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August 28, 2023, 04:09:32 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Even if you keep on playing through VPN on gambling sites and not getting banned or something like that, it does not mean that you will keep on playing forever. Someday if you get caught, the gambling site will ban you and you will lose all the balance on that site.

The best approach is first to check with the gambling site if they allow VPN or not. If VPN is allowed on the gambling site then you can play using VPN else better avoid using it.
You can also get this information about VPN usage on the terms and conditions page on the casino's web site.

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August 28, 2023, 04:11:24 PM
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I tried using a VPN on Stake and if it's not from a country they support, they won't even let you log in.

Tried using Stake in UK, US, and German VPNs and they won't recognize your account if you're from another region. I'm from Asia and what works for me is only a Singapore VPN. Other countries, I would need to create an account for that specific jurisdiction.

While it's true that these casinos may allow you to use a VPN, they might just have a lot of 'regions' setup for different countries for compliance purposes. It's annoying, but I get what the casinos are trying to achieve. At least, they don't ban me for using VPN to access my accounts.

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August 28, 2023, 04:11:54 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

This is still a vague response by them. I have never heard that using a VPN could cause technical problems like the ones mentioned in the chat you shared. How would it cause errors in the gameplay?

When you ask why some people use VPN when gambling is legal in their country, it doesn't always have to do with the gambling itself. Using a VPN can be an additional layer of privacy protection although it's known that most providers share data when they claim they don't. But as a layer to not be fully naked on the Internet I believe that many people use it. The intention doesn't have to be one that involves manipulation of a location to get onto a gambling platform.

VPNs are so common that I wish gambling platforms had a clear stance on that. If they already say that VPNs could cause errors in gameplay "and some other aspects of the site", what could someone do when they claim that one of your wins was because of an error caused by your VPN?

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August 28, 2023, 04:17:04 PM
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There is a reason why using a VPN can be to open games on certain providers but it is not recommended if you want to be more secure then avoid VPNs even though the casino is friendly to VPNs, but there have been many cases that will later make your account suspicious and there can impose document verification on you.

I don't use a VPN to avoid what I don't want in there are some providers that can't be opened then I will choose other games, anyone looking at the TOS or asking first to live chat to make sure.

But I'm sure if you're an active VPN user you'll get stuck in a casino one day.

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August 28, 2023, 04:19:27 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
I hear this argument all the time and i think it's made by people who don't get the point. It would be illegal for casinos to approve citizens of sanctioned countries. If casinos would get caught doing that intentionally there would be trouble with a big T.

So it doesn't make any sense that they would risk it. What i gather is that those people are misunderstanding why vpn could be sometimes needed. Example if citizens of approved countries are visiting on restricting countries so their ip might get blocked and they could need a proxy workaround. I mean that's the only way i see it even being legal.

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August 28, 2023, 04:36:22 PM
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A few days ago I used a VPN for gambling because there was a ban on the casino. I used a free VPN and visited the site, but it didn't work, the site still blocked me. I tried on another site and it worked. Is there any difference between using a paid VPN and a free VPN to access gambling sites?

If you are in a country where gambling is allowed, I don't think it's necessary to use a VPN. Even so, using a VPN or not is a personal need, some people really value their privacy so they are more comfortable with a VPN. But I agree with what you said, we should look at the ToS, whether their site allows using a VPN or not.

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Even if you keep on playing through VPN on gambling sites and not getting banned or something like that, it does not mean that you will keep on playing forever. Someday if you get caught, the gambling site will ban you and you will lose all the balance on that site.

The best approach is first to check with the gambling site if they allow VPN or not. If VPN is allowed on the gambling site then you can play using VPN else better avoid using it.
You can also get this information about VPN usage on the terms and conditions page on the casino's web site.


Some gamblers use the option of vpn to play the same game with different user name.Actually to my opinion it’s not the good one,we should not take the chance of the other people.Instead you can ask your brothers or sisters to play the gambling along with you.If they win also leads to the chance of money get into to your family pocket.

Mostly the website itself find the VPN usage and block the account.Some gamblers will enjoy to play using the VPN and earn more win from it.But as you said,if any had their huge winnings in the website.After the capture by the website owners,the entire money which he earned will be loss.The website will block the withdraw along with the ban their account.So try to play the gambling with some ethics in order to avoid such ban.

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August 28, 2023, 05:27:13 PM
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What would be the reason for them to get caught right now when they have been using VPN for a long time?
They have been using it for a long time and I assume they have also won amounts within that duration, I'm sure their accounts would have been examined by the staff when they won but still, they continue playing. But then anyway, this is just a warning. I think it's the new account that should be worrying, they are yet to be checked.

There has to be a casino that will allow those from China or Middle Easterners to play without using a VPN. But for now, they will continue until there is one.


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August 28, 2023, 05:29:12 PM
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I think the issue with gambling casinos and VPN usage have been so discussed that I feel everyone by now should know which casino to use VPN on and which not to use the same on , for me personally though, I deleted every VPN I used to have, both on my mobile phone and personal computer , I never wanna be tempted to use VPN on any casino, or maybe mistakenly forget to turn the VPN off after using it for other stuffs, then unknowingly access my gambling casino account with it, a casino have once seized a over $25,000 belong to a friend of mine simply for accessing the casino with a VPN, it took over 8 months before the casino returned the money , and this was after my friend had spent thousands of dollars on procuring the different types of documents he was asked to submit for verification, since that experience, I swore never to be a victim to such .

