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September 02, 2023, 06:25:27 PM
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I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  Huh
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.
I feel concerned that some Islamic scholars have changed religious regulations based on their own opinions or reviewed something but did not relate it to the basic Islamic religious regulations that have been established, whoever says casinos are halal in Islam are a heretical group. Several other Islamic scholars in Zimbabwe must immediately correct this person's misguided opinion so that the problem must be straightened out according to Islamic rules.

All regulations in any religion must be implemented correctly and never change, replace or revise religious regulations based on personal opinion because this will cause conflict problems between religious communities.
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September 02, 2023, 08:15:10 PM
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I was just browsing YouTube and found a video NEW | Halal Casino? - Mufti Menk

Is there any concept of Halal Casino  Huh
By the way Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk is an Islamic Scholar from Zimbabwe and also he is leading the fatwa department in that country.
I feel concerned that some Islamic scholars have changed religious regulations based on their own opinions or reviewed something but did not relate it to the basic Islamic religious regulations that have been established, whoever says casinos are halal in Islam are a heretical group. Several other Islamic scholars in Zimbabwe must immediately correct this person's misguided opinion so that the problem can be straightened out according to Islamic rules.

All regulations in any religion must be implemented correctly and never change, replace or revise religious regulations based on personal opinion because this will cause conflict problems between religious communities.
There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.

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September 02, 2023, 09:17:27 PM
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There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.
The Islamic based countries surely follow the islamic rules for gambling,according to the religion gambling was not the acceptable one.So I was confused about this Halal gambling.This seems like the gambling getting some marketing tactics to the gambling and to involve the Muslim community to use this type of gambling.Playing the gambling is based on the individual as compared to the religion.So some of my Muslim friends use to play the gambling without knowing to their own community people.When the Islamic religion cross this ban,then my friends will play the gambling without any hide and seek.

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September 02, 2023, 09:27:16 PM
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There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.
The Islamic based countries surely follow the islamic rules for gambling,according to the religion gambling was not the acceptable one.So I was confused about this Halal gambling.This seems like the gambling getting some marketing tactics to the gambling and to involve the Muslim community to use this type of gambling.Playing the gambling is based on the individual as compared to the religion.So some of my Muslim friends use to play the gambling without knowing to their own community people.When the Islamic religion cross this ban,then my friends will play the gambling without any hide and seek.

This is obviously a marketing strategy targeting the Muslim community. Gambling is against their religion and belief so even if there were Muslim organizations that allow this, I'm sure that there would still be conflicts regarding their principles.
It's their tactic to attract gamblers especially the Islamic countries which is clearly against their religion because I don't think it's ideal to drag religions into gambling.
The Muslim community has a high respect for their religion and it's something that we should respect as well. I don't think it's a good idea to involve religion just to attract more players.
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September 02, 2023, 09:48:13 PM
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There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.
The Islamic based countries surely follow the islamic rules for gambling,according to the religion gambling was not the acceptable one.So I was confused about this Halal gambling.This seems like the gambling getting some marketing tactics to the gambling and to involve the Muslim community to use this type of gambling.Playing the gambling is based on the individual as compared to the religion.So some of my Muslim friends use to play the gambling without knowing to their own community people.When the Islamic religion cross this ban,then my friends will play the gambling without any hide and seek.

It is true that this kind of approach is more of a Marketing strategy where the casino aims to target the Muslim's psychology making them think that it is better to sin one time than two or three times.  The concept of Halal Casino targets Muslim players that can't stop themselves from gambling, and cater their need such as Halal approved food and the place for prayers. 

This is like, if Muslims can't stop themselves from gambling then why not minimize the sin they are committing by serving them food according to Islamic belief and at the same time give them a place for prayers when the time comes that the need of prayer arises.
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September 02, 2023, 11:15:04 PM
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There is no doubt that religion should be given the utmost place in the society and every religious principle should be followed strictly to bring it implemented scholars have the right to change the content of the holy books,  so I agree with you on the fact that having individuals ditching out they personal opinions on sensitive religious matters cause a lot of concern for the society.

But then what the ops stated in the video is somehow right and probable when it comes to individual judgemental mindset when it comes to religion and holiness plus sin.
The Islamic based countries surely follow the islamic rules for gambling,according to the religion gambling was not the acceptable one.So I was confused about this Halal gambling.This seems like the gambling getting some marketing tactics to the gambling and to involve the Muslim community to use this type of gambling.Playing the gambling is based on the individual as compared to the religion.So some of my Muslim friends use to play the gambling without knowing to their own community people.When the Islamic religion cross this ban,then my friends will play the gambling without any hide and seek.
In this regard I have some Muslim friends who said about gambling that it is totally forbidden in their religion. Their religion never accepts anything like this. Those who interpret it positively would be mistaken. But even though many Muslims know it is up to them to go to a casino or gamble. No one can get any action and many people play these games secretly. As a result, those people cannot be identified. But if it depends on the religion then it is a completely prohibited act.

