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October 13, 2023, 02:31:25 AM
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On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

However, we can't rule out the possibility that Casimero might improve; we've observed his weakness, particularly his endurance, which his training camp should address.

In an interview, he expressed his desire to become the first champion from their boxing gym. This seems like a formidable challenge in the current division, with Inoue still reigning supreme.

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October 13, 2023, 03:49:26 AM
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I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.

The fight ended in a draw due to an unintentional headbutt.

I have a feeling that the early draw is a blessing in disguise. Casimero seems too predictable. And his stamina is losing even if the fight is still too early. I hope this is a wake-up call to Casimero that he really needs a serious training camp the next time he gets a scheduled fight. He needs to train in a place where there are zero to fewer friends to avoid temptations. His brother Jayson is not giving him anything special. Also, it is better to have a reliable dietician and a conditioning coach.

I won't be surprised if Inoue will still pick Casimero early next year if he wins over Tapales.

Ok, just what I thought, yes, I would agree that Casimero doesn't seem to be very special in this fight, I mean not just against Oguni, but when we step up at 122 lbs, the power is no longer there. Yeah, he hit Oguni will clear power shots, but the guy is not going down. And his stamina here is very question, seems to be very tired after round 2 and he was also eating a lot of shots from Oguni.

Yes, If Inoue picks him up after beating Tapales and unified all the belts. I think Casimero will suffer a brutal knockout. (Sorry, am I fan of Casimero, but if he shows this version against Inoue, very slow and doesn't have a gas tank, Inoue will eat him alive and will put a beating worst than he did to Fulton).
Some people been saying that he become that too confident and not really just that serious on his training and come unprepared for this fight just because of that confidence that he could knock easily his opponent?.

Then it could be a disaster for Casimero if he always feels overconfident in his fight and take his opponent very lightly. We've seen videos of him training very hard and even had some runs with some teenagers. But I guess that's what we also see, or that's what Casimero wanted us to see that he is really training very hard but maybe he just focused on the last couple of weeks.

Recently, we've been seeing Casimero's trash talking or provocation about Inoue to fight him but basing on what he's really showing on this recent fight then he wont really be standing a chance against the monster.
Imagine that he had go full blast in Round 1 and then gassed out on Round 2 and 3 which it is really that  evident or really that obvious basing up on how often he clinch out on the opponent or on Oguni.
When it comes to endurance then we can say that Oguni doesnt really come down so easy which means that power is already lacking on Casimeros punch on which he's really known for?

Yes, the power has somewhat diminished as Casimero is not getting any younger. He still wants to provoke Inoue and have a fight with him. That's his target for a long time. But maybe he should test himself against Luis Nery first and see if he can take his power or if he will perform better at super bantamweight because in his first 3 fights, it's all controversial.

The main issue i could see for Casimero is really on his stamina and the team should really be working for that because he doesnt really last up that long and its really just that
good for Round 1 and the rest then its just a meh.  Grin

Yep, his stamina is lacking, you can see he open his mouth and we didn't see the "angas" that he had when he was a bantamweight. I would agree that he need to switch trainer as well and get help to improved his gas tank. Or maybe it boils down to his discipline in training?

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October 13, 2023, 05:40:17 AM
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I think it will still a go though for Casimero vs Inoue, that is, if the camp of Inoue will be interested on the Filipino base on what he shows against the sparring partner of Inoue in Oguni. I'll give the first round to Casimero as he caught and wobbled Oguni in that round. And same in the second round, although Oguni tried to have the fight in his phase and own game but Casimero fighting some good shots from time to time. Unfortunately, it ended in a technical draw because of the clash of heads. And as per the judges scorecard, two judge has Casimero ahead by score of 29-28 and the other judges had it Oguni with the same score. It's just too bad that it has to end this way, as the fight is shaping to be a good fight as neither boxers is not backing up although from what I see Casimero is ahead on my card. But I do agree with the concerns of some of the boxing fans here, seems that Casimero doesn't have the gas tank or maybe he still has problems with the climate when he arrives in Japan and wasn't able to adjust.

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October 13, 2023, 08:21:01 AM
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On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

However, we can't rule out the possibility that Casimero might improve; we've observed his weakness, particularly his endurance, which his training camp should address.

In an interview, he expressed his desire to become the first champion from their boxing gym. This seems like a formidable challenge in the current division, with Inoue still reigning supreme.

