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August 30, 2023, 06:54:26 AM
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I think casinos aren't to blame here because its up to states/countries to define laws enforcing health clinics or doctors in casinos. I feel like crowded casinos must have doctors for sure if they are far away to any health facilities. Emergency issues like this one happen very rarely but its very deadly as well. Cardiac issues are very dangerous sadly it's sometimes about your luck. My relative once experienced same went to hospital lately but survived.
It seems that it also has to do with the laws governing gambling in the state/country because if it's written in the regulations that casinos must provide health clinics or have medical personnel, the casinos will provide them. But if not, the casino will not provide it either because the casino is a place to play gambling and everyone already understands that only those who are healthy may or are allowed to play gambling because there is a risk of getting a heart attack.

However, the casino should immediately provide medical personnel to prevent heart attacks or other illnesses that can occur when customers are gambling. After all, it will be an additional service for its customers and it may be one of the best casinos because it has medical personnel who are always ready to help people who need them.

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August 30, 2023, 11:03:54 AM
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A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/

This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?

What i may support with your suggestion here is the use of first aid box and kit in case of emergency conditions, gambling platforms or locations aren't an arena where we could turn to be an hospital and people begin to come up gambling and displaying their health challenges over there, if it were to be the sports organizations, this would have been more acceptable because they are responsible for the welfare of their players they make use of in playing sports, but for casinos, theirs is to gambling and create an enabling environment for you to gamble and not to make an additional offer on any gamblers health challenges, but in case of the first aid emergency cases, such could be encouraged only.

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August 30, 2023, 11:44:12 AM
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Why would they blame the casino? Just imagine a person got sick and died from excessive alcohol addiction, does that makes the alcohol companies be liable for their deaths? No. We are all responsible for our actions and the choices we make. And deaths are inevitable, it may happen anytime and anywhere so they can't always blame it on others.

But I get the point that establishments, especially those who always deal with a lot of people in their business operation should always be ready for emergencies. Emergency tools and equipments are necessary, as well as staff who knows how to do first aid. And I think it's required to every businesses.
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August 30, 2023, 03:48:51 PM
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I think casinos aren't to blame here because its up to states/countries to define laws enforcing health clinics or doctors in casinos. I feel like crowded casinos must have doctors for sure if they are far away to any health facilities. Emergency issues like this one happen very rarely but its very deadly as well. Cardiac issues are very dangerous sadly it's sometimes about your luck. My relative once experienced same went to hospital lately but survived.
It seems that it also has to do with the laws governing gambling in the state/country because if it's written in the regulations that casinos must provide health clinics or have medical personnel, the casinos will provide them. But if not, the casino will not provide it either because the casino is a place to play gambling and everyone already understands that only those who are healthy may or are allowed to play gambling because there is a risk of getting a heart attack.

However, the casino should immediately provide medical personnel to prevent heart attacks or other illnesses that can occur when customers are gambling. After all, it will be an additional service for its customers and it may be one of the best casinos because it has medical personnel who are always ready to help people who need them.
Yes, I know that all of this is still related to the law and even though there is no law regulating casinos, they require a special clinic or doctor, but at least in OP's case it must be handled by the casino, such as bringing a private car and immediately taking him to the hospital, that is already part best of casino.
Or the security officer at the casino can be one of the people who can help if one day something happens as told by the OP so that even though the casino is a place to have fun, at least there is no worry if something health-related problems occur.

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August 30, 2023, 04:14:38 PM
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The deceased family are probably looking for a way to squeeze some money out of the casino. A lot of things could trigger cardiac arrest and it is not something that's written on the forehead, so how is the casino supposed to know the health condition of a player? If one of the requirements for setting up a casino is having a sick bay and employing the services of a professional first aider and if it could prove that it has a functional sick bay and they did all the could to help the deceased, then they might actually to win the case.

It's so bad when tragic events like this occurs and some persons try to use it for their own personal gains. The dead is dead, move on with your life, except it is the case of negligence from the casino.

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August 30, 2023, 05:37:17 PM
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I think casinos aren't to blame here because its up to states/countries to define laws enforcing health clinics or doctors in casinos. I feel like crowded casinos must have doctors for sure if they are far away to any health facilities. Emergency issues like this one happen very rarely but its very deadly as well. Cardiac issues are very dangerous sadly it's sometimes about your luck. My relative once experienced same went to hospital lately but survived.
It seems that it also has to do with the laws governing gambling in the state/country because if it's written in the regulations that casinos must provide health clinics or have medical personnel, the casinos will provide them. But if not, the casino will not provide it either because the casino is a place to play gambling and everyone already understands that only those who are healthy may or are allowed to play gambling because there is a risk of getting a heart attack.

