Concept of Halal Casino

[qwertyup23]

It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

I'm not a muslim and don't consider gambling a sin but I believe that you shouldn't knowingly commit the same sin every day even if you pray and do something good right after commiting that sin.

I agree with your statement.

From what I have heard and learned, gambling is absolutely prohibited under the Islamic rules and regulations. According to them, Allah has forbidden gambling and it is considered as a sin. Seeing a Muslim working around and circumventing such is somehow displeasing to see but I guess they have their own discussion about it.

Though this may be the case, a concept of a "Halal" casino is potentially bound to fail. Imagine, naming a gambling casino in a Muslim term definitely spark red flags on it. I doubt that Muslims and other people would even attempt to try this without going against their beliefs.

[masulum]

Still no sense at all if they pray and still commit a sin after they play on a what so called halal casino and I don't really get the point about trying to rise up a same like concept since at the end of the day gambling still consider as a big sin on their religion. That's why I have huge respect to our muslim brothers since they usually follow what is prohibited to them and also their sacrifices to follow what is good on their religion and their beliefs.

"Halal Casino" makes this an inconvenient thing. Some of us will definitely have a different assessment of this. I personally do not agree with using Halal Casino, but for advertising it can be fine, as long as it does not intend to offend religion. And, a Muslim is not prohibited from entering/visiting the casino, the prohibition (religious context) applies when he comes and gambles, but we know that gamble can do by anyone. Maybe, it would be more respectful if it didn't use the word "Halal", even though it contains halal food and a prayer place at the Casino for Muslim gamblers.

[fullhdpixel]

Well, if something goes too deep with this then it is not surprising. It's better not to practice or touch or get into the boundaries of beliefs that are against gambling and religion.

But as what others have said, this is not for real and the video maker did a good job for making everyone curious if there's one really in existence and as well as with the help of OP.

I wonder if something like that exists for real, will the leaders of the Islam will sue the developers of it.

I have a lot of respect for Mufti Menk and I know that he is a great scholar with a very vast knowledge and experience of the religion that he preaches and he is a humble and good person. However, I know and all of us know how YouTube basically works and how people make clickbait titles and thumbnails so that people watch their videos and get more views and engagements with the video they've posted. I'm sure it's done by his team and not himself.

Getting back to the topic, there cannot be a halal casino at all even if Muslim scholars or leaders of Islam don't sue the creators or anything, there is basically no concept like that because in gambling, you need to make bets, and win money, and that is haram in Islam no matter how it's done.

[BitcoinPanther]

Well, if something goes too deep with this then it is not surprising. It's better not to practice or touch or get into the boundaries of beliefs that are against gambling and religion.

But as what others have said, this is not for real and the video maker did a good job for making everyone curious if there's one really in existence and as well as with the help of OP.

I wonder if something like that exists for real, will the leaders of the Islam will sue the developers of it.

I have a lot of respect for Mufti Menk and I know that he is a great scholar with a very vast knowledge and experience of the religion that he preaches and he is a humble and good person. However, I know and all of us know how YouTube basically works and how people make clickbait titles and thumbnails so that people watch their videos and get more views and engagements with the video they've posted. I'm sure it's done by his team and not himself.

I do not believe that he has no knowledge about his team's doing, besides as the speaker of the said stream, I am sure that his team has his go signal in posting such stuff.  Aside from that the explanation itself is done by him and not by his team.  the title and the concept somehow connect since he is explaining that it is better to have 1 sin than committing more like when a person is gambling, that is one sin, eating non halal food, another sin, and missing prayers when it is time to pray, another sin is being lessen by a casino offering Halal food and  place for prayer. 

Getting back to the topic, there cannot be a halal casino at all even if Muslim scholars or leaders of Islam don't sue the creators or anything, there is basically no concept like that because in gambling, you need to make bets, and win money, and that is haram in Islam no matter how it's done.

Obviously because for Islamic religion gambling is haram and once haram, it cannot be Halal.

