses.
of course they will prefer to control themselves well even though they have experienced the same problem in the past but experienced gamblers will have good control in the future without doing bad things again unless addiction continues to destroy self control. but sometimes experienced gamblers sometimes still make mistakes in the future when one day a losing streak occurs and he loses control and is more emotional to be motivated to chase these losses but it rarely happens like that.
I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.

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August 14, 2023, 08:41:37 AM
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If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.
That's true and that's where you're just getting started and you're going to get more of it once you try again for the 2nd and more around.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?
The excitement just starts there and then when the taste of winning is in there, that's how it is going to go. You'll keep to do more of it and likely think that winning is easy and you can do it at most times, that's when you'll try more rounds until you've got nothing left anymore.

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?
Yup, that's even more dangerous because you're craving to win and that's why you'll keep going until you finally get some wins.

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.
Not really but everything that contributes to the excitement and crave that you're having, winning is one of it.

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August 14, 2023, 11:13:18 AM
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in this condition it is caused by greed which results in losses and regrets and after that does the same thing until it becomes addicted because of chasing and continues to chase losses because of losing big wins. this is a normal condition and almost old gamblers have experienced problems like this, even I myself have experienced when I got a win but kept betting in the hope of winning even more without realizing that I lost all my winnings.
and in this case having the mindset to know when to start to stop betting will be very important when you get a loss or win in the specified amount, you must quit immediately, avoid emotions that are getting higher and lose control to continue betting without thinking about the long term.
So almost all gamblers who have been gambling for a long time have almost the same experience and keep trying to chase their losses. But when they want to chase wins or try to recover their losses, they are not successful and even if someone manages to get their money back, there will still be losses from previous gambling. But some gamblers can realize their mistake and try to stop it as soon as possible before they get another loss. And that's where they come from, the gamblers try to practice self-control so they don't interfere with their gambling and can still enjoy gambling. And since then, their gambling goal has changed, not chasing wins or recovering from losses.
of course they will prefer to control themselves well even though they have experienced the same problem in the past but experienced gamblers will have good control in the future without doing bad things again unless addiction continues to destroy self control. but sometimes experienced gamblers sometimes still make mistakes in the future when one day a losing streak occurs and he loses control and is more emotional to be motivated to chase these losses but it rarely happens like that.
I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.

No one can say that they are no longer committing mistake, even experienced gamblers sometimes exceed from their limits, what is good among them is they are willing to forget about it and manage to move forward after, unlike with addicted gamblers, they will do everything to continue up to the point that they will use the last money that they have from their savings, the mindset is far different between experience gamblers and those who are already addicted.

Experienced gamblers can control their lust and desire, while amateur will always think that they can take money if they will continue to try,

The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.

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August 14, 2023, 12:16:06 PM
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Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

It might happen become addicted despite never getting a big win, because everyone will have a different response to the results of the gambling they experience, some end up giving up because they lost, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that they are curious because they are involved in gambling because they see friends or anyone who wins by a very large amount, so you don't need to win to eventually become addicted and usually people who are addicted are those who cannot control their thoughts properly, so they always think of gambling and whenever temptation comes they will immediately do it because they have no self-control, but those who can control themselves will never experience any obstacles including when there is an opportunity to gamble but do not do it for other reasons and activities that are far more important.

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August 14, 2023, 12:29:33 PM
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Obviously addiction started after you win some good amount of money and it will make you to gamble more by wishing you will make more money. Even though win some of good amount money is the first reason why someone get addicted, but multiple lose streak is another important reason of addiction. Because if someone didn't suffer multiple lose streak, it's mean the gambler is winning isn't? Cheesy

