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August 28, 2023, 03:42:18 AM
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So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
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August 28, 2023, 04:18:08 AM
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As bitcoin becomes more established and the price has grown since it was first traded at less than $0.01 it is normal that we have periods of low volatility. This tends to happen in companies as well, small caps are more volatile than when they have been around for years, have established themselves and their price has risen sufficiently, when they become large caps.

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??[/i][/b]

I would say that in the time until halving we should have a rise to the $40,000 area or thereabouts, with ups and downs, and after halving we should go much higher. We are in the calm before the storm.

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August 28, 2023, 04:30:14 AM
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What do you mean? This has happened in the past. You might just not feel like this happened before because of recency bias.

Anyway, if you want to feel more volatility, you can either trade altcoins(down the ranks if you want MORE volatility), or trade the majors with leverage. Simple.

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August 28, 2023, 04:41:41 AM
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What do you mean? This has happened in the past. You might just not feel like this happened before because of recency bias.

Anyway, if you want to feel more volatility, you can either trade altcoins(down the ranks if you want MORE volatility), or trade the majors with leverage. Simple.
Really ? when in past ? if you go back to the last bear run the price ranged between 3000-4000 for a long period of time. But thats equivalent to 30% . Have u seen such moves in recent days ?? I dont think so. Its just that BTC is more established now and the volatility is gone.
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August 28, 2023, 04:43:27 AM
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I think the volatility was lower in 2015. Most of the volatility instruments for bitcoin don’t go that far so you can’t check but the volatility was awful in 2015. Basically barely any moves. Was mostly miners dumping their mined coins and nothing else.

2019 was also bad but not as bad as 2015 or right now. Why is it so flat? Who knows. Maybe it’s summer or maybe people just lost interest in crypto. Wait until October and see what happens then.

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August 28, 2023, 06:57:28 AM
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I think the volatility was lower in 2015. Most of the volatility instruments for bitcoin don’t go that far so you can’t check but the volatility was awful in 2015. Basically barely any moves. Was mostly miners dumping their mined coins and nothing else.

2019 was also bad but not as bad as 2015 or right now. Why is it so flat? Who knows. Maybe it’s summer or maybe people just lost interest in crypto. Wait until October and see what happens then.
No clue about 2015 as i was not active. Probably summer could be the reason and if there is high volatility in october then we know for sure that summer is the reason. 2018-19 bear run was slow right but not like these days. gotta have high hopes from october then Smiley
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August 28, 2023, 07:46:06 AM
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You don't need to worry about the current dump op, all you need to do in this season is to ensure you exercise patience in your holding so that you will not miss it when you start trading your coins in the market. I don't think this is the first time for crypto to dump in the market, and it will not be the last, which are part of some of the things crypto traders must experience before they can swim in profits making when the price of Bitcoin is pumping in the market. Once you begin to see things like this in the crypto market, you don't need to panic in that period than to focus on the market to see what potential traders are doing at the moment because they don't trade when there is bearish season than to continue holding.

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August 28, 2023, 11:03:51 AM
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Now, it is different from a few years ago, when crypto has become increasingly popular and has attracted more people to use crypto for trading. That is what makes the movement or volatility of the crypto market unpredictable. I feel the same way when I see what's going on in the market, especially since the current market conditions have more coins to trade, making it difficult to analyze the coins.

And when the market gets to what it is now, it's not likely to go back to how it used to be but it's probably going to be wilder than it is now. So if you don't learn to analyze more, maybe you will find it difficult to profit from trading. Only by continuing to learn can we adapt to market movements.

But you shouldn't worry too much because you can still benefit from market volatility. For this reason, we are required to have better analytical skills than before.

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August 28, 2023, 11:48:24 AM
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I was also present for that period, and Bitcoin has settled in a price between $3,000 to $6,000 for a long time, so why is it happening now naturally if you take into account that we were at 16,000 levels several months ago and before that we were at levels of 30,000 for a period, including 20 A thousand again. The price can still regain an upward wave if we continue to stay above $26,000, and thus the door is still open to reach $40,000 before the end of the year. Over time, the volatility will decrease and the price will be more stable due to the high liquidity.

