[Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12

[robelneo]

Casimero will treat it as a tune fight or preparation but for Oguni it is a big opportunity, They have their own mindset going to the fight, and honestly Casimero should not choose this kind of opponent there are bigger fish that will make his name shine after the fight, boxing experts will pick this fight as an easy fight Casimero and they expect and knew the outcome, he is relegated to second rate boxer with this kind of fight, because his last fight is not that impressive they have opted to go fo this kind of fighter.

I'm sure there's big money involved here, It has been a long time since Casimero tasted a huge paycheck and he needs to keep up to sustain himself and he'll fight as long as the price is right.

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[lionheart78]

Casimero will treat it as a tune fight or preparation but for Oguni it is a big opportunity, They have their own mindset going to the fight, and honestly Casimero should not choose this kind of opponent there are bigger fish that will make his name shine after the fight, boxing experts will pick this fight as an easy fight Casimero and they expect and knew the outcome, he is relegated to second rate boxer with this kind of fight, because his last fight is not that impressive they have opted to go fo this kind of fighter.

Looking at the statistics and activity of Oguni, I also think that this is a tune-up fight for Casimero for his future career title fight.  If he knocks out the Japanese fighter, it can probably give enough impression to consider him as one of the top contenders for a title fight.  The record of Oguni simply tells that this can be a walk in the park fight for Casimero unless it ends up in the hand of the judges that may possibly give Casimero a loss (Japanese judges tend to give a biased result and always favor their fighter) but hopefully, that will not happen.

I'm sure there's big money involved here, It has been a long time since Casimero tasted a huge paycheck and he needs to keep up to sustain himself and he'll fight as long as the price is right.

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

[inthelongrun]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

The Japanese fans are probably not cool with Johneriel Casimero calling their living legend a turtle. But still, Casimero is the main attraction here. He is actually promoted by a Japanese since bolting out of MP Promotions. Oguni is just a stay-busy fight but we're hoping Casimero delivers a good performance to bolster his reputation. Though Oguni was a former world champion, he quit fighting for 3 years already and then went for a return last year which ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent. At present, Oguni has been inactive for over a year now and he is fighting an active 3-division champion so this should be an easy win for Casimero.

Some are bashing Casimero's level of opponent but I'm just happy that he is making himself active. I am confident he will get his title shot next year so he better stay active and fit.

It's great to see Casimero keeping himself busy with his second fight this year. Hopefully, there's another one in store before the year concludes. While I wasn't aware that his opponent is a former champion, a glance at his record doesn't make it seem as impressive as Casimero's. Let's wait and see. I'm hoping Casimero will persist in calling out Inoue during post-fight interviews. Of course, this assumes he emerges victorious in this contest; otherwise, challenging Inoue would seem premature if he can't defeat Oguni.

Yes, at least Casimero is staying active rather than just waiting for a big fight that might make him rusty if it takes so long. Yukinori Oguni became the champion a long time ago. In 2016 he outboxed then-dangerous KO artist Yonatan Pena and took the IBF belt. Too bad though as he lost it in his first title defense.

A December return for Casimero is still possible but only if he makes an easy work on Oguni. But if Casimero sustains some cuts and spends a lot of energy in this fight then he needs at least a month of rest plus two months to train so that makes him only available in January of next year. Hopefully, we'll see Casimero winning easily because this is only a tune-up fight for him. 

[Japinat]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

The Japanese fans are probably not cool with Johneriel Casimero calling their living legend a turtle. But still, Casimero is the main attraction here. He is actually promoted by a Japanese since bolting out of MP Promotions. Oguni is just a stay-busy fight but we're hoping Casimero delivers a good performance to bolster his reputation. Though Oguni was a former world champion, he quit fighting for 3 years already and then went for a return last year which ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent. At present, Oguni has been inactive for over a year now and he is fighting an active 3-division champion so this should be an easy win for Casimero.

Some are bashing Casimero's level of opponent but I'm just happy that he is making himself active. I am confident he will get his title shot next year so he better stay active and fit.

