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August 23, 2023, 04:23:26 PM |
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The dealer in the story should be prosecuted also for negligence by the casino where the incident happened. I do believe he/she was in a vantage position to clearly observe the composure of everyone playing on the table and should have been the first responder.
It's sad how it takes an awful experience most times to teach us the right lessons. Casinos these days, at least the big once I know have emergency lines of most health care practitioners/businesses around the vicinity of their business incase something like such happens. I do not know about those local ones. However, I think people who have medical conditions should know instances and environments that can trigger their conditions and try to avoid them or use a tag or go with a friend or family, if they intend to have a go at the excitement and thrill that gambling and casino houses has to offer.
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August 23, 2023, 09:51:47 PM |
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Anything relating to heart problems is sometimes very critical, and first aid in casinos is not just something that can easily help; the best thing to do is to call an emergency. If perhaps they never did call an emergency, then it was bad of them. But although it's not the fault of the casino, if the man had already had some heart disease earlier on, then the family of the man should not file any charges against the casino. There is no well-established organisation that doesn't have a first aid kit, and I believe the casino also usually has one.
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August 23, 2023, 10:00:02 PM |
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Anything relating to heart problems is sometimes very critical, and first aid in casinos is not just something that can easily help; the best thing to do is to call an emergency. If perhaps they never did call an emergency, then it was bad of them. But although it's not the fault of the casino, if the man had already had some heart disease earlier on, then the family of the man should not file any charges against the casino. There is no well-established organisation that doesn't have a first aid kit, and I believe the casino also usually has one.
First-aid kit is a must to every establishment before they can get the permit to operate a business. However, the dealer of that casino should have a different response rather than just continue what he's doing. It was a medical emergency and he can pause what he's doing. I don't know how he was trained on this situation. But a big casino like Wynn, should have that kind of training, even the basic one. We are talking about life here of a person. I hope this will be a lesson for any casino, they need to be alert in spotting such cases like this and don't just ignore the situation
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August 23, 2023, 10:27:03 PM |
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This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events.
There is really no way to tell the health Status of any gambler that comes to the casino to gamble. But the entire situation would have been avoided. The dealer should be sacked for not being observant on the blackjack table of the people gambling. If he has been the observant type, he surely would have been able to quickly call the attention of the casino management to avoid the scenario of a client dying and leaving a bad name to the casino. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
They have a right to be angry and put blames on the casino for negligence, failure to take proper care of their client. The dealer was employed by the Casino, so the casino will take the blame for his actions. Proper first aid and an emergency response to rush the gambler to a hospital would have saved his life.
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August 23, 2023, 10:51:30 PM |
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I think to enforce casinos to have paramedicals teams would be a very abusive regulation. I think the emergency service must be efficient and reach every locations pretty fast and that is all. Here in our country the service is managed by the government, but in other countries I think it can be managed by the private sector too.
Citizens just have to make sure the system is working properly, but not forcing businessmen to increase their debt by hiring paramedicals or acquiring medical equipments for their businesses. After all, I don't think it's their obligation.
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For those saying that someone should have cared for the man, well, it's possible that they aren't even aware of what's going on, some gamblers are very good at putting up an act when they lose games, and some will even roll on the ground, they are full of drama, I have seen this before in a gambling house in my country.
This is true but it should come as a matter of concern that the time spent being inactive at the table was too long. Anything other than five minutes is too much. I hope that the casino management have been able to learn from this bitter experience.
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August 23, 2023, 11:23:17 PM |
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This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
I don't know, but I think every business place including a casino of course they must already have or provide a number of basic medical equipment for first aid. But in cases or incidents like this, of course they are beyond their control and in my opinion incidents like this are purely due to a problem with the person's health condition. A card dealing officer and everyone in there might have thought that he was just drunk and fell down. But if there is someone who disturbs the comfort of playing, the security from the casino should be swift to pick up the person to be moved and examined. Actually I don't think the casino is to be blamed for such an incident but it could be their fault as there was no responsive and fast action to address the issue of someone fainting out of the blue.
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August 23, 2023, 11:28:42 PM |
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You are saying one or a couple of paramedics should be locked in one casino instead of giving care to others in different places? Hmm, maybe a private company can do that. Although I seriously doubt a cardiac arrest can be helped out at that event with first aid, the first thing they should think about is bringing the patient as quickly as possible to the hospital where proper care will be applied. I think the amount of securities they put in every physical casino is enough to do that job. They all have eyes on those who cheat so I doubt they will not see what is happening unless it's an attack that is not too obvious like mild strokes or whatever. One case should not make it a way to sudden changes. Maybe there are cases where they reacted fast but only the rare bad one came out of the news.
