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August 28, 2023, 08:28:13 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

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August 28, 2023, 09:14:41 AM
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Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

What I think is that if a casino has verified an account which they know is using encrypted connection like virtual private network (VPN) on their website then they should not go back to pretend they didn't know about it. If the have done verification to see the user is not laundering money or doing some sort illegally but only trying to evade IP ban from his home country then it should not be a problem for the casino, after all they might have allowed such window for that kind of purpose.


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August 28, 2023, 09:19:10 AM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.
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August 28, 2023, 09:29:07 AM
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What I think is that if a casino has verified an account which they know is using encrypted connection like virtual private network (VPN) on their website then they should not go back to pretend they didn't know about it. If the have done verification to see the user is not laundering money or doing some sort illegal but only trying to evade the IP ban from his home country then it should not be a problem for the casino, After all, They might have allowed such a window for that kind of purpose.


Casinos are only interested in the activities of the players to see if they violate or manipulate any of their systems to take advantage and one of the major ways that the casino can be abused is through their bonuses system where abusers create multiple accounts just to claim the bonus,  that is why any attempt to use a different IP or trying to access some casinos using VPN may be seen as illegal on some casinos.

Note also if an account is already verified,  the player then does not have any problem as long as the gambler operates within the stipulated laws and abides by them and if there is any reason such player uses a VPN the casino may overlook that.
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August 28, 2023, 09:34:46 AM
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What do you think?

I ask the customer support about the use of a VPN even though the player was not in the restricted area. The customer support played it safe by referring to the clause that stated that the use of VPN to circumvent the region restriction is not allowed but I never got a yes as an answer if the player is not in the restricted area.

So I think it is better to be safe and avoid using VPN in order for us to not get any problems in the future.  

^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

There are game providers that block a country even though the player is not in a restricted region.  That is the reason for some players why they use VPN. But as for me, I won't dare to use a VPN just to access a certain game provider.  It is better to be safe than sorry.

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August 28, 2023, 09:37:34 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.
Reading a TOS is much better than listening to what people are saying because you might end up getting the wrong information. Your actions in a casino should be based on the TOS of the casino you're playing and never on people's opinions about the casino.

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Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.
It is better to ask support about the use of a VPN if you can't find the use of VPN on their TOS so you will be guided accordingly.

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Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?
VPN is IP manipulation and it is always associated with cheating casino bonuses so you must have a compelling and reasonable answer to use VPN if you are caught using VPN

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August 28, 2023, 09:49:38 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
Much better to read their TOS or ask them directly if they're allowing that. Having that clarification will give you the idea if that's really allowed or not.

And when they does then those influencers are right. If not, then that means that you just saved yourself from obtaining misinformation and you're able to clear it before you even does.

Some of them aren't really allowing it but I know that there are those that allows it, it's just all about checking it actually from those casinos per se.

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August 28, 2023, 09:49:46 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino?

This is not a statement enough to prove that their platform totally support for the use of VPN, they cannot sat at the fence, it's either they accept the use of VPN or they kicked against it completely, this will now depends on the statement on their ToS which would have clearly mentioned that they accept or doesn't accept the use of VPN, the question we should then also be desperate in asking is the reason why a user must make use of a VPN if not to byepass a sanction on their ip address, if a casino support your ip why the use of VPN, if they don't then why not make another attempts on many other available ones.

I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.A

If you're using VPN then know that it's at your own risk, ones you're caught be ready to dance to the tune of the music you play.

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August 28, 2023, 09:53:55 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I think that Stake has alternative links which you can access without a VPN as far as I know and even when I used to play at bet365 when in my country was restricted from ISP-s here,I could access them without a VPN so most likely beside Stake also other casinos most probably should have alternative links.

I would only use a VPN in the extreme case where I have no other means at all to access the website and accessing only a couple of times I doubt there is any problem with the casinos,as long as you have 2FA enabled that makes it even less suspicious as 2FA with Google Authenticator app and not with SMS is absolutely impossible to be bypassed.

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August 28, 2023, 10:10:35 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

You really need to read the terms and understand how each casino handles VPN usage, because some will ban it outright. Others may allow it but will definitely expect KYC verification and always tend to limit you to one account only, because they don't want bonus abuse to take place. However VPN usage can sometimes go undetected, alternatively it might be a red flag against your account that will cause the casino to undertake further investigations against you - if they can determine you are a user of this service. Generally there are very few scenarios where an average user would be using a VPN middleman service on their connect, unless they are trying to get around certain restrictions like geographic location.

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August 28, 2023, 11:05:34 AM
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The majority of casinos do not allow the use of VPN based on the terms that they put in there for their users to be aware of, but if it is not there we should not assume that the casinos allow it, We need to ask for support first and keep a record of the conversation and always check the TOS if they change their TOS regarding the use of VPN, if it's possible not to use VPN then do so, so you can protect your account in case there is an investigation about your account.

Casinos always limit disabled accounts that violate their terms so while you're playing in a casino, it is important that you keep the TOS in your mind.

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If I really needed to use VPN for a casino or any service online which involves money or finances I would try to first know in what country they are based and then do my own research whether if the authorities of that country actually enforce the prohibition of VPNs in the companies they are supposed to regulate.

Since we are talking about our data, money and security credentials, I would not risk using a VPN solely based on the behavior of the platform or the opinion/ experiences or other users/ gamblers. If this situation with Russia and the sanctions have taught me about, is that casinos can treat a costumer according to where they are connecting from.

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August 28, 2023, 11:14:33 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Much better to play safe and stay away using VPN since we don't know on when we might encounter a problem by using it so much better that we are sure to what we are doing while playing on those casino.

If you know your country has been restricted to access on casino then you should know that you are not allowed to play so don't think about using that since I think its not about the usage but the restriction due to the law set by certain countries which for us needed to follow.

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August 28, 2023, 11:20:37 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

The use VPN is already discussed many times on different casino ANN thread. Casino doesn’t specifically restrict users on using VPN. Only those bypassing their country restrictions through the use of VPN is what is not allowed and not the use of VPN itself for regular use alone. Casino has a license which includes a set a of country being restricted to play due to legal concern.

If you are not from restricted country then using VPN is not your problem. I’m using for a long time in all casino that I play. I never encounter this issue. Just make sure to avoid using VPN that use IP sharing because you might be connected to bunch of account that violate the casino ToS because your account will suffer same punishment.


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August 28, 2023, 11:25:01 AM
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Every business, from online casinos to multibillion-dollar empires, has its own implicit rules and strategies. Although these casinos may not explicitly state their position on VPNs, this does not necessarily entail approval. Why in the world would they exhibit something that is inherently illegal in many jurisdictions?

Now, let's discuss Stake. It is amazing, perhaps the best ; no, it is unquestionably the best. However, even though the grandeur and allure of gambling entice us, there is no reason not to be knowledgeable about it. Utilize a VPN? It is quite dangerous. If they choose to use it against you, you have no escape route

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August 28, 2023, 11:38:34 AM
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I guess you don't understand the reason why VPN is used by a casino users. Let me explain you the reason in simple language. Most countries have either banned online gambling or prohibit users to gamble on online casinos based overseas. In such situation a user from that country would use a VPN, without it they won't be able to access a casino website or hide themselves from the government.

Those casinos that you have named will ask their user to pass KYC. After they pass KYC only then they would be allowed to withdraw their win. Through the KYC verification they know the customer and in the event of illegal activities they would be provide the details to the concerned authorities.
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I think as long as KYC is completed and both parties agree that the user will use a VPN, it should be allowed, but as a rule of thumb, VPNs are very suspicious, especially if the user has not completed the KYC process. Should the user be gambling from a country which is not allowed by the terms and conditions of the mentioned casino, then obviously the casino owners would get into legal trouble for letting him play and withdraw on their platform. They have government regulations that they have to follow, after all. So when they see someone logging in with a different IP each time, it raises an eyebrow. Furthermore, it could trigger a false positive should the VPN IP come from a restricted country. Its a lot of confusion and trouble which can be avoided.

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August 28, 2023, 03:06:10 PM
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I guess you don't understand the reason why VPN is used by a casino users. Let me explain you the reason in simple language. Most countries have either banned online gambling or prohibit users to gamble on online casinos based overseas. In such situation a user from that country would use a VPN, without it they won't be able to access a casino website or hide themselves from the government.

Those casinos that you have named will ask their user to pass KYC. After they pass KYC only then they would be allowed to withdraw their win. Through the KYC verification they know the customer and in the event of illegal activities they would be provide the details to the concerned authorities.

I understand the concept of using a VPN for accessing online casinos, but it's important to note that the legality and ethical implications of such actions can vary based on local regulations. While using a VPN might allow users to bypass restrictions, it's not a foolproof method and can still raise concerns about compliance with both casino policies and legal standards. Additionally, KYC procedures are indeed implemented by many reputable casinos to ensure responsible and legal gambling practices. However, it's essential for users to be aware of the potential risks and consequences associated with using VPNs in this context.

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August 28, 2023, 03:23:59 PM
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Restrictions on the use of VPNs come primarily not from casinos, but from local authorities. I have a paid VPN and from some servers I can enter the casinos in which I am registered, and from some not. This is incredibly annoying, especially in my conditions when the state introduces total censorship and tries to ban all VPNs. The good thing is that big casinos always have a long list of mirrors that help to get around the restrictions.

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August 28, 2023, 04:02:23 PM
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Everything will start from checking the rules carried out by users so they know what is allowed and what is not allowed. If they want to use a VPN but the rules don't say anything about VPN, they can directly ask the support service and I'm sure they will give you the answers you need right away. Some casinos don't clearly write it down on their site, so we have to ask the support service. But some casinos only need your connection to the casino for the first time so that the casino can record your computer number or your IP or Mac Address or whatever (I don't know about this because I'm not too clear on this either).

If it is about crossing the line, maybe if you are from a country where gambling is not allowed, you should stay away from the casinos and never visit them, even though you can use a VPN. If your country allows gambling but the casino prohibits people from your country from gambling in the casino, you should not gamble in the casino even if you are using a VPN. You can get many things from asking the support service. Don't be shy to ask because they will answer it.
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August 28, 2023, 04:09:32 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Even if you keep on playing through VPN on gambling sites and not getting banned or something like that, it does not mean that you will keep on playing forever. Someday if you get caught, the gambling site will ban you and you will lose all the balance on that site.

The best approach is first to check with the gambling site if they allow VPN or not. If VPN is allowed on the gambling site then you can play using VPN else better avoid using it.
You can also get this information about VPN usage on the terms and conditions page on the casino's web site.