It's great to see Casimero keeping himself busy with his second fight this year. Hopefully, there's another one in store before the year concludes. While I wasn't aware that his opponent is a former champion, a glance at his record doesn't make it seem as impressive as Casimero's. Let's wait and see. I'm hoping Casimero will persist in calling out Inoue during post-fight interviews. Of course, this assumes he emerges victorious in this contest; otherwise, challenging Inoue would seem premature if he can't defeat Oguni.

Yes, at least Casimero is staying active rather than just waiting for a big fight that might make him rusty if it takes so long. Yukinori Oguni became the champion a long time ago. In 2016 he outboxed then-dangerous KO artist Yonatan Pena and took the IBF belt. Too bad though as he lost it in his first title defense.

A December return for Casimero is still possible but only if he makes an easy work on Oguni. But if Casimero sustains some cuts and spends a lot of energy in this fight then he needs at least a month of rest plus two months to train so that makes him only available in January of next year. Hopefully, we'll see Casimero winning easily because this is only a tune-up fight for him. 

I guess that will suffice instead of not having some fights this year to keep him warm while waiting for the big fight that he wanted. But I couldn't help but think why Oguni and not someone else in the Top 5 of WBC rankings because that is what he needed and not a tune-up fight-like just to stay active. This will surely not please people because Oguni is not that famous even if he was once an IBF champion.

Regardless, I'm also hoping just like you guys, that Casimero can finish this fight without having serious damages on his side so that he can have another fight somewhere in December or early January.

[Hirose UK]

Johnriel Casimero is a professional boxer who has also become a boxing star for the Philippines in international competitions or world championships.
Johnriel Casimero also said in public that he would surprise everyone of course for his country the Philippines that he would again become world champion after the WBO world bantamweight belt which he held was stripped because of a violation of the BBBofC ban.
When looking at these two boxers there is still a chance for Johnriel Casimero to beat Yukinori Oguni and make a good debut in Treasure Boxing Promotions.

[bisdak40]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

[Maslate]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

For us, it might not be that big considering that we can compare this to some fights which are undoubtedly bigger as the arena itself can say that it will be a big fight but for the Japanese people, this is somehow a big fight for them because a one of their own will fight against John Riel Casimero who is also known as an executioner of Japanese boxers.

They might or will hope that maybe this Oguni can pull an upset against our own Casimero even if their boxer's credentials aren't that much.

[robelneo]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

Knowing Casimero he'll find a way to be on top again, MP promotions lately did not give him a decent fight or a title fight something Casimero deserves, Since he was stripped of the title, he never got a title shot from prestigious boxing organizations, this fight is not a challenging fight, can you imagine if after this fight there is an offer to fight Inoue in case he unified the title and move up to Super Bantamweight.
At some point, Inoue and Casimero's paths will cross so Casimero should have decent fights now in preparation for big opponents like Inoue, I hope after he disposes of Oguni he'll get the title shot he deserves.

[Sanitough]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

Knowing Casimero he'll find a way to be on top again, MP promotions lately did not give him a decent fight or a title fight something Casimero deserves, Since he was stripped of the title, he never got a title shot from prestigious boxing organizations, this fight is not a challenging fight, can you imagine if after this fight there is an offer to fight Inoue in case he unified the title and move up to Super Bantamweight.
At some point, Inoue and Casimero's paths will cross so Casimero should have decent fights now in preparation for big opponents like Inoue, I hope after he disposes of Oguni he'll get the title shot he deserves.

Fans would likely be more interested, and the fight could potentially outsell the Tapales vs. Inoue matchup, given the expected one-sided outcome of the latter. The anticipation of witnessing Inoue's victory over Tapales and Casimero's impressive performance against Oguni is building. However, these bouts might take place in the following year, possibly before the second quarter, allowing both fighters ample time to prepare.

It's important to note that Casimero's title being stripped isn't solely the fault of his promoter or anyone else. He must bear the consequences of his actions but should also remain steadfast in his pursuit of reclaiming a championship title.

[Kelvinid]

They might or will hope that maybe this Oguni can pull an upset against our own Casimero even if their boxer's credentials aren't that much.

