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September 08, 2023, 07:40:37 AM
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I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it.

The betting odds for Casimero to win are not attractive for sure, but there's always a betting option. Just try to take a risk in the KO markets, as Casimero will surely want to impress the crowd to gain the attention of Inoue. So, a KO win here could be a great bet. You should choose which round, or consider round ranges, like every 3 rounds per range.

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There is a high possibility of a knockout.
I find it very reasonable, as Casimero does not want people to think that he is losing his power when he moves up.

There is no doubt that the moneyline for Casimero won't be that attractive becuase this Oguni here, no matter how I see it, he really don't stand a chance against the Filipino pride. It's not underestimating, we're just stating some facts which will likely happen during fight.

And so, other betting options would be perfect for us to seek as I don't see this fight to end in the judge's hand. A knockout win by Casimero might have a sweet decent odds but not that yummy considering that bookies might've already thought ahead on what we're thinking. Anyway, let's wait for now because a fight like this, usually bookies will open their lines in two to three days before the fight night.

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September 08, 2023, 02:54:38 PM
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I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it.

The betting odds for Casimero to win are not attractive for sure, but there's always a betting option. Just try to take a risk in the KO markets, as Casimero will surely want to impress the crowd to gain the attention of Inoue. So, a KO win here could be a great bet. You should choose which round, or consider round ranges, like every 3 rounds per range.

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There is a high possibility of a knockout.
I find it very reasonable, as Casimero does not want people to think that he is losing his power when he moves up.

There is no doubt that the moneyline for Casimero won't be that attractive becuase this Oguni here, no matter how I see it, he really don't stand a chance against the Filipino pride. It's not underestimating, we're just stating some facts which will likely happen during fight.

And so, other betting options would be perfect for us to seek as I don't see this fight to end in the judge's hand. A knockout win by Casimero might have a sweet decent odds but not that yummy considering that bookies might've already thought ahead on what we're thinking. Anyway, let's wait for now because a fight like this, usually bookies will open their lines in two to three days before the fight night.

Odds are not available yet because this fight isn't generating much interest. If bookies saw this as a popular fight, they would have already created betting odds. The earlier they make it available, the more bets will come in. However, in this case, the absence of odds suggests that they understand only a few will participate in betting, so they will wait until the fight is closer before making odds available.

With plenty of big fights lined up this year, this one might just be forgotten and might not attract enough viewership. However, since it's held in Japan, I believe that people from the Philippines and Japan will still be interested in watching it.

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September 08, 2023, 03:56:26 PM
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I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it.

The betting odds for Casimero to win are not attractive for sure, but there's always a betting option. Just try to take a risk in the KO markets, as Casimero will surely want to impress the crowd to gain the attention of Inoue. So, a KO win here could be a great bet. You should choose which round, or consider round ranges, like every 3 rounds per range.

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There is a high possibility of a knockout.
I find it very reasonable, as Casimero does not want people to think that he is losing his power when he moves up.

There is no doubt that the moneyline for Casimero won't be that attractive becuase this Oguni here, no matter how I see it, he really don't stand a chance against the Filipino pride. It's not underestimating, we're just stating some facts which will likely happen during fight.

Yes, we have seen the money line for Casimero even prior to this fight is not going to be that good. Bookies look everything before making the odds and it's obvious that the knockout ratio and the quality of opponents of Casimero is no match for Oguni.

And so, other betting options would be perfect for us to seek as I don't see this fight to end in the judge's hand. A knockout win by Casimero might have a sweet decent odds but not that yummy considering that bookies might've already thought ahead on what we're thinking. Anyway, let's wait for now because a fight like this, usually bookies will open their lines in two to three days before the fight night.

Definitely we will have to wait and see what will be the odds. This fight is next month and we are not expecting the odds to be released by crypto sports bookies very early. I reckon it will be in the last day prior to the fight that the full odds will be available to us.

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September 08, 2023, 04:12:16 PM
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Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

.we are all know that once a champion will have a fight against challenger then he can not say that he can earn a lot of money or even he can receives a good offer cause as we all know that only few around the world will watch your fights. Unless a champion vs champion then we can say that there a lot of people want to watch cause they will know that both fighter a re champion then they will see a good fight for sure.