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August 28, 2023, 04:11:24 PM
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I tried using a VPN on Stake and if it's not from a country they support, they won't even let you log in.

Tried using Stake in UK, US, and German VPNs and they won't recognize your account if you're from another region. I'm from Asia and what works for me is only a Singapore VPN. Other countries, I would need to create an account for that specific jurisdiction.

While it's true that these casinos may allow you to use a VPN, they might just have a lot of 'regions' setup for different countries for compliance purposes. It's annoying, but I get what the casinos are trying to achieve. At least, they don't ban me for using VPN to access my accounts.

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August 28, 2023, 04:11:54 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

This is still a vague response by them. I have never heard that using a VPN could cause technical problems like the ones mentioned in the chat you shared. How would it cause errors in the gameplay?

When you ask why some people use VPN when gambling is legal in their country, it doesn't always have to do with the gambling itself. Using a VPN can be an additional layer of privacy protection although it's known that most providers share data when they claim they don't. But as a layer to not be fully naked on the Internet I believe that many people use it. The intention doesn't have to be one that involves manipulation of a location to get onto a gambling platform.

VPNs are so common that I wish gambling platforms had a clear stance on that. If they already say that VPNs could cause errors in gameplay "and some other aspects of the site", what could someone do when they claim that one of your wins was because of an error caused by your VPN?

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August 28, 2023, 04:17:04 PM
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There is a reason why using a VPN can be to open games on certain providers but it is not recommended if you want to be more secure then avoid VPNs even though the casino is friendly to VPNs, but there have been many cases that will later make your account suspicious and there can impose document verification on you.

I don't use a VPN to avoid what I don't want in there are some providers that can't be opened then I will choose other games, anyone looking at the TOS or asking first to live chat to make sure.

But I'm sure if you're an active VPN user you'll get stuck in a casino one day.

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August 28, 2023, 04:19:27 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
I hear this argument all the time and i think it's made by people who don't get the point. It would be illegal for casinos to approve citizens of sanctioned countries. If casinos would get caught doing that intentionally there would be trouble with a big T.

So it doesn't make any sense that they would risk it. What i gather is that those people are misunderstanding why vpn could be sometimes needed. Example if citizens of approved countries are visiting on restricting countries so their ip might get blocked and they could need a proxy workaround. I mean that's the only way i see it even being legal.

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August 28, 2023, 04:36:22 PM
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A few days ago I used a VPN for gambling because there was a ban on the casino. I used a free VPN and visited the site, but it didn't work, the site still blocked me. I tried on another site and it worked. Is there any difference between using a paid VPN and a free VPN to access gambling sites?

If you are in a country where gambling is allowed, I don't think it's necessary to use a VPN. Even so, using a VPN or not is a personal need, some people really value their privacy so they are more comfortable with a VPN. But I agree with what you said, we should look at the ToS, whether their site allows using a VPN or not.

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August 28, 2023, 04:51:07 PM
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Even if you keep on playing through VPN on gambling sites and not getting banned or something like that, it does not mean that you will keep on playing forever. Someday if you get caught, the gambling site will ban you and you will lose all the balance on that site.

The best approach is first to check with the gambling site if they allow VPN or not. If VPN is allowed on the gambling site then you can play using VPN else better avoid using it.
You can also get this information about VPN usage on the terms and conditions page on the casino's web site.


Some gamblers use the option of vpn to play the same game with different user name.Actually to my opinion it’s not the good one,we should not take the chance of the other people.Instead you can ask your brothers or sisters to play the gambling along with you.If they win also leads to the chance of money get into to your family pocket.

Mostly the website itself find the VPN usage and block the account.Some gamblers will enjoy to play using the VPN and earn more win from it.But as you said,if any had their huge winnings in the website.After the capture by the website owners,the entire money which he earned will be loss.The website will block the withdraw along with the ban their account.So try to play the gambling with some ethics in order to avoid such ban.

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August 28, 2023, 05:27:13 PM
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What would be the reason for them to get caught right now when they have been using VPN for a long time?
They have been using it for a long time and I assume they have also won amounts within that duration, I'm sure their accounts would have been examined by the staff when they won but still, they continue playing. But then anyway, this is just a warning. I think it's the new account that should be worrying, they are yet to be checked.

There has to be a casino that will allow those from China or Middle Easterners to play without using a VPN. But for now, they will continue until there is one.


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August 28, 2023, 05:29:12 PM
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I think the issue with gambling casinos and VPN usage have been so discussed that I feel everyone by now should know which casino to use VPN on and which not to use the same on , for me personally though, I deleted every VPN I used to have, both on my mobile phone and personal computer , I never wanna be tempted to use VPN on any casino, or maybe mistakenly forget to turn the VPN off after using it for other stuffs, then unknowingly access my gambling casino account with it, a casino have once seized a over $25,000 belong to a friend of mine simply for accessing the casino with a VPN, it took over 8 months before the casino returned the money , and this was after my friend had spent thousands of dollars on procuring the different types of documents he was asked to submit for verification, since that experience, I swore never to be a victim to such .

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August 28, 2023, 05:32:49 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
using VPN on many online gambling sites is strictly prohibited, this is because the system detects you are cheating, now in several countries there are many gambling sites that are blocked for reasons of legality, the best way for you to be able to play on the gambling site you want to play is to contact the support team of the site and then ask them whether their site has an alternative link to avoid using a VPN.
because at this time the competition in the gambling business is very tight, the support team from many gambling sites continues to make improvements to customer complaints, so don't hesitate to always make contact with the support team from your favorite gambling site.

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There are many countries where casino is not allowed and you should play casino with utmost privacy. Some countries have laws in this regard where the police will directly jail you if you are caught playing in a casino. However it is possible to directly participate in online casino by adopting privacy. Moreover if you use VPN, there will be more security in that case the government of that country will not be able to track you. Although casino sites do not accept IP from all countries, i was checking it.
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There are many countries where casino is not allowed and you should play casino with utmost privacy. Some countries have laws in this regard where the police will directly jail you if you are caught playing in a casino. However it is possible to directly participate in online casino by adopting privacy. Moreover if you use VPN, there will be more security in that case the government of that country will not be able to track you. Although casino sites do not accept IP from all countries, i was checking it.

Mostly in some Islamic based countries,the gambling is not a legal one.Some people from that countries had no other option then use the gambling with some privacy,this is not because of the fear.They just not want their community people to think them different,the important factor is they will play win the mind voice.In some countries the people get jailed for just playing gambling,the rule is against the gambling made by their own government.In such countries people can play their liked game using the VPN.Then the police will not find you and you can play many game based on the money with you.We should not get capture to the government,if the gambling is illegal one in your countries.Incase gambling was illegal one,you may use the VPN but don’t use VPN to scam the website.

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Some gambling platforms provide mirror links to use. Apart from those provided links using a VPN to access any of the gambling platform will land you at some problem some day. Maybe for now this couldn't be a big issue.

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There are many countries where casino is not allowed and you should play casino with utmost privacy. Some countries have laws in this regard where the police will directly jail you if you are caught playing in a casino. However it is possible to directly participate in online casino by adopting privacy. Moreover if you use VPN, there will be more security in that case the government of that country will not be able to track you. Although casino sites do not accept IP from all countries, i was checking it.

if you are using VPN and the casino itself has no clear stand on this, then you should be very careful as it may cause some investigations in your account when you start winning big. who knows? or if they clearly stated on their ToS about non-usage of VPN, then, if something happens in your account, then you are the one liable for what happened.
you can't accuse the site of freezing your funds or of that sort if it is on their terms. when you opted to use this route, you are subjecting yourself to further scrutiny.

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August 28, 2023, 06:12:34 PM
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What do you think?
I believe that if the casino includes a mention in their TOS prohibiting the use of VPNs then it's advisable to refrain from using one. On the other hand if there's no such mention in the TOS, using a VPN is generally considered acceptable and the decision ultimately rests with you. I don't think there's an issue arising from using a VPN in the absence of explicit rules about its usage.

Speaking from my own experience, I've never felt the need to use a VPN while engaging with casinos. I haven't encountered any restrictions related to the gambling games I typically wager on and I haven't faced any obstacles that would necessitate the use of a VPN thus far.
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.

I use a VPN the whole time, even when there are no blocked websites in my country, because I trust more in giving my browsing data to an external VPN rather than give it to my local ISP.
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I don't log in with VPN active because I know they (the casino) can use it to deny my payment. I've seen it happen to people where they couldn't find anything wrong with their accounts or couldn't prove they were cheating, so they used an alleged VPN connection as a straw man argument to deny or delay their payment, quoting dishonest behavior and breaking of ToS.
If you have to use it, make sure you use it from the start with the same IP and that you go through KYC using that IP. At least then you'll have something to use against them, as you were constantly logging in from the same location, VPN or not.

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August 28, 2023, 08:04:09 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

There are game providers that block a country even though the player is not in a restricted region.  That is the reason for some players why they use VPN. But as for me, I won't dare to use a VPN just to access a certain game provider.  It is better to be safe than sorry.


Yes, it's better to look for games or online casino places that allow our country to open without a VPN. But if the country where we live has been banned, then just stay away, and blacklist from the list of places to play, it will be safer. because there are still plenty of places to play safely according to the Tos. Even casino providers provide a special domain when the domain normally used is blocked by the ISP of the local country.
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Talking to customer support for VPN inquiry is the right thing to do.  Just like what @DoublerHunter did when he inquire about the use of VPN to access the casino platform.  VPN working does not mean it is ok to use it, we have seen complaints here about their account getting suspended due to the use of VPN in circumventing their access to the platform.

If the customer support discourage us to us VPN or answered in somehow vague statement, I think we must always choose the safer option and that is to not use VPN unless the customer support confirm that it is really allowed to use it.
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
If there's no such thing about mentioning VPN then people or gamblers do really assume that it is really just that fine to make use of it to cover up your real IP but on the time that you do see that they had restricted
your country on playing on such site then its safe to presume that there's really a prohibition even though there's no thing stated on TOS about VPN's but using up your own common sense would really be telling you that

you should really not make use of it if you dont like for some troubles.This is where people do usually trap off themselves on the time that they would really be ignoring out such conditions on which they do
really do things that they do have in mind without even minding about the potential consequences on the time that they would get caught. For those users who do still keep on using such way or method
then its still lucky that they havent get caught but on the time that they would then for sure this is where regrets do really start to kick in. Wink

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I mean, it'd probably be better to ask the ToS? Just look at stake for example,
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14.4 The attempt to manipulate your real location through the use of VPN, proxy, or similar services or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence, with the intent to circumvent geo-blocking or jurisdiction restrictions, constitutes a breach of Clause 5 of this Terms of Service.

