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September 04, 2023, 09:47:35 PM
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So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.
What do you mean by low volatility? If you check the price of each crypto coin, it is still far from its ATH. Bitcoin: -62% from its ATH, ETH: -66%, BNB: -68%, XRP: -85%, ADA: -92%, EOS: -97%. LUNC: -100%. These are some examples of the crypto prices now, they are still trying to grow and come back to its ATH. If you count their best price and the current price, there is still too high gap. That's mean the volatility is very high, right? So, it doesn't makes sense if you judge there is a low of volatility in the market.

If the price of some crypto coins still consolidate or take a sideway phase for few months, that's because they follow the Bitcoin price trend. You must realize that the price of Bitcoin seems a bit slow to rise. After BTC price passed $30k few months ago, it dropped again below $30k because of some FUDs. It is difficult to return to above $30k because it is still many bad news spreading. So, we must understand if it is rather slow to move.

I think this situation also happened in past, right?


current price from the ATH has no link with volatility. you are saying BTC is -62% from the highs, because in a broader frame btc moves like this from always. high volatility is daily moves. in a single day candle btc used to turn 10% very frequently before. now it doesnt even more 1% on a daily candle. which is borind n bad for daily traders and scalpers. You ask any scalper if he is interested in this kind of market and he will always deny. -62% from ATH relates nothing here. it dropped 30% in just a single day when bear market started. that kind of volatility is missing these days. thats what i mean here
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September 04, 2023, 11:05:24 PM
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]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.

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September 04, 2023, 11:37:13 PM
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]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.
They should realize and trying out to compare on what are the prices or value that we do have now comparing on last years which we arent that blind on not to see about those gradual increase and showing up some
recovery.Although it is really just that normal that we would really be seeing tons of ups and downs which it is really just that default on this market. We cant really just have that one long green candle because this is really just that a newbie approach towards the price.We've been here on this market for how many years and to those who had been sitting around do already knows on how it do behaves. Volatility is the most common thing that we are facing on this market on which this is the sole reason on why we are making profits out of those movements which it would really be that depending on how you would be able to go with the flow.
Market is always been volatile and trying out to oppose on such movement will really be resulting into losses. You should really be that wise and would really be that smart in regarding with your entry and exits because this is the primary thing that you would really be concern about.Market we do have now have that year cycles on which its expected that there would be bearish and bullish sentiment and consolidation period on which you would be facing on.

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September 05, 2023, 07:52:48 AM
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]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.
everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.
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September 05, 2023, 12:55:16 PM
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Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.

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September 05, 2023, 04:23:00 PM
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Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
we all had that phase when trading felt like the biggest task and eventually with time and experience it becomes easy. market these days is really tough for intraday traders and scalpers.
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September 05, 2023, 04:31:51 PM
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everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.
Talking about the current slowdown of the crypto market is certainly due to many factors, such as the interest of investors to enter and some manipulations done by whales.

Saying it's worse than the previous year, it's just a matter of time. Seeing that the bitcoin trend is still sideways and continues to consolidate, the big bullrun will arrive when the Halving occurs.

That's what everyone is looking forward to the most, now it's just necessary to buy and hold and enjoy the benefits later.
I don't look at daily or weekly movements, I focus more on the long-term.

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September 05, 2023, 05:01:59 PM
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everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.
Talking about the current slowdown of the crypto market is certainly due to many factors, such as the interest of investors to enter and some manipulations done by whales.

Saying it's worse than the previous year, it's just a matter of time. Seeing that the bitcoin trend is still sideways and continues to consolidate, the big bullrun will arrive when the Halving occurs.

That's what everyone is looking forward to the most, now it's just necessary to buy and hold and enjoy the benefits later.
I don't look at daily or weekly movements, I focus more on the long-term.
well then this kind of market is exactly for investors like you. on the other hand market also has day traders and scalpers who are frustrated right now because of market slow down. long term investors would handle any kind of market as far as they are not buying the top and selling at the bottom.
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September 05, 2023, 05:19:32 PM
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Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
I think it's easy if you know what you are doing, but reaching that level is the hardest part, it may take as much as years before people could reach that level. Obviously people do have better chances of making a profit if they have been doing trading in other assets for some years and then come to bitcoin and start trading here, those people could start making profit quicker, but if you have never traded before then it will take some time.