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August 28, 2023, 04:06:23 PM
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...What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same?? ..

This was the case earlier in the market, and always after such a lull, we saw an impulse exit from the flat. And you can be sure that this is exactly what will happen. That's just there is no certainty in which direction the momentum will be, so it's better to refrain from opening orders.

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August 28, 2023, 04:10:11 PM
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What do you mean? Since I entered this industry, there has been volatility in cryptocurrencies. Or maybe you mean that the volatility is more aggressive now compared to when it started in 2017. Is that what you mean?

So I don't see any problem with volatility, to be honest,  in fact, this is where any traders have the opportunity to buy or sell if they want to make a profit or sell to make a profit, and at the same time, with volatility, there are many losers and losses, especially if there is a lack of trading knowledge.



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August 28, 2023, 04:40:02 PM
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You don't need to worry about the current dump op, all you need to do in this season is to ensure you exercise patience in your holding so that you will not miss it when you start trading your coins in the market. I don't think this is the first time for crypto to dump in the market,

When the OP said he had been a trader for the past many years, I was surprised that he was now worrying about himself because of the current price of the market. I think bitcoin normally dumps and rises again, and investors have taken it as normal because we already believe that we will take any risk in our investment, so worrying about the current price is useless. As you said earlier, any investor who wants to gain a profit from his or her investment must have patience, as he needs his money back with even profits.

Besides, he said he is a trader, which by all means means a trader needs to take any risk that involves the fact that trading has a higher risk than investment either. However, maybe the reason the OP is worried is that he may have gone and invested the amount he could not afford to lose, and he saw that the price did not go up again. That's why he is worried, and by all means, I’m expecting a trader to be the one that can even endure the risk of crypto investment because they are doing the most high-risk thing in the crypto space.

So hopefully the price of bitcoin will go higher than the current one because, as you can see, early this year, the price of bitcoin was at $30k and came back to $29k; now it is at $26k, which means that this is just like something permanent happening in the market of cryptocurrencies that will continuously happen. All we need to do is continue holding our investments, and for those who wish to buy now when the time to sell comes, there is no need to even tell someone we are going to do that.
 

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August 28, 2023, 05:25:18 PM
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What do you mean? Since I entered this industry, there has been volatility in cryptocurrencies. Or maybe you mean that the volatility is more aggressive now compared to when it started in 2017. Is that what you mean?

So I don't see any problem with volatility, to be honest,  in fact, this is where any traders have the opportunity to buy or sell if they want to make a profit or sell to make a profit, and at the same time, with volatility, there are many losers and losses, especially if there is a lack of trading knowledge.

I meant what i said. There is no volatility like 2017 anymore. BTC used to move 10-20% in a week and it used to happen almost 3 weeks in a month. and now it hardly moves in a month. you might not see it as a problem, it was just a basic narrative that BTC has changed its wave length. there are less liquidity grabs ofcourse which leads to less people loosing money. but at the same time there is less movement in price.
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August 28, 2023, 05:35:41 PM
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You don't need to worry about the current dump op, all you need to do in this season is to ensure you exercise patience in your holding so that you will not miss it when you start trading your coins in the market. I don't think this is the first time for crypto to dump in the market,

When the OP said he had been a trader for the past many years, I was surprised that he was now worrying about himself because of the current price of the market. I think bitcoin normally dumps and rises again, and investors have taken it as normal because we already believe that we will take any risk in our investment, so worrying about the current price is useless. As you said earlier, any investor who wants to gain a profit from his or her investment must have patience, as he needs his money back with even profits.

Besides, he said he is a trader, which by all means means a trader needs to take any risk that involves the fact that trading has a higher risk than investment either. However, maybe the reason the OP is worried is that he may have gone and invested the amount he could not afford to lose, and he saw that the price did not go up again. That's why he is worried, and by all means, I’m expecting a trader to be the one that can even endure the risk of crypto investment because they are doing the most high-risk thing in the crypto space.

