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August 14, 2023, 05:38:38 PM
Last edit: August 16, 2023, 06:53:10 PM by decodx
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What happened:
Earlier today, I put in a deposit on the Whirlwind.money mixing service. After the transaction got the required number of confirmations, I requested for a withdrawal from my note to a wallet address with a 0-hour delay. However, it's been 10 hours now, and the transaction hasn't been processed or shown up on the blockchain. There wasn't any warning or indication of the service being down, and I just realized later that there were issues. It turns out other members were also in the same boat, waiting for their money.

Profile Link: whirlwindmoney
[edit] Type 3 Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3197

Reference Link: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥
Website Link: https://whirlwind.money/
Amount Claimed: 0.004 BTC
Payment Method: bitcoin
Proof of Payment: here's all the evidence

Additional Notes:
Based on information shared by some members in the ANN thread, it appears that whirlwind hasn't been handling any withdrawals since August 9th (which is almost 5 full days as of the time of writing).

Please update us on this.
This sounds extremely weird. You do still see the satoshi's in your note, don't you?

No, the Note balance has updatet but there has been no transaction so far. Something seems stuck.

My last withdrawal was on the 9th, got the coins.

Looking at an explorer, the last outgoing transactions were made on that date: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1qf8h5k6sash8007vpesymxkw2xsg5d0r3j4l5vmcrwpz2pqu66fjstzgd3r

Thank you for that information! As I made my withdrawal on the 11th, I guess that something is stuck :/

I made a withdrawal of 0.025 BTC yesterday afternoon (like you with 0 hours delay) and so far nothing. Did you get the money, or email reply yet?

And there are a few other issues as well. LoyceV summarized it nicely:

So, to summarize (and correct me if I got anything wrong):
  • The website isn't profitable (yet)
  • Deposits are working
  • The website claims to pay a very high 12% APR on deposits
  • The daily awards aren't always being added
  • Withdrawals stopped working 5 days ago
  • The signature campaign payments happen off-chain and thus can't be withdrawn now
  • User whirlwindmoney hasn't been here for more than a month
  • Support doesn't respond to inquiries
No matter what the reason is, this looks bad.

This isn't a scam accusation (at least not yet), but a heads-up for the community. Taking everything into account, I believe it's in everyone's best interest to hold off on using the service for the time being. It would be wise to wait until we get some feedback from their representatives and the service gets back on track. I'll keep this thread updated as the situation progresses.


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August 14, 2023, 06:20:04 PM
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This is not looking fair enough and you Whirlwind will loss their trust if they didn't solve this issue on time. Any issue regarding payment should be solved In 72 hours, if they delay then "something is Fishy". You done a great job by posting it here so until this problem not solve , no one should try Whirlwind service.

Why not whirlwind team make deposit and withdraw decentralized if possible to make their service more smooth. I think if they release all payment now but still there will be doubt in every mixer user to use it especially when amount is big.

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This isn't a scam accusation (at least not yet), but a heads-up for the community. Taking everything into account, I believe it's in everyone's best interest to hold off on using the service for the time being. It would be wise to wait until we get some feedback from their representatives and the service gets back on track. I'll keep this thread updated as the situation progresses.
It's good that you posted this thread to draw the community's attention to Whirlwind's mysterious events. So far, they haven't responded to emails sent to reassure their customers about concerns highlighted by members and withdrawals that haven't been processed and completed yet. The other thing is that Hhampuz has put their signature campaign on "HOLD." I agree with him in his remarks regarding that no one should deposit his currencies or use their services, such as generating a note or withdrawing and the like, until things become apparent in the coming days; I hope that they will respond to their emails as soon as possible, or that their representative on the forum, whose last activity was July 04, 2023, will attend to update the topic of the announcement and reassure and calm the users of the mixer. The whirlwind team has paid a lot and done a lot to promote their platform. Their services have been running smoothly for a long time. I hope that things return to normal again.

