Concept of Halal Casino

[UmerIdrees]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

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[Cantsay]

To be honest, I thought the video was about an Islamic casino or a casino that allows Muslims to gamble because I have seen so many of his videos on other topics and also some short clips from TikTok and his teachings are always good to listen to.

And to see his picture on a casino post really got my attention. Although his post didn’t ponder entirely on casino but I still got something from it, like we shouldn’t discourage one from doing something good even if all they have been doing in their life has been evil. And since gambling is haram we shouldn’t discourage those that partake in it to not do other holy things because we are all human and we can change for the better and that little good they did could be the catalyst for it.

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It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

I'm not a muslim and don't consider gambling a sin but I believe that you shouldn't knowingly commit the same sin every day even if you pray and do something good right after commiting that sin.

[Taskford]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

I'm not a muslim but isn't gambling is haram for them? Its a grave sin to them so I don't think there's halal and not halal on that.

Maybe the one running that casino just want to convince muslims to gamble to their casino for profit and they use the halal word so that they can convince muslim that they are safe to commit sin for playing on their casino. Also for those who follow the teaching of Islam will not risk to exchange their faith just to gamble and have short time glory with this casino.

[Ever-young]

It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

Yea if we look at the title alone we could say that they are misleading the public base on there belief but going through the entire video the speaker is actually making some points and it’s not encouraging gambling but rather he is advising those Muslim who already found them self in the means of gambling to not use that as an excuse of not praying because of the surrounding that they finds their self that doing that could be seen as a double sin, anyone who see any Muslim in the means of gambling should not also stop them from praying that they should allow them pray, that everything is done one step at at time, with them doing a little of good thing and praying always that they will have better chances of realizing that they are committing a great sin and are likely to change and come out of the sin over time, But discouraging them and calling them siners won’t help the matter at all, he also gave an instance of those who see people who dress half native that it’s better to advise them to dress decently than telling them to completely remove the cloth since they choose to be naked. I finds his teachings educative rather than weird.

[stadus]

I thought gambling is forbidden according to the Quran. This situation seems to be an attempt to make an exemption. I don't know if it's approved by other Muslim leaders. When you mention gambling, it should be automatically considered forbidden.

This pertains to religion; I am not Muslim. We would like to hear from our Muslim brothers here whether they would agree to gambling at a Halal Casino.

So how about eating pork? Is there some kind of Halal Pork, or something?

[noormcs5]

It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

Yea if we look at the title alone we could say that they are misleading the public base on there belief but going through the entire video the speaker is actually making some points and it’s not encouraging gambling but rather he is advising those Muslim who already found them self in the means of gambling to not use that as an excuse of not praying because of the surrounding that they finds their self that doing that could be seen as a double sin, anyone who see any Muslim in the means of gambling should not also stop them from praying that they should allow them pray, that everything is done one step at at time, with them doing a little of good thing and praying always that they will have better chances of realizing that they are committing a great sin and are likely to change and come out of the sin over time, But discouraging them and calling them siners won’t help the matter at all, he also gave an instance of those who see people who dress half native that it’s better to advise them to dress decently than telling them to completely remove the cloth since they choose to be naked. I finds his teachings educative rather than weird.

Yes, I watched the whole video and found that the title of this video plus the thumbnail in this video does not match the content presented in the video. This is more like a clickbait title/thumbnail and there is no talk about the legit casino in this video.

The speakers say that if you are doing one bad thing, that should not force you to do many bad things. Rather he is of the point of view that one bad deed should not stop you from doing other good deeds and when you keep on doing good deeds, you will automatically be refrain from doing the bad deeds which you were doing. That's the whole concept that is being explained there.

[knowngunman]

I thought gambling is forbidden according to the Quran. This situation seems to be an attempt to make an exemption. I don't know if it's approved by other Muslim leaders. When you mention gambling, it should be automatically considered forbidden.

This pertains to religion; I am not Muslim. We would like to hear from our Muslim brothers here whether they would agree to gambling at a Halal Casino.

So how about eating pork? Is there some kind of Halal Pork, or something?

Did you even take your time to watch the video or you just made your point from the headline? Gambling is haram and no one is attempting to make it halal in anyway. The point is when some people are engaging in sinful act, they do make it as an excuse not to perform prayers and other obligations again thinking that it will not be accepted from them since they are gambling or doing other haram things.

I have a friend here who doesn't pray the whole day whenever he misses subhi (morning prayer) and when I ask him either in the afternoon or evening why he's not praying? He says because he misses the morning prayer and even if he prays in the afternoon and evening God will not accept it. Lol that's the mentality the video is talking about.

You're gambling should not discourage you from performing other good deeds but you should know that you are sinning and must be punish for it if you don't repent.

[stadus]

I thought gambling is forbidden according to the Quran. This situation seems to be an attempt to make an exemption. I don't know if it's approved by other Muslim leaders. When you mention gambling, it should be automatically considered forbidden.

This pertains to religion; I am not Muslim. We would like to hear from our Muslim brothers here whether they would agree to gambling at a Halal Casino.

So how about eating pork? Is there some kind of Halal Pork, or something?

Did you even take your time to watch the video or you just made your point from the headline? Gambling is haram and no one is attempting to make it halal in anyway. The point is when some people are engaging in sinful act, they do make it as an excuse not to perform prayers and other obligations again thinking that it will not be accepted from them since they are gambling or doing other haram things.

I have a friend here who doesn't pray the whole day whenever he misses subhi (morning prayer) and when I ask him either in the afternoon or evening why he's not praying? He says because he misses the morning prayer and even if he prays in the afternoon and evening God will not accept it. Lol that's the mentality the video is talking about.

You're gambling should not discourage you from performing other good deeds but you should know that you are sinning and must be punish for it if you don't repent.

I started watching the video but didn't finish it because it didn't provide the type of explanation I was anticipating. I had hoped for a more in-depth clarification on why gambling is considered halal, but the content seemed rather general. It's possible that the video was just clickbait, as the previous poster pointed out.

Also, I don't want to debate other things; I just want to stick to gambling. To be honest, in religious debates, there is no absolute right or wrong, as both sides always want to be right.

[piebeyb]

Yes, I watched the whole video and found that the title of this video plus the thumbnail in this video does not match the content presented in the video. This is more like a clickbait title/thumbnail and there is no talk about the legit casino in this video.

Yes, maybe people immediately catch what is seen from the title that contains clickbait and are provoked by it, so they draw conclusions and immediately comment outside the actual context of the video, actually in Islam it teaches good things so always remember worship, even if you are a gambler or criminals, it's good that worship should never be abandoned because that way it will make people lose their way and make themselves worse.

Any worship will prevent us from doing something other evil in the future, maybe that's what is meant and captured from this video, acting as good people will help us become better later, therefore I can't comment much about this video before watching it's finished videos properly.

[Solosanz]

Ridiculous, gambling is obviously haram, even a conventional bank which only give interest rate from their operational income are considered as haram too. The only way gambling is halal in Islam is you're not put anything to bet, but you're play the game or make a guess with your opponent. But we've discuss it before where gambling without risking anything isn't a gambling.

[naira]

As we have seen the title and contents are very far away. It's not surprising that this content will definitely attract attention, because especially during the season, it's clear that gambling is prohibited. So to satisfy our curiosity about the delivery in the video, it definitely encourages us to watch it. Good marketing techniques only associated with a rule or religious law is highly unacceptable because it can damage the image of certain religious beliefs and be considered inconsistent. Apart from the contents of the video, which turned out not to match the thumbnail, it has its own agenda. I don't like that way of bringing religious law to a final action cannot be justified.

We admit we are gamblers but never dare to bring up the name of a particular religion in order to justify wrong actions, because religious matters are not a realm that can be toyed with arbitrarily.

[knowngunman]

I started watching the video but didn't finish it because it didn't provide the type of explanation I was anticipating. I had hoped for a more in-depth clarification on why gambling is considered halal, but the content seemed rather general. It's possible that the video was just clickbait, as the previous poster pointed out.

Also, I don't want to debate other things; I just want to stick to gambling. To be honest, in religious debates, there is no absolute right or wrong, as both sides always want to be right.

Now you understand the motive behind the headline. Religious argument is unhealthy especially in a platform like this but tbh your first comment sounds like a mockery to a certain religion by saying halal pork. However, there are some scholars who like to deviate from general public and their gullible followers will blindly follow them else gambling can not be polish in whatever way to make it halal. I am also a gambler by the way.

[stadus]

I started watching the video but didn't finish it because it didn't provide the type of explanation I was anticipating. I had hoped for a more in-depth clarification on why gambling is considered halal, but the content seemed rather general. It's possible that the video was just clickbait, as the previous poster pointed out.

Also, I don't want to debate other things; I just want to stick to gambling. To be honest, in religious debates, there is no absolute right or wrong, as both sides always want to be right.

Now you understand the motive behind the headline. Religious argument is unhealthy especially in a platform like this but tbh your first comment sounds like a mockery to a certain religion by saying halal pork. However, there are some scholars who like to deviate from general public and their gullible followers will blindly follow them else gambling can not be polish in whatever way to make it halal. I am also a gambler by the way.

Sorry if you feel like I'm mocking but I'm not.

What I'd like to point out is this: if they can reinterpret gambling as halal or permissible in English, even though it was originally preached as forbidden, then the same logic should apply to eating pork, shouldn't it? There shouldn't be any exceptions or attempts to deviate from the teachings. I'm not certain, but I'd like to conclude my opinion here.

[ethereumhunter]

We admit we are gamblers but never dare to bring up the name of a particular religion in order to justify wrong actions, because religious matters are not a realm that can be toyed with arbitrarily.

It is true. I don't know what the agenda of the video is because the content and title don't match, but I may be wrong in this matter.

We know Islam prohibits gambling. But many Muslims play gambling and they don't think about halal or haram. And it seems that the speaker also did not say clearly what a halal casino is and I think there is another intention behind the video. If we already know that gambling is haram, we don't need to gamble and even stay away from it. But if we don't think about halal or haram, it will be up to each person how best to do it.

Sometimes, we as the audience, cannot take something from what the speaker is saying because maybe what the speaker said is too difficult for the average person to understand. This is where the audience misunderstood while the speaker did not provide clarification.

[Outhue]

Muslim brothers where are you?   I thought gambling is a sin, how come this is happening or this is fake? Some lives will be made through this casino and some will be ruined. That aside, OP you are promoting Roobet, that's one of the best casinos out there, why do you feel you need to try this halal casino out?

I think this video is simply telling people to intentionally commit sin since Allah is a forgiver and because we are all human we shouldn't blame anyone, I understand that no one can be perfect but I feel this is wrong, there are many crazy people in suits and the only thing keeping them from showing their craziness is word of God, now I can't imagine if this gets out in the public, it's likely going to encourage people into doing things that are sinful all because no one is perfect.

[mindrust]

I don't think gambling is halal in Islam. I am no authority but it is just common sense. Interest is no good for example and gambling is way worse than interest. However, anybody can say that it is halal to gamble and establish "halal casinos" and probably nobody is going to stop them unless they live in SA. It is probably better to leave religions out of gambling because it will make things pretty messy pretty quickly. Gambling itself is not the cleanest business in the world and mixing it with religion will only make the matters even worse. Remember we are here to make money, not to make our lives worse.

[iv4n]

Well, I stopped watching after 1st minute... this is not for me. Maybe some religious people have some inner confrontation about their gambling habits and they need some "clarification" from their religious representatives, but not me. I am okay with my gambling habits.

Also, I don't want to debate other things; I just want to stick to gambling. To be honest, in religious debates, there is no absolute right or wrong, as both sides always want to be right.

Same here... Let's just stick to gambling.

[Kakmakr]

I do not think this is in any way related to gambling, but rather a subtle way to spread information about the Muslim religion and how they should practice their religion.

The Muslim religion does not allow their followers to gamble, so those people should not even hang out in a gambling section of this forum. If they need answers, they must go find it in their Quran or their religious leaders.   

Let's just talk about gambling here... 

[Juse14]

I like to play gambling and I am a Muslim. And for whatever reason there is no such thing as sharia gambling, there is no lawful gambling "whatever the reason, gambling is still illegal"

And this is a legal stipulation that cannot be changed, this is a religious order and this rule has been stipulated in God's word. I realized that what I was doing was "gambling" which was wrong and prohibited by religion. However, I like gambling for entertainment and I also cannot justify what I have done because the provisions are clearly "haram"

Gambling is about likes and dislikes, because the sin is borne by oneself.

[Stable090]

Maybe the one running that casino just want to convince muslims to gamble to their casino for profit and they use the halal word so that they can convince muslim that they are safe to commit sin for playing on their casino. Also for those who follow the teaching of Islam will not risk to exchange their faith just to gamble and have short time glory with this casino.

Maybe you don’t really understand what he is saying, he isn’t saying gambling is hala or he isn’t encouraging anyone to gamble, in Islam, gambling is haram, and all Muslims know that. But what he is trying to say is that since gambling is haram in Islam, if you are a gambler, which all Muslims know is haram, that doesn't mean you should keep on doing other things that are also haram in Islam. You should try and stop the gambling, and you shouldn’t think about doing other things that are haram in Islam, you shouldn’t increase the sin that you are committing.

[Ulven]

At first, I believe this topic deserves discussion, so you can move the topic to the discussion section. Honestly, the subject of the prohibition of gambling in Islamic religion has become complicated for me. There is a verse in the Quran summarizing the matter as impurity and Satan's handiwork, but religious scholars' interpretations of this verse differ. They say it's forbidden, contrary to some modernists who claim it's not forbidden but one should avoid the consequences of gambling, like theft and committing crimes. Here's a clip of Mohammad Shahrour explaining that.
https://youtu.be/qvUYG2w62Jc?si=utO71oQi-GS8iFs0

[Porfirii]

I'm not muslim either, and I won't talk about the video because other members have already agreed that it doesn't talk about the topic it was supposed to talk.

About the topic, I think that it is difficult to generalise because we are talking about a religion that is open to multiple interpretations (which not?), even if it is classically clear that gambling is harem. I know a few muslims and most of them openly drink and gamble from time to time, but still pray and try to follow the guidances of the Quran; this is unconceivable in other countries, that's why I say it is difficult to generalise.

About the concept of Halal Casino itself, it reminds me when we started reading articles that tried to explain if Bitcoin could be considered halal or not. My personal point of view (while I'm very ignorant in the matter) is that cryptos could be considered halal depending on how they are used, and a casino could be halal too if there is no usury nor lust of wealth attached to it; but, could we still call it "casino" if we remove those "peculiarities"? That's what I wish I had seen in the proposed video.

[coin-investor]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

I'm not a Muslim but I have learned something from his explanation not because you are doing something that is bad you will stop doing something good that you have been doing, his explanation is very clear and backed by logic, it just justifies that because I'm gambling in a casino I should stop praying I still can pray because I feel good doing this and strengthen my belief in my faith.

We should have perspective in gambling, if we are playing just for fun, we just want to be entertained and play within our means we should not think badly about ourselves and be concerned about the judgment of people.

[ScamViruS]

This video is completely different from the video title, they gave this title with a question mark to get more views. I am not Muslim so I have no problem with gambling, but I have many Muslim friends so I know very well that gambling is forbidden for Muslims.

So there is no point in asking such questions here, Muslims who follow all the ideals of their religion never gamble, which I have seen in some of my friends. And this mufti does not call gambling halal, you should watch the video again.

[Coin_trader]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

I really suggest to include a summary of the video you provides since that’s the ky to understand easily what you are to trying to emphasize on the title.

The video contains a very insightful teaching and I appreciate it well even if I’m not muslim. I was confused on the title at first then I understand what you are trying to share here by watching the video. The concept of halal casino is unorthodox yet it has a point. Being a sinner and doing more sin makes you put on an infinite loop of doing more sins. The idea of having Halal casino will makes muslim that sinning in the casino have a chance to avoid more sin by following the law on halal foods. Interesting topic.

It’s just very hard to spot one since business owner doesn’t expect much Muslim players or it might be view negatively since it might encourage some Muslim to gamble due this feature.

[Stedsm]

The title itself is wrong for the video because he was discussing about people's current state of mentality and saying that while looking at the negative side of a person, we should not ignore his positive side and talk about his negatives in front of him as doing so will encourage him to go far more away from Lord and involve himself into wrong deeds. However, if we speak about the title here, the casino and gambling part was just an example discussed and had nothing to do with his speech overall. And yeah, if you are a Muslim (or not) and you gamble, but you forget to pray to Lord during the times you're expected to practice, then giving such excuse that you weren't able to do that because you lost your time gambling is unacceptable, that's what he's trying to convey through his message.

[jcojci]

I don't want to talk about religion because it is crucial. Now, we think logically and don't involve any religion because it depends on how we interpret it.

Playing gambling gives pleasure. We hope to get this pleasure by gambling and do not want us to forget to do other things that we have to do. But what happens is when we have had that pleasure, we still want to keep getting it and in the end we play gambling for a very long time and use more money.

