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September 10, 2023, 12:47:34 PM
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Bitcoin halving is coming so Bitcoin is gaining more popularity than altcoins, after the halving of Bitcoin reward and during the period everyone is assuming that the bull market will start people will start shifting attention to altcoins and that's so they can profit from altcoin.

whether it happens to everyone or not, for those who are quite fanatical about Bitcoin, all they do is buy or trade Bitcoin in any market trend conditions.
Maybe in the past, some traders paid attention to the method you explained to get better profits. but now I just believe Bitcoin confidence is increasing and altcoins may be some to watch with a possible pump following the upcoming bull trend.

I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.



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September 10, 2023, 03:10:38 PM
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I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.

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September 12, 2023, 07:07:57 PM
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I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.
He basically meant he is holding up BTC and just keeping an eye for potential altcoins. Dont think he is a regular trader to catch market moves on a daily basis.
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September 12, 2023, 07:15:51 PM
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I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.
He basically meant he is holding up BTC and just keeping an eye for potential altcoins. Dont think he is a regular trader to catch market moves on a daily basis.
Each person does have different approach or handling when it comes into their portfolio on which this would really be the ff;

1. Having long term bags and accumulating Bitcoin solely
2. Having long term bag on BTC but making some partitions on making short trades on BTC
3. Long term/Moonbag hold of Alts
4. Short term trading with alts

Its always advisable that you should have at least that available funds which in case the market would really be making out some dumping movement then you could really be easily
be able to accumulate or having the chance on buying cheap and this would really be a huge advantage i should say compared to those who do have limited funds
but of course not everyone does have that kind of financial capability and this is the reason on why we are missing tons of opportunities that this market gives
but well this is really just that part on what you would really be able to experience on this market.

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September 15, 2023, 03:46:42 PM
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I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.
He basically meant he is holding up BTC and just keeping an eye for potential altcoins. Dont think he is a regular trader to catch market moves on a daily basis.
Each person does have different approach or handling when it comes into their portfolio on which this would really be the ff;

1. Having long term bags and accumulating Bitcoin solely
2. Having long term bag on BTC but making some partitions on making short trades on BTC
3. Long term/Moonbag hold of Alts
4. Short term trading with alts

Its always advisable that you should have at least that available funds which in case the market would really be making out some dumping movement then you could really be easily
be able to accumulate or having the chance on buying cheap and this would really be a huge advantage i should say compared to those who do have limited funds
but of course not everyone does have that kind of financial capability and this is the reason on why we are missing tons of opportunities that this market gives
but well this is really just that part on what you would really be able to experience on this market.
Agreed on the facts. Long term bags for BTC and potential alt coins is the best strategy in the market. I initially started as an investor in BTC and trust me that was the major profit i made without any headaches.
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September 15, 2023, 04:25:28 PM
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So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


Certainly, We all have witnessed decline in volatility within crypto currencies market, in particular when it comes to Bitcoin, which typically has a reputation for its extreme price swings. This decrease in price fluctuation can be explained by a variety of factors. One main contribution factor could be  involvement of financial institutions that has brought sense of maturity to the crypto currencies space. Additionally, regulatory bodies like SEC have also contributed to more stable environment. Furthermore, the prevailing market sentiment that seems to favor price consolidation, and external factors. such as the current condition of global economy can also exert influence on this trend.









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September 16, 2023, 08:18:23 AM
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Well, things are truly different this time.

Although there's still some glimpse of the past and trend and how the market moved but, things do change for the crypto market whether you're a trader, an investor or just a speculator.

And there is one thing for sure that we're going to see and that's another trend shall pass and people will be hyped again but what could that be?

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Certainly, We all have witnessed decline in volatility within crypto currencies market, in particular when it comes to Bitcoin, which typically has a reputation for its extreme price swings. This decrease in price fluctuation can be explained by a variety of factors.

One factor that we should look at is the market condition. Everything you said has contributed to the poor market condition but the factor that has affected the market more is the bear market condition that we are experiencing. If this was the bull market, all the other factors won't have mattered because the market would had still been getting money flowing in and the market would be giving investors and traders profits bit that's not happening because most individuals are scared.

When we're in the bull market, everything will return to normal as it was in 2021, we shouldn't be scared that the market will stay like this forever. After bitcoin halving, we'll begin to see market volume rising up as many individual starts accumulating bitcoin for the bull market.



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September 16, 2023, 12:05:27 PM
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Certainly, We all have witnessed decline in volatility within crypto currencies market, in particular when it comes to Bitcoin, which typically has a reputation for its extreme price swings. This decrease in price fluctuation can be explained by a variety of factors. One main contribution factor could be  involvement of financial institutions that has brought sense of maturity to the crypto currencies space. Additionally, regulatory bodies like SEC have also contributed to more stable environment. Furthermore, the prevailing market sentiment that seems to favor price consolidation, and external factors. such as the current condition of global economy can also exert influence on this trend.