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August 14, 2023, 01:14:17 PM
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Obviously addiction started after you win some good amount of money and it will make you to gamble more by wishing you will make more money. Even though win some of good amount money is the first reason why someone get addicted, but multiple lose streak is another important reason of addiction. Because if someone didn't suffer multiple lose streak, it's mean the gambler is winning isn't? Cheesy
Definitely, once you keep winning in gambling, you get addicted to the feeling of it, and it can be tempting to keep on going. But keep in your mind that your luck can change at any moment, or else you won't notice that you already lost all your winnings in one snap. Setting limits for ourselves and knowing when to walk away can help us avoid losing everything we've won. Gamble responsibly within your means and be mindful, to refrain from any difficult and stressful problem you may encounter once you get addicted to it. 
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August 14, 2023, 03:02:32 PM
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Obviously addiction started after you win some good amount of money and it will make you to gamble more by wishing you will make more money. Even though win some of good amount money is the first reason why someone get addicted, but multiple lose streak is another important reason of addiction. Because if someone didn't suffer multiple lose streak, it's mean the gambler is winning isn't? Cheesy
Definitely, once you keep winning in gambling, you get addicted to the feeling of it, and it can be tempting to keep on going. But keep in your mind that your luck can change at any moment, or else you won't notice that you already lost all your winnings in one snap. Setting limits for ourselves and knowing when to walk away can help us avoid losing everything we've won. Gamble responsibly within your means and be mindful, to refrain from any difficult and stressful problem you may encounter once you get addicted to it. 
Agreed, when a gambler is on the winning side the mind will be thinking of having more. This could end with massive loss, and the luckiest will be able to be successful with the right exit. When someone is on the losing side, the mind always thinks of recovering what have been lost earlier. Everyone doesn't have the patience to set limits and spend accordingly. As suggested when you gamble within the limits, automatically the gambling activity will be interesting and there won't be much of impact felt as the loss/win doesn't affect life in any means.

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August 14, 2023, 03:25:58 PM
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in this condition it is caused by greed which results in losses and regrets and after that does the same thing until it becomes addicted because of chasing and continues to chase losses because of losing big wins. this is a normal condition and almost old gamblers have experienced problems like this, even I myself have experienced when I got a win but kept betting in the hope of winning even more without realizing that I lost all my winnings.
and in this case having the mindset to know when to start to stop betting will be very important when you get a loss or win in the specified amount, you must quit immediately, avoid emotions that are getting higher and lose control to continue betting without thinking about the long term.
So almost all gamblers who have been gambling for a long time have almost the same experience and keep trying to chase their losses. But when they want to chase wins or try to recover their losses, they are not successful and even if someone manages to get their money back, there will still be losses from previous gambling. But some gamblers can realize their mistake and try to stop it as soon as possible before they get another loss. And that's where they come from, the gamblers try to practice self-control so they don't interfere with their gambling and can still enjoy gambling. And since then, their gambling goal has changed, not chasing wins or recovering from losses.
of course they will prefer to control themselves well even though they have experienced the same problem in the past but experienced gamblers will have good control in the future without doing bad things again unless addiction continues to destroy self control. but sometimes experienced gamblers sometimes still make mistakes in the future when one day a losing streak occurs and he loses control and is more emotional to be motivated to chase these losses but it rarely happens like that.
I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.

No one can say that they are no longer committing mistake, even experienced gamblers sometimes exceed from their limits, what is good among them is they are willing to forget about it and manage to move forward after, unlike with addicted gamblers, they will do everything to continue up to the point that they will use the last money that they have from their savings, the mindset is far different between experience gamblers and those who are already addicted.

Experienced gamblers can control their lust and desire, while amateur will always think that they can take money if they will continue to try,

The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.

these people who declare themselves to be professional gamblers are very intelligent people, they realized very early on that they would not be able to beat the casinos or bookmakers, for that reason they thought of another way to earn money, these other ways that they thought were something related to gambling too, but different from gambling which are things that do not bring guaranteed profit, on the contrary they cause more losses, these people who consider themselves professional gamblers created accounts on youtube, twitch, instagram, telegram and facebook and with that these people started to create content (videos) in which they teach courses, give tips on how to place bets and where to place bets

no guesses either, and as their channels over time got a lot of followers so they started to be sponsored by casinos and bookmakers, this made them earn a lot of money and consistently. it's not the victories that lead people to become addicted to gambling, because few people manage to obtain victories in gambling, what makes people addicted are the defeats, nobody likes to lose, but few people accept the defeat. people create high expectations before starting the game, they are confident that they have won, that they will make a profit

but at the end of the game they realize that they have lost, they are facing defeats, they are facing money and lost time. it is easier for a person to accept that he spent 100$ in a restaurant where he went to consume beer, but that same person will not accept losing 100$ in the casino, for that person after losing starts to think that he could have taken the 100$ and gone to drink beer with friends, with that thought the person will continue playing until he manages to win a lot to recover all the losses. and what follows will be frustration and addiction. unfortunately few people can take advantage of this gambling market and profit

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August 14, 2023, 03:31:54 PM
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Experienced gamblers can control their lust and desire, while amateur will always think that they can take money if they will continue to try,

The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.