The average person will play gambling for a long time and if they have other activities, they may forget about it because of the fun factor. And again, if we use a lot of money, it can disrupt our financial position where when we lose and deposit more money, we use the allocation of funds that are elsewhere and that will disrupt our financial position.

While gambling, we can forget the time and money we have used. In fact, if we can manage our time, we can do other activities and also use the money for our living needs, such as buying food or making ends meet. So we should be able to think whether gambling is good or bad for us. For halal or haram issues, it will depend on the judgment of each but Islam prohibits gambling.

[Fortify]

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

No, quite simply. Gambling is not permitted in any form that anyone here would recognize. Unless they are somehow twisting the definition of a casino to match whatever profit motives they are hoping to produce from this setup. He would not be the first or last person who is trying to manipulate a religious following in order to squeeze some money out of them. I highly doubt that he is genuinely behind this, or at the very least he has engineered enough support around the top of the government of the country to get away with such things - because there is no doubt that he will be looked down upon by other muslim majority countries. He is basically doing this out of greed, if it genuinely is him behind it.

[Cadaver20]

This video is very necessary for Muslims. Because it will create a new concept about casino among them. Because Islam does not support gambling. However, not only this video, but more detailed study is required to know the Muslim religious opinion about gambling. Local religious leaders can be discussed if necessary.

[aioc]

I'm not a Muslim and what he taught about his concept is for Muslim followers,  since I'm a Christian I prefer to follow what my religion taught me, but like all the first who posted on this thread I thought its a casino made for Muslim only but it's more on the idea and belief, not an actual casino where Muslim can play.
The title is quite misleading there is a better title that OP can choose and it can still generate discussion, its hard to talk about gambling in religion perspective because we all have different views when it comes to religion.

[Gozie51]

Yes, I watched the whole video and found that the title of this video plus the thumbnail in this video does not match the content presented in the video. This is more like a clickbait title/thumbnail and there is no talk about the legit casino in this video.

Yes, maybe people immediately catch what is seen from the title that contains clickbait and are provoked by it, so they draw conclusions and immediately comment outside the actual context of the video, actually in Islam it teaches good things so always remember worship, even if you are a gambler or criminals, it's good that worship should never be abandoned because that way it will make people lose their way and make themselves worse.

Any worship will prevent us from doing something other evil in the future, maybe that's what is meant and captured from this video, acting as good people will help us become better later, therefore I can't comment much about this video before watching it's finished videos properly.

I think that is pretty much about the video, despite the inclination about gambling for the muslim faith and infact most other religions regarding to gambling but to keep the worship or prayers going on. I believe if you drop the prayer and followship because you are doing a particular sin it will lead you into deeper sins that coming out will be a longer process, that is what I understand in the video but on the other hand I'm thinking that is a subtle way to give approval to gambling by the muslim faith and not to judge or condemn theirselves yet.

[topbitcoin]

Just tickled and made me laugh out loud when I read the thread about the concept of a halal casino. I like gambling, but I also don't have the courage to justify my actions from a religious point of view, that the activities I do are right and lawful. still religiously gambling is an act that is wrong and unlawful.

After all, when talking about a scholar they have many followers, so he must consider everything when he wants to express an opinion, because this does not only affect himself but also his followers. and I really regret that there is a scholar who put forward the concept of a halal casino, which in its provisions is clearly unlawful and cannot be contested.

[robelneo]

What I understand in the explanation of Mufti Menk is if you are in a place that is considered Haram (forbidden or proscribed by Islamic law) it means that you can still do something that is Halal (lawful or permitted) you can eat food that is halal or do your thing in accordance to Muslim laws.

This concept is for our Muslim brothers but for us Christians, there are some sects that support gambling and some are not, and our Muslims have one law that they follow when it comes to haram and halal, but at the end of the day, everything are all about respect to one's religious belief when it comes to gambling.

[Gozie51]

This concept is for our Muslim brothers but for us Christians, there are some sects that support gambling and some are not, and our Muslims have one law that they follow when it comes to haram and halal, but at the end of the day, everything are all about respect to one's religious belief when it comes to gambling.

Despite the individual decisions towards gambling which may be traced to economic situation for those who believe that they can add gambling as a source of income to meet up to family needs but I don't think the christians has a sect of the religion that also support gambling. At least I have not heard of a pastor preaching and advising their converts at the pupit to gamble. What I have heard is their condemnation of it using the example at the synagogue where Jesus Christ threw the gambling materials away and the gamblers were scolded.

[YOSHIE]

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

As far as I know Jews, Christians and Muslims have a Bible about gambling, basically gambling is forbidden for them, that's as far as I know what I've read and seen, so what was conveyed by YouTube Mufti Menk, that is my assessment only as his opinion, of course there are many comments that I have read regarding the responses he conveyed about the Halal Casino Concept.

Maybe, at this time we have to think wisely, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are divided into several groups, so we have to really understand Mufti Menk, whether he is a genuine Muslim or a group Islam, if he was real muslim i'm sure he would be embarrassed to say all that, but gambling is still gambling, haram and halal it all depends on how they think, nowadays i think islam is quite enthusiastic about online gambling, that's a fact, even though their fatwa forbids it.

[Beparanf]

This video is very necessary for Muslims. Because it will create a new concept about casino among them. Because Islam does not support gambling. However, not only this video, but more detailed study is required to know the Muslim religious opinion about gambling. Local religious leaders can be discussed if necessary.

The video doesn’t show any support on a casino nor Muslim doing gambling. It discuss only the importance of being Halal even inside the casino so that sinners will not commit more mistakes but it doesn’t support casino or condoning gambling as being good. Muslim religious leader opinion towards gambling will never change since it's their religious law.

[Dickiy]

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

From my point of view, thumbnails clearly combine 2 conflicting elements. Because he was the first to associate gambling with religious symbols. In Islam itself, gambling is ultimately prohibited and the law is final and cannot be tolerated anymore. Any kind of anything related to gambling is illegal.
Now, interestingly, in this video there is no translation feature into another language because it is turned off, so it is limited to understanding the content conveyed by Mufti Menk. But if we look in the comments column, we find positive feedback, so my view is reminded of the saying: never judge other people from the outside, but see what they have to say. this sentence applies to the video so we found no explanation at all about gambling.

[Haunebu]

Why the heck would any person with a brain associate gambling with religion? It's nonsensical in so many ways. Gambling brings together people from across the world regardless of their religion, caste, sex etc.

Crypto gambling sites take it one step further by trying to allow them to gamble anonymously without outside interference to some extent which has been getting tougher and tougher recently.

This is why I and many other love the world of gambling. Think!

[salad daging]

Unfortunately, the content didn't have a language translator, so I didn't understand all of the content.

I will not comment more because it is clear that the Islamic religion strictly prohibits gambling this is a commandment from God, back to each one in his perception when you know this is haram then stop gambling, I am the same gambling is haram will not deny it.

Stick to your own choices, I know what to do. Have fun 

[klidex]

It looks like clickbait and when I saw this video it actually has nothing to do with Halal gambling but the video is just giving advice about something bad but don't forget about doing good.
I am a Muslim and I am also a gambler even though my religion prohibits gambling or it is considered a sin I still do it even though it looks bad it violates the rules in my religion the most important thing is that my thoughts do not harm other people and also I don't forget to do good to others or give alms to people the less able.
Sin or not, my gambling activity is only Allah who judges and my duty is to do according to destiny, which I have to do well and also help others and also sometimes when I get a win from gambling I buy food which I distribute to neighbors who are underprivileged and even though they are famous. as a gambler but it is my obligation to continue to do good without harming others.

[bittraffic]

It looks like clickbait and when I saw this video it actually has nothing to do with Halal gambling but the video is just giving advice about something bad but don't forget about doing good.
I am a Muslim and I am also a gambler even though my religion prohibits gambling or it is considered a sin I still do it even though it looks bad it violates the rules in my religion the most important thing is that my thoughts do not harm other people and also I don't forget to do good to others or give alms to people the less able.
Sin or not, my gambling activity is only Allah who judges and my duty is to do according to destiny, which I have to do well and also help others and also sometimes when I get a win from gambling I buy food which I distribute to neighbors who are underprivileged and even though they are famous. as a gambler but it is my obligation to continue to do good without harming others.

Basically, he meant that Muslims shouldn't go to casinos all because they have a room for Muslims to pray. It doesn't mean that a casino with a room for Muslims to pray means this casino is a Halal Casino. One Muslim going to a casino is already a sin, and when you gamble that's another sin.

Sometimes they don't feed it like they are explaining it to a kid in order for a man to understand. Listeners sometimes just have to take the hint.

[Hispo]

It looks like clickbait and when I saw this video it actually has nothing to do with Halal gambling but the video is just giving advice about something bad but don't forget about doing good.
I am a Muslim and I am also a gambler even though my religion prohibits gambling or it is considered a sin I still do it even though it looks bad it violates the rules in my religion the most important thing is that my thoughts do not harm other people and also I don't forget to do good to others or give alms to people the less able.
Sin or not, my gambling activity is only Allah who judges and my duty is to do according to destiny, which I have to do well and also help others and also sometimes when I get a win from gambling I buy food which I distribute to neighbors who are underprivileged and even though they are famous. as a gambler but it is my obligation to continue to do good without harming others.

I am curious. You are the first person I have read around here who claims to be a muslin and yet admits to gamble.
I thought that within the Islamic world and nations gambling was not frown upon but also punished by family members or religious authorities themselves. Does it depend on the country you live in?

Because I have seen news through the years about places like Iran, when consuming alcohol and doing other haram actions can lead to sentences of physical punishment in front of the rest of the community. how does it actually work? Are you supposed to gamble in secret?

[tusandii]

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Basically, he meant that Muslims shouldn't go to casinos all because they have a room for Muslims to pray. It doesn't mean that a casino with a room for Muslims to pray means this casino is a Halal Casino. One Muslim going to a casino is already a sin, and when you gamble that's another sin.

Sometimes they don't feed it like they are explaining it to a kid in order for a man to understand. Listeners sometimes just have to take the hint.

There is no connection between prayer services and casinos that are lawful because they have space to pray because in Islam gambling in any form is a sin and is clearly prohibited, there is no teaching in any religion that gives permission to gamble.
Islam is one of the religions with quite strict prohibitions, even in Islam every action has accountability that must be faced by every Muslim.

To be honest, I still don't really understand the meaning or essence of this thread, even though I have watched the videos, but I have not found a clear understanding of the true meaning of the concept of halal casinos.

[acroman08]

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

a casino with a prayer area and Halal food is still not Halal. The only way a gambling casino can become Halal for Muslims is if when the religion stops considering gambling as a sin. In the end, he is just making an excuse for a person to consciously commit a sin. A casino with a prayer area and Halal food does not make a casino Halal but it is quite considerate of them to have those things in a casino to accommodate their Muslim gamblers.

[Wiwo]

To be honest, I thought the video was about an Islamic casino or a casino that allows Muslims to gamble because I have seen so many of his videos on other topics and also some short clips from TikTok and his teachings are always good to listen to.

And to see his picture on a casino post really got my attention. Although his post didn’t ponder entirely on casino but I still got something from it, like we shouldn’t discourage one from doing something good even if all they have been doing in their life has been evil. And since gambling is haram we shouldn’t discourage those that partake in it to not doing other holy things because we are all human and we can change for the better and that little good they did could be the catalyst for it.

I agree with you because my first suspense was to see the first Islamic casino since the religion drawn so much on gambling,  but hey this is highly educative since it deals with how individuals deal with their perception and judgment of other,  the speaker was right anyways and this will also lower the so much discrimination against gambling without actually taking time to know it advantage and weaknesses.

The video entirely spoke in line with what my local priest told me in the church today that we should not be too judgemental of people while speaking to them about moralities,  a lot of religious outreach doesn't reach some casinos in my area and sometimes they bypass it deliberately writing them off not knowing that humans are always weak.

[darkangel11]

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

a casino with a prayer area and Halal food is still not Halal. The only way a gambling casino can become Halal for Muslims is if when the religion stops considering gambling as a sin. In the end, he is just making an excuse for a person to consciously commit a sin. A casino with a prayer area and Halal food does not make a casino Halal but it is quite considerate of them to have those things in a casino to accommodate their Muslim gamblers.

He does make a point though. You say that the only way for it to be allowed is if the religion considers it legal, but can you really call yourself a religious person if you obey all the rules of that religion but one?
Imagine that you've been a believer all your life and then your church comes up with a nonsense rule that you wouldn't obey, but now you have a dilemma if you should go against that rule and ignore it, obey it, or leave the church completely because you don't like the new rule.

I'm not Muslim and I don't follow these rules, but many people consider themselves Christian, even though they don't follow all the rules of the church. For example, I know many people who aren't married but live together. This is a sin according to the church, but they keep doing it. Many people are only 90% religious and there's something that they do against the rules.

[GxSTxV]

Just like many users here got tricked by the title, I really thought it’s a new Halal Casino or the video you shared was talking about it but no it’s totally a different thing and that Sheikh is only talking moe about islam rules which says that in our religion if you do sin and in our example gambling or even walking into a casino doesn’t mean you are not a muslim or you should stop praying for example. Casinos and gambling are very known things to be Haram in islam so if someone gamble he is doing a sin and he will get punished for that, but doesn’t mean he is considered as a Kafir.
But for a Halal casino i don’t think it’s possible to realize. As this two things are so different since to consider a casino we should involve risking and gambling which something forbidden in Islam and can never be halal.

[CarnagexD]

It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

Yea if we look at the title alone we could say that they are misleading the public base on there belief but going through the entire video the speaker is actually making some points and it’s not encouraging gambling but rather he is advising those Muslim who already found them self in the means of gambling to not use that as an excuse of not praying because of the surrounding that they finds their self that doing that could be seen as a double sin, anyone who see any Muslim in the means of gambling should not also stop them from praying that they should allow them pray, that everything is done one step at at time, with them doing a little of good thing and praying always that they will have better chances of realizing that they are committing a great sin and are likely to change and come out of the sin over time, But discouraging them and calling them siners won’t help the matter at all, he also gave an instance of those who see people who dress half native that it’s better to advise them to dress decently than telling them to completely remove the cloth since they choose to be naked. I finds his teachings educative rather than weird.

Yes, it is quite misleading and worse could spread misinformation if not read the article fully or even watched the video. Of course, clashing with your cultural or religious beliefs will be difficult. It not only gave you an obligation to change and do the right thing but also to give up what you are doing the wrong thing.

Will you give up your beief instead to gamble? or you'll give up gambling and change and stick with your truth and belief? There is no right and wrong answer because we have different values from different backgrounds. But what I know is living against your moral values is not easy.

[acroman08]

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

a casino with a prayer area and Halal food is still not Halal. The only way a gambling casino can become Halal for Muslims is if when the religion stops considering gambling as a sin. In the end, he is just making an excuse for a person to consciously commit a sin. A casino with a prayer area and Halal food does not make a casino Halal but it is quite considerate of them to have those things in a casino to accommodate their Muslim gamblers.

He does make a point though. You say that the only way for it to be allowed is if the religion considers it legal, but can you really call yourself a religious person if you obey all the rules of that religion but one?
Imagine that you've been a believer all your life and then your church comes up with a nonsense rule that you wouldn't obey, but now you have a dilemma if you should go against that rule and ignore it, obey it, or leave the church completely because you don't like the new rule.

I'M not Muslim and I don't follow these rules, but many people consider themselves Christian, even though they don't follow all the rules of the church. For example, I know many people who aren't married but live together. This is a sin according to the church, but they keep doing it. Many people are only 90% religious and there's something that they do against the rules.

I never said that you need to follow all of the rules that religion has. yeah, sure he has a point about not encouraging people to commit more sins after committing one, but his point also encourages people to commit a sin, That is why I said, In the end he is making an excuse for people to consciously commit a sin.

[rahmad2nd]

It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

Yea if we look at the title alone we could say that they are misleading the public base on there belief but going through the entire video the speaker is actually making some points and it’s not encouraging gambling but rather he is advising those Muslim who already found them self in the means of gambling to not use that as an excuse of not praying because of the surrounding that they finds their self that doing that could be seen as a double sin, anyone who see any Muslim in the means of gambling should not also stop them from praying that they should allow them pray, that everything is done one step at at time, with them doing a little of good thing and praying always that they will have better chances of realizing that they are committing a great sin and are likely to change and come out of the sin over time, But discouraging them and calling them siners won’t help the matter at all, he also gave an instance of those who see people who dress half native that it’s better to advise them to dress decently than telling them to completely remove the cloth since they choose to be naked. I finds his teachings educative rather than weird.

Yes, I watched the whole video and found that the title of this video plus the thumbnail in this video does not match the content presented in the video. This is more like a clickbait title/thumbnail and there is no talk about the legit casino in this video.

The speakers say that if you are doing one bad thing, that should not force you to do many bad things. Rather he is of the point of view that one bad deed should not stop you from doing other good deeds and when you keep on doing good deeds, you will automatically be refrain from doing the bad deeds which you were doing. That's the whole concept that is being explained there.