Clearly states it's a breach of clause 5, which is about the usage of their site on allowed locations/jurisdictions. Yes, you can circumvent this via VPN, and you can probably get away with it, but don't ask why you got "banned" when you, in the first place, didn't follow their ToS. VPN working does not mean it's allowed. VPN in the first place is used to bypass geo-blocking restrictions, and "bypass" isn't exactly a term I'd use if they were "VPN-friendly"


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August 28, 2023, 11:07:27 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
Just a little bit side note on here on which i did tend to make some research on those mentions but among those which is that CasinoGap. which i do believe is this https://casinogap.org/non-gamstop-casinos/
which we do know that it isnt really that a casino but rather a affiliate or review site which it doesnt really fit out itself on the team or listed or mentioned casinos.

On Stake.
14.4 The attempt to manipulate your real location through the use of VPN, proxy, or similar services or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence, with the intent to circumvent geo-blocking or jurisdiction restrictions, constitutes a breach of Clause 5 of this Terms of Service.
Source: https://stake.com/policies/terms

On Fortunejack.
Prohibited teritories
https://fortunejack.com/faq/prohibited-territories
Each provider does have their own set of countries which arent allowed. So there's no point on using up VPN and make yourself get caught.

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August 28, 2023, 11:14:34 PM
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Talking to customer support for VPN inquiry is the right thing to do.  Just like what @DoublerHunter did when he inquire about the use of VPN to access the casino platform.  VPN working does not mean it is ok to use it, we have seen complaints here about their account getting suspended due to the use of VPN in circumventing their access to the platform.

If the customer support discourage us to us VPN or answered in somehow vague statement, I think we must always choose the safer option and that is to not use VPN unless the customer support confirm that it is really allowed to use it.
I think a casino will be very happy to suspend an account that has a big fund in it. Sometimes we are nit ready to abstain from a casino because of the restricted regions that are not allowed to use the casino but that can make us to go extra miles to use VPN in order to access the site which can work for us for some time. It is very important for us to always take a safety notice of not leaving funds in the casino account so that in case it got suspended, we are not going to bear any loses. If we keep funds there and the account got suspended, it is not going to be easy for us at all.

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August 29, 2023, 04:42:35 AM
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I read the TOS and didn't see anything there about using VPN. Nevertheless, I am not against working with casinos via VPN. The fact is that this does not carry risks, because the VPN stream is also encrypted, and stealing your data from it is not as easy as it seems. I use several personal VPNs, because in my country there is very strict censorship in relation to casinos, even for access to Bitcointalk you need a VPN, not to mention Roobet, Stake and other gambling sites. It is annoying that VPN often stop working and they need to be changed. But for this I use WireGuard.

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August 29, 2023, 04:56:24 AM
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I think if using vpn is not against the rules it can be used without hesitation. Yeah casino companies will definitely and strongly discourage you to do it. Its not because they hate people using vpn - they are  probably okay with it. BUT, there are many legal binding gambling companies need to face. So they are forced to discourage use of vpn. Its little bit grey are because of all these. But I think there won't be big issues if you use it.
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August 29, 2023, 06:33:09 AM
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Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

Why would you use a VPN, if online gambling is allowed in your country?
If you have to use a VPN in order to access an online casino, this means that your Internet Service Provider(ISP) is restricting your access to online gambling platforms, in accordance to you country's legislation and regulations.
Using a VPN to access a gambling website means that you are breaking the laws of your country. The online casino might take your deposits and even allow you to withdraw your profits, but what if the VPN company reports your browsing history to your country's authorities?
I know that this is close to impossible to happen, but some VPN companies don't delete your browsing data.

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August 29, 2023, 07:07:33 AM
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Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

VPNs became such a big boom during the Covid lockdowns when everybody was at home and wanted to surf the internet freely. I can understand that people are concerned about their personal information and want to protect themselves. The issue with using VPNs for gambling is that your IP is likely to going to change every time you log into the casino. This could already flag your account for suspicious activities and might lead to problems later on. Personally, I stopped using VPNs when gambling because the risk is too high for me that there is an issue when I try to withdraw my winnings. The question is also if we use VPNs to secure our personal information, or to circumvent a gambling ban in our country. In case of gambling not being allowed in our country, then the casino could also be in trouble if we ever want to withdraw our money. The larger the money we use gambling the more I would try to be correct about following all the rules. Losing 50 USD because we can't withdraw it from the casino is one thing, but if our winnings are 1 or 2,000 USD it would hurt terribly.


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August 29, 2023, 07:36:52 AM
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I read the TOS and didn't see anything there about using VPN. Nevertheless, I am not against working with casinos via VPN. The fact is that this does not carry risks, because the VPN stream is also encrypted, and stealing your data from it is not as easy as it seems. I use several personal VPNs, because in my country there is very strict censorship in relation to casinos, even for access to Bitcointalk you need a VPN, not to mention Roobet, Stake and other gambling sites. It is annoying that VPN often stop working and they need to be changed. But for this I use WireGuard.
If there is nothing about using a VPN, you can still use a VPN. But you have to be careful with your country's regulations because I noticed very strict censorship regarding casinos. Don't get yourself in trouble with your government for using a VPN to access casinos or other sites.

It's really annoying if there are restrictions from our country in accessing anything on the internet and so far, VPNs have really helped people to be able to access these sites. For this reason, we must be careful when using a VPN because the government may still be watching its people. Maybe they haven't taken any action for the people and are still waiting and looking at the situation in your country.

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August 29, 2023, 07:51:04 AM
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I think if using vpn is not against the rules it can be used without hesitation. Yeah casino companies will definitely and strongly discourage you to do it. Its not because they hate people using vpn - they are  probably okay with it. BUT, there are many legal binding gambling companies need to face. So they are forced to discourage use of vpn. Its little bit grey are because of all these. But I think there won't be big issues if you use it.
Yes, I think the use of a VPN is not a problem for some casinos, but we will never know the changes that occur in the casino, it's best if the ISP doesn't prohibit us from accessing the casino, why use a VPN, just because we don't want to use the original IP, why so? must use a VPN because they basically save our browsing results too.

There are still many ways to access gambling sites even though ISPs block us from accessing gambling because we don't have to use a VPN and there are still many ways that might be much safer so that it doesn't become a problem in the future, I'm someone who always thinks about that and never wants to use a VPN for fear of serious problems It is not desirable especially for the casino to freeze our account and our deposit money.

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August 29, 2023, 10:34:19 AM
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You will never know, they might use it on you if you one day win a jackpot, I am not saying stake.com is capable of such an act but you will never know.

If you want to gamble on any online casino it's better to always play safe, VPN will one day ruin your gambling experience for you because.

Even premium VPN servers do some silly things too.

IP Address do change as time goes on.

Even DNS can change while you are still connected to a certain location.

Here is my question regarding VPN and casinos, are there some countries where you can't use a VPN to operate a casino? How will anyone know that I am connected via VPN to any online casino? If this is possible, then the government is spying on his on people, but which country upholds such laws?

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August 29, 2023, 05:46:20 PM
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Why would you use a VPN, if online gambling is allowed in your country?
If you have to use a VPN in order to access an online casino, this means that your Internet Service Provider(ISP) is restricting your access to online gambling platforms, in accordance to you country's legislation and regulations.
Using a VPN to access a gambling website means that you are breaking the laws of your country. The online casino might take your deposits and even allow you to withdraw your profits, but what if the VPN company reports your browsing history to your country's authorities?
I know that this is close to impossible to happen, but some VPN companies don't delete your browsing data.

You say that like it's a bad thing to break the law  Grin
You are too subjective in this matter. If you live in a civilized country that respects human rights, then this does not mean that everyone lives in such countries. Probably in most countries of the world people suffer from the oppression of groups that have seized power, so breaking the law is not something bad, but just a way to exercise their rights.

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August 29, 2023, 06:01:35 PM
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But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?
Why would you use a VPN, if online gambling is allowed in your country?
If you have to use a VPN in order to access an online casino, this means that your Internet Service Provider(ISP) is restricting your access to online gambling platforms, in accordance to you country's legislation and regulations.
Using a VPN to access a gambling website means that you are breaking the laws of your country. The online casino might take your deposits and even allow you to withdraw your profits, but what if the VPN company reports your browsing history to your country's authorities?
I know that this is close to impossible to happen, but some VPN companies don't delete your browsing data.

You say that like it's a bad thing to break the law  Grin
You are too subjective in this matter. If you live in a civilized country that respects human rights, then this does not mean that everyone lives in such countries. Probably in most countries of the world people suffer from the oppression of groups that have seized power, so breaking the law is not something bad, but just a way to exercise their rights.
Law is given by people with authority and in this industry  those are gambling site owners or providers. If it is law in general then we would mostly be guilty given that gambling as an activity is prohibited to many countries so what makes us better than others? Also, those who are using Vpn are the ones at risk of being taken advantage of simply because of irregularities with network and overall accessibility to the site.

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August 29, 2023, 06:08:58 PM
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Casino today could be planning to have mirrors just like Stake where they do have a lot of it with different domain extensions. If there is .BTC domain, they would have gotten it already.

The gamblers who risk their funds just so they can play I think are really the kind of gamblers who are hard to the core which the casinos are also not going to betray, these are the gamblers who are going to convince the rest of the flocks to play on their platform despite the country blocking them. These are the gamblers who will recommend to use of VPN to their fellow countrymen. Casinos wouldn't want to trick these gamblers, they are loyal gamblers to be.

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But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?
Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.

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August 29, 2023, 06:24:29 PM
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maybe there are already some right answers but in my personal opinion I do sometimes use VPN to access certain sites when I want to unblock sites but for Stake I very rarely use VPN because Stake has several mirror sites that I can easily use according to my IP . this means that there are several choices of sites that I can choose to still be able to access the Stake site without VPN making it easier for customers to avoid VPN and there is a channel in the Stake telegram about the mirror site.

for me using a VPN is a little insecure because one day if there is a problem with withdrawals or deposits this will be a major problem related to using a VPN so I very rarely use a VPN preferring to gamble safely on the right site rather than force using a VPN.

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August 29, 2023, 06:48:07 PM
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But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?
Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.
Let assume that the country banned their citizens access to a particular gambling site, and some citizens in that country decided to use VPN to access the casino, I don't think there is any problem with that, I mean the casino in particular should not have a problem with that, the only time that can become a problem particularly for the user or users is when for whatever reason, the casino asks for a KYC verification, and this is only because the location in the document used for the verification will be different from the location, IP such user have been accessing the casino with, this is the only area where i think problem might arise from..