So hopefully the price of bitcoin will go higher than the current one because, as you can see, early this year, the price of bitcoin was at $30k and came back to $29k; now it is at $26k, which means that this is just like something permanent happening in the market of cryptocurrencies that will continuously happen. All we need to do is continue holding our investments, and for those who wish to buy now when the time to sell comes, there is no need to even tell someone we are going to do that.
 
Buddy i dont mean whatever you said. All i meant was there is no volatility anymore and i asked if you all felt too. There is no mention of any of my position or any of my trade emotion. whatever you said really made no sense for me. pump dump and whatever really, from 29 to 26. do you even consider 10% a dump in crypto ? no i dont. so dont worry about my position and my emotions. you might be a senior member on the forum here but as far as i can read your comment i believe i have far enough better knowledge n risk management than you Wink no hard feelings
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August 28, 2023, 05:43:40 PM
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On the shorter time frame, I can agree with you that the volatility seems like disappeared and the market looks stable, and in traders' emotions, it's like a boring timeline haha. The crypto market is fully out of track on the volatility At that point I think the market is more volatile as compared to history. A few days back I was reading a few glass node analyses and decreasing on-chain activity indicating the same thing.

I think we are feeling it like that can have another reason as the zone we are going through is always boring throughout the lifeline of Bitcoin this pressured accumulation zone. The maximum of the Bitcoin supply from the on-chain activity seems Illiquid and because the most of supply is on hold market is behaving like that, As soon as more liquid supply is in the market again we will explore the volatile market aspect.

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August 28, 2023, 05:49:40 PM
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What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??[/i][/b]
The trading volume and the amount of liquidity is the answer to your question. There’s a higher demand now comapred before while the liquidity on the order book is much thicker that makes sell and buy order doesn’t result to a much volatile market compared before.

The existence of institutional traders that holds huge amount of crypto assets in exchange to their fiat money that is now injected on exchange liquidity makes the crypto trading less volatile. You will experience same liquidity as before if this whales removes there existing open order and start to take profit.

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August 28, 2023, 06:33:31 PM
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On the shorter time frame, I can agree with you that the volatility seems like disappeared and the market looks stable, and in traders' emotions, it's like a boring timeline haha. The crypto market is fully out of track on the volatility At that point I think the market is more volatile as compared to history. A few days back I was reading a few glass node analyses and decreasing on-chain activity indicating the same thing.

I think we are feeling it like that can have another reason as the zone we are going through is always boring throughout the lifeline of Bitcoin this pressured accumulation zone. The maximum of the Bitcoin supply from the on-chain activity seems Illiquid and because the most of supply is on hold market is behaving like that, As soon as more liquid supply is in the market again we will explore the volatile market aspect.
As far as the best reply i got here. so lets wait n watch in coming months. hope the fun begins soon Smiley
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August 29, 2023, 02:23:16 AM
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Market has volatility that is good for people who can take advantage of high volatility to get profit but it is nightmare for people who are greed when not needed and get loss when market moves very volatile.

As Warren Buffet said, "Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful." in his letter to the Shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. in 1986, you have two options to be smart or stupid investor. You decide what you do but the market does not care about you and what you do. It simply moves in its way and with manipulations from market makers, you can get profit or loss in the market and it totally depends on you.

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August 29, 2023, 03:15:17 AM
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What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
It's still the same for me, I think our volume right now on the market is really the reason why we are still volatile, it's still low.
It's like the same behavior during a bear market or bull market.

Just in case the bull market starts, it will behave the same especially when parabolic 2017-2018, the time we breached $19,00 which became an all-time high.

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August 29, 2023, 05:26:24 AM
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(....)
What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
It's still the same for me, I think our volume right now on the market is really the reason why we are still volatile, it's still low.
It's like the same behavior during a bear market or bull market.

Just in case the bull market starts, it will behave the same especially when parabolic 2017-2018, the time we breached $19,00 which became an all-time high.
well we gotta understand that chances of parabolic moves decreased when bitcoin becomes more n more popular. And i agree with you that its the same like any other bear run. but even in the past the markets moved little bit. now you see the charts there is hardly 1-2% in full week or a month. and suddenly just 1 day comes and it changes 10% but before it used to make moves 3-8% on daily basis..
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