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A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday. https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/Man, I believe that every country has very clear laws about medical emergencies, I don't know if in the place where this fact actually occurred it was necessary to have a medical team or first aid kits available, but obviously I am to believe that AT A MINIMUM they should have called the emergency requesting urgent medical help. It's notable how even today many face-to-face casinos value profit in the first place, as they believed that any "different" movement could generate turmoil and losses for the house.... regretful to have to read this. But I agree with a colleague here.... I believe that no one noticed that the bettor was feeling sick, even because in this game it is necessary to "maintain discretion" in order to be able to bluff correctly and also interpret the opponents' body result. In any case, I believe that the casino is the main culprit in the case of omission of help, and should be punished.
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August 23, 2023, 11:53:09 PM |
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I think to enforce casinos to have paramedicals teams would be a very abusive regulation. I think the emergency service must be efficient and reach every locations pretty fast and that is all. Here in our country the service is managed by the government, but in other countries I think it can be managed by the private sector too.
Citizens just have to make sure the system is working properly, but not forcing businessmen to increase their debt by hiring paramedicals or acquiring medical equipments for their businesses. After all, I don't think it's their obligation.
It is illegal for a huge business or establishment to not have any nurses or doctors on stand-by during hours of operation. I think the casino in question have the medical team and quick response team on their speed dial, it's just that the dealer failed to assess the situation correctly. If I were the casino, I'd put the blame on the dealer for not calling the relevant team that handles such concerns. Also, the dealer could have alerted a security nearby to wake the person up. Well, what's done is done. The man's lawyer could sue this casino for a huge sum, that's for sure.
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August 23, 2023, 11:59:11 PM |
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The dealer in the story should be prosecuted also for negligence by the casino where the incident happened. I do believe he/she was in a vantage position to clearly observe the composure of everyone playing on the table and should have been the first responder.
Why should the dealer be held accountable for anything? The dealer was doing what he was supposed to do and that’s to deal cards. What about the other people sitting at the table or even the person sitting right next to him? Why not hold them all liable and also move to prosecute them The dealer wasn’t negligent as it’s not in the job description to babysit people who come in to play. It’s really sad the man went unnoticed for a while and died but the dealer shouldn’t be blamed for anything.
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A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday. https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed? Casinos should be held to the same standards as other businesses, so if there is no need for other businesses to have trained medical staff then casinos should not be forced to have those kind of measures on hand. However as we know many casinos are also hotels and most hotels do indeed have some medical personal on hand to help their customers in the case of an emergency, however what is outrageous out of this story is that people kept playing despite a person being unconscious on the same table, now I understand that this is probably a behavior they see all the time as people get drunk at casinos very often, but to have no protocol in place to deal with this and call to emergencies is simply bad practice, and the family should be able to get some compensation due to this oversight.
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You are saying one or a couple of paramedics should be locked in one casino instead of giving care to others in different places? Hmm, maybe a private company can do that. Although I seriously doubt a cardiac arrest can be helped out at that event with first aid, the first thing they should think about is bringing the patient as quickly as possible to the hospital where proper care will be applied. I think the amount of securities they put in every physical casino is enough to do that job. They all have eyes on those who cheat so I doubt they will not see what is happening unless it's an attack that is not too obvious like mild strokes or whatever. One case should not make it a way to sudden changes. Maybe there are cases where they reacted fast but only the rare bad one came out of the news.
Having a first aid kit is important but how to use it is also vital. There are basic first aid treatments that can be administered to a cardiac arrest patient. The first step to take is to call a hospital emergency service and begin a high-quality cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR). This is why every organization not only casinos should always train their staff periodically. A simple CPR would have been helpful before the coming of qualified health officials. Although this is a piece of bad news it will serve as a wake-up call to other casinos. It is a call to focus not just on profit maximization but the welfare of the clients. The dealer in the story should be prosecuted also for negligence by the casino where the incident happened. I do believe he/she was in a vantage position to clearly observe the composure of everyone playing on the table and should have been the first responder.
Why should the dealer be held accountable for anything? The dealer was doing what he was supposed to do and that’s to deal cards. What about the other people sitting at the table or even the person sitting right next to him? Why not hold them all liable and also move to prosecute them The dealer wasn’t negligent as it’s not in the job description to babysit people who come in to play. It’s really sad the man went unnoticed for a while and died but the dealer shouldn’t be blamed for anything. This is not just a morality issue but a legal one. If the law states that the company is liable for the well-being of clients within its premises, then it will be held liable. This is not also the issue of babysitting clients, a gamer not responding for about fifteen minutes should be a concern to the attendant. The casino is not a hotel where clients should be left alone to rest or sleep.
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August 24, 2023, 03:44:57 AM |
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A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday. https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed? For sure, the casino didn't know it. I mean, there are a lot of drunk people for sure in the casino, and the dealer thought that he was just drunk and got laid off to the floor. Or they have a protocol that the dealer doesn't need to take care of those events, only the security, but again, you are right, there should be some that look after those kinds of situations no matter what, which I've also noticed mostly, like a medic on standby inside the casino, only the security, so this needs to be implemented so that it would be prevented.