[ethereumhunter]

That is exactly what Mufti Menk is trying to explain in the video. He says that a casino providing halal food or a place for prayer is not a bad thing at all because if a Muslim is gambling at that casino, he might also offer his prayers on time and we are no one to actually judge someone based on his actions because that who will judge them has the ability to see through their heart and mind and understand what they do and what they want to do.

A person who is committing a sin or something that is forbidden by their religion, doesn't need to think that if they are committing one sin, there is no use in doing things that will earn them virtues because it is not our job to decide that but we just need to make sure that we are doing more and more good things.

We can only see someone from the outside, so there will be incorrect perceptions, especially if we can't understand the cause. We also may not be able to say it is a sin because God only knows it is a sin. We as ordinary humans, can only try to carry out what God commands us to do. And because we are humans, we cannot always be strong in facing temptation, which is why humans often commit sins without realizing it. But as long as he still wants to do good, that means he still wants to ask for forgiveness from God and even though he still sins, it is up to God what the outcome will be.

[LDL]

Still no sense at all if they pray and still commit a sin after they play on a what so called halal casino and I don't really get the point about trying to rise up a same like concept since at the end of the day gambling still consider as a big sin on their religion. That's why I have huge respect to our muslim brothers since they usually follow what is prohibited to them and also their sacrifices to follow what is good on their religion and their beliefs.

"Halal Casino" makes this an inconvenient thing. Some of us will definitely have a different assessment of this. I personally do not agree with using Halal Casino, but for advertising it can be fine, as long as it does not intend to offend religion. And, a Muslim is not prohibited from entering/visiting the casino, the prohibition (religious context) applies when he comes and gambles, but we know that gamble can do by anyone. Maybe, it would be more respectful if it didn't use the word "Halal", even though it contains halal food and a prayer place at the Casino for Muslim gamblers.

In fact casino cannot be halal for Muslims in principle because it can never be recognized as halal by fatwa. Those of us who are living our lives by checking halal and haram according to the path shown by the Creator and the Holy Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, will never accept casinos as halal. Since casino is already prohibited by God's rules and guidance and is a bad sin, we Muslims can never recognize it as halal.
But if a mufti goes to recognize it as halal then it must be rejected.
In the early days of Islam, people indulged in gambling and casinos, and at that time Muslim followers fought against gambling and casinos and worked hard to bring those who indulged in it to the right path. Had it been halal by Islamic Shariah, the Muslim followers would not have declared war against it in the early days.

[noormcs5]

That is exactly what Mufti Menk is trying to explain in the video. He says that a casino providing halal food or a place for prayer is not a bad thing at all because if a Muslim is gambling at that casino, he might also offer his prayers on time and we are no one to actually judge someone based on his actions because that who will judge them has the ability to see through their heart and mind and understand what they do and what they want to do.

A person who is committing a sin or something that is forbidden by their religion, doesn't need to think that if they are committing one sin, there is no use in doing things that will earn them virtues because it is not our job to decide that but we just need to make sure that we are doing more and more good things.

We can only see someone from the outside, so there will be incorrect perceptions, especially if we can't understand the cause. We also may not be able to say it is a sin because God only knows it is a sin. We as ordinary humans, can only try to carry out what God commands us to do. And because we are humans, we cannot always be strong in facing temptation, which is why humans often commit sins without realizing it. But as long as he still wants to do good, that means he still wants to ask for forgiveness from God and even though he still sins, it is up to God what the outcome will be.

Don't you think that these people are trying to present things in such a way that gambling looks legit for every religion? Only the people who belong to certain religions can tell what exactly the religion says about gambling ?

For instance, only the Muslims know what exactly their religious stance is about gambling. Similarly, Christians know about their belief and Hindus have their own belief about gambling. Every person should first check what his religion says about gambling and only then should decide whether gambling is permissible in their religion or not.

[Blitzboy]

That is exactly what Mufti Menk is trying to explain in the video. He says that a casino providing halal food or a place for prayer is not a bad thing at all because if a Muslim is gambling at that casino, he might also offer his prayers on time and we are no one to actually judge someone based on his actions because that who will judge them has the ability to see through their heart and mind and understand what they do and what they want to do.