Which means, it has nothing to do with the theme of the title of this thread isn't it. to be honest, I didn't try to watch the video shared by the OP. because I suspect that the title of this video is just clickbait. that's why, I have no interest in opening it or watching it. because after all, there is no Halal Casino. "referring to references from religion".

Referring to what you said, it seems that the content of the video content actually leads to something that is good in nature. it's just that, it's packed with titles and thumbnails like the screenshot the OP is showing. no problem with that, i think it's fine. but if we discuss about halal casinos. it seems, will only be a debate and will not be endless. the point is, in today's modern era we can use our intellect to examine anything, including the theme of our discussion in this thread.
that's why, it's not good if gambling is associated with religion or belief. because discussions like this, will always end in contradiction. the point is, let's just enjoy it if we really like gambling, especially in the context of entertainment, reflection, relaxation and the like. but if the opposite, stay away and leave. for me, it's that simple.

[BitcoinPanther]

I got what the video wanted to say, he is just stating that it is better to commit one mistake than commit two.  But isn't it hypocrisy when we tend to accept someone to commit a sin and then symphatise with the guys committing the sin because he also follow other belief that convenience him?

A casino that serves Halal Foods and have place for Muslim prayer  is all a business concept for me.  And it is hypocritical that a place service people that made them sin and offer other services within that person's religion's belief.  This is like encouraging the Muslim people to sin telling that it is ok to gamble because they have Halal food and place for prayers.

[BenCodie]

There is a huge demographic that can be covered with this concept however, is it really halal? I highly doubt it, and I believe that a lot of people may just end up violating the rules of their religion if they were to participate in this casino. It's good marketing and a demographic that otherwise would not have been captured, will probably be captured by this if temptation allures them...Does that make the marketing/branding right? I don't think so.

[mirakal]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

I'm not a muslim but isn't gambling is haram for them? Its a grave sin to them so I don't think there's halal and not halal on that.

Maybe the one running that casino just want to convince muslims to gamble to their casino for profit and they use the halal word so that they can convince muslim that they are safe to commit sin for playing on their casino. Also for those who follow the teaching of Islam will not risk to exchange their faith just to gamble and have short time glory with this casino.

Probably that's the case here. If gambling is a sin for muslims, then I don't think it's allowed for them to create their own gambling platform. So most likely, the image of a muslim here is only being used as a model so that other muslims will also be attracted to gamble. But I don't think this will work as muslims are highly devoted to their religion, and once they start praising casinos, it's like they are putting their own religion and their own race at risk.

[serjent05]

I can't agree more with the reply that states a casino becomes a Halal Casino if the Muslim religions stop treating gambling as a sin.  No matter what other religious activity or belief the casino offers if the establishment itself is considered to be a sin then all these offers are nothing.  This is how the "wicked" twist facts and make people believe that it is okay to use the casino establishment and sin (Muslim belief that gambling is a sin) because they have the standard food for the Muslims and a house of prayer that can accommodate their praying sessions.  

[AmoreJaz]

I can't agree more with the reply that states a casino becomes a Halal Casino if the Muslim religions stop treating gambling as a sin.  No matter what other religious activity or belief the casino offers if the establishment itself is considered to be a sin then all these offers are nothing.  This is how the "wicked" twist facts and make people believe that it is okay to use the casino establishment and sin (Muslim belief that gambling is a sin) because they have the standard food for the Muslims and a house of prayer that can accommodate their praying sessions.  

now, it boils down to what they truly believe in life. halal or not. because it seems they are the ones who can truly identify the halal way of life. now, if they will just label a casino to be halal and play on it. then, it is like being a hypocrite of your own beliefs, right? just to get around about being labeled as non-halal.
at the end of the day they are the ones who can truly know what way of life is halal or not. so either they will live up to it or just making excuses so as not to label by their sins.

[PX-Z]

Probably that's the case here. If gambling is a sin for muslims, then I don't think it's allowed for them to create their own gambling platform.

Yet, some of them gambles, it is even noted that some casinos were built on country where the populations are mostly muslims. Like any other people they will do it regardless of the religion they have although its very risky since some or maybe all muslim (i dont know) countries do arrest muslim that gambles, or even just promoting it^[1].

[1] https://www.nst.com.my/news/crime-courts/2023/06/920865/370-muslim-women-kedah-arrested-promoting-online-gambling-2022

[Slow death]

religion should not be mixed with gambling, unfortunately in some countries the laws were implemented based on religion, and in those countries where there are laws based on religion, they look at women as inferior beings, they look at gambling as a sin , but these same people from these Muslim countries forget that the only one who can judge people is God (according to the bible and the quran if I'm not making a mistake ), so I ask myself: who gave power to someone to become one religious leader in these muslim countries and judging other people? was it god or allāh? then Allāh came and said: Mr X from now on will be my representative on earth

you can judge whoever you want, you can condemn whoever you want, write this down, and from now on it will be the law for everyone, man, let's be honest, who has concrete evidence of that? the answer is simple: no one has proof of anything that comes from religion. let's look at gambling, who created gambling? was it the devil? Do people who are Muslim and forbid gambling have evidence that gambling is impure? If gambling is impure, then the money that comes from oil and gold is also impure. It gets to be very ironic that these leaders of Muslim countries get very rich with the oil they sell to many countries and do not take the money to improve the lives of their people

They take the money to put in their pocket, they kill anyone in their country who goes against the leader, so I ask myself: do these leaders of Muslim countries have what morality to criticize something? unfortunately people are deceived, religion is just a means to manipulate and deceive people. it has nothing to do with gambling, as long as each person is responsible and has self-control, people should be free to choose what they want to do

[Renampun]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

...

Halal casinos will never be accepted and will never appear, that's all because influential Muslim leaders will prohibit any casino from using the halal label because as far as I know for Muslims gambling is haram because it contains usury and also the taking of other people's money unscrupulously.

I even found an article that said about how the scholars in Saudi Arabia balked at all forms of card games or competitions,

Baloot is a trick card game that is popular in the Gulf countries, especially in Saudi Arabia. The game bears similarities to the French card game Belote.

2018 was the first year that an official card game tournament was held in Saudi Arabia. The tournament was attended by around 12,000 people with a total prize pool of one million riyals for the four best teams.

In his opening speech, senior cleric Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani attended the event as a move by the Saudi government to quell criticism from conservatives who banned card and chess games even though they do not contain gambling. Gambling law in Saudi Arabia is illegal.

The article above shows that whenever the halal label will not be recognized if a casino uses it, if you are determined to use the halal label in a casino then the consequences will be big for the owner of the casino business.

[wiss19]

Did you not watch the video yourself before posting it here? Because if you do, he explains everything very clearly, and at no point in the video, he says anything about a halal casino. What he talked about in the video about casinos was that there are some regions where you can get halal food and even praying places inside the casinos, so some people say that when you are gambling, you are already sinful so you shouldn't care about halal food or praying as well.

So he explains that it is a very wrong concept where a person thinks that if he is committing one sin, he should commit other sins too but one should at least try to reduce the sins they are committing. So even if a person is gambling, he should eat food that is haram or should skip his prayers.

[ethereumhunter]

Did you not watch the video yourself before posting it here? Because if you do, he explains everything very clearly, and at no point in the video, he says anything about a halal casino. What he talked about in the video about casinos was that there are some regions where you can get halal food and even praying places inside the casinos, so some people say that when you are gambling, you are already sinful so you shouldn't care about halal food or praying as well.

So he explains that it is a very wrong concept where a person thinks that if he is committing one sin, he should commit other sins too but one should at least try to reduce the sins they are committing. So even if a person is gambling, he should eat food that is haram or should skip his prayers.

And because he has done something haram, it doesn't mean he can't do something halal. He has to do many halal things to do less haram. It takes time until eventually he can get enlightenment from God, who can make him aware of halal and haram. He can also understand that what he has been doing until now is still doing many things that are haram, so he has to stop doing what is haram and start doing halal things. And that is an effort to reduce the sins he has committed.

[Webetcoins]

Ridiculous, gambling is obviously haram, even a conventional bank which only give interest rate from their operational income are considered as haram too. The only way gambling is halal in Islam is you're not put anything to bet, but you're play the game or make a guess with your opponent. But we've discuss it before where gambling without risking anything isn't a gambling.

Maybe in your jurisdiction only or in your religion, but to the most part, it was Halal or legal. The main aim of gambling is only to provide a unique entertainment experience and the real money (bets) placed by us can only be considered as service fee. There is nothing wrong with that. Also a gambling company can comply to the law or the government by paying a tax and follow their other orders like implementing a KYC. It's just that many people losses their control and starts to gamble inappropriately.

This why some thinks that gambling is bad and should be avoided at all cost. Banks on the other hand are I think also not Haram. Their main aim is for storing money only, and not a form of investment. No wonder why the returns given by them are only small but it's better than nothing. At least they are still generous to give something.

[tjtonmoy]

This is nor a concept of hala casino. I mean, if things that are there are halal, that does not mean that gambling there should be halal too. He's just pointing out that even if a person is bad, there's still good in him. If we focus only on the bad things and treat him based on that, he will most likely give up on the good things too. That's way too dangerous.
This also doesn't mean that as a Muslim you should start gambling and think that one day you will get rid of it and ask for mercy from Allah. Doing something bad knowing it's bad will create more sims that doing it unknowingly. And if someone is doing a bad thing while also doing some good things, we should focus on their good things and encourage them on that.

But don't entirely support their bad deeds, either. Ask them time to time for them to leave those bad things.

[paxmao]

Ridiculous, gambling is obviously haram, even a conventional bank which only give interest rate from their operational income are considered as haram too. The only way gambling is halal in Islam is you're not put anything to bet, but you're play the game or make a guess with your opponent. But we've discuss it before where gambling without risking anything isn't a gambling.

Maybe in your jurisdiction only or in your religion, but to the most part, it was Halal or legal. The main aim of gambling is only to provide a unique entertainment experience and the real money (bets) placed by us can only be considered as service fee. There is nothing wrong with that. Also a gambling company can comply to the law or the government by paying a tax and follow their other orders like implementing a KYC. It's just that many people losses their control and starts to gamble inappropriately.

This why some thinks that gambling is bad and should be avoided at all cost. Banks on the other hand are I think also not Haram. Their main aim is for storing money only, and not a form of investment. No wonder why the returns given by them are only small but it's better than nothing. At least they are still generous to give something.

Gambling is seen as a no-no in most religions, as it can be seen as an ungodly entertainment, tempting the gods and for Monotheistic religions, well... it is just too much fun and fun takes you apart from fear including fear of death and fear of God so it is never going to be looked in a good light. However it has been rarely prohibited ever, so I guess not halal, not haram, a sin yes, but a minor one.

[TimeTeller]

Did you not watch the video yourself before posting it here? Because if you do, he explains everything very clearly, and at no point in the video, he says anything about a halal casino. What he talked about in the video about casinos was that there are some regions where you can get halal food and even praying places inside the casinos, so some people say that when you are gambling, you are already sinful so you shouldn't care about halal food or praying as well.

So he explains that it is a very wrong concept where a person thinks that if he is committing one sin, he should commit other sins too but one should at least try to reduce the sins they are committing. So even if a person is gambling, he should eat food that is haram or should skip his prayers.

Maybe people are saying different things here because the title of the OP is misleading if they haven't watched the video itself.
When it comes to this practice, it entirely depends on the person if he believes on this concept or not, or if he wants to live up to this belief.
If he wants to be loyal to his religion, he will do things that he thinks is necessary to reduce the supposedly "sins" he will commit upon entering a casino.
Just like mentioned, at least eat food that is halal or pray. Whatever he chooses, depends on the person himself as you can't enforce such practice to any Muslim or person. Respect is needed and the important thing is you don't step on anyone's toes.

[macson]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

The title of this topic really makes me a little amused, if we want to change halal or haram according to Muslim beliefs then we have to go back to the past, haha... anyway we have to respect those who adhere to the Muslim religion, for them gambling will always be haram ^{(never halal)} and the target market for gambling is not Muslims but those who really have a big interest in gambling, especially in countries where gambling is legal, therefore i do not agree with imposing halal concepts or labels on casinos.

[lionheart78]

Since Halal is all about dietary law derived from Islamic teaching[1], it is possible to have a concept of a Halal Casino even though a Casino is a place considered to be haram.  A discussion of a haram place (casino) to be halal is all about the food served in that place.  It is feasible and realistic that a casino can serve Halal-approved foods since eating has no relation to gambling activities.  So as the video is saying, gambling is one sin, and eating non-Halal-approved food is another sin. Serving Muslim gamblers with halal food in a casino prevents them from committing another sin. Although this is all about business,  committing one sin sounds much better than committing 2 sins but all in all it is much better if there is no sin committed and Muslims should follow their Islamic teaching and avoid gambling places.

[1] https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/what-is-halal

[TastyChillySauce00]

The title of this topic really makes me a little amused, if we want to change halal or haram according to Muslim beliefs then we have to go back to the past, haha... anyway we have to respect those who adhere to the Muslim religion, for them gambling will always be haram ^{(never halal)} and the target market for gambling is not Muslims but those who really have a big interest in gambling, especially in countries where gambling is legal, therefore i do not agree with imposing halal concepts or labels on casinos.

It's really sensitive topic. This topic has a very strong relationship to the muslim. AFAIK everything related to the casino was not allowed in the islamic religion. We shall just stay away from discussing this topic as it will be a never ending discussion discussing about something that doesn't allowed in their religions but keep forcing to allow everything based on their personal idealism. The only thing that i know if casino will never be allowed for muslim.

The video was only discussing about another thing. It seems like that the title was misleading people. It's pretty much like a click bait strategy by the creator of video.

[Rabata]

I have not been able to watch the entire video but from what I know gambling is prohibited for those who are Muslims. If there is a scholar who says that gambling is halal, I don't know how logical it is. However, the video may not directly mention gambling as halal. Even no Muslim calls it halal. If someone tries to call it halal then it will make a big difference with the thought. Since it is a matter of religion, one should not comment on any subject directly without knowing it. But as far as I know it will never be halal for Muslims.

[so98nn]

I dont understand this at all. So if I am going into the market and buying something with my money and getting back something of the same value is also a crime or something? Why is that not a non halal thing? Why is gambling your money is non halal now? So how do you make it halal? By spending money but not getting back anything.

I don't want to make any comment on the concept because it is way confusing than understand how black hole exists or how e=mc2 works! If in your religion it is not allowed to gamble with your money then there is no way you can gamble it. You can not just come up with an idea of halal casino just to make sure that you can play on that casino by keeping your purity or whatever you call it in your religion.

It's either allowed or it's not allowed! There is no middle way, otherwise this is not the culture that was made thousands or millions of years ago.

[arwin100]

The title of this topic really makes me a little amused, if we want to change halal or haram according to Muslim beliefs then we have to go back to the past, haha... anyway we have to respect those who adhere to the Muslim religion, for them gambling will always be haram ^{(never halal)} and the target market for gambling is not Muslims but those who really have a big interest in gambling, especially in countries where gambling is legal, therefore i do not agree with imposing halal concepts or labels on casinos.

It's really sensitive topic. This topic has a very strong relationship to the muslim. AFAIK everything related to the casino was not allowed in the islamic religion. We shall just stay away from discussing this topic as it will be a never ending discussion discussing about something that doesn't allowed in their religions but keep forcing to allow everything based on their personal idealism. The only thing that i know if casino will never be allowed for muslim.

The video was only discussing about another thing. It seems like that the title was misleading people. It's pretty much like a click bait strategy by the creator of video.

Maybe they want to insert the idea about possible betting in halal way but if you think about it more deeply its still betting so there's no way that it will be good in any form since gambling still a sin on Islam religion. I know many muslim doesn't follow this order and hide their activity to their relative but for clearly exposing this activity much better if they will not participate on any of it in public to avoid any trouble since for sure their are extreme followers criticize them for this activities.

[Nothingtodo]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

All forms of gambling and casino are totally prohibited by the Quran and Sunnah and termed as haram acts. But here the statement made by a mufti on halal casino is undoubtedly dismissive. Because according to Islamic law, gambling and casino can never be legal in the life of Muslims. Many people in the world may say many things or issue proclamations but Muslims will never accept Fatwa against Quran and Hadith.

[Hispo]

I dont understand this at all. So if I am going into the market and buying something with my money and getting back something of the same value is also a crime or something? Why is that not a non halal thing? Why is gambling your money is non halal now? So how do you make it halal? By spending money but not getting back anything.

I don't want to make any comment on the concept because it is way confusing than understand how black hole exists or how e=mc2 works! If in your religion it is not allowed to gamble with your money then there is no way you can gamble it. You can not just come up with an idea of halal casino just to make sure that you can play on that casino by keeping your purity or whatever you call it in your religion.

It's either allowed or it's not allowed! There is no middle way, otherwise this is not the culture that was made thousands or millions of years ago.