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August 24, 2023, 03:45:23 AM |
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In my opinion, every big casino is required to have a medical, first aid, and doctor who is ready for emergencies, because things like that can happen to players or during gambling, whether it's a heart attack, commotion in gambling, and much more. coupled with the condition when playing emotionally which can accelerate one's heart when playing has a fast beat, you can also work with dealers who are able to handle things like convulsions, or heart attacks, at least they can provide first aid so that conditions are not too bad when , so in my opinion medical and medicinal places should at least be held in big casinos and even the smallest casinos.
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Anything relating to heart problems is sometimes very critical, and first aid in casinos is not just something that can easily help; the best thing to do is to call an emergency. If perhaps they never did call an emergency, then it was bad of them. But although it's not the fault of the casino, if the man had already had some heart disease earlier on, then the family of the man should not file any charges against the casino. There is no well-established organisation that doesn't have a first aid kit, and I believe the casino also usually has one.
I'm also sure that for an international casino class they definitely provide a first aid kit. However, the first aid kit will not help people with heart attacks at all, the best way is to take them directly to the hospital. Maybe either they were too enjoying the game so they didn't realize that someone was unconscious in the middle of the game. Or maybe the casino has no humanity so they prefer to continue the game and ignore someone who falls in the middle of the game. But I think that this is about a humanitarian crisis at the Las Vegas casino, the lack of sympathy, empathy and mutual assistance to one another. they just let it go.
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August 24, 2023, 04:38:53 AM |
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I'm also sure that for an international casino class they definitely provide a first aid kit. However, the first aid kit will not help people with heart attacks at all, the best way is to take them directly to the hospital.
Yes, I agree with you and the previous comments that the casino probably had a first aid kit but that it did not include a defibrillator. In large organisations it is not uncommon for there to be a defibrillator for every x number of people and at least some people are trained to use it if necessary. However, I imagine that statistically it is very rare, and that it is not just because of one case that casinos the size of this one are going to be forced to have defibrillators and train their staff.
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August 24, 2023, 11:33:12 AM |
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In my opinion, every big casino is required to have a medical, first aid, and doctor who is ready for emergencies, because things like that can happen to players or during gambling, whether it's a heart attack, commotion in gambling, and much more. coupled with the condition when playing emotionally which can accelerate one's heart when playing has a fast beat, you can also work with dealers who are able to handle things like convulsions, or heart attacks, at least they can provide first aid so that conditions are not too bad when , so in my opinion medical and medicinal places should at least be held in big casinos and even the smallest casinos.
There may still be casinos that haven't thought about having first aid kits or medical personnel because casinos have never encountered such a case. But with that incident, casino owners should have started preparing so that if something like this happened, they could immediately provide assistance to the victims. But gamblers should also make sure that they are fine and don't have heart disease so that if they experience a big loss or win, they won't have a heart attack, which can result in death due to late treatment. Gambling can affect one's emotions and heart because there will be moments when a person wins or loses big, which can make him shocked and unable to bear the overflowing feelings. It's better if casinos really have medical equipment such as first aid to provide first aid if someone has a heart attack. Only after that, the casino can contact the hospital to send the patient there for even more serious treatment. This is a valuable lesson for the casino so that it can be even better in the future and also a valuable lesson for gamblers so they can gamble with excellent physical condition.
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It is illegal for a huge business or establishment to not have any nurses or doctors on stand-by during hours of operation. I think the casino in question have the medical team and quick response team on their speed dial, it's just that the dealer failed to assess the situation correctly.
Really? I'm not aware about this. As far as I know only live events, especially the ones opened to the public, like shows, exhibitions and parties must have paramedicals in stand-by, walking among the public and attentive to any emergencies which may happen to support in time, until the ambulance arrives to take the patient to the hospital for further treatment. However, I have never seen such professionals at casinos in stand-by. As far as I know the maximum casinos have are bodyguards equipped with first-aid packages to treat light injuries and some emergencies.
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I'm also sure that for an international casino class they definitely provide a first aid kit. However, the first aid kit will not help people with heart attacks at all, the best way is to take them directly to the hospital.
Yes, I agree with you and the previous comments that the casino probably had a first aid kit but that it did not include a defibrillator. In large organisations it is not uncommon for there to be a defibrillator for every x number of people and at least some people are trained to use it if necessary. However, I imagine that statistically it is very rare, and that it is not just because of one case that casinos the size of this one are going to be forced to have defibrillators and train their staff. There's just a protociol in which the staffs of a casino would be following. In case of emergencies then protocols should include an urgent action with such instance. First aid would help indeed but still it would be better to put professionals in your casino ( for landbased ones). For sure casinos in such cases are having huge revenue already for them to not be prepared of unfortunate cases including health related one. All businesses should be ready with health related problems and other emergencies pehaps fire related, since it is their service which collects people in your casino in the first place. And going back with protocols not all staffs are aware of the things to be done in such problem. Should they be knowledgeable of first aid? no, that's not their responsibility anymore. A casino should allot particular professionals for that.
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