However, the casino should immediately provide medical personnel to prevent heart attacks or other illnesses that can occur when customers are gambling. After all, it will be an additional service for its customers and it may be one of the best casinos because it has medical personnel who are always ready to help people who need them.
Yes, I know that all of this is still related to the law and even though there is no law regulating casinos, they require a special clinic or doctor, but at least in OP's case it must be handled by the casino, such as bringing a private car and immediately taking him to the hospital, that is already part best of casino.
Or the security officer at the casino can be one of the people who can help if one day something happens as told by the OP so that even though the casino is a place to have fun, at least there is no worry if something health-related problems occur.

This may sound absurd but for me I guess  offering services like private transportation to medical facilities can be a thoughtful touch that shows a casino's commitment to customer care. It's important for casinos to create an environment where customers feel both safe and supported in case unexpected health issues arise. Like this given as a merit or a reward for bonuses.

Balancing the fun and excitement of a casino with a responsible approach to customer well-being is a crucial aspect of maintaining a positive reputation and ensuring that visitors have a positive experience.

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August 31, 2023, 02:33:37 AM
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Yes, I know that all of this is still related to the law and even though there is no law regulating casinos, they require a special clinic or doctor, but at least in OP's case it must be handled by the casino, such as bringing a private car and immediately taking him to the hospital, that is already part best of casino.
Or the security officer at the casino can be one of the people who can help if one day something happens as told by the OP so that even though the casino is a place to have fun, at least there is no worry if something health-related problems occur.
If the casino can provide treatment such as taking the person to the hospital, that will be an added value to the casino. Many people will see that the casino cares about the user who gambles at his place and helps him by taking him to the hospital when he is sick. And this should not only be for people with heart disease but also for others who may be experiencing other illnesses. This should be a special concern of all casinos because no one knows who will be the next patient while gambling. Medical personnel can be from security officers but that is very rare because their skills are clearly different. The important thing is that the casino can pay attention to this problem to become a recommended place for people who want to gamble.

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August 31, 2023, 09:20:08 AM
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I think casinos aren't to blame here because its up to states/countries to define laws enforcing health clinics or doctors in casinos. I feel like crowded casinos must have doctors for sure if they are far away to any health facilities. Emergency issues like this one happen very rarely but its very deadly as well. Cardiac issues are very dangerous sadly it's sometimes about your luck. My relative once experienced same went to hospital lately but survived.
It seems that it also has to do with the laws governing gambling in the state/country because if it's written in the regulations that casinos must provide health clinics or have medical personnel, the casinos will provide them. But if not, the casino will not provide it either because the casino is a place to play gambling and everyone already understands that only those who are healthy may or are allowed to play gambling because there is a risk of getting a heart attack.

However, the casino should immediately provide medical personnel to prevent heart attacks or other illnesses that can occur when customers are gambling. After all, it will be an additional service for its customers and it may be one of the best casinos because it has medical personnel who are always ready to help people who need them.
Perhaps it’s also possible seeing casinos with medical health professionals but it may only be possible for big and reputable casinos since a lot of tourists people will definitely visit them. However, they should still not be blamed if there are any incidents like cardiac arrest and did not survive because first and foremost, players should always be responsible enough not to take some risks especially for those who have serious heart concerns as they may or may not survive when that happens.

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August 31, 2023, 09:33:21 AM
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Perhaps it’s also possible seeing casinos with medical health professionals but it may only be possible for big and reputable casinos since a lot of tourists people will definitely visit them. However, they should still not be blamed if there are any incidents like cardiac arrest and did not survive because first and foremost, players should always be responsible enough not to take some risks especially for those who have serious heart concerns as they may or may not survive when that happens.

If the casino is not required to have some kind of medical services or first aid to take care of immediate health challenges then it might be free but if it is mandatory like I know there are laws to provide such services where people gather or work incase of such emergency and the casino is found wanting then it will be a problem for them. Worse of it is the negligence on the part of the casino for not at least support a dying customer but was only interested in serving cards and continuing business.