Within the Islamic community, there has been some movements towards finding ways to practice things which were not possible in previous centuries, Halal banking is a good example of it.

Muslims cannot charge for interest, but they managed to start banks and instead apply interest to their clients for loans, they simply call it with s different name like "fees for service* and does not apply in a percentage. So they can do banking and not be haram.

I would not be surprised if some of them are trying to apply the same principle to casinos somewhere, do they can glamble and still not to commit a sin in the eyes of Allah.

[Reatim]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

All forms of gambling and casino are totally prohibited by the Quran and Sunnah and termed as haram acts. But here the statement made by a mufti on halal casino is undoubtedly dismissive. Because according to Islamic law, gambling and casino can never be legal in the life of Muslims. Many people in the world may say many things or issue proclamations but Muslims will never accept Fatwa against Quran and Hadith.

I believe that you are also Muslim as it is obvious in how you commented this one and truly I respect that mate , because for me in some sense , I wanted also gambling to be prohibited as nowadays gambling is not a source of happiness but of Money and risk.
in which becoming addiction for many people.
respect all muslim actually .

[piebeyb]

I believe that you are also Muslim as it is obvious in how you commented this one and truly I respect that mate , because for me in some sense , I wanted also gambling to be prohibited as nowadays gambling is not a source of happiness but of Money and risk.
in which becoming addiction for many people.
respect all muslim actually .

Yes, I think we also need to respect other Muslim friends, after all, this video doesn't actually reveal anything about halal gambling, but only an explanation while the title is just click bait, I think we understand now that gambling is strictly prohibited by Muslims, so why share something that is prohibited in their religion, gambling and religion should be separated in this forum.

To be honest, religion and gambling in this forum are not worth discussing because I know that the two are contradictory and conflicting, I also have a friend who is a devout Muslim, that is why I have never asked him to gamble because he knows that gambling is strictly prohibited by his religion. I didn't watch this video until it's finished but it really seems like we have to respect other Muslim friends.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

     -   Gambling for Muslims is a grave sin or forbidden. The only thing I don't understand is, What is the connection between halal and a casino? This is because it is said in their Quran that gambling is really forbidden. But why does it seem like it's okay here and it's not a sin anymore? Why, because that casino is halal-approved? Isn't this still a form of gambling if I look at it literally?

Doesn't it seem like they are also destroying their own beliefs or teachings for Muslims? But that's what they believe anyway, and I respect that, and that's what should be done.

[jordanw21]

     -   Gambling for Muslims is a grave sin or forbidden. The only thing I don't understand is, What is the connection between halal and a casino? This is because it is said in their Quran that gambling is really forbidden. But why does it seem like it's okay here and it's not a sin anymore? Why, because that casino is halal-approved? Isn't this still a form of gambling if I look at it literally?

Doesn't it seem like they are also destroying their own beliefs or teachings for Muslims? But that's what they believe anyway, and I respect that, and that's what should be done.

I guess it could be kinda marketing trick to get non-Islamic players into a casino, as the word "Halal" means "tested, quality guaranteed" for some people.

[macson]

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It's really sensitive topic. This topic has a very strong relationship to the muslim. AFAIK everything related to the casino was not allowed in the islamic religion. We shall just stay away from discussing this topic as it will be a never ending discussion discussing about something that doesn't allowed in their religions but keep forcing to allow everything based on their personal idealism. The only thing that i know if casino will never be allowed for muslim.

The video was only discussing about another thing. It seems like that the title was misleading people. It's pretty much like a click bait strategy by the creator of video.

Maybe they want to insert the idea about possible betting in halal way but if you think about it more deeply its still betting so there's no way that it will be good in any form since gambling still a sin on Islam religion. I know many muslim doesn't follow this order and hide their activity to their relative but for clearly exposing this activity much better if they will not participate on any of it in public to avoid any trouble since for sure their are extreme followers criticize them for this activities.

@aubert you are absolutely right, this topic is very sensitive, we cannot intervene in other people's religions, protecting other people's feelings is very important and i am sure that there are quite a lot of members here who are various Muslims and will definitely be sensitive to discussions that are actually not important ^{(i support we have to stop it)}
Whatever your religion, gambling is a personal freedom, but you don't need to reveal it to the public because there are still many people out there who will label you as someone who is not diverse ^{(especially those who are anti-gambling)}, gamble responsibly, and consider it as entertainment.

[yudi09]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

The title of the video contains a question mark, there is a possibility that the Mufti Menk's video intends to invite discussion or try to explain well to the audience about the notion of gambling if I'm not mistaken because I don't understand the language of the video.

In Islam, gambling is something that is prohibited by law. Something that is prohibited by the law of sin because there is something that can have a bad impact on the perpetrator. I think about gambling is very clear in Islam.
If there are still gamblers who are Muslim, it is not the Islam that is at issue but the person.

Every religion does not teach bad things.

[Pandu Geddon]

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  

Actually, we don't need to include religious elements in gambling. because I don't think it's only certain religions that prohibit gambling. All religions teach goodness, not just Islam.
and for Muslims, gambling is still not halal. whatever the concept, if it was still in the form of a game with stakes, people would call it gambling.

smart people are now trying to come up with their own theories. Even the current banking system, which is also considered haram, now has a Sharia-based banking system. after there is a halal casino claim, maybe there will also be a Sharia-based casino.

[erep]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

I feel concerned that some Islamic scholars have changed religious regulations based on their own opinions or reviewed something but did not relate it to the basic Islamic religious regulations that have been established, whoever says casinos are halal in Islam are a heretical group. Several other Islamic scholars in Zimbabwe must immediately correct this person's misguided opinion so that the problem must be straightened out according to Islamic rules.

All regulations in any religion must be implemented correctly and never change, replace or revise religious regulations based on personal opinion because this will cause conflict problems between religious communities.

[Wiwo]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

I feel concerned that some Islamic scholars have changed religious regulations based on their own opinions or reviewed something but did not relate it to the basic Islamic religious regulations that have been established, whoever says casinos are halal in Islam are a heretical group. Several other Islamic scholars in Zimbabwe must immediately correct this person's misguided opinion so that the problem can be straightened out according to Islamic rules.

All regulations in any religion must be implemented correctly and never change, replace or revise religious regulations based on personal opinion because this will cause conflict problems between religious communities.

There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.

[Westinhome]

There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.

The Islamic based countries surely follow the islamic rules for gambling,according to the religion gambling was not the acceptable one.So I was confused about this Halal gambling.This seems like the gambling getting some marketing tactics to the gambling and to involve the Muslim community to use this type of gambling.Playing the gambling is based on the individual as compared to the religion.So some of my Muslim friends use to play the gambling without knowing to their own community people.When the Islamic religion cross this ban,then my friends will play the gambling without any hide and seek.

[Cling18]

There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.

The Islamic based countries surely follow the islamic rules for gambling,according to the religion gambling was not the acceptable one.So I was confused about this Halal gambling.This seems like the gambling getting some marketing tactics to the gambling and to involve the Muslim community to use this type of gambling.Playing the gambling is based on the individual as compared to the religion.So some of my Muslim friends use to play the gambling without knowing to their own community people.When the Islamic religion cross this ban,then my friends will play the gambling without any hide and seek.

This is obviously a marketing strategy targeting the Muslim community. Gambling is against their religion and belief so even if there were Muslim organizations that allow this, I'm sure that there would still be conflicts regarding their principles.
It's their tactic to attract gamblers especially the Islamic countries which is clearly against their religion because I don't think it's ideal to drag religions into gambling.
The Muslim community has a high respect for their religion and it's something that we should respect as well. I don't think it's a good idea to involve religion just to attract more players.

[BitcoinPanther]

There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.

The Islamic based countries surely follow the islamic rules for gambling,according to the religion gambling was not the acceptable one.So I was confused about this Halal gambling.This seems like the gambling getting some marketing tactics to the gambling and to involve the Muslim community to use this type of gambling.Playing the gambling is based on the individual as compared to the religion.So some of my Muslim friends use to play the gambling without knowing to their own community people.When the Islamic religion cross this ban,then my friends will play the gambling without any hide and seek.

It is true that this kind of approach is more of a Marketing strategy where the casino aims to target the Muslim's psychology making them think that it is better to sin one time than two or three times.  The concept of Halal Casino targets Muslim players that can't stop themselves from gambling, and cater their need such as Halal approved food and the place for prayers. 

This is like, if Muslims can't stop themselves from gambling then why not minimize the sin they are committing by serving them food according to Islamic belief and at the same time give them a place for prayers when the time comes that the need of prayer arises.

[Rabata]

There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.

The Islamic based countries surely follow the islamic rules for gambling,according to the religion gambling was not the acceptable one.So I was confused about this Halal gambling.This seems like the gambling getting some marketing tactics to the gambling and to involve the Muslim community to use this type of gambling.Playing the gambling is based on the individual as compared to the religion.So some of my Muslim friends use to play the gambling without knowing to their own community people.When the Islamic religion cross this ban,then my friends will play the gambling without any hide and seek.

In this regard I have some Muslim friends who said about gambling that it is totally forbidden in their religion. Their religion never accepts anything like this. Those who interpret it positively would be mistaken. But even though many Muslims know it is up to them to go to a casino or gamble. No one can get any action and many people play these games secretly. As a result, those people cannot be identified. But if it depends on the religion then it is a completely prohibited act.

[bettercrypto]

What I see there is that they used the Halal approved because they know that most Muslims will not have a problem if they see that a casino is halal connected. And this is a way for them to establish a Muslim community that will enter the casino,  maybe their main target is also people who are not Muslims.

It seems to be part of their marketing strategy,  it's like a trick that is not directly like that, but the result will be gambling in the end. If that's the case, it can be said that the strategy they came up with is good, in my opinion.

[swogerino]

From the Muslim colleagues I have in my work I know that this can't be the truth and that scholar should not be a good one if he is offering the concept of such casino where Muslims will be allowed to play.I know though that some Muslims even from countries like Saudi Arabia or other countries gamble as I have seen Arabic names in Stake chat and a lot of them,maybe the idea of that scholar is to switch these players to that casino in order to get the benefits themselves,to get the money spending there in their casino as they play anyway so maybe that is why.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

As a Muslim I can never accept gambling as halal. Gambling has been declared haram or forbidden by an Islamic organization and management. Many people who work with me are involved in bad activities like gambling but I never agree to spend time in gambling or casino. As far as I know those who spend time in gambling cause chaos in their family and marital life. Many people I have met have made it big on gambling and are now living with poverty in their families. So it is never possible to accept gambling as halal because gambling is responsible for causing all the problems.

[ethereumhunter]

What I see there is that they used the Halal approved because they know that most Muslims will not have a problem if they see that a casino is halal connected. And this is a way for them to establish a Muslim community that will enter the casino,  maybe their main target is also people who are not Muslims.

It seems to be part of their marketing strategy,  it's like a trick that is not directly like that, but the result will be gambling in the end. If that's the case, it can be said that the strategy they came up with is good, in my opinion.

The Muslim community will not go near gambling, let alone enter a casino. Whatever is in the casino environment, meaning inside the casino, will probably never be visited by Muslim people. They know that if they enter the casino, even if it's on the lower floor, they can easily be tempted and will end up seeing what's on the top floor where the casino is.

Their strategy is good but won't work for the Muslim community because they already understand the difference between Halal and Haram. They will never approach something like Haram just because of strategy or whatever. So the video won't get any response from people who already understand.

[avp2306]

As a Muslim I can never accept gambling as halal. Gambling has been declared haram or forbidden by an Islamic organization and management. Many people who work with me are involved in bad activities like gambling but I never agree to spend time in gambling or casino. As far as I know those who spend time in gambling cause chaos in their family and marital life. Many people I have met have made it big on gambling and are now living with poverty in their families. So it is never possible to accept gambling as halal because gambling is responsible for causing all the problems.

You do the right thing since gambling in any form is really a sin to islam and heavily discourage to participate on said religion. But some other didn't follow and its given since every person is prone to get baited on temptation but as long as you are fine then doesn't get bothered the this is really good for you. I also don't think muslim community will adopt this idea since for sure muslim leaders will discourage those people actively participating on this activity.

[ScamViruS]

You do the right thing since gambling in any form is really a sin to islam and heavily discourage to participate on said religion. But some other didn't follow and its given since every person is prone to get baited on temptation but as long as you are fine then doesn't get bothered the this is really good for you. I also don't think muslim community will adopt this idea since for sure muslim leaders will discourage those people actively participating on this activity.

If someone wants to follow his religion completely and avoid what is forbidden in his religion then that is his own opinion. I have seen many of my Muslim friends gambling regularly, they gamble even after knowing that gambling is forbidden in their religion. Those who gamble do not pay attention to the rules of religion, they gamble as they wish.

Since many Muslims gamble, it is an open secret, meaning that there are many Muslim gamblers in every country who gamble openly or secretly. Any step can be taken to bring them together and this Mufti may have thought about this concept. Now it remains to be seen what others think about this and whether they will implement this concept.

I have seen this video before and posted in this thread that the video is very different from the title.

[elevates]

The Muslim community will not go near gambling, let alone enter a casino. Whatever is in the casino environment, meaning inside the casino, will probably never be visited by Muslim people. They know that if they enter the casino, even if it's on the lower floor, they can easily be tempted and will end up seeing what's on the top floor where the casino is.

Their strategy is good but won't work for the Muslim community because they already understand the difference between Halal and Haram. They will never approach something like Haram just because of strategy or whatever. So the video won't get any response from people who already understand.

How do you know that those who follow Islam do not commit haram. I know a few friends who follow Islam do gamble and occasionally consume alcohol. Not everyone in Islam follows it truly. They do it in hiding and they don't regret their doing. That is one such reality which many Muslim might ignore here. The word casino itself is haram, if someone wants to disguise it as halal then it is the choice of those following the religion to either allow it or ignore it. In general such stupidity cannot be ignored and those preaching it cannot justify the reality. 

[Jawhead999]

Gambling is always haram in Islam, there's no excuse to say gambling is halal, period.

How do you know that those who follow Islam do not commit haram. I know a few friends who follow Islam do gamble and occasionally consume alcohol. Not everyone in Islam follows it truly. They do it in hiding and they don't regret their doing. That is one such reality which many Muslim might ignore here. The word casino itself is haram, if someone wants to disguise it as halal then it is the choice of those following the religion to either allow it or ignore it. In general such stupidity cannot be ignored and those preaching it cannot justify the reality. 

It means they're not a real Muslim, but they're get pressured by their parent to join Islam religion. A real Muslim will never have a boyfriend or girlfriend, but most of them broke this rule. Gambling? alcohol? having sex? those are normal except eating a pork, that's completely HARAM

[Eureka_07]

<snip>

I am not a Muslim myself, but to the best of my knowledge, based on their Qur'an, gambling is considered a sin. Consequently, it is generally expected that Muslims should refrain from engaging in it. Muslims are renowned for their strong religious beliefs and typically follow the teachings of the Qur'an closely. Given this, I believe that the concept of a 'Halal casino' would likely encounter significant opposition from the Muslim community.

[salad daging]

Gambling is always haram in Islam, there's no excuse to say gambling is halal, period.

You are right.

It means they're not a real Muslim, but they're get pressured by their parent to join Islam religion. A real Muslim will never have a boyfriend or girlfriend, but most of them broke this rule. Gambling? alcohol? having sex? those are normal except eating a pork, that's completely HARAM

I want to laugh at this, but there's also some truth to what I feel in my own area. Lol

The majority here are Muslims
People dating? There is
People gambling and drinking alcohol? That's a lot
Having sex and getting pregnant out of wedlock? There are

When an artist eats pork, it's Haram and he's on the news and in jail.

[cabron]

Gambling is always haram in Islam, there's no excuse to say gambling is halal, period.

You are right.

It means they're not a real Muslim, but they're get pressured by their parent to join Islam religion. A real Muslim will never have a boyfriend or girlfriend, but most of them broke this rule. Gambling? alcohol? having sex? those are normal except eating a pork, that's completely HARAM

I want to laugh at this, but there's also some truth to what I feel in my own area. Lol

The majority here are Muslims
People dating? There is
People gambling and drinking alcohol? That's a lot
Having sex and getting pregnant out of wedlock? There are

When an artist eats pork, it's Haram and he's on the news and in jail.

Pressured by their parents to join Islam?  There is no way you can be a Christian when you're born in a Muslim country. Religion is the basis of the kids' traits of course they will teach Islaam to their kids. Same with Christian parents teaching their kids of Jesus' teachings.

But gambling being Haram is normal to Muslims. It's what they teach for their kids to grow up not having to play their fate on games. Whether they play casino in hiding, it's their business though. Pretty sure they gamble too but not in close doors.

[serjent05]

<snip>

I am not a Muslim myself, but to the best of my knowledge, based on their Qur'an, gambling is considered a sin. Consequently, it is generally expected that Muslims should refrain from engaging in it. Muslims are renowned for their strong religious beliefs and typically follow the teachings of the Qur'an closely. Given this, I believe that the concept of a 'Halal casino' would likely encounter significant opposition from the Muslim community.