It’s not about controlling lust and desire but rather they learn how to be satisfied when they play gambling because they knew exactly what their goal on gambling. If peope can control lust and desire then they shouldn’t gamble already but instead control it within themselves.

As an experienced gambler, I cherish all my gamblin games win or lose and this makes me entertained when gambling including the short pain when losing my money. An amateur addicted gambler doesn’t know what they really want to get and blindly gambling just to chase their unknown profit target.
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August 14, 2023, 04:54:51 PM
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Experienced gamblers can control their lust and desire, while amateur will always think that they can take money if they will continue to try,

The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.


It’s not about controlling lust and desire but rather they learn how to be satisfied when they play gambling because they knew exactly what their goal on gambling. If peope can control lust and desire then they shouldn’t gamble already but instead control it within themselves.

As an experienced gambler, I cherish all my gamblin games win or lose and this makes me entertained when gambling including the short pain when losing my money. An amateur addicted gambler doesn’t know what they really want to get and blindly gambling just to chase their unknown profit target.

So there is an amateur addict and there is a seasoned addict lol
The seasoned addict my guess is already satisfied and can just quit at any moment if he decides. The majority of the newbie that is hooked on winning money through the casino is often going to chase the loss since every gambler is doing it to win some of them are even planning to stop when they win their capital back. Only to find out later, they decide to roll again thinking why can't he just double his capital before stopping.

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We have different individual approach or mindset towards gambling from my own personal perspective winning a bet doesn't set off addiction in me because I knew gambling is a game of chance and luck thus a consistent winning streaks isn't possible and never guaranteed in most cases I do withdraw my winnings after two or three wins and left with the small fund for staking another bet rather than leaving the whole funds with hope of staking high to win massively that is when addiction and greediness will set in, however when I lose the only small fund for betting I prefer to fund my account with the same amount of fund just to avoid addiction and chasing my losses.
I agree that putting a limitation on how much you deposit could be the most important part. That allows you to end up gambling as much as you can and earn as much as you can but it does end up putting a limit on how much you could lose.

This means that the result will be something better and the return will be greater whereas the loss will not be all that big. I end up earning some money time to time but I do not end up losing a lot because no matter how much I win, the deposit is there and it's limited and I will not redeposit more neither. So I could lose from the earnings, as in I could deposit 100 dollars, and still lose 1000 dollars, how? I could turn that 100 into 1000 and then lose it all. But in the end all I lost was 100 dollars to me.
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August 15, 2023, 06:07:34 AM
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of course they will prefer to control themselves well even though they have experienced the same problem in the past but experienced gamblers will have good control in the future without doing bad things again unless addiction continues to destroy self control. but sometimes experienced gamblers sometimes still make mistakes in the future when one day a losing streak occurs and he loses control and is more emotional to be motivated to chase these losses but it rarely happens like that.
I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.
Experienced gamblers should have more self-control because they learn to control themselves over time. And the problems they experienced in the past will not be repeated with the learning about self-control that they do from time to time. And it is true that experienced gamblers still make mistakes because they are still human beings who can still make mistakes in the future. But at least their self-control will improve with that learning so that they become more controlled and unemotional in gambling. I agree that all of this is about self-control that every gambler must have so they will not lose a lot of money in gambling.

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August 15, 2023, 09:35:38 AM
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Experienced gamblers can control their lust and desire, while amateur will always think that they can take money if they will continue to try,

The rest of it will be dictate with what the outcome will turn. Worst, an amateur will turn to addicted gambler.


It’s not about controlling lust and desire but rather they learn how to be satisfied when they play gambling because they knew exactly what their goal on gambling. If peope can control lust and desire then they shouldn’t gamble already but instead control it within themselves.

