well thats aren't far from the truth

[AbuBhakar]

* i made this topic since I'm looking for a beginning in this forum i had only 24 posts but yet they are useful for others (I'm not the one to judge) but didn't get any yet .
 

Most of your topics is only asking other user. I doubt your post helps other user but rather those who answer your topic is the one made a useful reply for others. If you want to get merit, be the guy who answer questions and not the guy who’s consistently asking for help.

So please no negative comments !! after all we are here to learn

You should make this thread a self moderated if you want to filter all the post here according to your preference.

[LogitechMouse]

so I was suggesting that at first to get merits by posting numbers...like 20+ posts getting 1 merit, 50+ 2 merits ..and so on.

im not sure how it was before but now its not that easy to get at least 1 merit to begin.

You're saying that in order to get 1 merit, you need to post 20 posts? That's your suggestion?

How about those newbies out there who are posting only Proof of Authentication in their bounty campaigns that they're participating? You are saying that they will just rank up somewhere in the future just because they are posting more than 20 posts per week with some Facebook, Twitter and other social media links? I mean that's unfair to the other users out there who are trying to make some quality, and constructive post just to have a chance to get merits. It's unfair right?

TBH, I don't know what's the other way for newbies to gain merit aside from making some quality posts out there.

Maybe some will attack me here from nothing is easy to get ..but im fighting to be visible to others !! newbie rank will not get me anywhere atm.

So please no negative comments !! after all we are here to learn
 

I will not attack you, but can I ask you a question. What is your purpose in joining the forum in the first place? Because if you're just here for knowledge, rank doesn't matter TBH. If you're here because you heard from some stranger out there that you can earn money here (but you must have a high rank), then rank matters to you.

[Nwada001]

so i guess the admins should do a PLAN for newbies members to get to be at least MEMBERS

I believe the system is just perfect the way it is; the merit system was not created to favor anyone, but anyone who drops posts that are quality enough to receive merit will definitely get that as a reward. And with you making 24 posts since your registration and no merit yet, it should at least teach you something, which is that you should work a little on your post quality, and you will definitely get those merits you are searching for.
 
I will advise you to just devote your time to building yourself and learning properly from the forum, and in due time, before you realize it, you will notice that merit will start flowing on your posts and comments without you even requesting it. Everyone has different ways of judging post quality and if they meet their requirements for it to be merited.

But having this kind of mindset that merit is low only with the higher-ranking members might kill your desire to even push further, and posts like this one might likely put you on many users ignore lists, reducing your chances of getting merit when you make quality posts.

[Peanutswar]

It doesn't mean that if you reach a designated number of posts or activities you will receive merit still people seeing the contributions and quality of your content that benefits to the community, keep exploring more here in the community and observe other members or even the prominent ones how they get a bunch amount of merit that case you can rank up too like the higher ranks. Are you urging to rank up immediately? it takes time to deal with it, takes time to learn so invest in knowledge. Good luck to your journey.

[aioc]

When a newbie talks about merit, chances are he's not getting any or not getting enough because he is trying hard to impress, why not focus on contributing and forget about getting merit, be someone who contributes or gets people to know you as an active poster and knowledgeable on some subject, not really expert but someone who can participate and contribute on the topic, members with merits are likely to give merits to newbies who show active participation on a discussion.

[Razmirraz]

It's a good idea but I don't think it needs to be implemented because every rule that has been made on the forum has succeeded in eradicating spammers by implementing a merit system. I can understand what you mean, it's hard to get merit doesn't mean you need to change the rules of the forum, when you can't read, don't blame the book, correct yourself why you can't read while other people can read fluently.
The forum already has several service threads available, you can apply to Thread [Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank and Thread [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed for merit assistance. Instead of asking for a revision of the forum rules, you can apply there, if your post is worthy, Merit Source will give you some merits that can help you get closer to being in the Member rank.

[teoliya33]

It's a good idea but I don't think it needs to be implemented because every rule that has been made on the forum has succeeded in eradicating spammers by implementing a merit system. I can understand what you mean, it's hard to get merit doesn't mean you need to change the rules of the forum, when you can't read, don't blame the book, correct yourself why you can't read while other people can read fluently.
The forum already has several service threads available, you can apply to Thread [Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank and Thread [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed for merit assistance. Instead of asking for a revision of the forum rules, you can apply there, if your post is worthy, Merit Source will give you some merits that can help you get closer to being in the Member rank.

Thank for your professional reply , unlike the other legendary users this one was great and helpful

[PeRo]

To be honest, ranking up to Jr. Member and Member isn't even that hard, you need some activity and just a few posts to be merited and you're already there. I personally ranked up before the merit system so I can't really say anything (and I rarely even got merits) but I think the system is good as it is - you'll rank up if a lot of people appreciate your posts.