You are right that the price of Bitcoin is feeling quite a boring position. The kind of volatility that Bitcoin is known for is quite invisible, but one thing that seems to be changing this time is that earlier if the price of Bitcoin fluctuated, it would have the same effect on the market. But this time if the price of Bitcoin goes down even a little bit. So the entire cryptocurrency market falls more, and if the price of Bitcoin rises significantly, all cryptos rise very little. Of course, there are various factors involved, the most influential of which is the dispute between the SEC and Binance


Also, external factors often affect the cryptocurrency market and any bad news can bring the market down. Apart from this, FTX has also been allowed by the court to sell its assets, which has put a lot of pressure on the cryptocurrency market and Bitcoin. Due to which there are risks of the market falling further. Well, the month of September has not been good for the cryptocurrency market from the beginning and often the market can fall here and a bearish trend can be seen. The FOMC meeting next week may also have an impact on the market. The Binance threat is not over yet and it may even create a market rumble. The SEC is claiming that Binance is not providing them with complete information,and this is affecting the market badly.

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September 16, 2023, 12:52:05 PM
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current price from the ATH has no link with volatility.
Why it has nothing to do with volatility? The volatility always has correlation with the price move.

https://www.binance.com/en/feed/post/1020057

high volatility is daily moves. in a single day candle btc used to turn 10% very frequently before. now it doesnt even more 1% on a daily candle.
Not everyday the price can have high volatility, sometimes there is sideways period. During this period, the price seems moving very slowly. It is what happening today.

which is borind n bad for daily traders and scalpers. You ask any scalper if he is interested in this kind of market and he will always deny.
If it looks difficult to take profits daily, why not stop it temporarily. We mustn't force ourselves to trade daily if the condition seems not very suitable for day trading.

-62% from ATH relates nothing here. it dropped 30% in just a single day when bear market started. that kind of volatility is missing these days. thats what i mean here
Do you think Bitcoin should be easily to drop around 30% in a single day during the bearish season? I don't think so. Drop around 30% is quite high, it should rarely happen. There must be a big news to trigger the price drop significantly. TBH, I expect there will no drop around 30% again until the next bullrun season.

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I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.

So far I have been quite successful in adding to the Bitcoin I hold. I actually have different allocations of Bitcoins that I hold and that I trade. for the ones I trade, I allocate a fixed amount. while I will withdraw the profits to a different wallet where I hold them.
Actually, I don't need to be afraid of the market situation, because I observe it. I'm not a day trader who has to push myself to make a profit. That doesn't mean I've never lost in trading. but I carefully choose the moment to trade.

I'm sure every trader or investor has their own approach when wanting to take a position. whether you want to buy or sell. I'm also not a professional trader. Sometimes I trade altcoins, but then again I prefer Bitcoin.



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September 16, 2023, 04:18:46 PM
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You know, regardless of what happened in the past and what is happening now, in my opinion, things are just going round and round. There is only innovation because of the technology that we are experiencing, so there is a change happening in the market regarding Bitcoin. I also think that we can no longer separate or remove the volatility of Bitcoin from the market because it is also the basis of trading for investors or holders so that they can also make money.

It's just that in these instances, the majority of the holders today are locked in positions due to the upcoming Bitcoin halving next year, and in just a few months, things will happen that for sure the community here does not expect. By the way, you know that Bitcoin is full of surprises.



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September 16, 2023, 09:59:19 PM
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Well, things are truly different this time.

Although there's still some glimpse of the past and trend and how the market moved but, things do change for the crypto market whether you're a trader, an investor or just a speculator.

And there is one thing for sure that we're going to see and that's another trend shall pass and people will be hyped again but what could that be?
People would really be never be able to deny on what are those things that happened on previous years on which they would really be always a fan on trying to reflect out and trying to see if there are some patterns which they could possibly be able to make use.Volatility is never been predictable in the first place, we might be able to see some similarities but doesnt mean that it would definitely happen in the future.This is why people would really be continuing on trying out to mix analysis basing up on fundamentals+ technical just for them to be able to have at least the idea on where prices could possibly be hit up.

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Since you are an old investor and have a lot of experience about your market. When you trade and invest, you know how profitable it will be, and you have a good idea of when the bear market will start. When you started trading, all the markets including Bitcoin were very volatile and dumping. You don't have to worry now that the market was dumping because it's already pumping more than ever and will change more in the future. As you are an old investor, and you need to be patient enough, you can trade profitably and earn profits. When you invest from bear market, you must wait till bull market and be patient so that you can get good profit from it.

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September 17, 2023, 06:24:32 PM
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Well, things are truly different this time.

Although there's still some glimpse of the past and trend and how the market moved but, things do change for the crypto market whether you're a trader, an investor or just a speculator.

And there is one thing for sure that we're going to see and that's another trend shall pass and people will be hyped again but what could that be?
People would really be never be able to deny on what are those things that happened on previous years on which they would really be always a fan on trying to reflect out and trying to see if there are some patterns which they could possibly be able to make use.Volatility is never been predictable in the first place, we might be able to see some similarities but doesnt mean that it would definitely happen in the future.This is why people would really be continuing on trying out to mix analysis basing up on fundamentals+ technical just for them to be able to have at least the idea on where prices could possibly be hit up.
Combining that two gives everyone the idea on how the market will react.