A person who is committing a sin or something that is forbidden by their religion, doesn't need to think that if they are committing one sin, there is no use in doing things that will earn them virtues because it is not our job to decide that but we just need to make sure that we are doing more and more good things.

We can only see someone from the outside, so there will be incorrect perceptions, especially if we can't understand the cause. We also may not be able to say it is a sin because God only knows it is a sin. We as ordinary humans, can only try to carry out what God commands us to do. And because we are humans, we cannot always be strong in facing temptation, which is why humans often commit sins without realizing it. But as long as he still wants to do good, that means he still wants to ask for forgiveness from God and even though he still sins, it is up to God what the outcome will be.

You know, its fascinating how much weight humans place on external perceptions. We would all be millionaires, after all, if our opinions were a form of money. Leaving that aside, you've touched on a fundamental idea: comprehending the causes of human behavior. It's similar to entering a casino. If you witness someone placing significant bets, you might assume that they are another risky gambler. Who's to say, though? Maybe they've set aside money for gaming, and they're staying well within their means.

We frequently refer to gambling as a game of chance, but isnt life similar to gambling in many ways? Every deed, even good deeds and sins, is a gamble. And while some people think a superior being is watching and judging, others think self-accountability is more important. The common idea, however, whether you're in a church or a casino, is knowing your limits, asking for forgiveness when you violate them, and trying to improve. Dont you think so?

[Webetcoins]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

Just like someone who does a lot of research before making an investment so that they don't lose money and be sure that their investment is in the right place, one should do the same when it comes to religion and things and teachings about the religion that they follow. There can always be good and bad preachers in a religion, one might say one thing and another say a different thing, and this will confuse a lot of people about who is right and who is wrong.

In such situations, if a person has some interest in knowing the reality, they should do their own research about that thing, they should read the correct books themselves and ask different people that they know have a lot of knowledge about the religion they are following so that they can give them the information they are looking for.

[mirakal]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

Muslims have always been devoted to their own rules and tradition, that is why it’s rare to them breaking their rules and justifying those negative over positive actions. But let’s face the reality that these new generation Muslims have been more trying to distort things what has been established. Gambling is always not allowed for Muslims but look at them now, a lot of casinos are actually seen with Muslim gamblers and it’s like they have started to change their rules for their own convenience, even if gambling is a big sin in their religion.

[Bd officer]

Muslims have always been devoted to their own rules and tradition, that is why it’s rare to them breaking their rules and justifying those negative over positive actions. But let’s face the reality that these new generation Muslims have been more trying to distort things what has been established. Gambling is always not allowed for Muslims but look at them now, a lot of casinos are actually seen with Muslim gamblers and it’s like they have started to change their rules for their own convenience, even if gambling is a big sin in their religion.

You are right, but those who know that gambling is prohibited in Islam, yet those who gamble are not really Muslims. Because of some opportunistic people this is the case today, a true Muslim can never be addicted to gambling. People were not so addicted to gambling in the past when there were no phones, laptops or computers. But nowadays everyone has a laptop computer and now everyone can play gambling at home. In the past, Muslims were not so addicted to gambling, your point is true that many Muslims of the new generation have become addicted to gambling. I think next generation Muslims will be more addicted to gambling. So it is the responsibility of every Muslim parent to keep their children away from gambling.

[DYING_S0UL]

Gambling & Halal?  

Those two words doesn't go together brother. It is strictly forbidden in Islam. It's like saying Bismillah before ( means "In the name of God" ) eating pork or drinking wine (any kind of alcohol or pork is strictly forbidden to consume). You may use alcohol for medical or other purpose but can't consume it.  

There is no such think as Halal Gambling or Halal Alcohol or Halal Pork. Forbidden means forbidden no exception.

[bayu7adi]

Gambling & Halal?  

Those two words doesn't go together brother. It is strictly forbidden in Islam. It's like saying Bismillah before ( means "In the name of God" ) eating pork or drinking wine (any kind of alcohol or pork is strictly forbidden to consume). You may use alcohol for medical or other purpose but can't consume it.  

There is no such think as Halal Gambling or Halal Alcohol or Halal Pork. Forbidden means forbidden no exception.