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September 03, 2023, 06:52:29 AM
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What I see there is that they used the Halal approved because they know that most Muslims will not have a problem if they see that a casino is halal connected. And this is a way for them to establish a Muslim community that will enter the casino,  maybe their main target is also people who are not Muslims.

It seems to be part of their marketing strategy,  it's like a trick that is not directly like that, but the result will be gambling in the end. If that's the case, it can be said that the strategy they came up with is good, in my opinion.

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September 03, 2023, 07:24:19 AM
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From the Muslim colleagues I have in my work I know that this can't be the truth and that scholar should not be a good one if he is offering the concept of such casino where Muslims will be allowed to play.I know though that some Muslims even from countries like Saudi Arabia or other countries gamble as I have seen Arabic names in Stake chat and a lot of them,maybe the idea of that scholar is to switch these players to that casino in order to get the benefits themselves,to get the money spending there in their casino as they play anyway so maybe that is why.

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September 03, 2023, 07:49:31 AM
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As a Muslim I can never accept gambling as halal. Gambling has been declared haram or forbidden by an Islamic organization and management. Many people who work with me are involved in bad activities like gambling but I never agree to spend time in gambling or casino. As far as I know those who spend time in gambling cause chaos in their family and marital life. Many people I have met have made it big on gambling and are now living with poverty in their families. So it is never possible to accept gambling as halal because gambling is responsible for causing all the problems.

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September 03, 2023, 08:19:15 AM
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What I see there is that they used the Halal approved because they know that most Muslims will not have a problem if they see that a casino is halal connected. And this is a way for them to establish a Muslim community that will enter the casino,  maybe their main target is also people who are not Muslims.

It seems to be part of their marketing strategy,  it's like a trick that is not directly like that, but the result will be gambling in the end. If that's the case, it can be said that the strategy they came up with is good, in my opinion.
The Muslim community will not go near gambling, let alone enter a casino. Whatever is in the casino environment, meaning inside the casino, will probably never be visited by Muslim people. They know that if they enter the casino, even if it's on the lower floor, they can easily be tempted and will end up seeing what's on the top floor where the casino is.

Their strategy is good but won't work for the Muslim community because they already understand the difference between Halal and Haram. They will never approach something like Haram just because of strategy or whatever. So the video won't get any response from people who already understand.

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September 03, 2023, 08:54:58 AM
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As a Muslim I can never accept gambling as halal. Gambling has been declared haram or forbidden by an Islamic organization and management. Many people who work with me are involved in bad activities like gambling but I never agree to spend time in gambling or casino. As far as I know those who spend time in gambling cause chaos in their family and marital life. Many people I have met have made it big on gambling and are now living with poverty in their families. So it is never possible to accept gambling as halal because gambling is responsible for causing all the problems.

You do the right thing since gambling in any form is really a sin to islam and heavily discourage to participate on said religion. But some other didn't follow and its given since every person is prone to get baited on temptation but as long as you are fine then doesn't get bothered the this is really good for you. I also don't think muslim community will adopt this idea since for sure muslim leaders will discourage those people actively participating on this activity.

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September 03, 2023, 09:31:49 AM
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You do the right thing since gambling in any form is really a sin to islam and heavily discourage to participate on said religion. But some other didn't follow and its given since every person is prone to get baited on temptation but as long as you are fine then doesn't get bothered the this is really good for you. I also don't think muslim community will adopt this idea since for sure muslim leaders will discourage those people actively participating on this activity.
If someone wants to follow his religion completely and avoid what is forbidden in his religion then that is his own opinion. I have seen many of my Muslim friends gambling regularly, they gamble even after knowing that gambling is forbidden in their religion. Those who gamble do not pay attention to the rules of religion, they gamble as they wish.

Since many Muslims gamble, it is an open secret, meaning that there are many Muslim gamblers in every country who gamble openly or secretly. Any step can be taken to bring them together and this Mufti may have thought about this concept. Now it remains to be seen what others think about this and whether they will implement this concept.

I have seen this video before and posted in this thread that the video is very different from the title.

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September 03, 2023, 10:06:58 AM
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The Muslim community will not go near gambling, let alone enter a casino. Whatever is in the casino environment, meaning inside the casino, will probably never be visited by Muslim people. They know that if they enter the casino, even if it's on the lower floor, they can easily be tempted and will end up seeing what's on the top floor where the casino is.

Their strategy is good but won't work for the Muslim community because they already understand the difference between Halal and Haram. They will never approach something like Haram just because of strategy or whatever. So the video won't get any response from people who already understand.

How do you know that those who follow Islam do not commit haram. I know a few friends who follow Islam do gamble and occasionally consume alcohol. Not everyone in Islam follows it truly. They do it in hiding and they don't regret their doing. That is one such reality which many Muslim might ignore here. The word casino itself is haram, if someone wants to disguise it as halal then it is the choice of those following the religion to either allow it or ignore it. In general such stupidity cannot be ignored and those preaching it cannot justify the reality. 
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Gambling is always haram in Islam, there's no excuse to say gambling is halal, period.