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September 09, 2023, 04:41:49 PM
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Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

.we are all know that once a champion will have a fight against challenger then he can not say that he can earn a lot of money or even he can receives a good offer cause as we all know that only few around the world will watch your fights. Unless a champion vs champion then we can say that there a lot of people want to watch cause they will know that both fighter a re champion then they will see a good fight for sure.

The purse is already a guaranteed amount a boxer would receive, with additional earnings coming from PPV and other advertisements, depending on the outcome of the fight. In my opinion, the style of the boxers matters a lot because most of the boxers who are KO artists attract fans significantly, as they entertain the fans. This is unlike the boxers who are boring in the ring. Additionally, a champion vs. champion matchup does not guarantee good money, especially if both boxers do not take risks by being aggressive. To be specific, I don't find the styles of Haney and Shaku entertaining, which is why they don't generate good PPV numbers.

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September 09, 2023, 04:52:58 PM
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Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

.we are all know that once a champion will have a fight against challenger then he can not say that he can earn a lot of money or even he can receives a good offer cause as we all know that only few around the world will watch your fights. Unless a champion vs champion then we can say that there a lot of people want to watch cause they will know that both fighter a re champion then they will see a good fight for sure.

If you're talking about Casimero vs Oguni, none of them is the champion in this division that is why I don't see someone challenging someone because this fight has been already arranged beforehand as Casimero has signed with a Japanese counterpart. That is why he got a fight with the likes of Akaho and Filipus.

But since you're replying to a discussion between Tapales and Inoue, which makes me curious by the way if whom you're referring as a challenger because both of them is a champion at 122 that is why they will fight next for the undisputed title. Casimero and Oguni is a different bout, so I think you're just confused.

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September 09, 2023, 09:00:13 PM
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Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

.we are all know that once a champion will have a fight against challenger then he can not say that he can earn a lot of money or even he can receives a good offer cause as we all know that only few around the world will watch your fights. Unless a champion vs champion then we can say that there a lot of people want to watch cause they will know that both fighter a re champion then they will see a good fight for sure.

The purse is already a guaranteed amount a boxer would receive, with additional earnings coming from PPV and other advertisements, depending on the outcome of the fight. In my opinion, the style of the boxers matters a lot because most of the boxers who are KO artists attract fans significantly, as they entertain the fans. This is unlike the boxers who are boring in the ring. Additionally, a champion vs. champion matchup does not guarantee good money, especially if both boxers do not take risks by being aggressive. To be specific, I don't find the styles of Haney and Shaku entertaining, which is why they don't generate good PPV numbers.

Correct, they already have guaranteed money here, and they will have just to follow the governing body's rule about how much money is going to be involved. And then the two parties will have to agree who will get the lion share.
I have no doubts that Casimero is the A-side here, maybe around 60-40 split or even higher as Oguni is already way past his prime and this fight is a tune up for Casimero.
The fight is going to be held in Japan though, so perhaps Oguni will have his fans watching this fight or maybe Japanese fans in general.

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September 10, 2023, 01:44:18 AM
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I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.
As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Other bookies might not be that interested too in listing their bout because this is just a small fight with no anything on the line and only the people who are an avid fan of boxing might know Casimero but for the others who are just interested in big fights, then this is not for them that's why some bookies might not list it as not everyone are inclined to see it.

I think they will have to list it though, I haven't seen crypto sport bookies missed a boxing schedule fight.
Usually their book makers have this schedules already and might calculating the possible odds already.
But as what others have said, if it is a small fight, they might delay the listing to possible the date of the fight itself.
And if we are looking to bet on this fight, then we can't do anything but to wait. I'm not sure though if there is some notification from sports casinos that a new fight betting odds have been listed?

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it. There is a high possibility of a knockout.

I just check today, so yeah, everyone is right, fight is not listed only there are fights along the same date that is already on crypto sport bookies because they are hype or at least on higher division and obviously fighters are well known.

