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August 25, 2023, 10:09:39 PM
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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin.  As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes.  I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options.  From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

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August 25, 2023, 10:52:20 PM
Last edit: August 25, 2023, 11:36:53 PM by _typer_
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And since we both agree that we should do this only with people we trust, I guess that we can also agree that this exquisite list cannot contain any random plumber we hire  Wink

Totally agree  Smiley

And thanks for "The Random Plumber" - may it become a meme  Wink

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August 25, 2023, 10:57:04 PM
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I try my best to talk about bitcoin to people I see to be more curious about technology and innovation. Most people I have come in contact with are learned enough to assimilate blockchain technology and those already into it and they pretend and after i have finished conversing with them then they would own up to have knowledge about bitcoin but are just on a low key so as not to be known for security reasons.

Actually, it is nice if we do ask workmen their payment option or possibly we give them option to choose there and then they would open up to accepting their payment medium. From this we can be able to tell people about bitcoin to those who are not familiar with bitcoin as they would be curious to asking questions about bitcoin to knowing about it then. With this strategy bitcoin sensitization would go along way to the society through the skilled labour categories of people.

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August 25, 2023, 10:57:42 PM
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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

People who are living in countries where bitcoin is accepted as legal are free to ask. People who are in countries where bitcoin is banned dare not ask such questions.
Besides, people who have discovered the treasure in bitcoin do not want to be publicly identified as bitcoiners.
At this stage of life, many people have known about bitcoin, and the massive adoption is gradually u folding. Let's watch and see how everything will play out.

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August 25, 2023, 11:01:10 PM
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I don't think it's a good idea. You can still make the purchase with cash, why messing up with bitcoin? You're putting yourself in an unnecessarily dangerous position. At this point, anyone who's known to own bitcoin is quickly thought as rich. It's just the way it is.

But, even if you weren't becoming target, what's the point of that anyway? If you want to pay a plumber, pay him with cash. Easy, free-of-charge, fully private.
You made a lot of sense sir. Sometimes we are responsible for some of the calamities that befall us. There are good reasons why some persons are very discreet with their crypto dealings and one of the reasons is because they don't want to attract unnecessary attention to themselves. If he had used Bitcoin away from home it would have been better but inviting a total stranger to his home and offering to pay him with Bitcoin, is not a smart thing to do. With many persons having the wrong impression that Bitcoin enthusiasts are well to do, the plumber might even gang up and come rob him.

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August 25, 2023, 11:35:25 PM
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Very few have the positive mind whereas the majority doesn't have any positive thoughts and they simply term bitcoin as scam and a manipulated one. They never understand better about bitcoin, it takes lots and lots of time. Just on requesting the people nothing gonna change. OP should continue to ask the same question with different people on various professions and if we see more than 30% ready to accept bitcoin payments then we're good with the spread on bitcoin.

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August 25, 2023, 11:44:09 PM
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He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.
What do you mean by "people don't ask"? If you offer a service you should be the one giving the payment option in advance, especially if we're talking about jobs like plumbers, electricians, etc, that work in somebody else's place, so you don't have like a desk where the customer can see that you accept this and that. He should have been the one to ask you how you wanted to pay, not the other way around.

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August 25, 2023, 11:58:10 PM
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Well, I guess it wasnt that bad to ask if they want Bitcoin I mean if someone is really in into Bitcoin they could easily ask for it but not everyone owns Bitcoin and i guess if your the one paying you could easily ask something lile that. I mean i wouldnt do it because of the hassle and fees, i dont really store Bitcoin on centralized platforms because its kinda risky for sure I just store mine on Electrum wallet accessing needs a laptop or pc and for convinient I wouldnt ask someone for Bitcoin Payment.

Maybe if the Bitcoin adaptation continue to grow it is probably going to be possible, since I can already see cryptocurrency being adapted on Banks platform allowing you to buy and sell cryptocurrency, but right now i just dont see Bitcoin as something that you could use especially on payment transactions jist because of the volatile market price.

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I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.
This is really nice, some people we think have no idea about bitcoin really know’s about it, but most of them don’t just talk about it. If you go to a store and you made your payment with bitcoin, it’s not really a bad idea, but if someone come to your house to fix something for you and you exposed it to the person that you are having bitcoin, don’t you think the person might end up coming back or sending people to you to steal the remaining bitcoin from you, and they might even end up getting you injured? We all should be careful about telling people about our bitcoin holdings, nobody can be trusted.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?
No, I haven’t done that before, and I think it’s not really necessary for now to avoid unnecessary stress. When you ask some people if you can pay them with bitcoin, some of them might end up thinking you even want to scam them, and since the central bank of my country is against bitcoin, your account might end up being reported if the wrong person knows that you are into bitcoin.

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In my opinion, I think the promotion of a thing come with bigger task. People this days, find it difficult to engage in long term investment, as they need money for their immediate needs. Secondly, many person do not have the strength to withstand the deep moment in bitcoins. The best way to go about promotion is to introduce them to it, let them do their own research. Give them attention when they need help and put them true.
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August 26, 2023, 05:01:03 AM
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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?
I never tried and didn't dare since my government prohibited using Bitcoin as a payment and only allowed it as a commodity asset for trade. Even if they (workers) have the Bitcoin payment option, I still do not use it to avoid legal issues.
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August 26, 2023, 05:07:03 AM
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While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.


When your workers work for a minimum wage it doesn't matter whether they collect they money in FIAT or BTC. They'll still have to spend most of the money to pay their bills and there will be nothing left to save up. Actually in these situations FIAT is even better because we still can't pay all the bills via BTC and that means these workers will have to go a crypto exchange, convert their crypto to FIAT first, withdraw and then pay the bills. It will create so many extra steps...