It will really have strong opposition to those who do not gamble in the casino.  But for those who are frequent visitor of a casino, this concept is a good deal for them, since they don't have to worry about where to get their food and the place for prayers when it is time for their daily prayers.

The proposition of this idea simply tells that not all Muslims follow all their Islamic belief same goes for Christians and other religions. However I agree that a casino will never be Halal as long as the Islamic teaching sees gambling as haram.  But many businessmen want to exploit this kind of loophole (stated in the video) and create a twisted idea that can confuse those who has a weaker understanding of the religion's teachings.

[TastyChillySauce00]

It seems to be part of their marketing strategy,  it's like a trick that is not directly like that, but the result will be gambling in the end. If that's the case, it can be said that the strategy they came up with is good, in my opinion.

The title might be only a click bait strategy in getting more viewers. It's a common thing to see that someone who puts controversial title to attack others to watch his video.

I have stopped to watch it since the video is not related to the click bait title used by the creator of this video.

The concept of halal casino is just a clickbait. Nothing more than it.

[sunsilk]

Well, if something goes too deep with this then it is not surprising. It's better not to practice or touch or get into the boundaries of beliefs that are against gambling and religion.

But as what others have said, this is not for real and the video maker did a good job for making everyone curious if there's one really in existence and as well as with the help of OP.

I wonder if something like that exists for real, will the leaders of the Islam will sue the developers of it.

[peter0425]

<snip>

I am not a Muslim myself, but to the best of my knowledge, based on their Qur'an, gambling is considered a sin. Consequently, it is generally expected that Muslims should refrain from engaging in it. Muslims are renowned for their strong religious beliefs and typically follow the teachings of the Qur'an closely. Given this, I believe that the concept of a 'Halal casino' would likely encounter significant opposition from the Muslim community.

and that is why i really respect their Qur'an because of their true value in terms of gambling
and also this will save Muslim's around the world from addiction and losses.
while other religion is suffering from addicted gambling members and theirs are safer.

[ethereumhunter]

How do you know that those who follow Islam do not commit haram. I know a few friends who follow Islam do gamble and occasionally consume alcohol. Not everyone in Islam follows it truly. They do it in hiding and they don't regret their doing. That is one such reality which many Muslim might ignore here. The word casino itself is haram, if someone wants to disguise it as halal then it is the choice of those following the religion to either allow it or ignore it. In general such stupidity cannot be ignored and those preaching it cannot justify the reality. 

They should not do anything haram. But they are humans and no human is perfect. That makes many of them still do haram things. But I think all adherents of Islam know what is halal and what is haram, although some of them still do things that are haram. It's the same with other religious people. They know that alcohol and other things are haram or shouldn't be consumed or done, but why do they still do it? All religions teach good and bad, but humans abuse it, giving us problems. So the concept of halal and haram here is clear but we determine it.

[slapper]

<snip>

I am not a Muslim myself, but to the best of my knowledge, based on their Qur'an, gambling is considered a sin. Consequently, it is generally expected that Muslims should refrain from engaging in it. Muslims are renowned for their strong religious beliefs and typically follow the teachings of the Qur'an closely. Given this, I believe that the concept of a 'Halal casino' would likely encounter significant opposition from the Muslim community.

It will really have strong opposition to those who do not gamble in the casino.  But for those who are frequent visitor of a casino, this concept is a good deal for them, since they don't have to worry about where to get their food and the place for prayers when it is time for their daily prayers.

The proposition of this idea simply tells that not all Muslims follow all their Islamic belief same goes for Christians and other religions. However I agree that a casino will never be Halal as long as the Islamic teaching sees gambling as haram.  But many businessmen want to exploit this kind of loophole (stated in the video) and create a twisted idea that can confuse those who has a weaker understanding of the religion's teachings.

So, these so-called "loopholes" that businessmen are exploiting to make gambling appear more acceptable to different religious groups? That's a blatant corruption of belief systems, for pure profit. Do you really think that adds value? No, it merely muddles the line between right and wrong, further blurring our societal norms.

By the way, no amount of twisting can make a casino Halal if Islamic teaching states that gambling is haram. I mean, isnt that logic straightforward? Apparently not, it seems.

[Negotiation]

<snip>

I am not a Muslim myself, but to the best of my knowledge, based on their Qur'an, gambling is considered a sin. Consequently, it is generally expected that Muslims should refrain from engaging in it. Muslims are renowned for their strong religious beliefs and typically follow the teachings of the Qur'an closely. Given this, I believe that the concept of a 'Halal casino' would likely encounter significant opposition from the Muslim community.

Gambling is not halal in islam all forms of gambling are illegal in Islam everything derived from gambling is haram. Therefore, as a Muslim it is necessary to stay away from all forms of gambling. Gambling is described in the Qur'an as an abomination and the work of satan. It has been ordered to stay away from them. Enmity and hatred are created through gambling. In addition through these satan diverts people from prayer and remembrance of Allah.

[uneng]

The message of the video is simple: just because you are involved with one sin, by the rules of their religion, it doesn't mean you should forget about everything and surrender yourself to another sins. Walk one step at a time. If you aren't able to get rid of a sin right now, just be careful to not add more sins to your daily life. If you are able to maintain just one it's progress already, although it can still get better, until you completely eliminate all of them.

That is what the preacher meant. You may be a gambler and even though it's against your religion, it doesn't mean you should stop praying and praising God. God knows our failures and imperfections, but He still love us and believe in our potential of becoming better human beings.

[noormcs5]

The message of the video is simple: just because you are involved with one sin, by the rules of their religion, it doesn't mean you should forget about everything and surrender yourself to another sins. Walk one step at a time. If you aren't able to get rid of a sin right now, just be careful to not add more sins to your daily life. If you are able to maintain just one it's progress already, although it can still get better, until you completely eliminate all of them.

That is what the preacher meant. You may be a gambler and even though it's against your religion, it doesn't mean you should stop praying and praising God. God knows our failures and imperfections, but He still love us and believe in our potential of becoming better human beings.

But that also does not mean that you start believing that this one sin (in this case gambling) is right to do and you find yourself in such a situation where your heart and mind feel satisfied that since you are doing many other good deeds, this one sin can be done and there will be no questioning about it.

This message can taken in both directions if you do one sin, then it should not stop you from doing other good things but at the same time if you are doing many good things. you should not use it as an excuse to commit a few sins, knowing that these are not allowed in your religion.

[Odusko]

How do you know that those who follow Islam do not commit haram? I know a few friends who follow Islam do gamble and occasionally consume alcohol. Not everyone in Islam follows it truly. They do it in hiding and they don't regret their doing. That is one such reality which many Muslims might ignore here. The word casino itself is haram, if someone wants to disguise it as halal then it is the choice of those following the religion to either allow it or ignore it. In general such stupidity cannot be ignored and those preaching it cannot justify the reality. 

They should not do anything haram. But they are humans and no human is perfect. That makes many of them still do haram things. But I think all adherents of Islam know what is halal and what is haram, although some of them still do things that are haram. It's the same with other religious people. They know that alcohol and other things are haram or shouldn't be consumed or done, but why do they still do it? All religions teach good and bad, but humans abuse it, giving us problems. So the concept of halal and haram here is clear but we determine it.

The best way to have the right idea to respond to this question is by first of all watching the video to see what the video is all about and, Islamic scholars i beginning to dive into a different new level of teaching which is going to be very interesting, since some of them are already questioning to old status quo, and if you must know why some religion followers default in they practice some time is because of how malicious those rules are and how they religion interpret it, but more also what have influenced alot of things also is the changing in societal perspectives.

[AmoreJaz]

The message of the video is simple: just because you are involved with one sin, by the rules of their religion, it doesn't mean you should forget about everything and surrender yourself to another sins. Walk one step at a time. If you aren't able to get rid of a sin right now, just be careful to not add more sins to your daily life. If you are able to maintain just one it's progress already, although it can still get better, until you completely eliminate all of them.

That is what the preacher meant. You may be a gambler and even though it's against your religion, it doesn't mean you should stop praying and praising God. God knows our failures and imperfections, but He still love us and believe in our potential of becoming better human beings.

But that also does not mean that you start believing that this one sin (in this case gambling) is right to do and you find yourself in such a situation where your heart and mind feel satisfied that since you are doing many other good deeds, this one sin can be done and there will be no questioning about it.

This message can taken in both directions if you do one sin, then it should not stop you from doing other good things but at the same time if you are doing many good things. you should not use it as an excuse to commit a few sins, knowing that these are not allowed in your religion.

well, how you will live your life depends on what you truly believe in life. you may have your religion as your guide and assist what would you classify as a sin or not, but it is still up to you how you will apply it in your everyday life.
so committing one sin doesn't mean you are not a follower of your religion. as a human, you are prone to committing mistakes. and you can make amends with such mistakes or sin as you called it, by following some rituals that you think can salvage you depending on your beliefs. just accept the fact that no human is perfect to live on this planet. and it is up to you how you interpret things and live a meaningful life.

[masulum]

The concept is explained as "in a casino, a gambler can still pray, they provide a place of worship for Muslims who gamble. That is, this concept is not the concept of a halal casino. But, it only provides prayer facilities for a Muslim. Well, if that's just a concept in the building , it's fine, as advertising, but it might hurt Muslim people who don't like gambling.

[Casdinyard]

If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, isn't gambling itself considered haram in Islam? So how are they going to present a halal casino when the very concept of a casino is to offer gambling services? I couldn't wrap my head around the concept. If they are just offering a prayer place inside the casino premises, isn't that spitting at the face of this holy religion that people all over the world are following? It's an equivalent of blasphemy in christianity if you'll ask me since it's defiling the very symbol/concept of your religion. Plus there's no way this isn't already getting enough flak from the devout Muslim community considering how dedicated they are at following their teachings, to introduce something so radical and nonsensical even is a little over to them if I'm going to be honest.

[goldkingcoiner]

This all seems very strange. I have seen so-called muslims attempting to justify haram actions, like drinking alcohol, through loopholes and with poetic wording. And it is obvious that they are not really holding themselves to their religion but are making excuses. But those kinds of "muslims" are rather rare. The promotion of a Halal Casino seems like a next step to that. Why anyone would waste time trying to market something to a specific audience which, in the majority, is not interested in that thing in the first place? Not only a counter productive failed marketing attempt but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

[Hispo]

If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, isn't gambling itself considered haram in Islam? So how are they going to present a halal casino when the very concept of a casino is to offer gambling services? I couldn't wrap my head around the concept. If they are just offering a prayer place inside the casino premises, isn't that spitting at the face of this holy religion that people all over the world are following? It's an equivalent of blasphemy in christianity if you'll ask me since it's defiling the very symbol/concept of your religion. Plus there's no way this isn't already getting enough flak from the devout Muslim community considering how dedicated they are at following their teachings, to introduce something so radical and nonsensical even is a little over to them if I'm going to be honest.

It is marketing after all. So everything is possible for the sake of getting people into the World of Gambling and Sportbetting.

Just think about it, Islam is one of the biggest religions on the planet, which would mean an important percentage of potential clients and gamblers are kept outside casino by their personal belief, if someone managed to reform the teachings of their religion somehow so allow people to wager money,.it would translate into billions of dollars in revenue from Muslim people alone, I am not saying it is a good or bad thing, by the way, just stating  what probable some casino owners in Asia and the middle East think of.

[Fortify]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

Gambling is against one of the very core beliefs of Islam, so there is no way that this is going to survive for a long time. Just like trying to setup an operation in China, the government might decide to stamp this out at any point and you will lose any deposited money, so beware of putting anything into it. Not only that, but judging by how aggressive certain sections of Muslims can be, the owner is likely to be targeted for such "blasphemous" behavior in future and will also use that point to vanish with your money. A fatwa is basically a government decision in this country, but will be susceptible to cancellation. Zimbabwe is a poor and struggling country, so any opportunity they have to seize money from "non believers" will be taken.

[red4slash]

Gambling is always haram in Islam, there's no excuse to say gambling is halal, period.

Yep, in the end, this is not a problem in religion because in Islam gambling is something that is haram and there is no argument about this.
As for those who are Muslims who still do gambling, it is not a problem in religion but indeed their foundation in religion is not very good. I don't really understand what the law is on gambling for each religion because I'm not in that field but when they say gambling is forbidden in Islam then it is true and we can't justify something that is forbidden in the first place.

[BitcoinPanther]

If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, isn't gambling itself considered haram in Islam? So how are they going to present a halal casino when the very concept of a casino is to offer gambling services? I couldn't wrap my head around the concept. If they are just offering a prayer place inside the casino premises, isn't that spitting at the face of this holy religion that people all over the world are following? It's an equivalent of blasphemy in christianity if you'll ask me since it's defiling the very symbol/concept of your religion. Plus there's no way this isn't already getting enough flak from the devout Muslim community considering how dedicated they are at following their teachings, to introduce something so radical and nonsensical even is a little over to them if I'm going to be honest.

It is marketing after all. So everything is possible for the sake of getting people into the World of Gambling and Sportbetting.

Just think about it, Islam is one of the biggest religions on the planet, which would mean an important percentage of potential clients and gamblers are kept outside casino by their personal belief, if someone managed to reform the teachings of their religion somehow so allow people to wager money,.it would translate into billions of dollars in revenue from Muslim people alone, I am not saying it is a good or bad thing, by the way, just stating  what probable some casino owners in Asia and the middle East think of.

I think no matter how great the marketing of a casino is, it won't affect the teaching of Islam, only a half baked believer will think that it is a good news but those who understand the teachings of Islamic Religion would never fall into that trap.

But then again, as it is business, I agree that they wanted to lure people into believing that their casino is way better than other casino since they are serving Halal food and a place for prayers.  This kind of strategy would be at least a good approach to those Muslims who are into gambling activities.

[Mate2237]

I thought gambling is forbidden according to the Quran. This situation seems to be an attempt to make an exemption. I don't know if it's approved by other Muslim leaders. When you mention gambling, it should be automatically considered forbidden.

This pertains to religion; I am not Muslim. We would like to hear from our Muslim brothers here whether they would agree to gambling at a Halal Casino.

So how about eating pork? Is there some kind of Halal Pork, or something?

Yes the Quran forbid gambling and the Holy Bible also forbid gambling and these are the two major religious that forbid gambling, but it is an individual choice and interest. And we come to some certain things, we should remove religious from it. Gambling has been existing from the creation of the world. Gambling is a competition that winner take all. Serpent gambled with Eve and won her heart, and through her, he (serpent) won Adam and he collected all from them. Even when Jesus came to the synagogue, people were playing gamble there, so gambling is personal decision and and not a religious affair.

If I am not mistaking, Christians play gamble more than Muslims. And from the Op, I was thinking that the YouTube video would strictly for Islamic casino but from what I saw there is general. Gambling is for everywhere and not for a particular group.

[letteredhub]

To be honest, I thought the video was about an Islamic casino or a casino that allows Muslims to gamble because I have seen so many of his videos on other topics and also some short clips from TikTok and his teachings are always good to listen to.

And to see his picture on a casino post really got my attention. Although his post didn’t ponder entirely on casino but I still got something from it, like we shouldn’t discourage one from doing something good even if all they have been doing in their life has been evil. And since gambling is haram we shouldn’t discourage those that partake in it to not do other holy things because we are all human and we can change for the better and that little good they did could be the catalyst for it.

It's more like not condemning those Muslims that's still go on indulging in gambling activity despite calling themselves Muslims and knowing fully that what they're are doing is a Haram to their religion and belief system. That showing them love even in their sinful life believing that they will one day change from continually doing that which is Haram like the gambling.  IMO, some of these condemnation people face in their religion for reason of one sinful act or the other is usually taken up by those religious extremists and such attitude is not healthy in any religion.

[ethereumhunter]

The best way to have the right idea to respond to this question is by first of all watching the video to see what the video is all about and, Islamic scholars i beginning to dive into a different new level of teaching which is going to be very interesting, since some of them are already questioning to old status quo, and if you must know why some religion followers default in they practice some time is because of how malicious those rules are and how they religion interpret it, but more also what have influenced alot of things also is the changing in societal perspectives.

One religious leader interprets what is in his religion, and other religious leaders interpret the same thing but from a different point of view, so this alone often creates conflict. So, regarding the video, what are the responses from other scholars and how do they react to it? That's what we have to look for.

This may be a new level of teaching, but it would be better for all scholars to find the most suitable method for their people because not all have advanced thinking. Many people from the same religion still do not have thoughts that are in line with their religious leaders, so they often misunderstand what they interpret. And this is what everyone pays attention to and how they perceive and, see and understand the content of the video.

[Bitcoin_people]

<snip>

I am not a Muslim myself, but to the best of my knowledge, based on their Qur'an, gambling is considered a sin. Consequently, it is generally expected that Muslims should refrain from engaging in it. Muslims are renowned for their strong religious beliefs and typically follow the teachings of the Qur'an closely. Given this, I believe that the concept of a 'Halal casino' would likely encounter significant opposition from the Muslim community.