If this scenario were to unfold, it might be wise for Casimero to consider retirement after the fight. This matchup is essentially a tune-up fight for him, and losing at this stage could be detrimental to his career. Casimero has been carefully cultivating a strong record to position himself for a future championship bout, possibly against Inoue. Losing this fight might jeopardize that opportunity. It's clear that he cannot afford to lose, given his aspirations and the strategic path he's been taking.

[goldkingcoiner]

I am not sure what happened that warranted Casimero being stripped of his WBO world bantamweight title in 2022. He supposedly violated some British BS ban on sauna use for reducing weight? This is the first time I have heard of such nonsense and to be honest, I think it was very unfair. I hope to see him becoming a world champion in spite of this. Oguni is going to be an obviously tough opponent and if Casimero loses this fight it will be a huge setback to him. He almost lost to Ryo Akaho but was saved by an overturned decision, which was very lucky. I do not expect him to be just as lucky this time, should he lose.

[Taskford]

They might or will hope that maybe this Oguni can pull an upset against our own Casimero even if their boxer's credentials aren't that much.

If this scenario were to unfold, it might be wise for Casimero to consider retirement after the fight. This matchup is essentially a tune-up fight for him, and losing at this stage could be detrimental to his career. Casimero has been carefully cultivating a strong record to position himself for a future championship bout, possibly against Inoue. Losing this fight might jeopardize that opportunity. It's clear that he cannot afford to lose, given his aspirations and the strategic path he's been taking.

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

[inthelongrun]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

The Japanese fans are probably not cool with Johneriel Casimero calling their living legend a turtle. But still, Casimero is the main attraction here. He is actually promoted by a Japanese since bolting out of MP Promotions. Oguni is just a stay-busy fight but we're hoping Casimero delivers a good performance to bolster his reputation. Though Oguni was a former world champion, he quit fighting for 3 years already and then went for a return last year which ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent. At present, Oguni has been inactive for over a year now and he is fighting an active 3-division champion so this should be an easy win for Casimero.

Some are bashing Casimero's level of opponent but I'm just happy that he is making himself active. I am confident he will get his title shot next year so he better stay active and fit.

It's great to see Casimero keeping himself busy with his second fight this year. Hopefully, there's another one in store before the year concludes. While I wasn't aware that his opponent is a former champion, a glance at his record doesn't make it seem as impressive as Casimero's. Let's wait and see. I'm hoping Casimero will persist in calling out Inoue during post-fight interviews. Of course, this assumes he emerges victorious in this contest; otherwise, challenging Inoue would seem premature if he can't defeat Oguni.

Yes, at least Casimero is staying active rather than just waiting for a big fight that might make him rusty if it takes so long. Yukinori Oguni became the champion a long time ago. In 2016 he outboxed then-dangerous KO artist Yonatan Pena and took the IBF belt. Too bad though as he lost it in his first title defense.

A December return for Casimero is still possible but only if he makes an easy work on Oguni. But if Casimero sustains some cuts and spends a lot of energy in this fight then he needs at least a month of rest plus two months to train so that makes him only available in January of next year. Hopefully, we'll see Casimero winning easily because this is only a tune-up fight for him. 

I guess that will suffice instead of not having some fights this year to keep him warm while waiting for the big fight that he wanted. But I couldn't help but think why Oguni and not someone else in the Top 5 of WBC rankings because that is what he needed and not a tune-up fight-like just to stay active. This will surely not please people because Oguni is not that famous even if he was once an IBF champion.

Regardless, I'm also hoping just like you guys, that Casimero can finish this fight without having serious damages on his side so that he can have another fight somewhere in December or early January.

Johnreil Casimero is actually bashed a lot these days and one of the reasons behind it is the choice of his next opponent. This is only the second fight of Yukinori Oguni in 4 years and his last fight which was more than a year already ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent.