But as said that many of them won't be as accurate as always even if you put them with a lot of it for so many times. And this market is all about that, test and mixtures of strategies.

Since no one can be against with volatility but you have to do your own thing for you to take advantage or go along with it.

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September 17, 2023, 07:12:59 PM
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As a rule, a volatility contraction resembles a compressed spring. At any moment there can be a burst of activity and increased interest. The main thing is to be able to withstand the pause, and also try not to buy assets that have already increased in price. Decrease in volatility is also a period of careful preparation for active actions
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September 17, 2023, 09:33:35 PM
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It's just that in these instances, the majority of the holders today are locked in positions due to the upcoming Bitcoin halving next year, and in just a few months, things will happen that for sure the community here does not expect. By the way, you know that Bitcoin is full of surprises.
People had already learned how to hold, unlike before that is why the volatility trend has changed. But is see this gonna happen because people's mindsets and behaviors have gradually changed as well. Unfortunately, this is not good for day trading where they used to take benefit of the volatility of the market.  However, this is not the thing that makes us think that crypto has changed totally but in this time, it teaches us how to hold and become strong. Indeed, bull season will come but if we are impatient, selling can possibly done earlier.
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September 19, 2023, 08:10:20 PM
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Well, things are truly different this time.

Although there's still some glimpse of the past and trend and how the market moved but, things do change for the crypto market whether you're a trader, an investor or just a speculator.

And there is one thing for sure that we're going to see and that's another trend shall pass and people will be hyped again but what could that be?
As for me, I don't think there are many things that have changed. If it's about the volatility which seems low right now, I think this wasn't new but if I'm not mistaken, we already experienced the same scenario on the past. Maybe you guys only forget it, or some of you are not yet here in crypto. History does repeats itself and so as here in crypto.

This is why a lot of users are basing their analysis on it to possibly predict if what will be the value of cryptos later on. So many trends have already passed. Some are still there but they are not as hyped as before. Maybe some trends are obvious to occur but some are unexpected, and if what are those we shall only wait and see.



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September 19, 2023, 09:30:51 PM
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I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.
He basically meant he is holding up BTC and just keeping an eye for potential altcoins. Dont think he is a regular trader to catch market moves on a daily basis.
Each person does have different approach or handling when it comes into their portfolio on which this would really be the ff;

1. Having long term bags and accumulating Bitcoin solely
2. Having long term bag on BTC but making some partitions on making short trades on BTC
3. Long term/Moonbag hold of Alts
4. Short term trading with alts

Its always advisable that you should have at least that available funds which in case the market would really be making out some dumping movement then you could really be easily
be able to accumulate or having the chance on buying cheap and this would really be a huge advantage i should say compared to those who do have limited funds
but of course not everyone does have that kind of financial capability and this is the reason on why we are missing tons of opportunities that this market gives
but well this is really just that part on what you would really be able to experience on this market.
Agreed on the facts. Long term bags for BTC and potential alt coins is the best strategy in the market. I initially started as an investor in BTC and trust me that was the major profit i made without any headaches.
Wont really be having those headaches as long you do able to make yourself that limiting that investment because we know that there's no such thing about guarantee if we do speak about investment because risks would always be lying out with this thing where possible crashes and pumps could happen depending on the market demand. We know that crypto market is really that volatile and it would really be just that right on having that good approach even though its speculative but it would be ideal that making up some analysis would be always be having the advantage. Always set Plan B's because if you do find yourself not prepared then you would definitely get shocked on how this market moves. Also, dont make yourself stick out into that basic principle about relying into those past events on trying out to reflect on what would happen in the future.Its not
something that would make out assurance that it would happen in the present or in the future. This is why it would be always ideal on making yourself that fully aware on things
so that you wont really be that disappointed if ever things go south.

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September 19, 2023, 11:07:11 PM
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People had already learned how to hold, unlike before that is why the volatility trend has changed. But is see this gonna happen because people's mindsets and behaviors have gradually changed as well. Unfortunately, this is not good for day trading where they used to take benefit of the volatility of the market.  However, this is not the thing that makes us think that crypto has changed totally but in this time, it teaches us how to hold and become strong. Indeed, bull season will come but if we are impatient, selling can possibly done earlier.
Enduring and patiently holding on only applies to those who believe and are able to manage their emotions to achieve the ultimate goal at the price to be achieved.
See how the market is currently, experiencing a fairly long bearish period from Early August to September.

The price of bitcoin still continues to decline and makes some people panic will selling their holdings because they cannot stand or lack patience.

The bull season is just a matter of time and it will be owned by those who are able to survive the rigors of this bear market.
Having a reserve fund will give you the advantage to buy again.

We just need to prepare for the upcoming bull season, and collect more Bitcoin and altcoins that have potential in bullish times.
That will provide more and more benefits.

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