How do you know that those who follow Islam do not commit haram. I know a few friends who follow Islam do gamble and occasionally consume alcohol. Not everyone in Islam follows it truly. They do it in hiding and they don't regret their doing. That is one such reality which many Muslim might ignore here. The word casino itself is haram, if someone wants to disguise it as halal then it is the choice of those following the religion to either allow it or ignore it. In general such stupidity cannot be ignored and those preaching it cannot justify the reality. 
It means they're not a real Muslim, but they're get pressured by their parent to join Islam religion. A real Muslim will never have a boyfriend or girlfriend, but most of them broke this rule. Gambling? alcohol? having sex? those are normal except eating a pork, that's completely HARAM Tongue

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September 03, 2023, 02:42:33 PM
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I am not a Muslim myself, but to the best of my knowledge, based on their Qur'an, gambling is considered a sin. Consequently, it is generally expected that Muslims should refrain from engaging in it. Muslims are renowned for their strong religious beliefs and typically follow the teachings of the Qur'an closely. Given this, I believe that the concept of a 'Halal casino' would likely encounter significant opposition from the Muslim community.
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September 03, 2023, 08:02:11 PM
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Gambling is always haram in Islam, there's no excuse to say gambling is halal, period.
You are right. Cheesy

It means they're not a real Muslim, but they're get pressured by their parent to join Islam religion. A real Muslim will never have a boyfriend or girlfriend, but most of them broke this rule. Gambling? alcohol? having sex? those are normal except eating a pork, that's completely HARAM Tongue
I want to laugh at this, but there's also some truth to what I feel in my own area. Lol

The majority here are Muslims
People dating? There is
People gambling and drinking alcohol? That's a lot
Having sex and getting pregnant out of wedlock? There are

When an artist eats pork, it's Haram and he's on the news and in jail.

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September 03, 2023, 08:10:20 PM
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Gambling is always haram in Islam, there's no excuse to say gambling is halal, period.
You are right. Cheesy

It means they're not a real Muslim, but they're get pressured by their parent to join Islam religion. A real Muslim will never have a boyfriend or girlfriend, but most of them broke this rule. Gambling? alcohol? having sex? those are normal except eating a pork, that's completely HARAM Tongue
I want to laugh at this, but there's also some truth to what I feel in my own area. Lol

The majority here are Muslims
People dating? There is
People gambling and drinking alcohol? That's a lot
Having sex and getting pregnant out of wedlock? There are

When an artist eats pork, it's Haram and he's on the news and in jail.

Pressured by their parents to join Islam?  There is no way you can be a Christian when you're born in a Muslim country. Religion is the basis of the kids' traits of course they will teach Islaam to their kids. Same with Christian parents teaching their kids of Jesus' teachings.

But gambling being Haram is normal to Muslims. It's what they teach for their kids to grow up not having to play their fate on games. Whether they play casino in hiding, it's their business though. Pretty sure they gamble too but not in close doors.


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I am not a Muslim myself, but to the best of my knowledge, based on their Qur'an, gambling is considered a sin. Consequently, it is generally expected that Muslims should refrain from engaging in it. Muslims are renowned for their strong religious beliefs and typically follow the teachings of the Qur'an closely. Given this, I believe that the concept of a 'Halal casino' would likely encounter significant opposition from the Muslim community.

It will really have strong opposition to those who do not gamble in the casino.  But for those who are frequent visitor of a casino, this concept is a good deal for them, since they don't have to worry about where to get their food and the place for prayers when it is time for their daily prayers.

The proposition of this idea simply tells that not all Muslims follow all their Islamic belief same goes for Christians and other religions. However I agree that a casino will never be Halal as long as the Islamic teaching sees gambling as haram.  But many businessmen want to exploit this kind of loophole (stated in the video) and create a twisted idea that can confuse those who has a weaker understanding of the religion's teachings.

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It seems to be part of their marketing strategy,  it's like a trick that is not directly like that, but the result will be gambling in the end. If that's the case, it can be said that the strategy they came up with is good, in my opinion.

The title might be only a click bait strategy in getting more viewers. It's a common thing to see that someone who puts controversial title to attack others to watch his video.

I have stopped to watch it since the video is not related to the click bait title used by the creator of this video.

The concept of halal casino is just a clickbait. Nothing more than it.


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September 04, 2023, 02:25:28 AM
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Well, if something goes too deep with this then it is not surprising. It's better not to practice or touch or get into the boundaries of beliefs that are against gambling and religion.

But as what others have said, this is not for real and the video maker did a good job for making everyone curious if there's one really in existence and as well as with the help of OP.

I wonder if something like that exists for real, will the leaders of the Islam will sue the developers of it.

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