One time Nigerian government banned the citizens access to twitter, several of us turned to VPN to access our twitter accounts, there was never a problem, though this can not be compared to gambling casinos though, the only time i feel using VPN can become really problematic is when its the casino that banned the use of VPN in their site, and some gamblers from restricted areas decide to use VPN to access and play on the same casino.

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August 29, 2023, 07:08:52 PM
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But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?
Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.
Only a few would really be having that reasoning that just because they do love on hiding up their IP location on why they do make use of VPN compared to those people who do have restricted access due to country ban.
There's no sense that people would be making use of VPN if they arent really that restricted considering that most IP providers do give out that dynamic and not static ip address which it could really changed out on the time that you would really be able to reset out the router on which it would really be just that normal that they wont really be bothering themselves in regarding to this matter. Whenever you do see that there's on their terms and conditions in regarding about country restriction then why would really be forcing up yourself to play if there are lots of options out there on which you could really be able to play on? Why would really be trying out
to break those terms and conditions of a certain site and pushing for you to play even if its against their house rules? This is why dont get shocked if you have been caught and suddenly blocked and those funds been locked up. People wont really bother about the risks involved as long  they could really be able to play.Well, its their money to make use of and have the full rights on what they should gonna do though.

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Everything's gonna make more sense if it's officially authorized by the casino, just like you said...
They'd prevail in court if it were to be a big problem tomorrow - it can somehow be a liverage since there are no clues on how to spot this accounts easily - yessss, I didn't say there are no ways to do so. The other way round, the rules of anonymity Is totally broken and some confidential informations, stand a chance to be leaked - should anything fishy is perceived. we've got alot of sites that don't even care about your existence...lol

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August 29, 2023, 10:27:33 PM
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There are game providers that block a country even though the player is not in a restricted region.  That is the reason for some players why they use VPN. But as for me, I won't dare to use a VPN just to access a certain game provider.  It is better to be safe than sorry.

This is the reason why I used to use VPN in the past in duelbits and stake. It was because I wanted to play Relax Gaming, No Limit City and Push Gaming, all these 3 were not be able to be played from my original IP while I love these 3 providers much in the past. Nowadays only relax gaming that I cant play with my original IP, but I do not play relax gaming anymore now so I do not have to use VPN again. In the past, I asked support first before I used VPN. At that time support said that it is fine, but I'm not really sure about now because there might be a change in the terms of the casinos.

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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
I don't have much to say about it and don't want to beat around the bush either; avoid VPNs if you don't want to get yourself into trouble.

If you've read the TOS of the gambling platform you're visiting and you can't find them banning VPNs - then maybe using it is a safe practice. But VPNs are banned in some casinos - meaning you should avoid them regardless of your reason for using them. The best gamblers are the ones who don't violate the rules of the casino they're spending their money on including not using a VPN - however gamblers can still be banned for other reasons until they can no longer use their accounts because they are frozen.

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If they don't allow VPN usage on their terms, just don't use it. It's simple like that. The problem is that people don't care about what they can do and what they can't do, acting like they wish and crying loud after, once they have funds freezed by the platform for breaking the rules. Then the platform is accused of scamming gamblers when they make profit and want to withdraw the money. However, it was primarily gambler's fault to not follow the house's rules, even though it's true sometimes casinos start blocking users only after they start profiting. The key is: stay clean and they won't have justifications to sabotage you.

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August 29, 2023, 11:18:07 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

What is your main concern? If you think using a VPN will put your account at risk, even if it's allowed at the said site, then just simply don't use it. Knowing the terms and conditions related to VPN is a must but if you are not really sure what to do then you can totally ignore using VPN, for your own safety.

There are VPN-friendly sites and those sites you mentioned are examples. As long as the usage is detected from a supported country, no problem at all.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

What specifically do you mean about being "safe"?

Safe from security-related issues or safe from accounts not being banned?

Again, how accounts will be subject to a ban if they just used a VPN where in the first place, it was allowed by the gambling site? Also as I mentioned, as long as it's not used for anything crappy reason, users are freely to used VPN. Skip totally on using if users don't know about the terms.
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August 29, 2023, 11:25:04 PM
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What do you think?
It's not the safest way to gamble, but it pays off if the casino allows you to play on their casino for a long time because, like you've said, only a few are VPN-friendly. Those gamblers probably understand the risk of using a VPN since they've also read the terms and conditions of other casinos, so they should know what's possibly coming to their account. It's also a win on the side of the casino because it's another way to get new users playing in their casino when the others are very strict with their rules and that makes me think they're unlikely to enforce the VPN rule.

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August 29, 2023, 11:33:29 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I don't use VPN at the casinos where I have an account and I play regularly, so I can't tell you in practice if that would be an issue or not.
However, I can give you my opinion on what I think would be right....

The first point is: using VPN is not illegal, I don't know of any country that mentions this practice as a crime or infraction, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Casinos can add this restriction, for whatever reason, but if this is not explicit in the terms of use of the site then I believe that they should never block you or withhold your money just because you are using a VPN. They could associate VPN use with some other illegal practice and they will certainly find proof of this if you are found guilty.

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August 30, 2023, 02:01:35 AM
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If they don't allow VPN usage on their terms, just don't use it. It's simple like that. The problem is that people don't care about what they can do and what they can't do, acting like they wish and crying loud after, once they have funds freezed by the platform for breaking the rules. Then the platform is accused of scamming gamblers when they make profit and want to withdraw the money. However, it was primarily gambler's fault to not follow the house's rules, even though it's true sometimes casinos start blocking users only after they start profiting. The key is: stay clean and they won't have justifications to sabotage you.
But it's silent or not specifically mentioned in the terms which is the main argument in the OP.

The representative from one of the casinos mentioned already clarified the matter and it's down to the purpose of using VPN. They allow on cases of protecting privacy and security but not on cases of bypassing the restriction on countries where online gambling is illegal.

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August 30, 2023, 02:44:38 AM
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Stake.com does not accept VPN connections. Wherever source you get that from it's probably just lying to you. You will get yourself banned by doing this.
Most online gambling sites don't accept VPNs. What's the use of country restriction if they will let all the people get in just by using a VPN?
I have seen many cases of this trying to get back their money after using a VPN, you don't want to be in that position because it will be a restless document compilation to send to the gambling site asking for proof that it's really you and they won't stop at just simple identification. So, just avoid using this. If you cannot use their site then find another one, a reputable one.

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August 30, 2023, 04:13:14 AM
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VPNs are a pretty hot button issue at the moment. There have been proposals in the United States to limit their use but as far as I know they’re still perfectly legal to use. This is a case where technology is just out in front of regulation and I’m sure as regulators get younger and more familiar with current technology more clear guidance will be issued.

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August 30, 2023, 04:34:35 AM
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But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?
Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.
Only a few would really be having that reasoning that just because they do love on hiding up their IP location on why they do make use of VPN compared to those people who do have restricted access due to country ban.
There's no sense that people would be making use of VPN if they arent really that restricted considering that most IP providers do give out that dynamic and not static ip address which it could really changed out on the time that you would really be able to reset out the router on which it would really be just that normal that they wont really be bothering themselves in regarding to this matter. Whenever you do see that there's on their terms and conditions in regarding about country restriction then why would really be forcing up yourself to play if there are lots of options out there on which you could really be able to play on? Why would really be trying out
to break those terms and conditions of a certain site and pushing for you to play even if its against their house rules? This is why dont get shocked if you have been caught and suddenly blocked and those funds been locked up. People wont really bother about the risks involved as long  they could really be able to play.Well, its their money to make use of and have the full rights on what they should gonna do though.

It is that people in the world have to accept that things when trying to access a casino, exchange or something like that, if you cannot because your country is prohibited, it should not be a problem to use the VPN, because the VPN is the only way these players have to be able to do their job, and play and do other things, in fact the regulations are for the isoes, they should not be for the casinos, in fact the people who are from prohibited countries are normal people who They like to play, they like good games and they have the money to play, so that should be enough, the only thing that is a big advantage is that decentralized casinos can play from anywhere in the world, and they can do all their things naturally without so much problem, now with the licenses, with the authorities, that if the casino is in X country, they have to comply with the rules imposed by them that do not have any kind of understanding, I think something, the Whoever plays in a casino is because he plays with his own money, he does not do it because the casino gives him things, that is something that must be seen and has to be assimilated, therefore when we do everything related to casinos that do They allow the use of the VPN and congratulations, as I said before, even though they are very good, with an incredible reputation, they always accept players who have VPN.

The world and people have become twisted because they do not accept things that are emergencies, or the only way that some people have to play, which is to accept and accept the use of the VPN, but fortunately like the industry Of the cities are very small as competition increases, and those that do allow Vpn will obviously like them more than those that are completely closed, so who loses in the end? The people who are in the prohibited areas ? No , the ones who lose are the casinos that follow those nonsensical regulations to the letter, for that and many more reasons is that casinos sometimes go bankrupt.

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August 30, 2023, 04:54:01 AM
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If they don't allow VPN usage on their terms, just don't use it. It's simple like that. The problem is that people don't care about what they can do and what they can't do, acting like they wish and crying loud after, once they have funds freezed by the platform for breaking the rules. Then the platform is accused of scamming gamblers when they make profit and want to withdraw the money. However, it was primarily gambler's fault to not follow the house's rules, even though it's true sometimes casinos start blocking users only after they start profiting. The key is: stay clean and they won't have justifications to sabotage you.
But it's silent or not specifically mentioned in the terms which is the main argument in the OP.

The representative from one of the casinos mentioned already clarified the matter and it's down to the purpose of using VPN. They allow on cases of protecting privacy and security but not on cases of bypassing the restriction on countries where online gambling is illegal.
Because the problem of violating restrictions in countries that prohibit online gambling is clear, so users still can't complain about anything because that's also written in the regulations in casinos. If they could understand that they shouldn't, they would not have such a problem and would still be able to gamble elsewhere. But what often happens is that users still visit the casino because they have found the comfort of playing gambling at the casino so they use a VPN to continue to gamble at the casino. This triggers such problems so that even the customers accuse the casino of being irresponsible or even a scam casino because the customers have had problems like that even though they were the ones who started it until they got the problem. It is very important to follow the rules in the casino to avoid problems that may make us uncomfortable playing gambling at the casino.

And the only thing we can do is look for other casinos that can allow VPN use so we won't have any problems. Some users find it convenient to use a VPN to hide their IP while gaming and avoid surveillance by their internet provider. But it can get them into trouble if they don't want to realize it.