Have you not watched the video yet, or are you responding based solely on the title? There is no religious sanction for gambling in the teachings of Islam, but as humans, sometimes we also must respect others who seek to do good.

Everyone is not free from sin, but in my view, it is wrong for someone to prevent others from doing good even within the confines of a casino.

The notion of a casino offering halal food or a dedicated place of worship for Muslim individuals may indeed sound unconventional. However, at the very least, when someone still holds firm to the principles of their faith, they should be entitled to worship rights even in an environment filled with sin.

[HelliumZ]

It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

I'm not a muslim and don't consider gambling a sin but I believe that you shouldn't knowingly commit the same sin every day even if you pray and do something good right after commiting that sin.

It is true that we as Muslims constantly commit sins worse than gambling and we do not care about those sins. Just as praying five times as a Muslim is obligatory, if we miss any prayer without reason, then we have committed a serious sin. So I promise not to commit all those major sins without looking at gambling.

[DYING_S0UL]

Gambling & Halal?  

Those two words doesn't go together brother. It is strictly forbidden in Islam. It's like saying Bismillah before ( means "In the name of God" ) eating pork or drinking wine (any kind of alcohol or pork is strictly forbidden to consume). You may use alcohol for medical or other purpose but can't consume it.  

There is no such think as Halal Gambling or Halal Alcohol or Halal Pork. Forbidden means forbidden no exception.

Have you not watched the video yet, or are you responding based solely on the title? There is no religious sanction for gambling in the teachings of Islam, but as humans, sometimes we also must respect others who seek to do good.

Everyone is not free from sin, but in my view, it is wrong for someone to prevent others from doing good even within the confines of a casino.

The notion of a casino offering halal food or a dedicated place of worship for Muslim individuals may indeed sound unconventional. However, at the very least, when someone still holds firm to the principles of their faith, they should be entitled to worship rights even in an environment filled with sin.

Yes brother I have seen the video but I have posted solely on my own. I am not discouraging others nor preventing anyone from doing good. I honestly respect others and I respect their opinions.

But as a Muslim, I must say what I believe, when it comes to my religion. If one of my brother makes a sin or mistake it is my duty to correct him. Yes nobody is free of sin, even I. But I try to be as good as possible.

As the Mufti said, It's about the first step. Even if you are not entirely correct you are somehow correct. And with time you will get there. May one day In Sha Allah we get there.  

[ethereumhunter]

Don't you think that these people are trying to present things in such a way that gambling looks legit for every religion? Only the people who belong to certain religions can tell what exactly the religion says about gambling ?

For instance, only the Muslims know what exactly their religious stance is about gambling. Similarly, Christians know about their belief and Hindus have their own belief about gambling. Every person should first check what his religion says about gambling and only then should decide whether gambling is permissible in their religion or not.

Yes, they try various interesting concepts that make ordinary people think it is valid for every religion. If they wanted to think about it, they would find that it is still haram for their religion and should not try it. Often, people's understanding is twisted incoherently to confuse them about what their religion teaches, which has been happening for a long time. And this is what makes many people of the same religion often have different opinions because they get this knowledge from different people.

People should do what you say to know that gambling is prohibited in their religion and that they will not want to go near gambling. But, because there are differences in understanding, many people cannot think clearly because they have received a lot of information that may not be correct.

You know, its fascinating how much weight humans place on external perceptions. We would all be millionaires, after all, if our opinions were a form of money. Leaving that aside, you've touched on a fundamental idea: comprehending the causes of human behavior. It's similar to entering a casino. If you witness someone placing significant bets, you might assume that they are another risky gambler. Who's to say, though? Maybe they've set aside money for gaming, and they're staying well within their means.

We frequently refer to gambling as a game of chance, but isnt life similar to gambling in many ways? Every deed, even good deeds and sins, is a gamble. And while some people think a superior being is watching and judging, others think self-accountability is more important. The common idea, however, whether you're in a church or a casino, is knowing your limits, asking for forgiveness when you violate them, and trying to improve. Dont you think so?