So I wil also wait and see what are the odds for KO here for Casimero. If I see that it's very attractive to me, then I might go for it. I'm trying to be selective of my bets but most likely I think Casimero this time will have to go for KO win to increased his chance of facing the champion next.

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September 10, 2023, 09:45:53 AM
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this is a fight in which on paper the casimero has a big advantage, in my opinion and when the odds are released, something that maybe will only happen from the end of this month, it may be announced before, but I very much doubt that will happen. but when they publish the odds, the casino will probably be at 1.20 or 1.30 at most if they win. and I see that many people already expect this, and for that reason they will look for other markets like the ko market and looking at casimero's performance, we can see that the guy had a lot of wins for ko, so the bookmakers will also put low odds on the victory market for ko in favor of casimero

we will probably see 1.30 to 1.40 odds for a casimero win by ko. if I saw a big odd like over 1.50 then I would bet, but something below 1.50 I won't risk making a bet because it's not profitable in the long term, ideal for me would be if I saw an odd of 1.80 for Casemiro to win by ko , that would indeed be worth betting on, but I need to see how many fights oguni lost to ko, as there is still 1 month left for the fight, it is still early for many predictions to start appearing on many websites and youtube channels that I follow.

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September 10, 2023, 10:15:49 AM
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this is a fight in which on paper the casimero has a big advantage, in my opinion and when the odds are released, something that maybe will only happen from the end of this month, it may be announced before, but I very much doubt that will happen. but when they publish the odds, the casino will probably be at 1.20 or 1.30 at most if they win. and I see that many people already expect this, and for that reason they will look for other markets like the ko market and looking at casimero's performance, we can see that the guy had a lot of wins for ko, so the bookmakers will also put low odds on the victory market for ko in favor of casimero

we will probably see 1.30 to 1.40 odds for a casimero win by ko. if I saw a big odd like over 1.50 then I would bet, but something below 1.50 I won't risk making a bet because it's not profitable in the long term, ideal for me would be if I saw an odd of 1.80 for Casemiro to win by ko , that would indeed be worth betting on, but I need to see how many fights oguni lost to ko, as there is still 1 month left for the fight, it is still early for many predictions to start appearing on many websites and youtube channels that I follow.

I don't know, but maybe the best odds to be offered to us to 1.10 ML in favor of Casimero here. I don't know we will see lower odds that than. And I think 1.20 or even 1.30 is already a far stretch as it is already a big offering ML for Casimero.

Again, Oguni records doesn't speak well while Casimero is known to be very aggressive and has a powerful punch. I might be again, interested on what will be the odds for a KO for Casimero. If it is higher than 1.70 then I might go with it as my bet instead of the lower odds of ML for him.

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September 10, 2023, 10:48:26 AM
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this is a fight in which on paper the casimero has a big advantage, in my opinion and when the odds are released, something that maybe will only happen from the end of this month, it may be announced before, but I very much doubt that will happen. but when they publish the odds, the casino will probably be at 1.20 or 1.30 at most if they win. and I see that many people already expect this, and for that reason they will look for other markets like the ko market and looking at casimero's performance, we can see that the guy had a lot of wins for ko, so the bookmakers will also put low odds on the victory market for ko in favor of casimero

we will probably see 1.30 to 1.40 odds for a casimero win by ko. if I saw a big odd like over 1.50 then I would bet, but something below 1.50 I won't risk making a bet because it's not profitable in the long term, ideal for me would be if I saw an odd of 1.80 for Casemiro to win by ko , that would indeed be worth betting on, but I need to see how many fights oguni lost to ko, as there is still 1 month left for the fight, it is still early for many predictions to start appearing on many websites and youtube channels that I follow.

I don't know, but maybe the best odds to be offered to us to 1.10 ML in favor of Casimero here. I don't know we will see lower odds that than. And I think 1.20 or even 1.30 is already a far stretch as it is already a big offering ML for Casimero.

Again, Oguni records doesn't speak well while Casimero is known to be very aggressive and has a powerful punch. I might be again, interested on what will be the odds for a KO for Casimero.