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August 30, 2023, 05:17:40 AM
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It's best if you read the TOS on the casino platform in question to find out their rules regarding the use of a VPN, because some allow it but some don't. But as far as I know, the casino platform you mentioned does not recommend using a VPN on their platform because it can cause errors or any other reason. It's best if it's not too important you can avoid using a VPN, but if circumstances force it, for example to bypass a ban in a country, you can use it, but you have to take the risk because it can get your account banned due to suspicious activity.

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August 30, 2023, 05:19:41 AM
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I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.

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What do you think?
I read the TOS and didn't see anything there about using VPN. Nevertheless, I am not against working with casinos via VPN. The fact is that this does not carry risks, because the VPN stream is also encrypted, and stealing your data from it is not as easy as it seems. I use several personal VPNs, because in my country there is very strict censorship in relation to casinos, even for access to Bitcointalk you need a VPN, not to mention Roobet, Stake and other gambling sites. It is annoying that VPN often stop working and they need to be changed. But for this I use WireGuard.
If there is nothing about using a VPN, you can still use a VPN. But you have to be careful with your country's regulations because I noticed very strict censorship regarding casinos. Don't get yourself in trouble with your government for using a VPN to access casinos or other sites.

It's really annoying if there are restrictions from our country in accessing anything on the internet and so far, VPNs have really helped people to be able to access these sites. For this reason, we must be careful when using a VPN because the government may still be watching its people. Maybe they haven't taken any action for the people and are still waiting and looking at the situation in your country.

Using a VPN and due to the fact that the government prohibits certain services is an additional headache for the average user, including me in a similar situation. You have to constantly look for working VPN, and if one of them works today, it does not mean that it will work tomorrow. You are right, there is a possibility that the government will start asking you questions and fine you. Most of all, I don't like the following application: hackers through an unnamed vpn (if it uses the standard point—to-point PPTP tunneling protocol) can hack your channel and receive data. At the same time, they can wait for decent money to be on your gaming account, and only after that they will be hacked. I had this but with a Jaxx wallet.

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August 30, 2023, 08:42:12 AM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.
How can VPN lead to errors in your gameplay and overall, how can it affect your experience? I think she just wants people to avoid VPN and that's why she says what she says. Overall, if you use a VPN with dedicated IP, I think casinos won't be able to know whether you use a VPN or not but if they ask you for KYC documents, then you really shouldn't be from banned countries in order to avoid problems and account freeze. But I also must say that dedicated IP from VPN doesn't really make you anonymous because that IP is tracked back to you. By doing that, you simply hide from your ISP that you are gambling but your VPN provider really knows what you actually do, it's 50/50 whether they log you or not but what increases your anonymity when you use VPN is the use of shared IPs but if you use shared IPs on casino, there is a very high chance that you use the blacklisted one and your account will get banned.
So, anyways, be smart whatever you decide to do.

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Using a VPN and due to the fact that the government prohibits certain services is an additional headache for the average user, including me in a similar situation. You have to constantly look for working VPN, and if one of them works today, it does not mean that it will work tomorrow. You are right, there is a possibility that the government will start asking you questions and fine you. Most of all, I don't like the following application: hackers through an unnamed vpn (if it uses the standard point—to-point PPTP tunneling protocol) can hack your channel and receive data. At the same time, they can wait for decent money to be on your gaming account, and only after that they will be hacked. I had this but with a Jaxx wallet.
I also experienced this before but after I saw that there was a provider's card that could help me get past the ban, I finally used the service from that provider. I didn't break it, did I? Grin

But if you want to use a VPN, you should use a paid VPN so that your privacy is better maintained and you won't be fighting over connections with other people. Moreover, the price of paid VPNs is now not too expensive anymore because there is competition among these VPN companies so they are competing to provide satisfying services at affordable prices.

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August 30, 2023, 09:45:13 AM
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If they don't allow VPN usage on their terms, just don't use it. It's simple like that. The problem is that people don't care about what they can do and what they can't do, acting like they wish and crying loud after, once they have funds freezed by the platform for breaking the rules. Then the platform is accused of scamming gamblers when they make profit and want to withdraw the money. However, it was primarily gambler's fault to not follow the house's rules, even though it's true sometimes casinos start blocking users only after they start profiting. The key is: stay clean and they won't have justifications to sabotage you.
Apart from the fact that people don't care, many people still can't sacrifice some minutes to read through casinos terms and conditions, They get tired of reading when they open ToS because it's full of words, and yet they plan to use VPN on their own, I don't know how they come up with the idea when the online casino is not saying anything about using VPN or Not, I will like to ask a casino customer care services about this question and see how they will respond to it, just for fun sake.

Rules and regulation is very important in every aspect, either online or offline, keeping to the rules and regulations will safe gamblers from someone taking advantage of them, it's just like the cop at stop and search routine, if you don't break any rules and the cop still want to deal with you, maybe because of hates or other reasons they will start finding every possible way to get you nailed, the only way to stay ahead of them is you not breaking a single rule.

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What do you think?
Stake Casino has quite a list of mirror sites and so far it has worked very well for me, so I don't need to use a VPN to access Stake casino, whereas for fortunejack yes I have to use a VPN to enter my account, and also several other casinos where I play.
Casinos are accustomed to using this tag line because they know that most players prefer to hide their real IP not to cheat but more to privacy.
As long as you are not from the list of countries that are prohibited from playing at the casino then everything will be fine, while KYC in my opinion is another thing and has nothing to do with using a VPN, the casino will indeed ask for KYC even if the player doesn't use a VPN to follow the rules of the casino license is registered.
If a player is worried that using a VPN will endanger their account, then ask more specifically about the problems they will face if they use a VPN directly from the casino's support agent.

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What do you think?
Stake Casino has quite a list of mirror sites and so far it has worked very well for me, so I don't need to use a VPN to access Stake casino, whereas for fortunejack yes I have to use a VPN to enter my account, and also several other casinos where I play.
Casinos are accustomed to using this tag line because they know that most players prefer to hide their real IP not to cheat but more to privacy.
As long as you are not from the list of countries that are prohibited from playing at the casino then everything will be fine, while KYC in my opinion is another thing and has nothing to do with using a VPN, the casino will indeed ask for KYC even if the player doesn't use a VPN to follow the rules of the casino license is registered.
If a player is worried that using a VPN will endanger their account, then ask more specifically about the problems they will face if they use a VPN directly from the casino's support agent.

A few messages up we have seen this user asking whether it is an issue to use VPN.

^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

Which as you said is the right thing to do when there is uncertainty about using it. But honestly what value does this answer from the support agent provide? The answer is almost mystic, it is a riddle that nobody can solve.

When the support agent already comes up with something like "VPN usage can cause technical problems with gameplay and other things running on our site" or so, they are practically telling you that whenever they want, they can play a card against you that you can't prove to be wrong. What if you win big and they say

"we had a glitch in our technology and sadly, we found out that you have been using a VPN, which causes technical problems on our site. We had to void your winnings."

What then? They could even claim that they said so publicly. Everyone would then attack the person complaining about denied payouts.

"See, they told you so, you are to blame!"

But seriously, why would a VPN interfere with their on-site technology that it could cause real technical difficulties? I haven't seen nor have I heard that before.

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August 30, 2023, 11:58:27 AM
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But if you want to use a VPN, you should use a paid VPN so that your privacy is better maintained and you won't be fighting over connections with other people. Moreover, the price of paid VPNs is now not too expensive anymore because there is competition among these VPN companies so they are competing to provide satisfying services at affordable prices.
but still somehow it is not safe. I mean using a VPN will be a problem in the long term, for example, maybe currently it is safe to access using a VPN but in the future when we get a big win and want to withdraw it, the casino will definitely ask for time to verify your winnings and when investigated you use VPN and be big problem refusing to withdraw your big winnings.
even though the price of a premium VPN is now relatively cheap, I still avoid using a VPN for gambling in the long term.

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August 30, 2023, 04:07:27 PM
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You say that like it's a bad thing to break the law  Grin
You are too subjective in this matter. If you live in a civilized country that respects human rights, then this does not mean that everyone lives in such countries. Probably in most countries of the world people suffer from the oppression of groups that have seized power, so breaking the law is not something bad, but just a way to exercise their rights.
Law is given by people with authority and in this industry  those are gambling site owners or providers. If it is law in general then we would mostly be guilty given that gambling as an activity is prohibited to many countries so what makes us better than others? Also, those who are using Vpn are the ones at risk of being taken advantage of simply because of irregularities with network and overall accessibility to the site.

Maybe our own opinion? If we want to fully trust the states, then why do we need decentralization and bitcoin? I myself determine what is normal for me, and if there is some kind of moronic law, then for me it does not represent something sacred - its violation is only the price for access to what I need. If I am willing to pay this price, then I take the risk, if not, then no.

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August 30, 2023, 04:17:26 PM
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Stake.com does not accept VPN connections. Wherever source you get that from it's probably just lying to you. You will get yourself banned by doing this.
Most online gambling sites don't accept VPNs. What's the use of country restriction if they will let all the people get in just by using a VPN?
I have seen many cases of this trying to get back their money after using a VPN, you don't want to be in that position because it will be a restless document compilation to send to the gambling site asking for proof that it's really you and they won't stop at just simple identification. So, just avoid using this. If you cannot use their site then find another one, a reputable one.
It's unfavorable at our end to use VPN, because it have 90% chances that it would definitely lead to the bans and restrictions on our online gambling accounts. What's the essence of using a Virtual Private Network when one can easily use the default data network connection to complete an online tasks. It's not advisable to make use of VPNs for usage of online gambling sites. It's strictly against the terms and conditions of these gambling sites, we just have to make good use of our time to have knowledge of the positive and negatives effects of VPNs before jumping into using them.

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August 30, 2023, 04:21:32 PM
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I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.
Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.

Generally, it's wiser to refrain from using a VPN as I don't see a genuine need for its use, especially among gamblers who can legally access gambling sites within their countries. However, if accessing such sites is restricted and a VPN is the only option, remember that using it is on your own risk.Wink
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Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.
Let assume that the country banned their citizens access to a particular gambling site, and some citizens in that country decided to use VPN to access the casino, I don't think there is any problem with that, I mean the casino in particular should not have a problem with that, the only time that can become a problem particularly for the user or users is when for whatever reason, the casino asks for a KYC verification, and this is only because the location in the document used for the verification will be different from the location, IP such user have been accessing the casino with, this is the only area where i think problem might arise from..