As an experienced gambler, I cherish all my gamblin games win or lose and this makes me entertained when gambling including the short pain when losing my money. An amateur addicted gambler doesn’t know what they really want to get and blindly gambling just to chase their unknown profit target.


It's easy to say your target but once your lust and desire dominated you that target will be forgotten, it's more on how you control and how good you are in preventing any excess, being satisfied might be a factor but most of the time when you are involve into gambling greed is something that dominates you.

Good thing that you can cherish everything, including your losses, as most of the time gambler who suffer from defeats always wanted to try to recover back and it leads them into addictions.


of course they will prefer to control themselves well even though they have experienced the same problem in the past but experienced gamblers will have good control in the future without doing bad things again unless addiction continues to destroy self control. but sometimes experienced gamblers sometimes still make mistakes in the future when one day a losing streak occurs and he loses control and is more emotional to be motivated to chase these losses but it rarely happens like that.
I think all of this is just about self control which we say is easy but very difficult to do because gambling risks money so when you lose the money regret and the feeling of wanting to take the money back is always in the gambler mind.
Experienced gamblers should have more self-control because they learn to control themselves over time. And the problems they experienced in the past will not be repeated with the learning about self-control that they do from time to time. And it is true that experienced gamblers still make mistakes because they are still human beings who can still make mistakes in the future. But at least their self-control will improve with that learning so that they become more controlled and unemotional in gambling. I agree that all of this is about self-control that every gambler must have so they will not lose a lot of money in gambling.

Best thing to adopt is when you learn from your experienced, and that's the big edge of those experienced gamblers who manage to learn how to control things while inside gambling, knowing the set limits and try not to exceed helps them to prevent big losses, though still not a guarantee that they won't lose but it lessen the chance that they will burn all of their bankroll.

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August 15, 2023, 10:23:02 AM
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If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.


When you haven't won a dime and no one you know won anything, you can't become addicted because there'd be nothing to become addicted to. When you win, you feel good, and want that feeling again. If alcohol wouldn't make you feel good, there would be no alcoholics. Same with gambling: who wants just spend their time and money and get nothing in return?

But it's not like everyone who wins big becomes addicted right away. It's only those greedy for money and excitement. They don't realize that our brain adapts quickly, and you need more and more in the future to feel the same. That leads to "gambling recklessly" and "betting higher", you mentioned. To not end up there, you should be betting smaller and less often.

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August 15, 2023, 11:47:16 AM
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If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.


When you haven't won a dime and no one you know won anything, you can't become addicted because there'd be nothing to become addicted to. When you win, you feel good, and want that feeling again. If alcohol wouldn't make you feel good, there would be no alcoholics. Same with gambling: who wants just spend their time and money and get nothing in return?

But it's not like everyone who wins big becomes addicted right away. It's only those greedy for money and excitement. They don't realize that our brain adapts quickly, and you need more and more in the future to feel the same. That leads to "gambling recklessly" and "betting higher", you mentioned. To not end up there, you should be betting smaller and less often.

Well that makes a little sense because what causes an addict is because they have tasted the victory that they think is big there, and after that they will lose and then that's where they will chase the victory and then accompanied by a sense of addiction. That's right, the prize in gambling is money and the logic is that everyone needs money, so it's only natural that now a lot of people are addicted and even trapped there. Addiction or not in my opinion it depends more on each person, I will mention for those who are easily provoked or curious and also easily emotional then it is very certain that they will experience addiction. What is needed here is just a good and appropriate self-control factor, but the problem is not everyone can do this because gambling moves in their subconscious and it will always coexist with curiosity and emotions, so the fact is that it is difficult to do these limits in it. I also feel this way and it is difficult to do but to reduce it is certainly possible, and you should do more other activities to rest your brain in gambling. 

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August 15, 2023, 01:11:25 PM
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I totally get what you're saying. Starting out, it's like dipping your toes in the water—you're not really sure what to expect, right? But once you get that first taste of victory, things can shift. It's like this rush, and suddenly you're thinking, "Hey, there might be more where that came from!" That's where things can get tricky, and the whole gambling addiction thing starts creeping in.

In my opinion, the first taste of victory does not cause gambling addiction and only provokes a novice to further study gambling, but when behind your back will be enough wins and losses and you get used to the production of dopamine during gambling and instead of meeting with friends you will give preference to the casino, that's when you will definitely have a gambling addiction. In my opinion it is not gambling addiction that is scary, but irresponsibility of a gambler.