I do agree that it should be something to  care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up wit ha good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.

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September 05, 2023, 06:29:42 PM
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well then this kind of market is exactly for investors like you. on the other hand market also has day traders and scalpers who are frustrated right now because of market slow down. long term investors would handle any kind of market as far as they are not buying the top and selling at the bottom.
It's perfect, because I also do DCA every week to keep adding to my assets and sell all three ATH targets.
Day traders who do not have sufficient knowledge and unstable emotional control will be more at risk.

That's the result of fast market movements for day traders.
I just need to relax for the long term, not to look at the chart continuously.

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I do agree that it should be something to care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.
Good results in a short time cannot be done easily, it takes a good learning of technical and fundamental analysis.
Profits can be made in any way, trading fast, or long-term investment.
The most important thing is not to hesitate, or panic, and to have a good strategy to apply.

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Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
I think it's easy if you know what you are doing, but reaching that level is the hardest part, it may take as much as years before people could reach that level. Obviously people do have better chances of making a profit if they have been doing trading in other assets for some years and then come to bitcoin and start trading here, those people could start making profit quicker, but if you have never traded before then it will take some time.

I do agree that it should be something to  care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up wit ha good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.
The important thing on here is that you shouldn't really be rushing up yourself on reaching out on a state which it cant be reached out on short time and with few experiences. Those people who are doing good are once newbies too and now and due to sufficient experience and knowledge then this is where they do make themselves to be that sustainable despite of this market volatility. It all matters about the knowledge you do have getting those things out of real experience which it did really involve some time and tons of trials and errors.

Market volatility is always been random or ever since this market had started on which there's no way on knowing on where prices could end up and shoot up or dump down. This what makes
traders do really challenged on how to know about those probable movements on which the price might able to reach on or would be going. Every year would really be having that corresponding movement which it might really be getting in line or would really be that the same on last years movements or not.It would really be entirely be depending on the market movement
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We know it depends on the demand of bitcoin. During that hype of the bitcoin, many people wanted to have this instead, so there's price action and the market so such volatile,, unlike this day after the ATH, people get take profit and lay low with their earnings and of course they know the possibility with this coming halving the graph already proved the history itself that every halving coming price goes down. People nows mindset is to wait for this and grab the buying opportunity at the lowest point.

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So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

nothing happened. It's bear market, wait till bull
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Periods of stagnation in the market are common as is swings. Observe the long term charts and you will realise that the yearly volatility is usually under 15% and thus I would not compare the market to be that volatile that it can be said to be non-volatile now. It rather remains in its own movement that is often exaggerated as too high or too low.

Overall I think the stagnant market will be a good time to buy at the low since it's much lower than all time highs. But a trader should keep both cash and Bitcoin at hand to face the upcoming bull or near market respectively. If the market remains stagnant, just observe and wait it out.
The fact that we are not volatile this year doesn't mean we weren't last year or won't be next year neither. The thing about volatility is that it happens time to time and that is why it should be considered different from other stuff. We should be considering this as a thing that needs to be something that changes one way or another and should be a bigger deal.

I hope that it could get to a point where we could just end up with a good result if we just put our mind into it. This is why volatility should not be expected at all moments, and I agree that stagnation is the most regular and common thing we can see on this market, it just happens all the time and should be normal and expected without a doubt.

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So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

nothing happened. It's bear market, wait till bull
please read the above comments. its not that easy thing to say Smiley
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So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


It's not a big deal, this has happened countless times, nobody want to lose both the bears and the bulls, everyone is taking caution to avoid been liquidated. If you observe carefully, you will notice that when the market is idle for about a week without any tangible moves, you will see a sudden spike upward  especially when the price stays above the support for some while and when the price shut up a candle, after sometime again, it will get nuke and shutdown another red candle to come back and sit in the previous support; this happened a lot of times when traders want to liquidate one another when there is not any news.