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

With regards to Casimero choosing a top 5 in the WBC rankings, I believe the target is becoming the WBO mandatory where he is more recognized just in case he is not getting the winner of Inoue-Tapales. WBO #1 Sam Goodman is already the IBF mandatory while Nery the WBO #2 has also won a WBC eliminator already so these guys are waiting for their shots at the titles. And it also means that Casimero is unofficially the real WBO #1 unless someone below overtakes his ranking. The WBA did not rank Casimero in their top 10 and it already mandated former champions Akhmadaliev and Kameda to fight with the winner being the mandatory.

[coin-investor]

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

Against an unknown opponent? I don't think so, he needs a big name to regain his reputation and fame Even if he knocks out Oguni like we expect him to do he will just gain a win and hopefully a step toward a title fight if his promoters can do that, I don't rule out an upset but Casimero has never been knocked out, he gets hurt but he always manages to come back.

Now that he is in a new promotion he will try to impress his new promoters, but hey these are Japanese promoters so there's a possibility of an Inoue showdown in Japan they can easily set it up since the Japanese are good in negotiations.

[carlisle1]

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

Against an unknown opponent? I don't think so, he needs a big name to regain his reputation and fame Even if he knocks out Oguni like we expect him to do he will just gain a win and hopefully a step toward a title fight if his promoters can do that, I don't rule out an upset but Casimero has never been knocked out, he gets hurt but he always manages to come back.

Now that he is in a new promotion he will try to impress his new promoters, but hey these are Japanese promoters so there's a possibility of an Inoue showdown in Japan they can easily set it up since the Japanese are good in negotiations.

If the price is right, there's no impossible for Inoue's handlers, but we should wait for the outcome of this fight first, then go to that
discussion after.

In terms of upset, that's always present or I mean that's always possible inside this sport, Casimero needs this win
if he's chasing for a title fight, a continuous win will allow him to hype his ranking and possible to challenge the
current champ.

[Yaunfitda]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

Yes, most likely this is why he sign with the Japanese, and so far they have delivered a good fight and purse for Casimero. And I do agree that he is very active this year, I remember he had one fight in the Philippines and then this one, so it makes 2 fight a year (I forget if he had one earlier this year).

And he needs to be active as well, I mean Casimero is not getting any younger and so very active makes his power and reflex still at par with some of the big punchers at 122 lbs right now.

[Baofeng]

I am not sure what happened that warranted Casimero being stripped of his WBO world bantamweight title in 2022. He supposedly violated some British BS ban on sauna use for reducing weight?

Yes, he was caught trying to lose additional pounds thru sauna during the fight week, which is forbidden by the BBBoC. And with that he was stripped of his WBO bantamweight belt.

This is the first time I have heard of such nonsense and to be honest, I think it was very unfair. I hope to see him becoming a world champion in spite of this. Oguni is going to be an obviously tough opponent and if Casimero loses this fight it will be a huge setback to him. He almost lost to Ryo Akaho but was saved by an overturned decision, which was very lucky. I do not expect him to be just as lucky this time, should he lose.

Harsh as it may, he needs to follow the rules and obviously, members of his team didn't know that. And what makes it worst is that he was caught thru his Youtube channel. the Ryo fight was controversial, but this fight should be a make or break for him. As others have stated, tune up fight for him and so this should be an easy victory for John Riel.

[dothebeats]

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

Not sure about unfair judgment, but there will surely be some form of bias from the crowd for sure. Casimero is poised to win this bout given that Oguni is older and possibly a lot weaker in terms of strength and overall speed. However, I should not jump on the gun this fast - Casimero can still be caught off-guard by the Japanese boxer. Anyway, odds will probably favor Casimero given his consecutive wins against different boxers.

[goinmerry]

At last, John Riel Casimero will now finally have a fight again and return to the ring.

He really needs more fights, even against anyone or unranked, as he's building and climbing his ranking (currently at #3 on WBO) in order to be a contender again here at 122 lbs. The goal is to be recognized and he should have an impressive win here like what he did in his debut fight at 122 against Ryo Akaho. He really needs to make sound again in this division as his previous fight against Namibias' Fillipus Nghitumbwa wasn't that impressive although he won the score at all 3 judges and was able to get an unanimous win.

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

[Darker45]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.