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August 15, 2023, 01:21:41 PM
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In my opinion, the first taste of victory does not cause gambling addiction and only provokes a novice to further study gambling, but when behind your back will be enough wins and losses and you get used to the production of dopamine during gambling and instead of meeting with friends you will give preference to the casino, that's when you will definitely have a gambling addiction. In my opinion it is not gambling addiction that is scary, but irresponsibility of a gambler.

A novice won't start gambling without understanding how it works. An initial win would further cement his belief that gambling can be a source of income. As things progress and loss start accumulating that novice would try to gamble more in order to cover the loss. This is where they would make the mistake of using the money that they cannot afford to lose. Then they would try to borrow money from friends and family. If they win big they are able to repay the borrowed amount if not then they would find others to borrow and ultimately fall into the gambling debt trap. Reckless gambling is nothing but getting overconfident with the ability to make a win.
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August 15, 2023, 03:14:34 PM
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I think you are wrong on this. What the OP is talking about is the scenario of someone who gambles for the first time, and what you say is true but when he has been gambling for a long time. So someone who has been gambling for a while and has developed addiction or other problematic behaviour if they have a losing streak will try to chase their losses, go for more money or even borrow it, but someone who is starting out and losing money gets bored and doesn't gamble when they lose the money they have decided to gamble.
A person who comes to gambling for the very first time may feel a lot of excitement but at the same time, he may be fearful too of losing the money. He would have mixed emotions initially.

I think if he loses his first few games, he may say bad words about gambling or maybe quit it for some time but if he wins, he would be happy but he would not become addicted to it. Addiction only starts when you play too much gambling that all the losses won't matter to you and you still keep on playing. I would call it a state of mind, where the gamblers fail to understand the drawback of excessive gambling.
One doesn't get addicted directly after getting their first big win in gambling, but that basically becomes the reason why a person gambles again, and when they keep gambling again and again, they tend to become addicted to it unless they set a limit for themselves from the beginning and limit their time and bankroll so that they don't spend a lot of money and time on gambling to prevent themselves from becoming addicted to gambling from the beginning.

As you said, if a person faces losses on their first-ever gambling session, they will most likely not gamble again very soon, maybe after a lot of time when they forget about their previous losses, they might gamble again, but when they manage to win, they can't help but think about it all the time.

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August 15, 2023, 06:29:55 PM
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In my opinion, the first taste of victory does not cause gambling addiction and only provokes a novice to further study gambling, but when behind your back will be enough wins and losses and you get used to the production of dopamine during gambling and instead of meeting with friends you will give preference to the casino, that's when you will definitely have a gambling addiction. In my opinion it is not gambling addiction that is scary, but irresponsibility of a gambler.

A novice won't start gambling without understanding how it works. An initial win would further cement his belief that gambling can be a source of income. As things progress and loss start accumulating that novice would try to gamble more in order to cover the loss. This is where they would make the mistake of using the money that they cannot afford to lose. Then they would try to borrow money from friends and family. If they win big they are able to repay the borrowed amount if not then they would find others to borrow and ultimately fall into the gambling debt trap. Reckless gambling is nothing but getting overconfident with the ability to make a win.

Perhaps the first winnings and encourages the beginner, but the first loss makes even a beginner to think. Today, when the mobile Internet is at hand almost every person to read an article about gambling can every beginner. In order to find out your chances of winning in a particular gambling game does not need to study the theory of probability or mathematical theory of gambling because this information is easy to find out on Google. Yes, and almost every article about gambling says that constantly make money through gambling is almost impossible.

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August 15, 2023, 08:25:24 PM
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If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

I think addiction can easily arise even with losses, when it seems to the player that he was a little lacking to win, and therefore he continues to play further. Admittedly, casinos are masterful in creating this feeling for gamblers. But given the fact that I know some examples personally, I can say that the likelihood of addiction is higher if the player wins from the very beginning of his "career" of the gambler. One bright positive experience subsequently covers all subsequent negative and the gambler is constantly trying to reproduce his first success and as a result, in total, goes into a deep minus.

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