But its not gonna happen now especially that Casimero performance is declining and Inoue cannot get anything with him so most provably that same scenario will happen that Inoue's camp will ignore Casimero request to fight him. If Casimero did just get a huge victory against Oguni maybe it became different since japanese fans might call out this fight against Inoue will happen. But for what happen and how the fight looks it seems that in next match people will lost interest to watch Casimero's match especially if he fight another japanese fighter since they would know that it will be a boring match to watch.

If he want to improve he need to get proper trainor to improve his stamina and this is what many people suggest to him since for his past couple of fights stamina is his big problem so he need to fix that to became relevant since power is there but its just he need to improve to became more better.

To many people believe at his current condition he can't defeat Inoue so hopefully he will be inspired to change his attitude and get a proper trainor so he will not end up his career losing heavily to his future opponent.

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October 13, 2023, 08:39:05 AM
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On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

I don't want to see it anymore after my initial expectations from Casimero became true when I saw his fight against Oguni. I was actually expecting not much from him after I saw a video surrounding the internet about Casimero gaining a weight that was very evident because of his big stomach while preparing for this fight. I knew for sure that he's going to lose a stamina.
The Japanese guy was really intelligent for punishing Casimero with a lot of body shots, causing him to even lose stamina. If the headbutt didn't happen, Casimero will most probably lost that fight.
Therefore, I don't want to see a fight between Casimero and Inoue anymore. I've already lost interest from it.

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October 13, 2023, 09:49:44 AM
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The Japanese guy was really intelligent for punishing Casimero with a lot of body shots, causing him to even lose stamina. If the headbutt didn't happen, Casimero will most probably lost that fight.
Therefore, I don't want to see a fight between Casimero and Inoue anymore. I've already lost interest from it.
After this fight there are a lot of doubts and uncertainty about where Casinero is going now, this is supposed to be a cherry-picked fight for him to gain ground and ask Inoue to fight him, but Casimero cannot dare Inoue to fight him, Inoue will become an overwhelming favorite if Inoue agreed to fight him.
Casimero should go for top fighters now, it's no used cherry picking opponents he is fast losing his reputation as a knockout artist.

The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

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I've seen this Youtube video and not sure if this is true or not as I can't find any source for that. But it says that the JBC, I'm assuming that it was the Japanese boxing commission, has overturned the decision and declared Casimero as the winner as there was no head butt, but clearly a punch that did damage to Oguni,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQxS59OIJ4

I just hate the background music though.

Maybe someone can confirmed it or not if indeed the decision was overturned by the Japan.
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The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

Yeah, he was exposed big time. Casimero lacks the stamina of a true champion. He just relied on that one big punch that might not land as Oguni was also intelligent and he countered every punch that Casimero threw. If no changes on the trainer and conditioning coach/nutritionist then i agree with you that Quadro Alas' career will be over in a couple of years. That kind of performance was B level and he will just last 3 or 4 rounds if his opponent is Inoue.

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The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

Yeah, he was exposed big time. Casimero lacks the stamina of a true champion. He just relied on that one big punch that might not land as Oguni was also intelligent and he countered every punch that Casimero threw. If no changes on the trainer and conditioning coach/nutritionist then i agree with you that Quadro Alas' career will be over in a couple of years. That kind of performance was B level and he will just last 3 or 4 rounds if his opponent is Inoue.
I saw lots of haymaker punches from Casimero like he was trying to get a lucky punch that would end the fight, that's not how boxing works, he also lacks the basics. I think he is too impatient about winning and climbing the ranks to get his shot against Inoue but he doesn't notice that by doing this he is just making the gap longer.
After watching him against the Japanese Oguni I didn't see good boxing and I bet many Filipino boxing fans would feel the same. He is forcing a knockout but he ain't that young Casimero anymore. He should think about taking it slow and using his experience as his main weapon instead of fighting like a 25 year old boxer with lots of stamina reserved, he ain't that guy anymore.
In round 2, I saw him resting and breathing heavily from his mouth, which is why I have round 2 to Oguni because he took advantage of that and let his punches fly all over Casimero.