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August 14, 2023, 07:04:59 PM
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Based on information shared by some members in the ANN thread, it appears that whirlwind hasn't been handling any withdrawals since August 9th (which is almost 5 full days as of the time of writing).
Mixers are always risky and under attack from governments so it is better to wait few more days before taking further action, but everything will be resolved for you OP.
I see their website is also down for some reason, but have you tried sending them email or talking with them in some other way?
They have campaign in forum and manager also needs to explain what is happening.

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I see their website is also down for some reason, but have you tried sending them email or talking with them in some other way?
They have campaign in forum and manager also needs to explain what is happening.
Clearnet has been down for quite a bit, even while they were active in here. Tor is still up.

The campaign manager is responsible for… managing the campaign, which is already paused. He has nothing to do with their lack of communication or even (hopefully not) potential exit scam.

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The campaign manager is responsible for… managing the campaign. He has nothing to do with their downtime or even (hopefully not) potential exit scam.
I am not blaming anyone but campaign manager should be in contact with owner of website that created campaign, and I saw members are saying owner is not active in forum for months.
Was there any communication between them during this time or not? How was campaign being paid? Was there any early red flags?
This are very important question and we are hoping to receive answers on them.

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Posting here, since this is a dedicated topic for this problem.

Also, for people with funds in there, are the daily mining rewards coming through? Didn’t they say they do those manually?

I did not get any reward in the past 3 days. My last reward was sent on Friday (August 11th).

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I am not blaming anyone but campaign manager should be in contact with owner of website that created campaign, and I saw members are saying owner is not active in forum for months.

Even without communication with the owner, the campaign worked until (last 5 days) there were problems with the withdrawal of funds.
The manager did what was necessary to protect the campaign participants and put them on pause.

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Was there any communication between them during this time or not? How was campaign being paid? Was there any early red flags?
This are very important question and we are hoping to receive answers on them.

Feel free to visit their ANN and you will get most of the answers to your questions, although the OP summarized the whole problem.

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August 14, 2023, 08:13:04 PM
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Really unfortunate news, a while ago I read this news about withdrawal issues from the Whirlwind mixer and also that the campaign manager has put the campaign on Hold and is urging everyone to remove their signatures until the situation is clear because he hasn't gotten a response from Whirlwind yet.

It's unfortunate to see this situation because Whirlwind was one of the favorite Mixers to take a big place in the market. I hope this is only a temporary problem and is resolved quickly otherwise they will lose their credibility and the trust they have started to build so well in the forum with their signature campaign.

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August 14, 2023, 11:06:50 PM
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Really unfortunate news, a while ago I read this news about withdrawal issues from the Whirlwind mixer and also that the campaign manager has put the campaign on Hold and is urging everyone to remove their signatures until the situation is clear because he hasn't gotten a response from Whirlwind yet.

It's unfortunate to see this situation because Whirlwind was one of the favorite Mixers to take a big place in the market. I hope this is only a temporary problem and is resolved quickly otherwise they will lose their credibility and the trust they have started to build so well in the forum with their signature campaign.
I wouldn't say one of the favorite mixers, but with their signature campaigns and getting almost all previous CM participants, they become this sort of reputable mixer out there as there are competitions after CM shutdowns.

Just read the issues about it in their ANN thread, yeah, doesn't want to speculate, but something is fishy behind and hopefully as the OP posted it here, everyone will check this board first before using their services.

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August 14, 2023, 11:19:58 PM
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I am not blaming anyone but campaign manager should be in contact with owner of website that created campaign, and I saw members are saying owner is not active in forum for months.

Even without communication with the owner, the campaign worked until (last 5 days) there were problems with the withdrawal of funds.
The manager did what was necessary to protect the campaign participants and put them on pause.


The campaign manager did the right thing at the right time their lack of communication and issues with withdrawal an alarm that something was wrong, I thought this was one of the mixing campaigns that was going to last long and also had a shot at becoming of the replacement of CM, the representative is not active anymore here in this forum for over a month.

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August 14, 2023, 11:27:28 PM
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Yes
It really looks like exit scam.
Site is not accessible anymore: http://whirlwind.money/
Really sad news but I've called it earlier when I've sait it's just a matter of time: 

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August 14, 2023, 11:47:44 PM
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There's an Update from Hhampuz that I have seen in the ANN thread. Hopefully everything goes back to normal. No need to panic for now

I got an email back from whirlwind just now and it was as I suspected - something happened.