One time Nigerian government banned the citizens access to twitter, several of us turned to VPN to access our twitter accounts, there was never a problem, though this can not be compared to gambling casinos though, the only time i feel using VPN can become really problematic is when its the casino that banned the use of VPN in their site, and some gamblers from restricted areas decide to use VPN to access and play on the same casino.
There's no problem with that if the country has banned online gambling since it's not the platform that has banned the country so it's the other way around.

But as for the verification, you're right with that. The casino has the rights to ask their users from those countries that have banned gambling for follow ups for their own purposes.

Only a few would really be having that reasoning that just because they do love on hiding up their IP location on why they do make use of VPN compared to those people who do have restricted access due to country ban.
There's no sense that people would be making use of VPN if they arent really that restricted considering that most IP providers do give out that dynamic and not static ip address which it could really changed out on the time that you would really be able to reset out the router on which it would really be just that normal that they wont really be bothering themselves in regarding to this matter. Whenever you do see that there's on their terms and conditions in regarding about country restriction then why would really be forcing up yourself to play if there are lots of options out there on which you could really be able to play on? Why would really be trying out
to break those terms and conditions of a certain site and pushing for you to play even if its against their house rules? This is why dont get shocked if you have been caught and suddenly blocked and those funds been locked up. People wont really bother about the risks involved as long  they could really be able to play.Well, its their money to make use of and have the full rights on what they should gonna do though.
Those that would like to hide their IP locations, I don't think that they're few. With the security matters and issues that has been known these days, many are starting to be conscious with their own security.

That's it's normal for them to hide their ip address, we can see this question like a regular question into those casinos if they're okay with that or not.

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August 30, 2023, 09:54:45 PM
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I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.
Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.

Generally, it's wiser to refrain from using a VPN as I don't see a genuine need for its use, especially among gamblers who can legally access gambling sites within their countries. However, if accessing such sites is restricted and a VPN is the only option, remember that using it is on your own risk.Wink
Don't try this because there are certain cases already that the gambler able to play using VPN and when he is about to withdraw the money, he was restricted due to this violation so again, if you are not allowed to play on that site better not to push it or try other way just to gamble on that site because its not safe at all. If you are going to gamble with your money better to follow the TOS, read it and understand it so you won't regret playing on that site if something bad happen to your account.

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August 30, 2023, 09:59:26 PM
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I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.
Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.

Generally, it's wiser to refrain from using a VPN as I don't see a genuine need for its use, especially among gamblers who can legally access gambling sites within their countries. However, if accessing such sites is restricted and a VPN is the only option, remember that using it is on your own risk.Wink
Don't try this because there are certain cases already that the gambler able to play using VPN and when he is about to withdraw the money, he was restricted due to this violation so again, if you are not allowed to play on that site better not to push it or try other way just to gamble on that site because its not safe at all. If you are going to gamble with your money better to follow the TOS, read it and understand it so you won't regret playing on that site if something bad happen to your account.
If there's no such thing about words about VPN restriction or something then it would really be just that fine on using but why you would really be using VPN if you could be able to play on your own without using those?
Hiding identity or IP or simply just you dont like for your location to be exposed? Its true that it would be better on playing without having these things so that they wont really be having a reason for them to throw on
on the time that you would really be winning big.Dont find any possible holes on which they could really be making it as a reason for you not to be get paid. If you dont bother that much with your anonymity then it
would really be totally no sense that you would be making use of VPN on which this is something that cant really be avoided on the probabilities that they could really make use of such reasoning for you not to get paid.
So its better to avoid while its still early or else you might really be ending up on regretting basing up on what you are really that able to done.

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August 30, 2023, 10:02:20 PM
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I don't use VPNs for stuff like that. It's just counterintuitive especially when it comes to dealing with centralized crypto casinos like stake, they'd literally ask you for identification including a proof of residency, there's no point in "using a VPN to throw them off" when your static IP stays the same all throughout. I'm not saying you should stop using VPNs altogether, as they work really well if you're looking for content that is region blocked like movies on netflix and whatnot, but beyond that? I don't see any good reason really.

For one it just slows your internet connection down since now it has to be rerouted into a proxy server before you could do your normal google searching, on the other hand it's a massive hassle to work with even if it just takes "one click".

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August 31, 2023, 12:51:10 AM
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but still somehow it is not safe. I mean using a VPN will be a problem in the long term, for example, maybe currently it is safe to access using a VPN but in the future when we get a big win and want to withdraw it, the casino will definitely ask for time to verify your winnings and when investigated you use VPN and be big problem refusing to withdraw your big winnings.
even though the price of a premium VPN is now relatively cheap, I still avoid using a VPN for gambling in the long term.
It could happen because withdrawing a large amount of money will attract the attention of the casino so they want to investigate and make sure before they process the withdrawal. And when casinos want to verify winnings by asking gamblers to do KYC, that's where most gamblers complain that the casinos are trying to cheat them. The use of a VPN may be clearly written in the casino rules so gamblers should already know about it. Yes, the price of a premium VPN is currently relatively cheap but if the casino allows it, it can be taken into consideration to use a VPN. But if the casino doesn't allow it, we don't need to use a VPN to visit the casino and gamble there.

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why you would really be using VPN if you could be able to play on your own without using those?
Hiding identity or IP or simply just you dont like for your location to be exposed? Its true that it would be better on playing without having these things so that they wont really be having a reason for them to throw on
It can be a complicated consideration for someone in some cases. For example, you actively get passive benefits that are proven promising such as staking or dividends, while unfortunately a new casino rule must prohibit you from next week according to your new state policy so that their business remains from legal sanctions. As a result, this change of rule will clearly harm you.

But for compulsive gamblers, they will try to break through restrictions, especially when it is a favorite platform for a long time, an easy solution is to use VPN.

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why you would really be using VPN if you could be able to play on your own without using those?
Hiding identity or IP or simply just you dont like for your location to be exposed? Its true that it would be better on playing without having these things so that they wont really be having a reason for them to throw on
It can be a complicated consideration for someone in some cases. For example, you actively get passive benefits that are proven promising such as staking or dividends, while unfortunately a new casino rule must prohibit you from next week according to your new state policy so that their business remains from legal sanctions. As a result, this change of rule will clearly harm you.

But for compulsive gamblers, they will try to break through restrictions, especially when it is a favorite platform for a long time, an easy solution is to use VPN.

Well, there are many ways to think that the use of the VPN is for bad things, but no, if I, for example, really like being anonymous and being completely anonymous, without leaving traces that can secure me, if I wanted to enter a casino with the same protocol that is used to enter the deepweb, well the casino should accept it, I want to enter like this and neither the casino nor any country should restrict me the way I want to enter, I don't see it well, so they do all this governments with the intention of taking control, not just because players are compulsive and want to do something like that, no, if a player is compulsive and wants to do something similar with or without VPN, they will do it, the technological tools are made is to use them and that is just that governments, banks, third parties, among others, do not like it, so sometimes people think that a VPN is only for doing evil and no, you have to change the approach a bit with respect to that , that sometimes you want to enter a casino, from a country that is prohibited, yes, because the right to have fun should never be diminished, it is a right, I could not say someone who is sitting on a throne or something like that.

I have used the VPN and many times, uff too many, not only for casinos, for excahnges, for many other things, and nothing bad happens, so Sometimes people's Perceptions are Inadequate.


We as gamers do want to enter a gaming Platform using the VPN, we can do it , Perhaps with that we avoid the way that they give our location through VPN, and that for a hacker because it is difficult, and everything to avoid robberies, taking, for me it is welcome, and of course, they are tools that should not be left there, without using them, if they are had it is for use and to give them a correct use, that is why I say something, the time will come for casinos to accept  They are all in their entirety that players from prohibited countries can enter, because there are too many clients that they leave or Outside.

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September 01, 2023, 08:48:06 PM
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There are game providers that block a country even though the player is not in a restricted region.  That is the reason for some players why they use VPN. But as for me, I won't dare to use a VPN just to access a certain game provider.  It is better to be safe than sorry.
^ This ! I experienced the issue on Pragmatic Play provider but lately I found out that some local gambling sites now allows Pragmatic Play with no issues. When I say local gambling sites, it means they only accept digital payment methods which are mostly available here in my country.

Good thing that some of them now allows USDT. Who knows? Maybe they will also consider BTC and other cryptos soon. It will still be better if I can play the said provider in my favorite crypto casinos because I'm more confident with them and I have less or no doubts at all that the game results are being manipulated. Another reason on why a gambler can use a VPN is due to connection issues.

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play by the rules, but some countries do prohibit entering gambling sites so they use a VPN to access gambling websites. it doesn't matter, there should be no cheating in using a vpn . it has no impact on their assets, wins or losses. it's just that some people think it's like cheating.
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I don't use VPNs for stuff like that. It's just counterintuitive especially when it comes to dealing with centralized crypto casinos like stake, they'd literally ask you for identification including a proof of residency, there's no point in "using a VPN to throw them off" when your static IP stays the same all throughout. I'm not saying you should stop using VPNs altogether, as they work really well if you're looking for content that is region blocked like movies on netflix and whatnot, but beyond that? I don't see any good reason really.

For one it just slows your internet connection down since now it has to be rerouted into a proxy server before you could do your normal google searching, on the other hand it's a massive hassle to work with even if it just takes "one click".
For people tht have high urge for gambling, it might be very difficult for them to comply to some certain rules even though there region is restricted from using a particular gambling site. If they are enjoying some benefits from the site especially there favorite games and good winnings, they would have to look for other means like using VPN to make sure that they keep enjoying the benefits they had been having since. It is very hard for some people to leave an be old gambling platform they had been using for a long time for another one. Some persons don't easily adapt.

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September 01, 2023, 09:18:19 PM
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play by the rules, but some countries do prohibit entering gambling sites so they use a VPN to access gambling websites. it doesn't matter, there should be no cheating in using a vpn . it has no impact on their assets, wins or losses. it's just that some people think it's like cheating.
It is simply because your country is restricted and you are trying to access the site even if you are not allowed in the first place, again you have to play by the rules and if you are not allowed to gamble then better not to try. There are cases already that those who gamble using VPN suffer from a loss because the site caught then and they can’t withdraw their money anymore because they violated the rules in the first place.
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why you would really be using VPN if you could be able to play on your own without using those?
Hiding identity or IP or simply just you dont like for your location to be exposed? Its true that it would be better on playing without having these things so that they wont really be having a reason for them to throw on
It can be a complicated consideration for someone in some cases. For example, you actively get passive benefits that are proven promising such as staking or dividends, while unfortunately a new casino rule must prohibit you from next week according to your new state policy so that their business remains from legal sanctions. As a result, this change of rule will clearly harm you.