Odds of 1.10 are already unattractive to me; I wouldn't consider those odds. However, I might be enticed by odds in the range of 1.25 to 1.30, especially considering Casimero's winning streak. On paper, this fight doesn't seem exciting to watch, but if we end up witnessing an action-packed bout resulting in a KO, I believe it's worth spending our time watching the fight. As a bettor, I'll make sure I can watch the match.

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If it is higher than 1.70 then I might go with it as my bet instead of the lower odds of ML for him.
Not gonna happen mate.

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September 10, 2023, 01:19:02 PM
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I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.
As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Other bookies might not be that interested too in listing their bout because this is just a small fight with no anything on the line and only the people who are an avid fan of boxing might know Casimero but for the others who are just interested in big fights, then this is not for them that's why some bookies might not list it as not everyone are inclined to see it.

I think they will have to list it though, I haven't seen crypto sport bookies missed a boxing schedule fight.
Usually their book makers have this schedules already and might calculating the possible odds already.
But as what others have said, if it is a small fight, they might delay the listing to possible the date of the fight itself.
And if we are looking to bet on this fight, then we can't do anything but to wait. I'm not sure though if there is some notification from sports casinos that a new fight betting odds have been listed?

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it. There is a high possibility of a knockout.

I just check today, so yeah, everyone is right, fight is not listed only there are fights along the same date that is already on crypto sport bookies because they are hype or at least on higher division and obviously fighters are well known.

So I wil also wait and see what are the odds for KO here for Casimero. If I see that it's very attractive to me, then I might go for it. I'm trying to be selective of my bets but most likely I think Casimero this time will have to go for KO win to increased his chance of facing the champion next.
Let's just expect that the fight's odds will be released in just a few days before the fight because that is the most cases mainly in this bout where it isn't that big and it's not even a championship fight as well, so the bookies will not give it any priorities as there is no need for them to list the bout this early. Let's just be patient Grin

What is important now is that Casimero getting something instead of waiting some miracle as he wasn't having some noises in the past months. A fight is a fight and this is good enough to keep him warm even if it's not what we imagined.

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September 11, 2023, 04:03:31 PM
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this is a fight in which on paper the casimero has a big advantage, in my opinion and when the odds are released, something that maybe will only happen from the end of this month, it may be announced before, but I very much doubt that will happen. but when they publish the odds, the casino will probably be at 1.20 or 1.30 at most if they win. and I see that many people already expect this, and for that reason they will look for other markets like the ko market and looking at casimero's performance, we can see that the guy had a lot of wins for ko, so the bookmakers will also put low odds on the victory market for ko in favor of casimero

we will probably see 1.30 to 1.40 odds for a casimero win by ko. if I saw a big odd like over 1.50 then I would bet, but something below 1.50 I won't risk making a bet because it's not profitable in the long term, ideal for me would be if I saw an odd of 1.80 for Casemiro to win by ko , that would indeed be worth betting on, but I need to see how many fights oguni lost to ko, as there is still 1 month left for the fight, it is still early for many predictions to start appearing on many websites and youtube channels that I follow.

I don't know, but maybe the best odds to be offered to us to 1.10 ML in favor of Casimero here. I don't know we will see lower odds that than. And I think 1.20 or even 1.30 is already a far stretch as it is already a big offering ML for Casimero.

Again, Oguni records doesn't speak well while Casimero is known to be very aggressive and has a powerful punch. I might be again, interested on what will be the odds for a KO for Casimero.

Odds of 1.10 are already unattractive to me; I wouldn't consider those odds. However, I might be enticed by odds in the range of 1.25 to 1.30, especially considering Casimero's winning streak. On paper, this fight doesn't seem exciting to watch, but if we end up witnessing an action-packed bout resulting in a KO, I believe it's worth spending our time watching the fight. As a bettor, I'll make sure I can watch the match.

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If it is higher than 1.70 then I might go with it as my bet instead of the lower odds of ML for him.
Not gonna happen mate.

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.
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September 12, 2023, 11:08:32 AM
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Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

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September 12, 2023, 11:22:59 AM
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Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yes, there might be more betting options once the fight is getting nearer. But I understand the odds difference. Oguni's only advantage here is he is fighting in front of his countrymen although the promotion itself is by Casimero's promoter who happens to be Japanese.