Gambling is not halal in islam all forms of gambling are illegal in Islam everything derived from gambling is haram. Therefore, as a Muslim it is necessary to stay away from all forms of gambling. Gambling is described in the Qur'an as an abomination and the work of satan. It has been ordered to stay away from them. Enmity and hatred are created through gambling. In addition through these satan diverts people from prayer and remembrance of Allah.

Yes, it is true that gambling or various casinos are haram in the eyes of Islam, there is no such thing as halal. They all religions have such revelations of good and evil and instructions yet people indulge in those sinful activities or evil actions. We know that drinking alcohol or wine is completely forbidden in Islam, yet knowing all these things consume them and engage in haram activities. In that case we will definitely look at such casino platform as haram and never be halal. Casino is never halal it is totally haram and by gambling people indulge in their various evil deeds due to which gambling is haram in Islam.

[Synchronice]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

He doesn't really talk about the Halal Casino, his focus is on the fact that if someone does one sin, you shouldn't tell them what's the point of protecting this rule if you commit sin in other thing. If you commit sin in one particular thing, you shouldn't think like after one sin, it's okay to commit every sin. Overall, it's better to commit one sin over two sins. This title was really a clickbait for me but his point is clear and to be honest, title was sarcasm in this case. How can halal casino exist? There is no way, right? The act of gambling is a sin in Muslin religion itself. It's also sin to give away loans but modern world, even Muslim world has banks and their bank concept is really very interesting. I thought there was some kind of similar concept in gambling too when he gave this video a Halal Casino title.

[Maslate]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

Dear OP,

I know you are a Muslim. This thread's title and the content do not match at all. I watched the video as well. The person did not say anything about the halal casino there. He just said that some casino players are Muslim, and those casinos have a dedicated place for them to pray. A Casino has a dedicated place for prayer that does not make it halal.

I don't know why you decided to use such a title, but it's misleading people, especially non-muslims who did not even watch the video. They might think we are trying to make it Halal or the person in Video tried to make it Halal. I would request you to change the title of this thread.

[Tipstar]

Muslims have been selectively interpreting the book of Quran for ages. Alcohol and Gambling had been a part of the muslim world and is still popular among some sects.

They ask you about wine (khamr) and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit." Quran 2:219

Quran does accept the presence of alcohol and gambling and accepts it benefit some people. But in general says "sin is greater than their benefit"
So it doesn't outright ban it.
It's an accepted fact that compulsive gambling and compulsive alcoholism is bad. No one in sane mind would call them a good thing.
But a bit of gambling with small part of your earnings and a few pegs of alcohol after a busy day work would be fine.
Even if you believe your religious text prescribes gambling as a sin, you should realize that even if you commit some small sins,

Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed He is the most Forgiving, the Merciful (Quran 39:53).

[Hispo]

If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, isn't gambling itself considered haram in Islam? So how are they going to present a halal casino when the very concept of a casino is to offer gambling services? I couldn't wrap my head around the concept. If they are just offering a prayer place inside the casino premises, isn't that spitting at the face of this holy religion that people all over the world are following? It's an equivalent of blasphemy in christianity if you'll ask me since it's defiling the very symbol/concept of your religion. Plus there's no way this isn't already getting enough flak from the devout Muslim community considering how dedicated they are at following their teachings, to introduce something so radical and nonsensical even is a little over to them if I'm going to be honest.

It is marketing after all. So everything is possible for the sake of getting people into the World of Gambling and Sportbetting.

Just think about it, Islam is one of the biggest religions on the planet, which would mean an important percentage of potential clients and gamblers are kept outside casino by their personal belief, if someone managed to reform the teachings of their religion somehow so allow people to wager money,.it would translate into billions of dollars in revenue from Muslim people alone, I am not saying it is a good or bad thing, by the way, just stating  what probable some casino owners in Asia and the middle East think of.

I think no matter how great the marketing of a casino is, it won't affect the teaching of Islam, only a half baked believer will think that it is a good news but those who understand the teachings of Islamic Religion would never fall into that trap.

But then again, as it is business, I agree that they wanted to lure people into believing that their casino is way better than other casino since they are serving Halal food and a place for prayers.  This kind of strategy would be at least a good approach to those Muslims who are into gambling activities.

It may be also go beyond marketing, to be honest. For casinos and even banks to be considered halal they would need to study and interpret themselves the Koran, so they can find a solution.

For example, what if a casino tried to make their activities less dependant on luck to lean towards player skills against other players in P2P games. The administration could charge a fixed fee for each match and since it is not completely about luck and randomness, some people who are muslin could consider it not to be gambling, but something different, of course the trick is for casinos to find a fun and engaging solution people of faith may be willing to try.

It makes me think of other realigions and sects have always tended towards being more lax on their dietary and behavioral rules through time.

[Reatim]

The concept is explained as "in a casino, a gambler can still pray, they provide a place of worship for Muslims who gamble. That is, this concept is not the concept of a halal casino. But, it only provides prayer facilities for a Muslim. Well, if that's just a concept in the building , it's fine, as advertising, but it might hurt Muslim people who don't like gambling.

isn't same concept as what they try to elaborate ? is it our Muslim Brother who are in by chance is in questioned here.
because if the casino has a muslim gambler then it is the topic that they have provided a place to pray.
and yes if it is prohibited or not?
but anyway , I respect every  Muslim brothers, and support their stand and belief in life.

[dezoel]

Within the Islamic community, there has been some movements towards finding ways to practice things which were not possible in previous centuries, Halal banking is a good example of it.

Muslims cannot charge for interest, but they managed to start banks and instead apply interest to their clients for loans, they simply call it with s different name like "fees for service* and does not apply in a percentage. So they can do banking and not be haram.

I would not be surprised if some of them are trying to apply the same principle to casinos somewhere, do they can glamble and still not to commit a sin in the eyes of Allah.

There is absolutely no concept like that in Islam where a Muslim can gamble and not be sinful because it is completely prohibited, banking is a totally different thing because, in banking, one doesn't have to be sinful other than if they take a loan and pay interest on that because interest-based loans are also prohibited in Islam and you cannot take a loan and pay extra money on top of that because you will be committing a sin if you are doing that.

So, there is basically no concept of a halal casino anywhere in the world and the video that OP shared doesn't say anything like that, it only explains that a person who is committing one sin isn't supposed to commit another sin thinking that they are already sinful so what's the point of being careful now.

[kotajikikox]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

actually this is a topic that has never ending or have no ending because different religion will give different interpretation .
maybe let us Muslim brothers answers this as they are the one who knows what is good and better to deal with this.
as they are also the one who has that teaching and should follow according to their beliefs .

[arwin100]

The concept is explained as "in a casino, a gambler can still pray, they provide a place of worship for Muslims who gamble. That is, this concept is not the concept of a halal casino. But, it only provides prayer facilities for a Muslim. Well, if that's just a concept in the building , it's fine, as advertising, but it might hurt Muslim people who don't like gambling.

isn't same concept as what they try to elaborate ? is it our Muslim Brother who are in by chance is in questioned here.
because if the casino has a muslim gambler then it is the topic that they have provided a place to pray.
and yes if it is prohibited or not?
but anyway , I respect every  Muslim brothers, and support their stand and belief in life.

Still no sense at all if they pray and still commit a sin after they play on a what so called halal casino and I don't really get the point about trying to rise up a same like concept since at the end of the day gambling still consider as a big sin on their religion. That's why I have huge respect to our muslim brothers since they usually follow what is prohibited to them and also their sacrifices to follow what is good on their religion and their beliefs.

[rozak]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

We cannot change our religious views towards something that is wrong and then becomes justified. if it is wrong in religious law, then it will still be wrong.
the problem is the religious level of each person is different. those who understand well the laws of their religion that regulate gambling as a wrong activity, then they will definitely avoid it.
but for those who have a less good religious understanding. may still be making justifications regarding gambling activity. All we have to ask ourselves. and we will find the answer that we have to do.

[paxmao]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

I think that what is not allowed is bit dependent on interpretation. I not a Muslim either but it would seem that anything that is not specifically forbidden or "frowned upon" is subject to whatever the religious branch or group decides and that decision is mostly taken by the religious leaders that are trusted in that community or somehow are legally in power which may not be the same.

Gambling is one of those things that could be from banned to actually being ok as "God" may "bless with luck his chosen".

[coinerer]

I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk
Is there any concept of Halal Casino  
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

Casino is casino it is always haram for muslims. Casino is a form of gambling and Muslim religion never considers gambling as halal. I don't know how he calls casino halal and how he found halal casino. They seem like complete scams. I am really shocked by this   From what I know of Islam I would never believe that casinos could ever be halal

[pawanjain]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

Very well said mate. The fact is that there are many people who portrays certain quotes from their religion and convey it's meaning in a different form.
They completely change the actual meaning behind the context of the quote and interpret wrong information for their own benefits.
As mentioned in the video in OP, one sin shouldn't be the gateway to other sins. People should educate themselves and understand what their religion truly convey.
Each religion has it's own beauty and beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

[Yatsan]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

Very well said mate. The fact is that there are many people who portrays certain quotes from their religion and convey it's meaning in a different form.
They completely change the actual meaning behind the context of the quote and interpret wrong information for their own benefits.
As mentioned in the video in OP, one sin shouldn't be the gateway to other sins. People should educate themselves and understand what their religion truly convey.
Each religion has it's own beauty and beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

Religion and personal beliefs should be separrated from this activity. Most of the people here in this industry belongs to a religion and culture but why are we still here if the concept itself of gambling is in contrast with the teachings of a religion? Simply because we are not linking these two concepts and which is why words associated to a religion should not also be mentioned in any way especially for personal gain 'coz you are simply fooling yourself and making fun of other's tradition and culture. Let gambling be gambling, that's it and no other colors of polictics and religious beliefs.

For sure few people would only fall in this scheme. Also, they should be sensitive enough to know it in a single glance. Let us not make the inage of this industry worse.

[jostorres]

Did you not watch the video yourself before posting it here? Because if you do, he explains everything very clearly, and at no point in the video, he says anything about a halal casino. What he talked about in the video about casinos was that there are some regions where you can get halal food and even praying places inside the casinos, so some people say that when you are gambling, you are already sinful so you shouldn't care about halal food or praying as well.

So he explains that it is a very wrong concept where a person thinks that if he is committing one sin, he should commit other sins too but one should at least try to reduce the sins they are committing. So even if a person is gambling, he should eat food that is haram or should skip his prayers.

And because he has done something haram, it doesn't mean he can't do something halal. He has to do many halal things to do less haram. It takes time until eventually he can get enlightenment from God, who can make him aware of halal and haram. He can also understand that what he has been doing until now is still doing many things that are haram, so he has to stop doing what is haram and start doing halal things. And that is an effort to reduce the sins he has committed.

That is exactly what Mufti Menk is trying to explain in the video. He says that a casino providing halal food or a place for prayer is not a bad thing at all because if a Muslim is gambling at that casino, he might also offer his prayers on time and we are no one to actually judge someone based on his actions because that who will judge them has the ability to see through their heart and mind and understand what they do and what they want to do.

A person who is committing a sin or something that is forbidden by their religion, doesn't need to think that if they are committing one sin, there is no use in doing things that will earn them virtues because it is not our job to decide that but we just need to make sure that we are doing more and more good things.

[chigo]

Just watch the video and let me know the views about it.

Dear OP,

I know you are a Muslim. This thread's title and the content do not match at all. I watched the video as well. The person did not say anything about the halal casino there. He just said that some casino players are Muslim, and those casinos have a dedicated place for them to pray. A Casino has a dedicated place for prayer that does not make it halal.

I don't know why you decided to use such a title, but it's misleading people, especially non-muslims who did not even watch the video. They might think we are trying to make it Halal or the person in Video tried to make it Halal. I would request you to change the title of this thread.

I think there is no problem with the title of this topic because discussion of the concept of halal gambling will never be accepted at all, I also watched the video and for now all religions and races know and play gambling.

[milewilda]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

Very well said mate. The fact is that there are many people who portrays certain quotes from their religion and convey it's meaning in a different form.
They completely change the actual meaning behind the context of the quote and interpret wrong information for their own benefits.
As mentioned in the video in OP, one sin shouldn't be the gateway to other sins. People should educate themselves and understand what their religion truly convey.
Each religion has it's own beauty and beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

Religion and personal beliefs should be separrated from this activity. Most of the people here in this industry belongs to a religion and culture but why are we still here if the concept itself of gambling is in contrast with the teachings of a religion? Simply because we are not linking these two concepts and which is why words associated to a religion should not also be mentioned in any way especially for personal gain 'coz you are simply fooling yourself and making fun of other's tradition and culture. Let gambling be gambling, that's it and no other colors of polictics and religious beliefs.

For sure few people would only fall in this scheme. Also, they should be sensitive enough to know it in a single glance. Let us not make the inage of this industry worse.

I did make out some search if Gambling is really that allowed or prohibited on Muslims and turns out that it was indeed prohibited.

According to the Quran, Muslims are forbidden to gamble. However, there are casinos in countries where Islam is the predominant religion, and there are numerous other countries throughout the world with casinos that focus their marketing strategies on attracting gamers from Muslim-majority countries.Source link

Totally contradictory? It wasnt allowed but theres casinos that had been built out with those muslim countries? How about on havingthis halal casino which
there are really that exemptions on which muslims are allowed or able to play? Going against your religious beliefs then it would really be your own choice and since not all would really be that strictly be
following with those and with the easy access today then it is really just too easy to gamble.

[serjent05]

I did make out some search if Gambling is really that allowed or prohibited on Muslims and turns out that it was indeed prohibited.

According to the Quran, Muslims are forbidden to gamble. However, there are casinos in countries where Islam is the predominant religion, and there are numerous other countries throughout the world with casinos that focus their marketing strategies on attracting gamers from Muslim-majority countries.Source link

Totally contradictory? It wasnt allowed but theres casinos that had been built out with those muslim countries? How about on havingthis halal casino which
there are really that exemptions on which muslims are allowed or able to play? Going against your religious beliefs then it would really be your own choice and since not all would really be that strictly be
following with those and with the easy access today then it is really just too easy to gamble.

This show how partial the government is in terms of profitability just like having a casino in Muslim countries.  Although there is a separation of state in religion but I do not know if it also applies in Muslim-dominated countries. 

If there is an exemption rule about a Muslim playing in a Halal casino, this is fully contrary to the Islamic belief that gambling is a sin and I think this will create a huge argument between the firm believer of the Islamic religion and those Muslims who intend to consent their way of gambling.  Since gambling is a sin for Islamic religion, there is no way that the existence of Halal Casino will be approved by the Islamic religious leaders.

[komisariatku]

Casino is casino it is always haram for muslims. Casino is a form of gambling and Muslim religion never considers gambling as halal. I don't know how he calls casino halal and how he found halal casino. They seem like complete scams. I am really shocked by this   From what I know of Islam I would never believe that casinos could ever be halal

Yes that's right. Islam prohibits the practice of gambling and all forms related to gambling. I think most religions have a concept like that, prohibiting gambling. Even so, many religious people carry out gambling activities. That's their choice and I don't think it needs to be related to religion itself. In my opinion, promoting casinos with the "halal casino" model is something wrong. They created controversy for themselves and I think that's a very bad idea

If they keep doing that I think there will be demonstrations from the Islamic community, and that will cause their casinos to close.

[Z_MBFM]

Casino is casino it is always haram for muslims. Casino is a form of gambling and Muslim religion never considers gambling as halal. I don't know how he calls casino halal and how he found halal casino. They seem like complete scams. I am really shocked by this   From what I know of Islam I would never believe that casinos could ever be halal

Yes that's right. Islam prohibits the practice of gambling and all forms related to gambling. I think most religions have a concept like that, prohibiting gambling. Even so, many religious people carry out gambling activities. That's their choice and I don't think it needs to be related to religion itself. In my opinion, promoting casinos with the "halal casino" model is something wrong. They created controversy for themselves and I think that's a very bad idea

If they keep doing that I think there will be demonstrations from the Islamic community, and that will cause their casinos to close.

I am a Muslim and I have always known that Islam never supports gambling and every casino is gambling. It somehow belittles Islam. It is a forum where all kinds of discussion and work are done together. It doesn't matter who belongs to which religion but everyone should respect everyone's religion. I think this topic is disrespecting Islam so it is better to lock this topic. As this is not an official announcement threat of any casino, so i think there is no reason to discuss it further here.

[pawanjain]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

Very well said mate. The fact is that there are many people who portrays certain quotes from their religion and convey it's meaning in a different form.
They completely change the actual meaning behind the context of the quote and interpret wrong information for their own benefits.
As mentioned in the video in OP, one sin shouldn't be the gateway to other sins. People should educate themselves and understand what their religion truly convey.
Each religion has it's own beauty and beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

Religion and personal beliefs should be separrated from this activity. Most of the people here in this industry belongs to a religion and culture but why are we still here if the concept itself of gambling is in contrast with the teachings of a religion? Simply because we are not linking these two concepts and which is why words associated to a religion should not also be mentioned in any way especially for personal gain 'coz you are simply fooling yourself and making fun of other's tradition and culture. Let gambling be gambling, that's it and no other colors of polictics and religious beliefs.