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August 28, 2023, 05:32:49 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
using VPN on many online gambling sites is strictly prohibited, this is because the system detects you are cheating, now in several countries there are many gambling sites that are blocked for reasons of legality, the best way for you to be able to play on the gambling site you want to play is to contact the support team of the site and then ask them whether their site has an alternative link to avoid using a VPN.
because at this time the competition in the gambling business is very tight, the support team from many gambling sites continues to make improvements to customer complaints, so don't hesitate to always make contact with the support team from your favorite gambling site.

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There are many countries where casino is not allowed and you should play casino with utmost privacy. Some countries have laws in this regard where the police will directly jail you if you are caught playing in a casino. However it is possible to directly participate in online casino by adopting privacy. Moreover if you use VPN, there will be more security in that case the government of that country will not be able to track you. Although casino sites do not accept IP from all countries, i was checking it.
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There are many countries where casino is not allowed and you should play casino with utmost privacy. Some countries have laws in this regard where the police will directly jail you if you are caught playing in a casino. However it is possible to directly participate in online casino by adopting privacy. Moreover if you use VPN, there will be more security in that case the government of that country will not be able to track you. Although casino sites do not accept IP from all countries, i was checking it.

Mostly in some Islamic based countries,the gambling is not a legal one.Some people from that countries had no other option then use the gambling with some privacy,this is not because of the fear.They just not want their community people to think them different,the important factor is they will play win the mind voice.In some countries the people get jailed for just playing gambling,the rule is against the gambling made by their own government.In such countries people can play their liked game using the VPN.Then the police will not find you and you can play many game based on the money with you.We should not get capture to the government,if the gambling is illegal one in your countries.Incase gambling was illegal one,you may use the VPN but don’t use VPN to scam the website.

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Some gambling platforms provide mirror links to use. Apart from those provided links using a VPN to access any of the gambling platform will land you at some problem some day. Maybe for now this couldn't be a big issue.

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There are many countries where casino is not allowed and you should play casino with utmost privacy. Some countries have laws in this regard where the police will directly jail you if you are caught playing in a casino. However it is possible to directly participate in online casino by adopting privacy. Moreover if you use VPN, there will be more security in that case the government of that country will not be able to track you. Although casino sites do not accept IP from all countries, i was checking it.

if you are using VPN and the casino itself has no clear stand on this, then you should be very careful as it may cause some investigations in your account when you start winning big. who knows? or if they clearly stated on their ToS about non-usage of VPN, then, if something happens in your account, then you are the one liable for what happened.
you can't accuse the site of freezing your funds or of that sort if it is on their terms. when you opted to use this route, you are subjecting yourself to further scrutiny.

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August 28, 2023, 06:12:34 PM
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What do you think?
I believe that if the casino includes a mention in their TOS prohibiting the use of VPNs then it's advisable to refrain from using one. On the other hand if there's no such mention in the TOS, using a VPN is generally considered acceptable and the decision ultimately rests with you. I don't think there's an issue arising from using a VPN in the absence of explicit rules about its usage.

Speaking from my own experience, I've never felt the need to use a VPN while engaging with casinos. I haven't encountered any restrictions related to the gambling games I typically wager on and I haven't faced any obstacles that would necessitate the use of a VPN thus far.
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.

I use a VPN the whole time, even when there are no blocked websites in my country, because I trust more in giving my browsing data to an external VPN rather than give it to my local ISP.
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I don't log in with VPN active because I know they (the casino) can use it to deny my payment. I've seen it happen to people where they couldn't find anything wrong with their accounts or couldn't prove they were cheating, so they used an alleged VPN connection as a straw man argument to deny or delay their payment, quoting dishonest behavior and breaking of ToS.
If you have to use it, make sure you use it from the start with the same IP and that you go through KYC using that IP. At least then you'll have something to use against them, as you were constantly logging in from the same location, VPN or not.

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August 28, 2023, 08:04:09 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

There are game providers that block a country even though the player is not in a restricted region.  That is the reason for some players why they use VPN. But as for me, I won't dare to use a VPN just to access a certain game provider.  It is better to be safe than sorry.


Yes, it's better to look for games or online casino places that allow our country to open without a VPN. But if the country where we live has been banned, then just stay away, and blacklist from the list of places to play, it will be safer. because there are still plenty of places to play safely according to the Tos. Even casino providers provide a special domain when the domain normally used is blocked by the ISP of the local country.
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August 28, 2023, 08:55:12 PM
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Talking to customer support for VPN inquiry is the right thing to do.  Just like what @DoublerHunter did when he inquire about the use of VPN to access the casino platform.  VPN working does not mean it is ok to use it, we have seen complaints here about their account getting suspended due to the use of VPN in circumventing their access to the platform.

If the customer support discourage us to us VPN or answered in somehow vague statement, I think we must always choose the safer option and that is to not use VPN unless the customer support confirm that it is really allowed to use it.
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August 28, 2023, 10:08:21 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
If there's no such thing about mentioning VPN then people or gamblers do really assume that it is really just that fine to make use of it to cover up your real IP but on the time that you do see that they had restricted
your country on playing on such site then its safe to presume that there's really a prohibition even though there's no thing stated on TOS about VPN's but using up your own common sense would really be telling you that

you should really not make use of it if you dont like for some troubles.This is where people do usually trap off themselves on the time that they would really be ignoring out such conditions on which they do
really do things that they do have in mind without even minding about the potential consequences on the time that they would get caught. For those users who do still keep on using such way or method
then its still lucky that they havent get caught but on the time that they would then for sure this is where regrets do really start to kick in. Wink

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