Basically, main people lost access due to travels while people still with access didn't have the right credentials to solve basic issues that caused withdraws to get stuck on the back-end. I've been assured that nothing has been lost and that all will be taken care of tomorrow meaning all currently pending withdraws will be processed and things return back to normal. It was an unfortunate situation is all!

I've asked my contact at whirlwind to reply in this thread whenever they can with further details, so from now until then/tomorrow night there is no need to panic even if I wouldn't recommend you to deposit until the backlog is cleared. Campaign participants will also be paid out as per usual tomorrow, regardless of if you've removed your signature or not.



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It really looks like exit scam.
Site is not accessible anymore: http://whirlwind.money/
Really sad news but I've called it earlier when I've sait it's just a matter of time: 
What is the matter with you. Do you take time to read?
Several members says the clearnet has been off for a while but the onion site was functional until recently.

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I am monitoring the multi signature address with https://cryptocurrencyalerting.com/wallet-watch.html#
In case something changes, I will be notified.

You can do the same, in case.

I am not affiliated with this website, nor I have any clue about the correct working.

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August 15, 2023, 01:53:31 AM
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Thanks for the heads-up for the community. It is wise to wait until we get some feedback from their representatives and the service gets back on track before using it. There is not much you can do except wait and hope that the service will resume its normal operations soon. I suggest that you avoid using this service until the situation is resolved. I hope you get your money back soon.

Given the complexity of the situation and the potential risks involved, it's recommended to follow the advice of LoyceV and exercise caution when using the Whirlwind.money service. It would be prudent to await further communication from the service's representatives and to gather more information about the ongoing issues before making any further deposits or withdrawals. Always prioritize the security of your funds and stay informed about the latest developments.

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Thanks for the heads-up for the community. It is wise to wait until we get some feedback from their representatives and the service gets back on track before using it. There is not much you can do except wait and hope that the service will resume its normal operations soon. I suggest that you avoid using this service until the situation is resolved. I hope you get your money back soon.

Given the complexity of the situation and the potential risks involved, it's recommended to follow the advice of LoyceV and exercise caution when using the Whirlwind.money service. It would be prudent to await further communication from the service's representatives and to gather more information about the ongoing issues before making any further deposits or withdrawals. Always prioritize the security of your funds and stay informed about the latest developments.

I think you're a bit behind on the development of the entire whirlwind's situation. There's already a reply and explanation made by Hhampuz on their ANN thread, which also quoted by Logfiles on post #14 of this thread.

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I think you're a bit behind on the development of the entire whirlwind's situation. There's already a reply and explanation made by Hhampuz on their ANN thread, which also quoted by Logfiles on post #14 of this thread.

To be fair, Hhampuz's statement, which I have no doubt is in good faith and absolutely represents his messages exchange with Whirlwind, does not change the situation much.
Deposit release and processing will do, together with clear communication with the community.
Until then, I would still recommend maximum alert.

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Deposit release and processing will do, together with clear communication with the community.
Until then, I would still recommend maximum alert.


I completely agree that you should be extremely careful here, at least until some time passes and the service continues to work without issue.
The problem happened because a significant part of the team lost access due to travel, I think that without access they cannot determine the exact amount of damage.

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August 15, 2023, 11:09:43 AM
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The problem happened because a significant part of the team lost access due to travel, I think that without access they cannot determine the exact amount of damage.

As I understood, there is no “damage” I.e. Loss of funds. , but for sure this delay in communication is very worrying.
Don’t forget they told Hhampuz everything would have been fixed by today.

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August 15, 2023, 06:57:47 PM
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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has offered their support here. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, there hasn't been any progress on my whirlwind case. My money is still stuck with them, and the available balance on my private note displays: 0 BTC, without any explanation provided whatsoever. I get that a hundred bucks or so might not be a big deal to a bunch of folks here, but it's a big deal to me. It's not gonna break the bank, but hey, it's still my money we're talking about!

I'm really open to hearing your thoughts on what my next move should be. What would you do if you were in my shoes? Your opinions are much appreciated!

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