For sure few people would only fall in this scheme. Also, they should be sensitive enough to know it in a single glance. Let us not make the inage of this industry worse.

I did make out some search if Gambling is really that allowed or prohibited on Muslims and turns out that it was indeed prohibited.

According to the Quran, Muslims are forbidden to gamble. However, there are casinos in countries where Islam is the predominant religion, and there are numerous other countries throughout the world with casinos that focus their marketing strategies on attracting gamers from Muslim-majority countries.Source link

Totally contradictory? It wasnt allowed but theres casinos that had been built out with those muslim countries? How about on havingthis halal casino which
there are really that exemptions on which muslims are allowed or able to play? Going against your religious beliefs then it would really be your own choice and since not all would really be that strictly be
following with those and with the easy access today then it is really just too easy to gamble.

It's nothing new. There are religions which prohibit doing certain things yet there are some people from the religion who still do it.
For example eating non-veg food is prohibited in a religion yet there are people who still eat it.
I guess same goes here too. Even though gambling is prohibited for Muslims yet there will be some people gambling.

[qwertyup23]

It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

I'm not a muslim and don't consider gambling a sin but I believe that you shouldn't knowingly commit the same sin every day even if you pray and do something good right after commiting that sin.

I agree with your statement.

From what I have heard and learned, gambling is absolutely prohibited under the Islamic rules and regulations. According to them, Allah has forbidden gambling and it is considered as a sin. Seeing a Muslim working around and circumventing such is somehow displeasing to see but I guess they have their own discussion about it.

Though this may be the case, a concept of a "Halal" casino is potentially bound to fail. Imagine, naming a gambling casino in a Muslim term definitely spark red flags on it. I doubt that Muslims and other people would even attempt to try this without going against their beliefs.

[masulum]

Still no sense at all if they pray and still commit a sin after they play on a what so called halal casino and I don't really get the point about trying to rise up a same like concept since at the end of the day gambling still consider as a big sin on their religion. That's why I have huge respect to our muslim brothers since they usually follow what is prohibited to them and also their sacrifices to follow what is good on their religion and their beliefs.

"Halal Casino" makes this an inconvenient thing. Some of us will definitely have a different assessment of this. I personally do not agree with using Halal Casino, but for advertising it can be fine, as long as it does not intend to offend religion. And, a Muslim is not prohibited from entering/visiting the casino, the prohibition (religious context) applies when he comes and gambles, but we know that gamble can do by anyone. Maybe, it would be more respectful if it didn't use the word "Halal", even though it contains halal food and a prayer place at the Casino for Muslim gamblers.

[fullhdpixel]

Well, if something goes too deep with this then it is not surprising. It's better not to practice or touch or get into the boundaries of beliefs that are against gambling and religion.

But as what others have said, this is not for real and the video maker did a good job for making everyone curious if there's one really in existence and as well as with the help of OP.

I wonder if something like that exists for real, will the leaders of the Islam will sue the developers of it.

I have a lot of respect for Mufti Menk and I know that he is a great scholar with a very vast knowledge and experience of the religion that he preaches and he is a humble and good person. However, I know and all of us know how YouTube basically works and how people make clickbait titles and thumbnails so that people watch their videos and get more views and engagements with the video they've posted. I'm sure it's done by his team and not himself.

Getting back to the topic, there cannot be a halal casino at all even if Muslim scholars or leaders of Islam don't sue the creators or anything, there is basically no concept like that because in gambling, you need to make bets, and win money, and that is haram in Islam no matter how it's done.

[BitcoinPanther]

Well, if something goes too deep with this then it is not surprising. It's better not to practice or touch or get into the boundaries of beliefs that are against gambling and religion.

But as what others have said, this is not for real and the video maker did a good job for making everyone curious if there's one really in existence and as well as with the help of OP.

I wonder if something like that exists for real, will the leaders of the Islam will sue the developers of it.

I have a lot of respect for Mufti Menk and I know that he is a great scholar with a very vast knowledge and experience of the religion that he preaches and he is a humble and good person. However, I know and all of us know how YouTube basically works and how people make clickbait titles and thumbnails so that people watch their videos and get more views and engagements with the video they've posted. I'm sure it's done by his team and not himself.

I do not believe that he has no knowledge about his team's doing, besides as the speaker of the said stream, I am sure that his team has his go signal in posting such stuff.  Aside from that the explanation itself is done by him and not by his team.  the title and the concept somehow connect since he is explaining that it is better to have 1 sin than committing more like when a person is gambling, that is one sin, eating non halal food, another sin, and missing prayers when it is time to pray, another sin is being lessen by a casino offering Halal food and  place for prayer. 

Getting back to the topic, there cannot be a halal casino at all even if Muslim scholars or leaders of Islam don't sue the creators or anything, there is basically no concept like that because in gambling, you need to make bets, and win money, and that is haram in Islam no matter how it's done.

Obviously because for Islamic religion gambling is haram and once haram, it cannot be Halal.

[ethereumhunter]

That is exactly what Mufti Menk is trying to explain in the video. He says that a casino providing halal food or a place for prayer is not a bad thing at all because if a Muslim is gambling at that casino, he might also offer his prayers on time and we are no one to actually judge someone based on his actions because that who will judge them has the ability to see through their heart and mind and understand what they do and what they want to do.

A person who is committing a sin or something that is forbidden by their religion, doesn't need to think that if they are committing one sin, there is no use in doing things that will earn them virtues because it is not our job to decide that but we just need to make sure that we are doing more and more good things.

We can only see someone from the outside, so there will be incorrect perceptions, especially if we can't understand the cause. We also may not be able to say it is a sin because God only knows it is a sin. We as ordinary humans, can only try to carry out what God commands us to do. And because we are humans, we cannot always be strong in facing temptation, which is why humans often commit sins without realizing it. But as long as he still wants to do good, that means he still wants to ask for forgiveness from God and even though he still sins, it is up to God what the outcome will be.

[LDL]

Still no sense at all if they pray and still commit a sin after they play on a what so called halal casino and I don't really get the point about trying to rise up a same like concept since at the end of the day gambling still consider as a big sin on their religion. That's why I have huge respect to our muslim brothers since they usually follow what is prohibited to them and also their sacrifices to follow what is good on their religion and their beliefs.

"Halal Casino" makes this an inconvenient thing. Some of us will definitely have a different assessment of this. I personally do not agree with using Halal Casino, but for advertising it can be fine, as long as it does not intend to offend religion. And, a Muslim is not prohibited from entering/visiting the casino, the prohibition (religious context) applies when he comes and gambles, but we know that gamble can do by anyone. Maybe, it would be more respectful if it didn't use the word "Halal", even though it contains halal food and a prayer place at the Casino for Muslim gamblers.

In fact casino cannot be halal for Muslims in principle because it can never be recognized as halal by fatwa. Those of us who are living our lives by checking halal and haram according to the path shown by the Creator and the Holy Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, will never accept casinos as halal. Since casino is already prohibited by God's rules and guidance and is a bad sin, we Muslims can never recognize it as halal.
But if a mufti goes to recognize it as halal then it must be rejected.
In the early days of Islam, people indulged in gambling and casinos, and at that time Muslim followers fought against gambling and casinos and worked hard to bring those who indulged in it to the right path. Had it been halal by Islamic Shariah, the Muslim followers would not have declared war against it in the early days.

[noormcs5]

That is exactly what Mufti Menk is trying to explain in the video. He says that a casino providing halal food or a place for prayer is not a bad thing at all because if a Muslim is gambling at that casino, he might also offer his prayers on time and we are no one to actually judge someone based on his actions because that who will judge them has the ability to see through their heart and mind and understand what they do and what they want to do.

A person who is committing a sin or something that is forbidden by their religion, doesn't need to think that if they are committing one sin, there is no use in doing things that will earn them virtues because it is not our job to decide that but we just need to make sure that we are doing more and more good things.

We can only see someone from the outside, so there will be incorrect perceptions, especially if we can't understand the cause. We also may not be able to say it is a sin because God only knows it is a sin. We as ordinary humans, can only try to carry out what God commands us to do. And because we are humans, we cannot always be strong in facing temptation, which is why humans often commit sins without realizing it. But as long as he still wants to do good, that means he still wants to ask for forgiveness from God and even though he still sins, it is up to God what the outcome will be.

Don't you think that these people are trying to present things in such a way that gambling looks legit for every religion? Only the people who belong to certain religions can tell what exactly the religion says about gambling ?

For instance, only the Muslims know what exactly their religious stance is about gambling. Similarly, Christians know about their belief and Hindus have their own belief about gambling. Every person should first check what his religion says about gambling and only then should decide whether gambling is permissible in their religion or not.

[Blitzboy]

That is exactly what Mufti Menk is trying to explain in the video. He says that a casino providing halal food or a place for prayer is not a bad thing at all because if a Muslim is gambling at that casino, he might also offer his prayers on time and we are no one to actually judge someone based on his actions because that who will judge them has the ability to see through their heart and mind and understand what they do and what they want to do.

A person who is committing a sin or something that is forbidden by their religion, doesn't need to think that if they are committing one sin, there is no use in doing things that will earn them virtues because it is not our job to decide that but we just need to make sure that we are doing more and more good things.

We can only see someone from the outside, so there will be incorrect perceptions, especially if we can't understand the cause. We also may not be able to say it is a sin because God only knows it is a sin. We as ordinary humans, can only try to carry out what God commands us to do. And because we are humans, we cannot always be strong in facing temptation, which is why humans often commit sins without realizing it. But as long as he still wants to do good, that means he still wants to ask for forgiveness from God and even though he still sins, it is up to God what the outcome will be.

You know, its fascinating how much weight humans place on external perceptions. We would all be millionaires, after all, if our opinions were a form of money. Leaving that aside, you've touched on a fundamental idea: comprehending the causes of human behavior. It's similar to entering a casino. If you witness someone placing significant bets, you might assume that they are another risky gambler. Who's to say, though? Maybe they've set aside money for gaming, and they're staying well within their means.

We frequently refer to gambling as a game of chance, but isnt life similar to gambling in many ways? Every deed, even good deeds and sins, is a gamble. And while some people think a superior being is watching and judging, others think self-accountability is more important. The common idea, however, whether you're in a church or a casino, is knowing your limits, asking for forgiveness when you violate them, and trying to improve. Dont you think so?

[Webetcoins]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

Just like someone who does a lot of research before making an investment so that they don't lose money and be sure that their investment is in the right place, one should do the same when it comes to religion and things and teachings about the religion that they follow. There can always be good and bad preachers in a religion, one might say one thing and another say a different thing, and this will confuse a lot of people about who is right and who is wrong.

In such situations, if a person has some interest in knowing the reality, they should do their own research about that thing, they should read the correct books themselves and ask different people that they know have a lot of knowledge about the religion they are following so that they can give them the information they are looking for.

[mirakal]

/// but also an obvious attempt of trying to justify something that they should not be doing.

It's true that what is wrong should not be justified or distorted. I am not a Muslim, but I believe that the teachings from the church and the Bible have specific meanings and should not be interpreted differently. Not everyone is highly educated, which is why a straightforward interpretation can be easily understood. What would happen if actions that were originally declared as sins were justified as 'okay'? 'Okay' can be subjective and may not always align with what is right or wrong. I think there should be clear distinctions between right and wrong.

Muslims have always been devoted to their own rules and tradition, that is why it’s rare to them breaking their rules and justifying those negative over positive actions. But let’s face the reality that these new generation Muslims have been more trying to distort things what has been established. Gambling is always not allowed for Muslims but look at them now, a lot of casinos are actually seen with Muslim gamblers and it’s like they have started to change their rules for their own convenience, even if gambling is a big sin in their religion.

[Bd officer]

Muslims have always been devoted to their own rules and tradition, that is why it’s rare to them breaking their rules and justifying those negative over positive actions. But let’s face the reality that these new generation Muslims have been more trying to distort things what has been established. Gambling is always not allowed for Muslims but look at them now, a lot of casinos are actually seen with Muslim gamblers and it’s like they have started to change their rules for their own convenience, even if gambling is a big sin in their religion.

You are right, but those who know that gambling is prohibited in Islam, yet those who gamble are not really Muslims. Because of some opportunistic people this is the case today, a true Muslim can never be addicted to gambling. People were not so addicted to gambling in the past when there were no phones, laptops or computers. But nowadays everyone has a laptop computer and now everyone can play gambling at home. In the past, Muslims were not so addicted to gambling, your point is true that many Muslims of the new generation have become addicted to gambling. I think next generation Muslims will be more addicted to gambling. So it is the responsibility of every Muslim parent to keep their children away from gambling.

[DYING_S0UL]

Gambling & Halal?  

Those two words doesn't go together brother. It is strictly forbidden in Islam. It's like saying Bismillah before ( means "In the name of God" ) eating pork or drinking wine (any kind of alcohol or pork is strictly forbidden to consume). You may use alcohol for medical or other purpose but can't consume it.  

There is no such think as Halal Gambling or Halal Alcohol or Halal Pork. Forbidden means forbidden no exception.

[bayu7adi]

Gambling & Halal?  

Those two words doesn't go together brother. It is strictly forbidden in Islam. It's like saying Bismillah before ( means "In the name of God" ) eating pork or drinking wine (any kind of alcohol or pork is strictly forbidden to consume). You may use alcohol for medical or other purpose but can't consume it.  

There is no such think as Halal Gambling or Halal Alcohol or Halal Pork. Forbidden means forbidden no exception.

Have you not watched the video yet, or are you responding based solely on the title? There is no religious sanction for gambling in the teachings of Islam, but as humans, sometimes we also must respect others who seek to do good.

Everyone is not free from sin, but in my view, it is wrong for someone to prevent others from doing good even within the confines of a casino.

The notion of a casino offering halal food or a dedicated place of worship for Muslim individuals may indeed sound unconventional. However, at the very least, when someone still holds firm to the principles of their faith, they should be entitled to worship rights even in an environment filled with sin.

[HelliumZ]

It sounds to me that they're trying to work around their own beliefs which is just weird to say the least.

I'm not a muslim and don't consider gambling a sin but I believe that you shouldn't knowingly commit the same sin every day even if you pray and do something good right after commiting that sin.

It is true that we as Muslims constantly commit sins worse than gambling and we do not care about those sins. Just as praying five times as a Muslim is obligatory, if we miss any prayer without reason, then we have committed a serious sin. So I promise not to commit all those major sins without looking at gambling.

[DYING_S0UL]

Gambling & Halal?  

Those two words doesn't go together brother. It is strictly forbidden in Islam. It's like saying Bismillah before ( means "In the name of God" ) eating pork or drinking wine (any kind of alcohol or pork is strictly forbidden to consume). You may use alcohol for medical or other purpose but can't consume it.  

There is no such think as Halal Gambling or Halal Alcohol or Halal Pork. Forbidden means forbidden no exception.

Have you not watched the video yet, or are you responding based solely on the title? There is no religious sanction for gambling in the teachings of Islam, but as humans, sometimes we also must respect others who seek to do good.

Everyone is not free from sin, but in my view, it is wrong for someone to prevent others from doing good even within the confines of a casino.

The notion of a casino offering halal food or a dedicated place of worship for Muslim individuals may indeed sound unconventional. However, at the very least, when someone still holds firm to the principles of their faith, they should be entitled to worship rights even in an environment filled with sin.

Yes brother I have seen the video but I have posted solely on my own. I am not discouraging others nor preventing anyone from doing good. I honestly respect others and I respect their opinions.

But as a Muslim, I must say what I believe, when it comes to my religion. If one of my brother makes a sin or mistake it is my duty to correct him. Yes nobody is free of sin, even I. But I try to be as good as possible.

As the Mufti said, It's about the first step. Even if you are not entirely correct you are somehow correct. And with time you will get there. May one day In Sha Allah we get there.  

[ethereumhunter]

Don't you think that these people are trying to present things in such a way that gambling looks legit for every religion? Only the people who belong to certain religions can tell what exactly the religion says about gambling ?

For instance, only the Muslims know what exactly their religious stance is about gambling. Similarly, Christians know about their belief and Hindus have their own belief about gambling. Every person should first check what his religion says about gambling and only then should decide whether gambling is permissible in their religion or not.

Yes, they try various interesting concepts that make ordinary people think it is valid for every religion. If they wanted to think about it, they would find that it is still haram for their religion and should not try it. Often, people's understanding is twisted incoherently to confuse them about what their religion teaches, which has been happening for a long time. And this is what makes many people of the same religion often have different opinions because they get this knowledge from different people.

People should do what you say to know that gambling is prohibited in their religion and that they will not want to go near gambling. But, because there are differences in understanding, many people cannot think clearly because they have received a lot of information that may not be correct.