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October 13, 2023, 11:35:44 AM
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The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

Yeah, he was exposed big time. Casimero lacks the stamina of a true champion. He just relied on that one big punch that might not land as Oguni was also intelligent and he countered every punch that Casimero threw. If no changes on the trainer and conditioning coach/nutritionist then i agree with you that Quadro Alas' career will be over in a couple of years. That kind of performance was B level and he will just last 3 or 4 rounds if his opponent is Inoue.
I saw lots of haymaker punches from Casimero like he was trying to get a lucky punch that would end the fight, that's not how boxing works, he also lacks the basics. I think he is too impatient about winning and climbing the ranks to get his shot against Inoue but he doesn't notice that by doing this he is just making the gap longer.
After watching him against the Japanese Oguni I didn't see good boxing and I bet many Filipino boxing fans would feel the same. He is forcing a knockout but he ain't that young Casimero anymore. He should think about taking it slow and using his experience as his main weapon instead of fighting like a 25 year old boxer with lots of stamina reserved, he ain't that guy anymore.
In round 2, I saw him resting and breathing heavily from his mouth, which is why I have round 2 to Oguni because he took advantage of that and let his punches fly all over Casimero.

I'm with you on that one; I'm not quite sure what he was thinking either. Maybe he felt the pressure to secure a KO victory. People had their doubts after his last fight where he didn't end up with a KO win, so this time, right from the first round, he was super aggressive, all out for that knockout. It's possible he underestimated Oguni and wanted to prove to the fans that he's ready to take on their biggest champion, Inoue.

It's important that he hasn't suffered a loss since, and a draw is certainly better than a loss. But that result is indeed quite controversial. I think the boxing organization should investigate it further, as it wasn't entirely clear whether it was the headbutt that caused the cut or Casimero's powerful punches.

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     -   I watched that, and the result was a draw. At the beginning of the fight, our stoner showed quite a good performance, but as the round increased, he seemed to struggle with what he wanted to happen to knock down his opponent.

Overall, I'm not satisfied with his performance in that fight scene. Though I saw that he struggled and was hurt, obviously it was a physical fight, it seems like he didn't really give his all. If you notice that when it was announced that they were a draw, he just shook his head, as if it were a waste of tiredness and difficulty accepting his opponent's punches.

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October 13, 2023, 01:18:44 PM
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     -   I watched that, and the result was a draw. At the beginning of the fight, our stoner showed quite a good performance, but as the round increased, he seemed to struggle with what he wanted to happen to knock down his opponent.

Overall, I'm not satisfied with his performance in that fight scene. Though I saw that he struggled and was hurt, obviously it was a physical fight, it seems like he didn't really give his all. If you notice that when it was announced that they were a draw, he just shook his head, as if it were a waste of tiredness and difficulty accepting his opponent's punches.

He should finish the fight as early as round 1 as he mentioned that he can do it he just don't want the fans to be disappointed
as if he finished it that early the live viewers might be disappointed.

I don't think that the result should be a draw as he got more solid conversions, and he also has that attempt to finish it but the ref gives Ogani time
to stand up and rest a little.

Good to learn that if you really can take down your opponent better to do it as early as possible, this will avoid surprise result like this.
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I saw lots of haymaker punches from Casimero like he was trying to get a lucky punch that would end the fight, that's not how boxing works, he also lacks the basics. I think he is too impatient about winning and climbing the ranks to get his shot against Inoue but he doesn't notice that by doing this he is just making the gap longer.
After watching him against the Japanese Oguni I didn't see good boxing and I bet many Filipino boxing fans would feel the same. He is forcing a knockout but he ain't that young Casimero anymore. He should think about taking it slow and using his experience as his main weapon instead of fighting like a 25 year old boxer with lots of stamina reserved, he ain't that guy anymore.
In round 2, I saw him resting and breathing heavily from his mouth, which is why I have round 2 to Oguni because he took advantage of that and let his punches fly all over Casimero.

That's because Casimero is too excited to knock out Oguni in the fastest possible way underestimating Oguni's stamina and power but unfortunately, it backfires he is the one losing steam and getting hit a lot, and he may hit Oguni with his own punches but he is able to stand those punches.

While watching the fight I was wondering where Casimero's power went, those were the punches that hurt and knockout all his past opponents now it seems he cannot carry his power in the upper weight division if he cannot carry his power then he is just an ordinary fighter and Fulton can easily knock him out before he can go to Inoue.