But for compulsive gamblers, they will try to break through restrictions, especially when it is a favorite platform for a long time, an easy solution is to use VPN.

Well, there are many ways to think that the use of the VPN is for bad things, but no, if I, for example, really like being anonymous and being completely anonymous, without leaving traces that can secure me, if I wanted to enter a casino with the same protocol that is used to enter the deepweb, well the casino should accept it, I want to enter like this and neither the casino nor any country should restrict me the way I want to enter, I don't see it well, so they do all this governments with the intention of taking control, not just because players are compulsive and want to do something like that, no, if a player is compulsive and wants to do something similar with or without VPN, they will do it, the technological tools are made is to use them and that is just that governments, banks, third parties, among others, do not like it, so sometimes people think that a VPN is only for doing evil and no, you have to change the approach a bit with respect to that , that sometimes you want to enter a casino, from a country that is prohibited, yes, because the right to have fun should never be diminished, it is a right, I could not say someone who is sitting on a throne or something like that.

I have used the VPN and many times, uff too many, not only for casinos, for excahnges, for many other things, and nothing bad happens, so Sometimes people's Perceptions are Inadequate.


We as gamers do want to enter a gaming Platform using the VPN, we can do it , Perhaps with that we avoid the way that they give our location through VPN, and that for a hacker because it is difficult, and everything to avoid robberies, taking, for me it is welcome, and of course, they are tools that should not be left there, without using them, if they are had it is for use and to give them a correct use, that is why I say something, the time will come for casinos to accept  They are all in their entirety that players from prohibited countries can enter, because there are too many clients that they leave or Outside.

You make good points about VPNs, notably privacy and security. You're right, but only partially. VPNs provide additional security, especially in cryptocurrency exchanges where anonymity can defend against threats. Its not just for bad things; its crucial to our digital toolkit. The claim that casinos or governments shouldnt prohibit its use is complicated.

Remember that restrictions are there for a purpose. The main goals are fraud prevention, anti-money laundering, and responsible gaming. Although obsessive behavior will exist, VPNs inhibit a significant amount of illegal activity. Its not about governments "liking" VPNs; its about transaction trust and legality.

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This is the importance of reading the terms and agreement, adding with the FaQs so you can get an idea if the VPN is supported for the platform, if they support the use of the VPN make sure your VPN only has one IP address most likely cause is the users makes a different country to login with their account consider with different IP giving by their VPN and those login make suspicious to the platform and possible they tag the account as suspicious activity and possible freeze even the balance of it. But if you are registered in just single iP and once get detected still the same there's might a lower chance that your account still safe.

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September 02, 2023, 12:42:11 PM
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play by the rules, but some countries do prohibit entering gambling sites so they use a VPN to access gambling websites. it doesn't matter, there should be no cheating in using a vpn . it has no impact on their assets, wins or losses. it's just that some people think it's like cheating.
It is simply because your country is restricted and you are trying to access the site even if you are not allowed in the first place, again you have to play by the rules and if you are not allowed to gamble then better not to try. There are cases already that those who gamble using VPN suffer from a loss because the site caught then and they can’t withdraw their money anymore because they violated the rules in the first place.
@Johnyz is correct because it could harm us later if the casino finds out that we have used a VPN to be able to play gambling at the casino. And when we win big, we may be asked to do KYC, especially if we are from a country where gambling is prohibited and we are using a VPN. Therefore, it is better for us to find a casino that allows us to use a VPN to avoid future problems. We can also look for other casinos that accept our country so we don't need to use a VPN at all. And when we do KYC, we can also directly provide the documents to the casino.

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September 02, 2023, 01:22:50 PM
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play by the rules, but some countries do prohibit entering gambling sites so they use a VPN to access gambling websites. it doesn't matter, there should be no cheating in using a vpn . it has no impact on their assets, wins or losses. it's just that some people think it's like cheating.
If the casino allow your country and only your local ISP are prohibit you to enter the casino, some of casinos already have mirror site, so you don't have to use VPN. There are some Web 3.0 casino or small casino that usually haven't yet get restricted by government.

Obviously using VPN has nothing to do with luck.

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This is the importance of reading the terms and agreement, adding with the FaQs so you can get an idea if the VPN is supported for the platform, if they support the use of the VPN make sure your VPN only has one IP address most likely cause is the users makes a different country to login with their account consider with different IP giving by their VPN and those login make suspicious to the platform and possible they tag the account as suspicious activity and possible freeze even the balance of it. But if you are registered in just single iP and once get detected still the same there's might a lower chance that your account still safe.
Once our account is detected as suspicious, we will certainly get in trouble and the worst thing to happen is to seize our funds. It was a violation of their rules which we don't have to break because the consequence is harsh which we really have to regret in the end. I think even some people do it successfully but I don't encourage doing it. We might not caught now or tomorrow as we are very careful of our IP and gadgets we use but can't be sure in the coming days.

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play by the rules, but some countries do prohibit entering gambling sites so they use a VPN to access gambling websites. it doesn't matter, there should be no cheating in using a vpn . it has no impact on their assets, wins or losses. it's just that some people think it's like cheating.
I agree no cheating should be done using VPN as it further degrades the quality of gambling sites. Many countries around the world do not allow access to gambling sites, but gamblers can easily access gambling sites by using a VPN. It's important to note that a VPN cannot protect you from this. If you have created an account without VPN for gambling, or created an account with VPN and logged in again and again without VPN, then the company may deactivate your account on suspicion of spam. Accessing a site with a VPN is a punishable offense if a site is state off or illegal.

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September 03, 2023, 11:35:16 PM
Last edit: September 04, 2023, 08:02:06 PM by Westinhome
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I agree no cheating should be done using VPN as it further degrades the quality of gambling sites. Many countries around the world do not allow access to gambling sites, but gamblers can easily access gambling sites by using a VPN. It's important to note that a VPN cannot protect you from this. If you have created an account without VPN for gambling, or created an account with VPN and logged in again and again without VPN, then the company may deactivate your account on suspicion of spam. Accessing a site with a VPN is a punishable offense if a site is state off or illegal.

We can’t say for sure,the gamblers who using the VPN re going to scam the gambling site.Because in some countries the casino and gambling site was banned,in such countries people may use the VPN for the game play.Only few VPN help to hide you from the gambling site,the rest will not.So some gambling site will find you easily.Even they will do ban your gambling account for the involvement of VPN usage.If you use multiple account in the same browser,you may get capture by some gambling site.So don’t use multiple accounts first,if you are forced to use multiple accounts.You can try of using accounts on different browsers for your safety.

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September 04, 2023, 03:39:03 AM
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I agree no cheating should be done using VPN as it further degrades the quality of gambling sites. Many countries around the world do not allow access to gambling sites, but gamblers can easily access gambling sites by using a VPN. It's important to note that a VPN cannot protect you from this. If you have created an account without VPN for gambling, or created an account with VPN and logged in again and again without VPN, then the company may deactivate your account on suspicion of spam. Accessing a site with a VPN is a punishable offense if a site is state off or illegal.
Creating gambling accounts with VPN is mostly not safe because you're about putting your accounts on a risks of 50/50. Cheating in gambling? Is it even possible for one to cheat in gambling. Perhaps there are important ways were we tend to find out the crucial ways to gamble with ease efforts, mostly preferring to online gambling. VPN are important in countries were the individuals there finds it difficult to gamble on games due to restricted measures place on gambling. It's important we tend to anticipate in what works for us and definitely not the activities that would make us lose money steadily.

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September 04, 2023, 04:22:41 AM
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I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.
Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.

I have never done this myself, as I tend to adhere strictly to the ToS. Then it is not surprising to see threads in the Scam Accusations section, where members accuse houses of scamming where you end up knowing that those members broke the rules in one way or another, as could be in this case playing from a country where it is forbidden (explicitly excluded in the ToS) and doing it with VPN to mask where they are playing from.

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play by the rules, but some countries do prohibit entering gambling sites so they use a VPN to access gambling websites. it doesn't matter, there should be no cheating in using a vpn . it has no impact on their assets, wins or losses. it's just that some people think it's like cheating.
I agree no cheating should be done using VPN as it further degrades the quality of gambling sites. Many countries around the world do not allow access to gambling sites, but gamblers can easily access gambling sites by using a VPN. It's important to note that a VPN cannot protect you from this. If you have created an account without VPN for gambling, or created an account with VPN and logged in again and again without VPN, then the company may deactivate your account on suspicion of spam. Accessing a site with a VPN is a punishable offense if a site is state off or illegal.
It is better not to use a VPN or your gambling account will be suspected of doing activities the casino prohibits. However, some people still want to cheat against the casino even though they know the consequences, namely that the casino will block their account. If your country is prohibited from gambling at that casino, you should look for another casino that does not prohibit people from your country from gambling at that casino. It is up to us to find the casino by looking for the one that suits us to avoid any future problems. Maybe we are still fine right now, but who can guarantee that we will still be comfortable playing on that site?
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Last edit: September 04, 2023, 07:22:04 PM by Westinhome
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It is better not to use a VPN or your gambling account will be suspected of doing activities the casino prohibits. However, some people still want to cheat against the casino even though they know the consequences, namely that the casino will block their account. If your country is prohibited from gambling at that casino, you should look for another casino that does not prohibit people from your country from gambling at that casino. It is up to us to find the casino by looking for the one that suits us to avoid any future problems. Maybe we are still fine right now, but who can guarantee that we will still be comfortable playing on that site?

The gamblers from the restricted country are forced to use the VPN to taste the gambling.The gamblers from the rest of the countries should not use the VPN in their game,because it’s never good for them.Because on finding the website will ban their account for sure,So all the dollars may be lose.Some casino will not ask the KYC in your country itself,you need to spend some time to find that casino.So you can play the gambling without any vpn,which is good for your account.Because account ban will get all your money without any reason,which will be the big pain for the gamblers.Only you don’t care about the ban,you can use of the VPN.But using the gambling site without the VPN will be the better option.

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I have never done this myself, as I tend to adhere strictly to the ToS. Then it is not surprising to see threads in the Scam Accusations section, where members accuse houses of scamming where you end up knowing that those members broke the rules in one way or another, as could be in this case playing from a country where it is forbidden (explicitly excluded in the ToS) and doing it with VPN to mask where they are playing from.

There are instances where they allow it but then suddenly there is a change in their terms and you are not aware of it, and you are accused of breaking the rules, to avoid this headache better subscribe to their newsletter and check their terms from time to time, the casino is proactive they will not consider that you are not aware of the change of terms.