You know, its fascinating how much weight humans place on external perceptions. We would all be millionaires, after all, if our opinions were a form of money. Leaving that aside, you've touched on a fundamental idea: comprehending the causes of human behavior. It's similar to entering a casino. If you witness someone placing significant bets, you might assume that they are another risky gambler. Who's to say, though? Maybe they've set aside money for gaming, and they're staying well within their means.

We frequently refer to gambling as a game of chance, but isnt life similar to gambling in many ways? Every deed, even good deeds and sins, is a gamble. And while some people think a superior being is watching and judging, others think self-accountability is more important. The common idea, however, whether you're in a church or a casino, is knowing your limits, asking for forgiveness when you violate them, and trying to improve. Dont you think so?

If they can stay within their limits, that is very good because they will not exceed their limits just because they want to chase victory and can control their gambling activities well. But that happens because we can only judge what we see without knowing what is implied, which often becomes a misunderstanding and causes us to be in trouble. We make things more complicated because there are many considerations in our minds.

Yes, life is also a gambling or game of chance. But some people might reject it if someone said something like that because they feel they are struggling hard to get through every journey in life. And that's true. We also can't immediately blame people who think like that because maybe they have different thoughts from us. We can only get through each day well and try to be better. And that's what we are, humans.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Though this may be the case, a concept of a "Halal" casino is potentially bound to fail. Imagine, naming a gambling casino in a Muslim term definitely spark red flags on it. I doubt that Muslims and other people would even attempt to try this without going against their beliefs.

If you see any business started with the name of religion and their religion forbids it, it's 100% scam. They are just using the name of the religion to get attention and misguide people. The halal casino is not possible, nor the video mentioned in the OP is about the halal casinos. The title is 100% misleading, and I requested OP to change it in my previous post.

They might use the name as Halal casino so they can attract Muslims to play in their casino. The Truth is it's Haram in Islam and practicing Mulism won't play there because if someone do business with the name of their religion, it's a trap.

[Apocollapse]

No need to find a halal casino if someone want to gamble, a normal casino is same. After all it's back to your belief and what you think is right, if you think gambling is haram, just avoid to gamble.

They might use the name as Halal casino so they can attract Muslims to play in their casino. The Truth is it's Haram in Islam and practicing Mulism won't play there because if someone do business with the name of their religion, it's a trap.

Not really, conventional bank is haram in Islam, but if the bank is using Islamic name e.g. sharia and then they claimed to not offering interest rate, actually it's legal. Do you want to say Sharia bank is haram? you will get mocked and bullied by Muslims

[masulum]

In fact casino cannot be halal for Muslims in principle because it can never be recognized as halal by fatwa. Those of us who are living our lives by checking halal and haram according to the path shown by the Creator and the Holy Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, will never accept casinos as halal. Since casino is already prohibited by God's rules and guidance and is a bad sin, we Muslims can never recognize it as halal.
But if a mufti goes to recognize it as halal then it must be rejected.
In the early days of Islam, people indulged in gambling and casinos, and at that time Muslim followers fought against gambling and casinos and worked hard to bring those who indulged in it to the right path. Had it been halal by Islamic Shariah, the Muslim followers would not have declared war against it in the early days.

Maybe my knowledge is too low, but what I know, ^CMIIW, Casinos are places, all places can be visited by Muslims, but gambling is an action, this action is forbidden (haram). You can come to church as a Muslim, but you cannot join in worship following what Christians do because doing this, is haram. Likewise with the casino. Because a casino is a place, Muslims can come, but they cannot gamble that is the fact. Once again, a lot of Muslims also doing gambling, even me have an experience with gambling. However, using the word Halal makes people think that this is a blasphemy against Islam. For me, that's not right, we don't know what it really means (the reason casino owner using Halal name). Using the word Halal for the wrong thing, that's why I said that I myself do not agree with the use of that word.

[Strongkored]

I thought gambling is forbidden according to the Quran. This situation seems to be an attempt to make an exemption. I don't know if it's approved by other Muslim leaders. When you mention gambling, it should be automatically considered forbidden.

This pertains to religion; I am not Muslim. We would like to hear from our Muslim brothers here whether they would agree to gambling at a Halal Casino.

So how about eating pork? Is there some kind of Halal Pork, or something?

I tried watching the video for a few moments, and the conclusion I came to was that he was not introducing Halal Casinos or saying that Casinos could be labeled halal if they complied with the rules of the Islamic religion, The title of the video only attracted gamblers to draw the wrong conclusion if didn't watch the video.
The cleric in the video (perhaps he could be called that) is explaining that when we commit a sin such as gambling at a casino, it doesn't mean we have to be involved in other sins such as eating haram food or not praying as required.
Congratulations, the title of the video has made many people interested in watching it, but actually the title and explanation are not appropriate in my opinion and this is normal because YouTubers often do that to get more attention for their content.

[Solosanz]

Congratulations, the title of the video has made many people interested in watching it, but actually the title and explanation are not appropriate in my opinion and this is normal because YouTubers often do that to get more attention for their content.

Yep many people are always get attracted with something stupid or don't make sense stuff, either it's a supporter or hater, it doesn't matter because they will make money as long as they watch the videos.

but gambling is an action, this action is forbidden (haram). Once again, a lot of Muslims also doing gambling, even me have an experience with gambling. However, using the word Halal makes people think that this is a blasphemy against Islam. For me, that's not right

So what's the conclusion?

I get what you're saying, gambling is haram, but you as someone who know gambling is haram still gamble and you think it's not right. Why? it's like contradict about your belief and your action.

[masulum]

So what's the conclusion?

I get what you're saying, gambling is haram, but you as someone who know gambling is haram still gamble and you think it's not right. Why? it's like contradict about your belief and your action.

Gambling is still gambling and it is haram, someone who gambles certainly has consequences against God. They know it's a sin (including me). There is nothing contradictory, We are adults, have our own minds, break God's rules, follow God's rules or whatever. That is the way of life a person chooses. I think this will be OOT, so I will make it simple, there is nothing to explains, I have own reason why I'm doing that. 

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Not really, conventional bank is haram in Islam, but if the bank is using Islamic name e.g. sharia and then they claimed to not offering interest rate, actually it's legal. Do you want to say Sharia bank is haram? you will get mocked and bullied by Muslims

Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

[Bd officer]

Not really, conventional bank is haram in Islam, but if the bank is using Islamic name e.g. sharia and then they claimed to not offering interest rate, actually it's legal. Do you want to say Sharia bank is haram? you will get mocked and bullied by Muslims

Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

You are right, I am also a Muslim and taking interest is forbidden in Islam according to Sharia. Some scholars argue that Islamic banks are halal. How can this be, I don't believe it, well, how is Islami Bank surviving? Of course, they receive interest on loans. According to some scholars, some people consider it halal to earn interest by keeping money in Islamic banks. Islamic banks, however, give interest on a certain amount of money. Islami bank is haram even if it is named according to Shariah.

[jostorres]

Casino is casino it is always haram for muslims. Casino is a form of gambling and Muslim religion never considers gambling as halal. I don't know how he calls casino halal and how he found halal casino. They seem like complete scams. I am really shocked by this   From what I know of Islam I would never believe that casinos could ever be halal

Why are you guys making assumptions from your own side without even watching the video? The thumbnail that you see on YouTube videos doesn't always show what the content is about and how that thumbnail is related to the concept being discussed within the video. You my friend didn't watch the video and I can clearly see that by reading your post because if you had spent about 2 to 3 minutes watching the video, you would understand what it is all about.

OP here asked a question related to the video that he shared which doesn't mean that he is saying there is such a concept in Islam, and if you watch the video, that scholar called Mufti Menk is explaining something else and he never said that there are halal casinos or there is halal gambling is Islam.

[maydna]

Not really, conventional bank is haram in Islam, but if the bank is using Islamic name e.g. sharia and then they claimed to not offering interest rate, actually it's legal. Do you want to say Sharia bank is haram? you will get mocked and bullied by Muslims

Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

You are right, I am also a Muslim and taking interest is forbidden in Islam according to Sharia. Some scholars argue that Islamic banks are halal. How can this be, I don't believe it, well, how is Islami Bank surviving? Of course, they receive interest on loans. According to some scholars, some people consider it halal to earn interest by keeping money in Islamic banks. Islamic banks, however, give interest on a certain amount of money. Islami bank is haram even if it is named according to Shariah.

Something that is haram is haram. Nothing can change it. And those who already know that it is haram will not approach it. But until now, many people still gamble, and they have their own reasons. We cannot prevent them from continuing to gamble even though it is clear in religion that gambling is haram or prohibited because they do it without coercion.

But for anyone who has sinned, he is still allowed to do good. Those who have committed sins must repent and not repeat sins, even though some still repeat other sins. And no perfect human can be clean from sin, and that is why we humans are required to repent to cleanse the sins we have committed.

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Something that is haram is haram. Nothing can change it. And those who already know that it is haram will not approach it. But until now, many people still gamble, and they have their own reasons. We cannot prevent them from continuing to gamble even though it is clear in religion that gambling is haram or prohibited because they do it without coercion.

But for anyone who has sinned, he is still allowed to do good. Those who have committed sins must repent and not repeat sins, even though some still repeat other sins. And no perfect human can be clean from sin, and that is why we humans are required to repent to cleanse the sins we have committed.

True. Haram is Haram. No matter what some Mufti or Alim say. It's not true that Muslims won't approach Haram. There are millions of Muslims earning Haram income and spending them in Haram place as well. Every Muslims does not care about Halal and Haram. Only Practicing Muslims care about Halal and Haram. For example, I am a Muslim and sometimes I gamble as well. Money won from gambling is Haram. yet sometimes I do it. No matter whatever excuse I give, those money are Haram and yet I am doing it. It's a sin in my religion. I always promise myself that I won't repeat these things but I end up doing it. Even though I am doing it, I won't say it's Halal. Because Haram is Haram. 

[Out of mind]

Something that is haram is haram. Nothing can change it. And those who already know that it is haram will not approach it. But until now, many people still gamble, and they have their own reasons. We cannot prevent them from continuing to gamble even though it is clear in religion that gambling is haram or prohibited because they do it without coercion.

But for anyone who has sinned, he is still allowed to do good. Those who have committed sins must repent and not repeat sins, even though some still repeat other sins. And no perfect human can be clean from sin, and that is why we humans are required to repent to cleanse the sins we have committed.

True. Haram is Haram. No matter what some Mufti or Alim say. It's not true that Muslims won't approach Haram. There are millions of Muslims earning Haram income and spending them in Haram place as well. Every Muslims does not care about Halal and Haram. Only Practicing Muslims care about Halal and Haram. For example, I am a Muslim and sometimes I gamble as well. Money won from gambling is Haram. yet sometimes I do it. No matter whatever excuse I give, those money are Haram and yet I am doing it. It's a sin in my religion. I always promise myself that I won't repeat these things but I end up doing it. Even though I am doing it, I won't say it's Halal. Because Haram is Haram. 

You are absolutely right haram can never be halal, we know that gambling and making money from staking is completely haram in the eyes of Islam. In every religion everyone sees bad deeds as haram, gambling is never halal, if any Huzur or Maulana says it is halal then it is completely wrong. Earnings from gambling are always haram if a person considers it haram then surely it will be a wrong decision for that person. I have also played such gambling many times lost bet win from there, but I will never call this gambling halal, always haram. But I will say that people who consider this gambling as halal can never be a good person because people who don't know about halal and haram can never make good decisions in future. Even if he donates the money he earns from gambling to a good cause, that money is considered haram.

[lixer]

Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

You are right, I am also a Muslim and taking interest is forbidden in Islam according to Sharia. Some scholars argue that Islamic banks are halal. How can this be, I don't believe it, well, how is Islami Bank surviving? Of course, they receive interest on loans. According to some scholars, some people consider it halal to earn interest by keeping money in Islamic banks. Islamic banks, however, give interest on a certain amount of money. Islami bank is haram even if it is named according to Shariah.

A Shariah-compliant bank doesn't issue interest-based loans to its customers, because as you said, taking interest is prohibited in Islam. If a bank calls themselves to be Shariah-compliant and is still dealing in interest through loans,, they are big liars, and someone who practices religion and doesn't want to get involved should never use such a bank or take a loan from them because it is not just about the words but it is all about the actions that are taken.

So, someone who follows Islam religion and also want to take a loan from a bank, they need to make sure that they find a bank that gives them an interest-free loan where once they repay the whole amount, they are free from the loan and would not be asked to pay anything extra on top of that.

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A Shariah-compliant bank doesn't issue interest-based loans to its customers, because as you said, taking interest is prohibited in Islam. If a bank calls themselves to be Shariah-compliant and is still dealing in interest through loans,, they are big liars, and someone who practices religion and doesn't want to get involved should never use such a bank or take a loan from them because it is not just about the words but it is all about the actions that are taken.

So, someone who follows Islam religion and also want to take a loan from a bank, they need to make sure that they find a bank that gives them an interest-free loan where once they repay the whole amount, they are free from the loan and would not be asked to pay anything extra on top of that.

If banks do not charge interest on loans, the complete banking sector will be destroyed. How they will make money without charging interest on loans? The transaction fees, account maintenance fees and other fees are not enough money to run a bank because the expense of a bank is huge. Their main income comes from loan interest.

No matter what Islami banks or Sharia banks say, they are charging money for the loan which is interest. They don't call it interest directly. They named it as service charge which is interest. I hope you understand my point. Anyways, this thread is about Halal casino which is impossible.

[BALIK]

Haram is haram. There is no other excuse. Taking interest in return for the money lent is not allowed. No matter what Sharia bank or Islami bank calls it. Most of them call it as service charge, or whatever, it's haram. I am Muslim myself and I know it's Haram. If some bullies me because of that, I will take that. In case they can teach me something new.

If someone open a bar a of vodka in the name of Islam, it won't become halam vodka. If people say Bismillah before they drink vodka, it won't become a halal drink. Real practicing Muslims won't debate regarding these things. They will say I said what I had to. No need to spread Fitna.

You are right, I am also a Muslim and taking interest is forbidden in Islam according to Sharia. Some scholars argue that Islamic banks are halal. How can this be, I don't believe it, well, how is Islami Bank surviving? Of course, they receive interest on loans. According to some scholars, some people consider it halal to earn interest by keeping money in Islamic banks. Islamic banks, however, give interest on a certain amount of money. Islami bank is haram even if it is named according to Shariah.

A Shariah-compliant bank doesn't issue interest-based loans to its customers, because as you said, taking interest is prohibited in Islam. If a bank calls themselves to be Shariah-compliant and is still dealing in interest through loans,, they are big liars, and someone who practices religion and doesn't want to get involved should never use such a bank or take a loan from them because it is not just about the words but it is all about the actions that are taken.

So, someone who follows Islam religion and also want to take a loan from a bank, they need to make sure that they find a bank that gives them an interest-free loan where once they repay the whole amount, they are free from the loan and would not be asked to pay anything extra on top of that.

Nowadays, I think the evil spirit is even confused with what Muslims are doing.. lol  . They are looking for halal food in casinos. They are saying they are going to build halal casinos when they clearly know that interest/usury/riba is strictly prohibited in Islam. I understand what Mufti Menk was saying. Just because if a person is committing a sin does not mean that he can commit any sin that he likes at that particular time. This is happening because most teams have gone away from their holy book.

Let’s be honest, even though banks who call themselves, Islamic banks or Islami bank etc are not out of usury/interest. The economy of the whole world runs on interest-rate now. One of the most powerful countries in the world, America is built on interest and they are running the world now. So how do you think any bank can call themselves Islami bank right now?

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Nowadays, I think the evil spirit is even confused with what Muslims are doing.. lol  . They are looking for halal food in casinos. They are saying they are going to build halal casinos when they clearly know that interest/usury/riba is strictly prohibited in Islam.

I guess you are right. I have heard that Iblish (The evil) cannot go outside during Ramadan. Iblis is the evil who encourages humans to do wrong things. Then why do people do bad things during Ramadan? The Iblis is locked; who encourages them to do bad things? Actually, Humans are already one step ahead of the evil spirit. I can relate to what you mean, and I agree with that.

Let’s be honest, even though banks who call themselves, Islamic banks or Islami bank etc are not out of usury/interest. The economy of the whole world runs on interest-rate now. One of the most powerful countries in the world, America is built on interest and they are running the world now. So how do you think any bank can call themselves Islami bank right now?

Precisely, this is what I tried to explain in my previous post. The banks cannot run without taking interest as it's the main income source of banks. If someone drinks alcohol, saying it's Islamic alcohol, it won't become halal for Muslims. Practicing Muslims should avoid taking and giving interest if they care about it.

[UmerIdrees]

scholar called Mufti Menk is explaining something else and he never said that there are halal casinos or there is halal gambling is Islam.

Yes, there would never be a Halal casino is Islam. Those who watched the video knows that he is explaining things a bit differently.

Anyway, we have had enough of the discussion on this and by now everyone has clear their thoughts about it.

I am locking this topic now.