If they can stay within their limits, that is very good because they will not exceed their limits just because they want to chase victory and can control their gambling activities well. But that happens because we can only judge what we see without knowing what is implied, which often becomes a misunderstanding and causes us to be in trouble. We make things more complicated because there are many considerations in our minds.

Yes, life is also a gambling or game of chance. But some people might reject it if someone said something like that because they feel they are struggling hard to get through every journey in life. And that's true. We also can't immediately blame people who think like that because maybe they have different thoughts from us. We can only get through each day well and try to be better. And that's what we are, humans.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Though this may be the case, a concept of a "Halal" casino is potentially bound to fail. Imagine, naming a gambling casino in a Muslim term definitely spark red flags on it. I doubt that Muslims and other people would even attempt to try this without going against their beliefs.

If you see any business started with the name of religion and their religion forbids it, it's 100% scam. They are just using the name of the religion to get attention and misguide people. The halal casino is not possible, nor the video mentioned in the OP is about the halal casinos. The title is 100% misleading, and I requested OP to change it in my previous post.

They might use the name as Halal casino so they can attract Muslims to play in their casino. The Truth is it's Haram in Islam and practicing Mulism won't play there because if someone do business with the name of their religion, it's a trap.

[Apocollapse]

No need to find a halal casino if someone want to gamble, a normal casino is same. After all it's back to your belief and what you think is right, if you think gambling is haram, just avoid to gamble.

They might use the name as Halal casino so they can attract Muslims to play in their casino. The Truth is it's Haram in Islam and practicing Mulism won't play there because if someone do business with the name of their religion, it's a trap.

Not really, conventional bank is haram in Islam, but if the bank is using Islamic name e.g. sharia and then they claimed to not offering interest rate, actually it's legal. Do you want to say Sharia bank is haram? you will get mocked and bullied by Muslims

[masulum]

In fact casino cannot be halal for Muslims in principle because it can never be recognized as halal by fatwa. Those of us who are living our lives by checking halal and haram according to the path shown by the Creator and the Holy Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, will never accept casinos as halal. Since casino is already prohibited by God's rules and guidance and is a bad sin, we Muslims can never recognize it as halal.
But if a mufti goes to recognize it as halal then it must be rejected.
In the early days of Islam, people indulged in gambling and casinos, and at that time Muslim followers fought against gambling and casinos and worked hard to bring those who indulged in it to the right path. Had it been halal by Islamic Shariah, the Muslim followers would not have declared war against it in the early days.

Maybe my knowledge is too low, but what I know, ^CMIIW, Casinos are places, all places can be visited by Muslims, but gambling is an action, this action is forbidden (haram). You can come to church as a Muslim, but you cannot join in worship following what Christians do because doing this, is haram. Likewise with the casino. Because a casino is a place, Muslims can come, but they cannot gamble that is the fact. Once again, a lot of Muslims also doing gambling, even me have an experience with gambling. However, using the word Halal makes people think that this is a blasphemy against Islam. For me, that's not right, we don't know what it really means (the reason casino owner using Halal name). Using the word Halal for the wrong thing, that's why I said that I myself do not agree with the use of that word.

[Strongkored]

I thought gambling is forbidden according to the Quran. This situation seems to be an attempt to make an exemption. I don't know if it's approved by other Muslim leaders. When you mention gambling, it should be automatically considered forbidden.

This pertains to religion; I am not Muslim. We would like to hear from our Muslim brothers here whether they would agree to gambling at a Halal Casino.

So how about eating pork? Is there some kind of Halal Pork, or something?

I tried watching the video for a few moments, and the conclusion I came to was that he was not introducing Halal Casinos or saying that Casinos could be labeled halal if they complied with the rules of the Islamic religion, The title of the video only attracted gamblers to draw the wrong conclusion if didn't watch the video.
The cleric in the video (perhaps he could be called that) is explaining that when we commit a sin such as gambling at a casino, it doesn't mean we have to be involved in other sins such as eating haram food or not praying as required.
Congratulations, the title of the video has made many people interested in watching it, but actually the title and explanation are not appropriate in my opinion and this is normal because YouTubers often do that to get more attention for their content.