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August 31, 2023, 10:32:09 AM
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Perhaps it’s also possible seeing casinos with medical health professionals but it may only be possible for big and reputable casinos since a lot of tourists people will definitely visit them. However, they should still not be blamed if there are any incidents like cardiac arrest and did not survive because first and foremost, players should always be responsible enough not to take some risks especially for those who have serious heart concerns as they may or may not survive when that happens.

This kind of accident is obviously unpredictable and may happen anywhere.  It may happen in restaurant, hotel, airport, even in religious places such as mosque and church. We cant blame the owner of the places where such an accident happened. But the suggestion for casino to provide health emergencies staff is good enough, I support this suggestion. I would even suggest, all public places should have such a health emergencies.

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August 31, 2023, 12:10:04 PM
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The permit to operate a casino is of course also accompanied by what things they must provide, such as a building or mall that must have an evacuation route when there is a disaster such as a fire and other things that are clear, so if the casino is not required to have first aid then they are not are required to fulfill them, and it's no secret that a business will comply more with the rules they must comply with than providing more things even though it is not an obligation.
Casinos are a place to get entertainment, What they have to do is at least train their staff to be able to provide assistance when there are certain cases or collaborate with one of the nearest hospitals for first aid, but if that is not an obligation then the casino cannot be blamed, that's in my opinion.

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August 31, 2023, 12:30:05 PM
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I personally have never visited in major offline casino, so I do not have an idea or any personal experience on how prepared they are for unpredicted emergencies most especially in the health area, but then I agree with you, the casino is a place where people go to, spend much time sitting or moving around, some addicted gamblers can stay in the casino from morning till the evening, so I personally consider it common sense for such a business to have some medical stuffs, like a first aid box and possibly a medical staff on standby,  just in case something comes up that has to do with health, yeah, health issues is something that does not happen frequently in gambling areas like in the casino, but then, it's not foolish for the casino to prepare for such emergencies as no one can tell when or where such a thing might happen.

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September 01, 2023, 06:42:35 AM
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Perhaps it’s also possible seeing casinos with medical health professionals but it may only be possible for big and reputable casinos since a lot of tourists people will definitely visit them. However, they should still not be blamed if there are any incidents like cardiac arrest and did not survive because first and foremost, players should always be responsible enough not to take some risks especially for those who have serious heart concerns as they may or may not survive when that happens.
You are absolutely right that before a person visits a casino, he should make sure that he does not have any serious heart problems and can also control himself with whatever will happen to him during and after gambling. Casinos cannot always help someone with a serious illness, even though that is the job of the casino because that person comes to visit his place to play gambling but the person himself must ensure that he visits the casino in good health.

If each person and casino can carry out their duties and obligations well, everything will be fine. People with serious heart problems will also not get heart problems because they always ensure they are in a fit condition for gambling.

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September 01, 2023, 10:11:07 AM
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I personally have never visited in major offline casino, so I do not have an idea or any personal experience on how prepared they are for unpredicted emergencies most especially in the health area, but then I agree with you, the casino is a place where people go to, spend much time sitting or moving around, some addicted gamblers can stay in the casino from morning till the evening, so I personally consider it common sense for such a business to have some medical stuffs, like a first aid box and possibly a medical staff on standby,  just in case something comes up that has to do with health, yeah, health issues is something that does not happen frequently in gambling areas like in the casino, but then, it's not foolish for the casino to prepare for such emergencies as no one can tell when or where such a thing might happen.

Well, it's about laws and regulations in the end... here in Serbia, many companies have mandatory First Aid training. I have that every year once or twice, but it's just the first aid, that first reaction can save someone's life... but sometimes even the speed can't help. If anyone is destined to leave, that's it.

Having a full medical team ready for health emergencies is a big bonus wherever they are. But it's on the government to make some rules about it, and then casinos and all other big resorts will have it. When they earn millions they should be able to spend some money on this as well.

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Having a full medical team ready for health emergencies is a big bonus wherever they are. But it's on the government to make some rules about it, and then casinos and all other big resorts will have it. When they earn millions they should be able to spend some money on this as well.

This should be the requirements to meet before launching a casino especially offline and depending on the size because some are very large as a mega station or office while some are sub offices. So those that big should have the emergency care unit that could take care of such need before the person is taken to hospital for proper medication. Regulation and rules should be in the jurisdiction of the government, they are the one to ensure there is legal backing before casinos will comply but if there are non, then it will be business as usual and someone likely to survive if emergency care was given could die on the spot while trying to bet or viewing results of his bet because his heart pumped from the results he saw .