If the workers are getting paid well enough then it is a completely different scenario. These people are probably making investments in various assets and if you pay them in btc, they will surely keep some of it.

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August 26, 2023, 05:16:50 AM
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The water system in my house got some blocking issues and I needed to call a plumber, the plumber guy I was used to was not available, I called and he said he is far away, so I looked for someone else.

After he went through the problem and fixed the pipes for me, out of joke I gave him payment options that are available, if he will like any.

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Thats a great idea. I have never done that in IRL to be honest I never thought there could be anyone IRL who could accept Bitcoins. because bitcoin is not really is being used here just like you said you that. but I had asked anyone who I worked with online for bitcoin payments. some accepted bitcoins and most of them refused.
I think we should do that more often and ask IRL vendors and workers if they accept bitcoin. maybe that's how we can find bitcoin users in our area/city.
 

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August 26, 2023, 05:18:05 AM
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I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.
This is really nice, some people we think have no idea about bitcoin really know’s about it, but most of them don’t just talk about it. If you go to a store and you made your payment with bitcoin, it’s not really a bad idea, but if someone come to your house to fix something for you and you exposed it to the person that you are having bitcoin, don’t you think the person might end up coming back or sending people to you to steal the remaining bitcoin from you, and they might even end up getting you injured? We all should be careful about telling people about our bitcoin holdings, nobody can be trusted.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?
No, I haven’t done that before, and I think it’s not really necessary for now to avoid unnecessary stress. When you ask some people if you can pay them with bitcoin, some of them might end up thinking you even want to scam them, and since the central bank of my country is against bitcoin, your account might end up being reported if the wrong person knows that you are into bitcoin.


I somehow agree with you. Right now, it is better to be on the low about it. If an individual is the one to bring it up as a term of payment, especially for well-known establishments around the area, like stores, gas stations, and boutiques, then sure. However, if they are just one individual who you are not familiar with and is pretty sketchy then just keep it as a secret. We are still in a situation where it is difficult to know who we can trust regarding Bitcoin.

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August 26, 2023, 05:20:52 AM
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In my opinion, I think the promotion of a thing come with bigger task. People this days, find it difficult to engage in long term investment, as they need money for their immediate needs. Secondly, many person do not have the strength to withstand the deep moment in bitcoins. The best way to go about promotion is to introduce them to it, let them do their own research. Give them attention when they need help and put them true.
And what you get? nothing.

In a positive way, your friend will understand if investment is important and he might able to change his financial status become better. You will get a good friend and has a same interest with Bitcoin.

In a negative way, you will wasting your time, you friend will keep asking you about Bitcoin, they mocking you if Bitcoin is scam and worthless, your friend might become a criminal in order to steal your coins.

You're risking your life and get nothing.

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August 26, 2023, 05:33:04 AM
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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?

I don't think such a question should be asked in the first place. It's not that I don't want to promote Bitcoin but let the adoption take place without doing such. Unless these people open up their interest in having Bitcoin as payment first, I should welcome it and might consider doing that.

Anyhow, in the particular case you shared with us, the workers instead are the ones who need to open up that they accept bitcoin, not the other way around which is the one who hired them. Not just bitcoin but before offering a service, especially a home service, they should always present their accepted payment methods.

If they really want to be paid in bitcoin, why they don't mention it in their ads or posts? As per your story, he said that people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment. That doesn't make sense if he really wants to be paid in Bitcoin. Does it mean they will just wait before someone offers them to accept Bitcoin payment instead?

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August 26, 2023, 05:52:51 AM
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the majority of us are sleepwalking through life, unaware of the undercurrents of change. When you offered him Bitcoin, a door to financial evolution swung open. It’s no surprise he's a student; the youth often lead these revolutions.

Do you know how many workers would adopt Bitcoin if we just ASKED? People fear what they don’t understand. But this plumber? He understands. Hes part of a new paradigm. For a currency revolution to take place, its up to US to initiate the conversation.

Bitcoin isnt just digital gold; its a reflection of our collective consciousness shifting towards decentralized systems. Start asking, start promoting, and maybe, just maybe, we can set the sails towards a future less dependent on outdated monetary systems

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This would probably depend on where you're from, in my country, there's not a lot of interest in cryptocurrency or bitcoin so even if you advertise that your business accepts bitcoin, it's not getting that much attention, most of the population is pretty old-fashioned when it comes to mode of payments in my country so I don't know if it's worth to ask maybe in a more developed cities in my country, I might be able to find one, take my testimony with a grain of salt though, it's my experience and your experience might be different.

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  Sad
Now I want to know what happened to the people that you've mentioned, seems to me like you've got the last laugh out of them but I'm not satisfied with that, I want to know what's happened to them. Totally with you about being lowkey about owning bitcoin, nothing good comes out of bragging your bitcoin and those that would probably see your bitcoin will only be interested until the conversation is over.
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No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin.  As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes.  I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options.  From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

I live in country (Pakistan) where crypto is ban and people hide there involvement in crpyto to avoid legal actions against them. The government here is getting more and aggressive towards bitcoin. The countries where crypto is not banned, you can ask anyone whether he accept Bitcoin or not. But still paying to plumber or any other merchant in Bitcoin is not ideal because of time it takes to settle the transactions. LN may be a better option to choose if you have to pay in Bitcoin. 
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August 26, 2023, 07:47:27 AM
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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin.  As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes.  I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options.  From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

I will do the same thing as you, I will never mention bitcoin to strangers I don't know. That's like bragging and will take away my privacy while I'm trying to hide it. Even if that plumber mentioned bitcoin to me, I would shake my head and ignore it. I'm not afraid of being stolen or robbed, but it's really not a good idea to share my privacy with strangers.
I'm not against sharing bitcoins with everyone, but it also depends on the case and the person we share it with, if it's a relative, it really doesn't matter.

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