I would suggest learning more about Bitcoin and this forum for starters and try to format your post a little better (don't use new rows for every sentence and watch out for your spaces) - it just looks better when you read it and you have a higher chance that people will actually read or reply. And also focus on contributing to the forum or learning, not gaining merits.

[acroman08]

so I was suggesting that at first to get merits by posting numbers...like 20+ posts getting 1 merit, 50+ 2 merits ..and so on.

im not sure how it was before but now its not that easy to get at least 1 merit to begin.

if the admin does that it most likely will encourage account farmers to spam nonstop just to achieve the number of posts to get the free merits. As you have said, you didn't know how it was before, one of the reasons why the admins implement the merit system is to stop account farmers from spamming and encourage members to put more effort into what they post to earn merits and be able to rank up. if they follow what you are suggesting this would just reverse what they try to eliminate/reduce when they implement the merit system.

[Aikidoka]

Instead of seeking merits, try making constructive posts and improve your knowledge about Bitcoin. This way, you'll get more stuffs to provide in this forums and also you'd provide assistance to those seeking help with such matters. Long story short, if you're looking to improve the quality of your posts to earn merits, focus on putting in the effort to make that happens.

If your goal is to rank up in this forum, consider reviewing your posts in comparison to those who consistently earn merits. You'll likely notice a differences in the quality of your posts for sure.

[Renampun]

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So please no negative comments !! after all we are here to learn

how can other people not comment negatively on you while you yourself make posts that indicate expecting other members to give you a little "merit"

if you want to learn then you won't like this, you should try to read how other senior members get "merit" because there is no special trick for that, as long as you provide quality posts, you will get merit from other members, believe me.

[Timmzzy]

Hello Bitcointalk community

i saw many people ( even i am one of them)  Since getting merits a lil bit hard here people rushing to posts like me newbie maybe post some posts without looking at the " Newbies - Read before posting"

Or high ranks members respond the same answers but in a different ways.

so I was suggesting that at first to get merits by posting numbers...like 20+ posts getting 1 merit, 50+ 2 merits ..and so on.

im not sure how it was before but now its not that easy to get at least 1 merit to begin.


* i made this topic since I'm looking for a beginning in this forum i had only 24 posts but yet they are useful for others (I'm not the one to judge) but didn't get any yet .

so i guess the admins should do a PLAN for newbies members to get to be at least MEMBERS


Maybe some will attack me here from nothing is easy to get ..but im fighting to be visible to others !! newbie rank will not get me anywhere atm.

So please no negative comments !! after all we are here to learn
 

Even without having to do a POST some good replies on quality post also earn you merits, now to be in for merits you have to bring in something you know that can help newbies like you to learn, or should i say we all should learn from post with images that will educate faster on the post you will make and also it took make a long time to get here, so dont expect the worst or good at a shorter timeframe.

[cryptoaddictchie]

I pity you OP with that tone and it seems like you have grudges about the merit system here. Being a newbie is really hard since many will doubt your account at first. Dont be jealous of those who got merits with their post or even response. Its not like they are asking for it. Too much expectation on your post would give you headache.  Just be normal like everybody else, and you would be suprise that the morr you wont get notice it merits will come as long as you did a good take away from different topics.

[reagansimms]

Op, make difficulties a challenge, when you find it difficult to get merits, you have to motivate yourself even more so that you can get merits. Merit is not only for certain circles, Newbies can also get merit if they are able to produce quality posts.
You have to be jealous of other members who have managed to rank up after getting several merits, Jealous I mean in terms of the positive side, when other members can rank up to a higher rank, you should be able to too. Nothing is hard to get as long as you are willing to learn, increase your knowledge to help speed up your account rank up process.

[Razmirraz]

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Thank for your professional reply , unlike the other legendary users this one was great and helpful

Thanks for the compliment, but that doesn't make me feel better than other users. Here I am also still in the learning stage, there are still many shortcomings that I need to learn to be a good forum user. Other users try to provide views from different sides, the different characters of each user need to be digested properly, even though the delivery method is different, their goals remain the same. Corrections and criticism need to be received positively, in fact their purpose is for your good and increase your knowledge about how to benefit.

[Doan9269]

so I was suggesting that at first to get merits by posting numbers...like 20+ posts getting 1 merit, 50+ 2 merits ..and so on.

Maybe if you had taken your time to read the requirements and the standard way of giving out merits, you won't make a suggestion of this kind to the community, this also shows that you have not read about the forum merit system well, though let me assume you're bringing a suggestion here, giving merit is strictly by quality post and not by quantity.

im not sure how it was before but now its not that easy to get at least 1 merit to begin.