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I saw lots of haymaker punches from Casimero like he was trying to get a lucky punch that would end the fight, that's not how boxing works, he also lacks the basics. I think he is too impatient about winning and climbing the ranks to get his shot against Inoue but he doesn't notice that by doing this he is just making the gap longer.
After watching him against the Japanese Oguni I didn't see good boxing and I bet many Filipino boxing fans would feel the same. He is forcing a knockout but he ain't that young Casimero anymore. He should think about taking it slow and using his experience as his main weapon instead of fighting like a 25 year old boxer with lots of stamina reserved, he ain't that guy anymore.
In round 2, I saw him resting and breathing heavily from his mouth, which is why I have round 2 to Oguni because he took advantage of that and let his punches fly all over Casimero.

That's because Casimero is too excited to knock out Oguni in the fastest possible way underestimating Oguni's stamina and power but unfortunately, it backfires he is the one losing steam and getting hit a lot, and he may hit Oguni with his own punches but he is able to stand those punches.

While watching the fight I was wondering where Casimero's power went, those were the punches that hurt and knockout all his past opponents now it seems he cannot carry his power in the upper weight division if he cannot carry his power then he is just an ordinary fighter and Fulton can easily knock him out before he can go to Inoue.

I think he gassed out already in the 2nd round but he tried to steal the 2nd round before the ringbell. It's in the 3rd that I see more haymakers. If one of those landed right, it could make him win.

It's a wonder why it was a draw though. Obviously, Casimero landed more shots while Oguni did more at the back of Casimero's head. This is the advantage of having the fight in your home country, the favor will always be with their dog. Its a rob.


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The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

Yeah, he was exposed big time. Casimero lacks the stamina of a true champion. He just relied on that one big punch that might not land as Oguni was also intelligent and he countered every punch that Casimero threw. If no changes on the trainer and conditioning coach/nutritionist then i agree with you that Quadro Alas' career will be over in a couple of years. That kind of performance was B level and he will just last 3 or 4 rounds if his opponent is Inoue.

Right, a supposedly tune up fight for him turns out to be a disaster, as he was visibly looks very turn from the start of the fight. And just like those big punchers, they are looking for that one lucky punch that will change the complexion of the fight itself and Casimero wasn't able to hit Oguni. Although he still has the power, very hard to see how he can the face of 122 lbs with this kind of another controversial technical draw.

So I'm not seeing any Inoue fight for him in the future, and for sure there will be a lot of bashers on Casimero because of the result of this fight. And with this kind of performance, I'm seeing that it is the start of his decline, sad to say.

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October 13, 2023, 06:53:55 PM
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I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.

The fight ended in a draw due to an unintentional headbutt.

I have a feeling that the early draw is a blessing in disguise. Casimero seems too predictable. And his stamina is losing even if the fight is still too early. I hope this is a wake-up call to Casimero that he really needs a serious training camp the next time he gets a scheduled fight. He needs to train in a place where there are zero to fewer friends to avoid temptations. His brother Jayson is not giving him anything special. Also, it is better to have a reliable dietician and a conditioning coach.

I won't be surprised if Inoue will still pick Casimero early next year if he wins over Tapales.

Ok, just what I thought, yes, I would agree that Casimero doesn't seem to be very special in this fight, I mean not just against Oguni, but when we step up at 122 lbs, the power is no longer there. Yeah, he hit Oguni will clear power shots, but the guy is not going down. And his stamina here is very question, seems to be very tired after round 2 and he was also eating a lot of shots from Oguni.

Yes, If Inoue picks him up after beating Tapales and unified all the belts. I think Casimero will suffer a brutal knockout. (Sorry, am I fan of Casimero, but if he shows this version against Inoue, very slow and doesn't have a gas tank, Inoue will eat him alive and will put a beating worst than he did to Fulton).
Some people been saying that he become that too confident and not really just that serious on his training and come unprepared for this fight just because of that confidence that he could knock easily his opponent?.

Then it could be a disaster for Casimero if he always feels overconfident in his fight and take his opponent very lightly. We've seen videos of him training very hard and even had some runs with some teenagers. But I guess that's what we also see, or that's what Casimero wanted us to see that he is really training very hard but maybe he just focused on the last couple of weeks.