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September 01, 2023, 02:02:59 PM
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Casinos are better prepared for health emergencies because many people can get sick while gambling and they will get care quickly. But it will take a long time for casinos to implement it, where there is legal support and no other casino has taken such a step. An emergency is a situation that poses an immediate risk to health life property or the environment most emergencies require quick intervention to prevent damage. Although in some situations it may not be possible to prevent the damage, the latter only provides palliative services. Some emergencies may not be an immediate threat to human life if a doctor is employed but if the condition persists, it may harm the health and well-being of one or more persons.

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September 01, 2023, 02:48:36 PM
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Just imagine a person got sick and died from excessive alcohol addiction, does that makes the alcohol companies be liable for their deaths? No.

Your scenario is quite strange because, in this case, the casino has no hand in his death, not as if he was intoxicated by the game or something, because that's not even possible. It's simple: they can just run some autopsy examinations to find out the actual cause of his death, and the casino would not even face any penalty because they did not cause his death; they did not give him anything to drink, like alcohol, as you said. Casinos are places to catch fun, and it's assumed he went there to catch fun, but something terrible happened and he died. No one is to blame.

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September 04, 2023, 02:56:59 PM
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Why would they blame the casino? Just imagine a person got sick and died from excessive alcohol addiction, does that makes the alcohol companies be liable for their deaths? No. We are all responsible for our actions and the choices we make. And deaths are inevitable, it may happen anytime and anywhere so they can't always blame it on others.

But I get the point that establishments, especially those who always deal with a lot of people in their business operation should always be ready for emergencies. Emergency tools and equipments are necessary, as well as staff who knows how to do first aid. And I think it's required to every businesses.
If a person goes to a casino for gambling, gets a severe medical condition suffers for about 10 minutes, and then dies, the blame might not be on the casino for his death but his life could have been saved if the casino had a medical staff available every time or at least have an ambulance or a truck that could be used to take the patient to the nearest hospital as soon as his condition starts getting worse so that he can be saved and the public can say that casino has played its role.

It's obviously not their job to do that but if they do that, it will be a plus point for their services. If they can serve drinks and food and every other thing within the casino to earn some extra money, they should obviously take care of such serious matters as well and have preparations for such situations.

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September 05, 2023, 02:31:46 AM
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Why would they blame the casino? Just imagine a person got sick and died from excessive alcohol addiction, does that makes the alcohol companies be liable for their deaths? No. We are all responsible for our actions and the choices we make. And deaths are inevitable, it may happen anytime and anywhere so they can't always blame it on others.

But I get the point that establishments, especially those who always deal with a lot of people in their business operation should always be ready for emergencies. Emergency tools and equipments are necessary, as well as staff who knows how to do first aid. And I think it's required to every businesses.
I think those are precisely the misgiving of the family members of the dead, besides depending where you live regulations can be more or less strict, as there are places where if you witness a crime or an accident you are mandated by law to report it and if you do not then you are committing a crime.

And since the person suffered a cardiac arrest on their installations and they took too long to report it the casino may liable to pay the family some money as a form of restitution.

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September 05, 2023, 12:56:56 PM
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Just imagine a person got sick and died from excessive alcohol addiction, does that makes the alcohol companies be liable for their deaths? No.
Your scenario is quite strange because, in this case, the casino has no hand in his death, not as if he was intoxicated by the game or something, because that's not even possible. It's simple: they can just run some autopsy examinations to find out the actual cause of his death, and the casino would not even face any penalty because they did not cause his death; they did not give him anything to drink, like alcohol, as you said. Casinos are places to catch fun, and it's assumed he went there to catch fun, but something terrible happened and he died. No one is to blame.
And he should have known that casinos do serve alcohol but he had to control himself if he wanted to drink alcohol. He may drink the alcohol but must be limited to avoid exceeding the limit. And if he experiences something, it's better if the casino has or provides a first aid kit for the patient so he can survive and be taken to the hospital. Maybe after that incident, the casino will apply for a health certificate from a personal doctor or general practitioner so that no similar incident can occur in the future. Casinos that don't yet have first aid kits are starting to be required to provide them so that patients can be helped and it's too late to treat them.

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