If only the fight venue is not in Japan, I would probably risk on Casimero. The biggest upsets happen when the huge underdogs land a huge power punch on their opponents like what happened to Mike Tyson against Buster Douglas. The problem with Oguni though is he doesn't possess that power punch so an upset is very unlikely.

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September 12, 2023, 11:44:42 AM
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Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

If by chance that Inoue will give some time to stay even he managed to unify all the belts after the possible upcoming fight against Tapales, it would be
the best timing for Casimero in case fans will bring the talk using SocMed to make things possible between HIm and Inoue.

for now, let the fight roll and bring some decent profit to his fans. I mean Casimero needs to win, that's all!
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September 12, 2023, 01:15:38 PM
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Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

If by chance that Inoue will give some time to stay even he managed to unify all the belts after the possible upcoming fight against Tapales, it would be
the best timing for Casimero in case fans will bring the talk using SocMed to make things possible between HIm and Inoue.

for now, let the fight roll and bring some decent profit to his fans. I mean Casimero needs to win, that's all!

Casimero and Inoue will likely win their respective fights, so it's okay to discuss in advance the possible future clash between Casimero and Inoue. It may not be a unification fight, but Inoue is staking his belt on his fight against Casimero because the latter is very unpredictable. He has been an underdog in the past and has surprised the champion, so I wouldn't be surprised if he beats Inoue, as he is a very capable boxer.

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September 12, 2023, 01:29:32 PM
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Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

Oh that's good to hear that he has his own gym now, I mean that's how you give back to your community. Of course he can used it personally to train if he has incoming fights. But it will also give other younga and upcoming boxers to train there as it could have a good facility. Until those gym that Manny used when he was still in the beginning of his career. Although it could have help Filipino boxers to get used to obscured boxing arena's and fight, but still good if there will be some gyms that they can start with par with many gyms in the world. No odds yet though, so we will have to wait for a bit and see what options we had that will likely give us a good return or profits betting on John Riel Casimero here.

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September 13, 2023, 11:46:21 AM
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Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

If by chance that Inoue will give some time to stay even he managed to unify all the belts after the possible upcoming fight against Tapales, it would be
the best timing for Casimero in case fans will bring the talk using SocMed to make things possible between HIm and Inoue.

for now, let the fight roll and bring some decent profit to his fans. I mean Casimero needs to win, that's all!

Casimero and Inoue will likely win their respective fights, so it's okay to discuss in advance the possible future clash between Casimero and Inoue. It may not be a unification fight, but Inoue is staking his belt on his fight against Casimero because the latter is very unpredictable. He has been an underdog in the past and has surprised the champion, so I wouldn't be surprised if he beats Inoue, as he is a very capable boxer.

Ah okay, if ever that Inoue's camp will allow this challenge for sure many fans from both sides will be happy, it's being discussed
before when they almost meet each other from their past division.

Though that event didn't push thru as Inoue pick the rematch against Donaire first while Casimero got stripped as he didn't meet the weight
that supposedly for his fight defending his belt.

If everything takes place and both win the upcoming fight and media hypes brings the talk into the table, promoters might push it to happen.
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September 13, 2023, 11:51:53 AM
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Oh that's good to hear that he has his own gym now, I mean that's how you give back to your community. Of course he can used it personally to train if he has incoming fights. But it will also give other younga and upcoming boxers to train there as it could have a good facility. Until those gym that Manny used when he was still in the beginning of his career. Although it could have help Filipino boxers to get used to obscured boxing arena's and fight, but still good if there will be some gyms that they can start with par with many gyms in the world. No odds yet though, so we will have to wait for a bit and see what options we had that will likely give us a good return or profits betting on John Riel Casimero here.

Yeah, the gym is very helpful for those youngsters who want to be boxers as they have now a facility where they can practice for free and if they are serious enough and become a prodigy then that could alleviate them from poverty as most of the kids that are training in Casimero's gym came from poor families. Good thing that Quadro Alas provided some of the kids that have potential the equipment like running shoes and shorts for training.

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