Being confident and getting that reckless or not minding much about your training would really be that a giving that huge effect or toll about your performance. If we do really trying to look on Casimeros
performance and those flaws then stamina is really that main issue but it seems that it do becomes worst and thats really that obvious with the recent fight that we've seen. The only edge or weapon
he had is having that strong one time blows on which it  could really knock you down but if we do speak about on trying to make use of the same strategy with those blows then it is really that do easy
to make some counter and we've seen that Oguni does have that reach advantage and we've seen that this guy is tough too on which it would really be that showing that power
isnt really that relevant anymore on Casimero.

Then how he would really be facing up Inoue with that kind of fighting condition or performance? He doesnt even have that footwork or even having that good defense.
Body defense? not that quite and this is really that a favorite spot.  Grin

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October 13, 2023, 11:41:07 PM
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On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

I somehow inclined to agree that with the current performance of Casimero, he will have a hard time beating Inoue.  I see how careless Casimero is when attacking his opponent which may give Inoue a chance to early KO Casimero if ever they meet each other in the ring.

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However, we can't rule out the possibility that Casimero might improve; we've observed his weakness, particularly his endurance, which his training camp should address.

Training is there to improve a boxer, so we might see a lot of improvement once Casimero camp had spotted the area that needs improvement.

In an interview, he expressed his desire to become the first champion from their boxing gym. This seems like a formidable challenge in the current division, with Inoue still reigning supreme.

It is always an honor to be the first, so there is no doubt that aside from defeating Inoue, he wanted to make his name marked on the history of his recent camp so  I believe Casimero needs to improve a lot.



It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

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October 14, 2023, 03:15:46 AM
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It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

It's a drawback when a boxer competes in a country with a less reputable boxing scene. There can be instances of questionable actions, but proving them falls to us, although not necessarily through legal means. It's not just the supposed knockdown; the final sequence was highly controversial. It was supposed to be a knockout, yet they ruled it as a head butt. If Casimero had managed to conclude the fight in the first round, it could have been a game-changer for him. The hype around his career would have surged, potentially setting the stage for an Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.



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October 14, 2023, 04:49:25 AM
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It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

It's a drawback when a boxer competes in a country with a less reputable boxing scene. There can be instances of questionable actions, but proving them falls to us, although not necessarily through legal means. It's not just the supposed knockdown; the final sequence was highly controversial. It was supposed to be a knockout, yet they ruled it as a head butt. If Casimero had managed to conclude the fight in the first round, it could have been a game-changer for him. The hype around his career would have surged, potentially setting the stage for an Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

I would consider Japan to be one of the most reputable countries for boxing. I rarely ever see a bad decision or blatantly biased referees. Those sort of things happen in the US and UK regularly but I just don't think it's common in Japan. I've watched the replay and slowed it down during these supposed controversial moments and in neither instance does it show Casimero landing a legal blow. People are making assumptions due to their favoritism but the referee made the right call to determine it was a headbutt that caused the injury to Oguni.


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October 14, 2023, 05:27:39 AM
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It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

It's a drawback when a boxer competes in a country with a less reputable boxing scene. There can be instances of questionable actions, but proving them falls to us, although not necessarily through legal means. It's not just the supposed knockdown; the final sequence was highly controversial. It was supposed to be a knockout, yet they ruled it as a head butt. If Casimero had managed to conclude the fight in the first round, it could have been a game-changer for him. The hype around his career would have surged, potentially setting the stage for an Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

I would consider Japan to be one of the most reputable countries for boxing. I rarely ever see a bad decision or blatantly biased referees. Those sort of things happen in the US and UK regularly but I just don't think it's common in Japan. I've watched the replay and slowed it down during these supposed controversial moments and in neither instance does it show Casimero landing a legal blow. People are making assumptions due to their favoritism but the referee made the right call to determine it was a headbutt that caused the injury to Oguni.



Now, that was a very clear picture of what happened, but wasn't Oguni already injured before the headbutt occurred? Sometimes what we see in a picture doesn't tell the whole story. I'm referring to the impact of that headbutt versus the impact of what Casimero had been throwing throughout the fight.

To claim that Japan is one of the most reputable countries for boxing, I have my doubts. I watched Casimero's last fight against a Japanese opponent. It was initially ruled as a no contest but was later announced as a TKO. If they truly scrutinized the situation before making a decision, they could have awarded the win to the deserving fighter right then and there.



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