What I think about this low volatility is uncerntainty, when the bulls and the bears are unsure of the next news that will come out for bitcoin, the market tends to always behave like that for a while even upto weeks without any significant moves; I believe if there is good news or bad news, the market knows how to make moves naturally without forcing it to move.

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Personally, I think low volatility simply means that there is a significant reduction in trading volume, and this is very understanding when we consider the fact that we are in a bear market, coupled with the fact that Bitcoin has become a really expensive coin to buy for those who do not have very much money to invest, so those tiny monies are now shifting to some altcoins rather than Bitcoin like it always has been in the previous years, we can confirm this by the declining market dominance of Bitcoin, Ethereum and some other major altcoins..

With uncertainty in the entire crypto market currently, alot of people are either keeping their money in stable coins waiting for market to show some upward strength before they go in again, or they are shifting their investments to altcoins .

One thing certain after all is that, high volatility will return back to the market as soon as Bitcoin starts showing some positive signs of going up again .

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Personally, I think low volatility simply means that there is a significant reduction in trading volume, and this is very understanding when we consider the fact that we are in a bear market, coupled with the fact that Bitcoin has become a really expensive coin to buy for those who do not have very much money to invest, so those tiny monies are now shifting to some altcoins rather than Bitcoin like it always has been in the previous years, we can confirm this by the declining market dominance of Bitcoin, Ethereum and some other major altcoins..

Low volatility means there's low trading activities going on and this isn't just in the Bitcoin but also in altcoin market because all cryptocurency are getting affected by the bear market and not just the Bitcoin market. Altcoins are losing value more than Bitcoin therefore I don't think people are gaining more trust in altcoins by shifting their investment over there, bitcoin dominance is also increasing as more people are selling their altcoins to buy Bitcoin.

Bitcoin halving is coming so Bitcoin is gaining more popularity than altcoins, after the halving of Bitcoin reward and during the period everyone is assuming that the bull market will start people will start shifting attention to altcoins and that's so they can profit from altcoin.

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Personally, I think low volatility simply means that there is a significant reduction in trading volume, and this is very understanding when we consider the fact that we are in a bear market, coupled with the fact that Bitcoin has become a really expensive coin to buy for those who do not have very much money to invest, so those tiny monies are now shifting to some altcoins rather than Bitcoin like it always has been in the previous years, we can confirm this by the declining market dominance of Bitcoin, Ethereum and some other major altcoins..

With uncertainty in the entire crypto market currently, alot of people are either keeping their money in stable coins waiting for market to show some upward strength before they go in again, or they are shifting their investments to altcoins .

One thing certain after all is that, high volatility will return back to the market as soon as Bitcoin starts showing some positive signs of going up again .
yea could be one more reason. price action has always taken a huge part in trading volume. in the last bear market bitcoin was ranging between 3000-6000 and now if u see its almost 5x from that position. higher price can be one of the major reason of low volatility.
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Low volatility means there's low trading activities going on and this isn't just in the Bitcoin but also in altcoin market because all cryptocurency are getting affected by the bear market and not just the Bitcoin market. Altcoins are losing value more than Bitcoin therefore I don't think people are gaining more trust in altcoins by shifting their investment over there, bitcoin dominance is also increasing as more people are selling their altcoins to buy Bitcoin.

Bitcoin halving is coming so Bitcoin is gaining more popularity than altcoins, after the halving of Bitcoin reward and during the period everyone is assuming that the bull market will start people will start shifting attention to altcoins and that's so they can profit from altcoin.
It’s very strange to hear that now someone is selling their altcoins, what’s the point? If the idea is to sell altcoins and buy bitcoin, then this is also not the best idea now, as for altcoins, then we just need to wait for the altseason, I think that we will still have to wait out the fall and winter, and during this time altcoins may well lose 20 -30% in price. The bear market this year for altcoins is merciless, but perhaps those who are more patient will be able to make a good profit in the bull market.

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