I believe your target of coming here is not to get merits, the merit system was introduced to curb the spammers from growing in rank.

* i made this topic since I'm looking for a beginning in this forum i had only 24 posts but yet they are useful for others (I'm not the one to judge) but didn't get any yet .

You're yet to begin, haven't you seen a user profile with thousand of posts without any single merit? Not until you define what brought you here, you may not get merit or the opportunity to grow.

so i guess the admins should do a PLAN for newbies members to get to be at least MEMBERS

So spammers and scammers should also grow along with those that are serious with their contributions to the forum?

[Issa56]

Hello Bitcointalk community

i saw many people ( even i am one of them)  Since getting merits a lil bit hard here people rushing to posts like me newbie maybe post some posts without looking at the " Newbies - Read before posting"

I don’t think getting merit is difficult here, you haven’t done anything that's worth meriting, which is why you haven’t received any merit. If you make quality posts that people think are useful, they will merit you, and if you are desperate to get merit, don’t be surprised that you won’t be getting it, and you might end up going against the forum rules at the end, and you will be punished for that. Just post freely, and you will end up receiving merit.

* i made this topic since I'm looking for a beginning in this forum i had only 24 posts but yet they are useful for others (I'm not the one to judge) but didn't get any yet .

At the time of replying this post, you already have 27 posts with zero merits, maybe know one have seen your post value able to them that’s why they haven’t merited you, so what I will recommend is for you to improve your post quality, do more research and am sure you will get the merit you are looking for.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

so i guess the admins should do a PLAN for newbies members to get to be at least MEMBERS

Maybe some will attack me here from nothing is easy to get ..but im fighting to be visible to others !! newbie rank will not get me anywhere atm.

So please no negative comments !! after all we are here to learn 

Don't feel attack, they're just corrections so take it as what it is and work on yourself. We have many users that have earned their way to the top of the rank and you can also be one of them if you stop complaining and starts to work on your accounts. You're a newbie and that's the most loved rank as there are many people ready and willing to assist you with your growth in the forum provided you'll be willing to work and proof that you deserved to ranked up. If you're posting quality contributions, the merits will find you eventually because if you don't get merited directly as those with smerits comes in contact with your posts, others that find your post worthy could recommend them to merit sources and you get merited.

But one thing I observe it's like legends give legends merit and it's not really fair you help the lower ranks to grow and not 'enriching in merit already

Lol, Sorry I laughed when I see this replies, I thought this way of thinking would have die off the forum by now because people have been saying this since I was a newbie but upto date it has been the other way around. The more you grow the lesser your chances of getting merited with the same level of quality you have always delivering previously. With higher ranks, it's presumed you have advance in your thinking therefore your quality should be advanced as well and the merits is likely to reduced then increase. Instead of the legendary ranks getting the merits it's the newbies that get all the merits.

[HajiBagi]

Merit system was added to recognize ones contribution to this community. It's not something you get for posting or increasing your activities. Rather if you make quality posts which would help the community to learn something or if you help someone in term of knowledge you can get merits. Try to make useful posts and don't violate any forum rules and you are good to go.

Begging for merits won't get you anywhere. Rather you could get negative feedback or trust. So don't do this.

If you are unaware of how BitcoinTalk works and what are the rules, then check this post to learn more;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0

This is the reason why some newbies always stay in the same rank without merit; you must first learn how to post a quality post that will earn you merit; you cannot simply join a forum and expect people to start giving you merit; merit may be very difficult for you to obtain, but for some forum members, it will be simple because they are aware of the type of quality post they must make in order to receive merit. The way you sound about merit right now suggests that you are not only here to learn about cryptocurrency, but also to hunt for money. As a newbie, you are expected to be fully aware of the forum's rules and regulations.

Some of the more seasoned forum members won't find this funny because they'll assume you're not serious about joining; they'll assume you joined the community solely for financial gain, despite the fact that doing a signature is not the best thing to do. Instead, you should focus on creating high-quality posts because even signatures are concerned with these. Therefore, if you don't go and fulfil the requirements, you won't be deemed worthy.

[Good_Doctor]

But one thing I observe it's like legends give legends merit and it's not really fair you help the lower ranks to grow and not 'enriching in merit already

Let's be honest with ourselves as newbies, I don't see it that way, if you deserve to get merit on any post or contribution it will be given by the community. So don't say Legends gives to Legend, do your best on reading more and making good contributions to the forum. It's more of educating ourselves than getting merit

Okay I won't say that. Congratulations by the way