I remember there was one accusation where the issue was the change of terms about the use of VPN and the complainant had a hard time recovering the funds, as much as possible do away with VPN if your country is not part of the restricted countries, you have to follow the rules all the time and always be aware of your action that will have a reason for the casino to accuse you of breaking their rules.

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September 04, 2023, 02:33:07 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.
The part in that Stake.com team's reply that says, "we  never suggest users to use VPN for anything other than their protection, but if you want to use it, we can not stop you.' This statement is very technical as they have already detached themselves from any problem that may arise with your account by your use of VPN.

 The "if" there for those that still will want to go on to use VPN implies that despite their not stopping you from using it you should be ready to claim responsibility of any loss or errors that may occur therewith. And by this they are backed by law to lay claims that may lead to the seizure of such VPN users funds in the account.

Gamblers should stick to a casino ToS to avoid long drama that may arise, if a casino's ToS are not sitting well with you you can check the next casino that meet your craving but make sure to be one with a good reputation.

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The gamblers from the restricted country are forced to use the VPN to taste the gambling.The gamblers from the rest of the countries should not use the VPN in their game,because it’s never good for them.Because on finding the website will ban their account for sure,So all the dollars may be lose.Some casino will not ask the KYC in your country itself,you need to spend some time to find that casino.So you can play the gambling without any vpn,which is good for your account.Because account ban will get all your money without any reason,which will be the big pain for the gamblers.Only you don’t care about the ban,you can use of the VPN.But using the gambling site without the VPN will be the better option.
However, those from restricted countries should be careful about using a VPN because it can cause problems down the line. They can't go around spending big money to gamble because their country's status prohibits gambling. If the casino finds out, maybe the gambling account will be immediately blocked, and they cannot withdraw the remaining money in the gambling account. It is better that they only deposit the small amount of money they can afford for gambling so that if there is a problem, it won't sadden them that they lost money in the casino. We must be aware of this and not let it be because we come from a country where gambling is prohibited, and we use a VPN to gamble in the casino. Many other casinos may allow us to gamble, and we also don't need to use a VPN to visit the casino. But it is their choice, and we can only suggest the best to them.
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why you would really be using VPN if you could be able to play on your own without using those?
Hiding identity or IP or simply just you dont like for your location to be exposed? Its true that it would be better on playing without having these things so that they wont really be having a reason for them to throw on
It can be a complicated consideration for someone in some cases. For example, you actively get passive benefits that are proven promising such as staking or dividends, while unfortunately a new casino rule must prohibit you from next week according to your new state policy so that their business remains from legal sanctions. As a result, this change of rule will clearly harm you.

But for compulsive gamblers, they will try to break through restrictions, especially when it is a favorite platform for a long time, an easy solution is to use VPN.

Well, there are many ways to think that the use of the VPN is for bad things, but no, if I, for example, really like being anonymous and being completely anonymous, without leaving traces that can secure me, if I wanted to enter a casino with the same protocol that is used to enter the deepweb, well the casino should accept it, I want to enter like this and neither the casino nor any country should restrict me the way I want to enter, I don't see it well, so they do all this governments with the intention of taking control, not just because players are compulsive and want to do something like that, no, if a player is compulsive and wants to do something similar with or without VPN, they will do it, the technological tools are made is to use them and that is just that governments, banks, third parties, among others, do not like it, so sometimes people think that a VPN is only for doing evil and no, you have to change the approach a bit with respect to that , that sometimes you want to enter a casino, from a country that is prohibited, yes, because the right to have fun should never be diminished, it is a right, I could not say someone who is sitting on a throne or something like that.

I have used the VPN and many times, uff too many, not only for casinos, for excahnges, for many other things, and nothing bad happens, so Sometimes people's Perceptions are Inadequate.


We as gamers do want to enter a gaming Platform using the VPN, we can do it , Perhaps with that we avoid the way that they give our location through VPN, and that for a hacker because it is difficult, and everything to avoid robberies, taking, for me it is welcome, and of course, they are tools that should not be left there, without using them, if they are had it is for use and to give them a correct use, that is why I say something, the time will come for casinos to accept  They are all in their entirety that players from prohibited countries can enter, because there are too many clients that they leave or Outside.

You make good points about VPNs, notably privacy and security. You're right, but only partially. VPNs provide additional security, especially in cryptocurrency exchanges where anonymity can defend against threats. Its not just for bad things; its crucial to our digital toolkit. The claim that casinos or governments shouldnt prohibit its use is complicated.

Remember that restrictions are there for a purpose. The main goals are fraud prevention, anti-money laundering, and responsible gaming. Although obsessive behavior will exist, VPNs inhibit a significant amount of illegal activity. Its not about governments "liking" VPNs; its about transaction trust and legality.

Yes, of course, what happens is that this reminds me a lot when casinos and many sites were made, the advantages of doing a KYC, which was for the same thing, I really have a very particular point of view because I know more or less that This is what governments are looking for, they always bring out these things to make a KYC look good and to make it look like the best option, of course, but the contras don't say it either, that anonymity ends, there is no privacy anymore, and there are people who don't care. They like that, they defend their privacy, they love their anonymity, in itself, what governments are looking for with this is a way to control what they cannot control, they know that if they know who people are using crypto, it is easier to catch them so that pay taxes, so what I base it on is, Satoshi left us Bitcoin, Blockchain technology so that we would be free from any controlled system, and we collaborate to accept things like this? That is what many people see, and from their own experience it is known that these things are not sold to protect the user, nor to do them good, those are the excuses that they make so that in a very diplomatic way they force them to that they have to do it, but they don't say what they really want, I do have a lot of experience with governments and banks that are like that, I know what they are looking for, I know what they want, that is why the KYC policies are not their fault of the casinos, but of the same regulations that are always there.

There are casinos that are not so demanding with the KYC, that have many things to obtain a good Service , Consequently , When it comes to these Things , Many Times they do not Understand it , and the truth is that I do not know , but a casino at least Adapts Government Conditions is much better, it should be more valued and it should be seen with more desire to get ahead , because Obviously it has more Freedoms, but to get certain licenses they have to stick to it , for example there are some licenses that do not allow users from other Countries , which seems to me a very bad and undignified act, but that's how it is.

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I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.
Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.

I have never done this myself, as I tend to adhere strictly to the ToS. Then it is not surprising to see threads in the Scam Accusations section, where members accuse houses of scamming where you end up knowing that those members broke the rules in one way or another, as could be in this case playing from a country where it is forbidden (explicitly excluded in the ToS) and doing it with VPN to mask where they are playing from.
Well, VPN usage have cost several gamblers money they never did expect they would lose, I personally deleted all the VPN apps I had on my devices after seeing several complaint about casino locking account and seizing funds simply because the user used VPN to access and play on the casino, I did this so that I will never make the mistake of forgetting that my VPN is still on, and then log into my casino account and start playing, and for fact that I have no important use for VPN after all did encourage me to do this..

Some, or should I say most online gambling casinos are like hungry lions, lying in wait for her supposed scape goat to come by so they can make the goat their prey, and the worst part is, they show no mercy,  a casino that have stated that accessing their platform through VPN is prohibited, will not look back when confiscating all the fund in the account, even when the users choice of using VPN did not affect them or their business in any way, they will still proceed to confiscate all your fund on the account that rules are rules ..

Some dubious casino even don't say anything about VPN usage in their terms of service, but when the find out a user is using VPN to play on their casino, they would quietly include the VPN restriction rule in their terms of service and then go after the users, this is majorly why I don't access casinos with VPN, whether the casino allows it or not, better safe than sorry .

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September 06, 2023, 03:40:53 PM
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I have never done this myself, as I tend to adhere strictly to the ToS. Then it is not surprising to see threads in the Scam Accusations section, where members accuse houses of scamming where you end up knowing that those members broke the rules in one way or another, as could be in this case playing from a country where it is forbidden (explicitly excluded in the ToS) and doing it with VPN to mask where they are playing from.

There are instances where they allow it but then suddenly there is a change in their terms and you are not aware of it, and you are accused of breaking the rules, to avoid this headache better subscribe to their newsletter and check their terms from time to time, the casino is proactive they will not consider that you are not aware of the change of terms.
Agree with you and in my sense such problems are not common in legit casinos. Because they always provide update news to the gamblers quickly. If there is a change in the rules of the casino, they must inform in advance. Every casino does this and anyone who doesn't do this must be at fault. But I have seen some complaints who speak against them without reading the terms and conditions and at some point they try to explain it as a scam. But when their affairs are investigated, all the allegations of the complainants are proved to be false. So in case of complaints, the trams and conditions should be read first.

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Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.

Generally, it's wiser to refrain from using a VPN as I don't see a genuine need for its use, especially among gamblers who can legally access gambling sites within their countries. However, if accessing such sites is restricted and a VPN is the only option, remember that using it is on your own risk.Wink
Don't try this because there are certain cases already that the gambler able to play using VPN and when he is about to withdraw the money, he was restricted due to this violation so again, if you are not allowed to play on that site better not to push it or try other way just to gamble on that site because its not safe at all. If you are going to gamble with your money better to follow the TOS, read it and understand it so you won't regret playing on that site if something bad happen to your account.

Privacy is important but there should be a stop if the system disallowed such thing. There is nothing wrong in using VPN, it's legal and that's why we see them deployed in Google play store and apple store but there are some casinos and sport bookies that don't want people to use it on their platform, it's always in their privacy and conditions because they know how important privacy is to people. Some gamblers don't bother to return ad between lines, they rather chase bonus than do the necessary.

If a casino says a country is restricted, there is no point to prove or be stubborn, leave quietly and make use of other betting platforms but some gamblers will prefer to use VPN to bypass this just to either enjoy the benefits and promotion and by the time the casino kick against them, they shed crocodile tears and play victim game that casino has cheated them when they are the ones that cheated in the first place.

The rule is simple, use VPN if they allowed you and when they don't, move to the next one. Infact, it's best to check this terms before making any deposit, check if KYC is required or not to avoid later story that will break the heart.

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The gamblers from the restricted country are forced to use the VPN to taste the gambling.The gamblers from the rest of the countries should not use the VPN in their game,because it’s never good for them.Because on finding the website will ban their account for sure,So all the dollars may be lose.Some casino will not ask the KYC in your country itself,you need to spend some time to find that casino.So you can play the gambling without any vpn,which is good for your account.Because account ban will get all your money without any reason,which will be the big pain for the gamblers.Only you don’t care about the ban,you can use of the VPN.But using the gambling site without the VPN will be the better option.
However, those from restricted countries should be careful about using a VPN because it can cause problems down the line. They can't go around spending big money to gamble because their country's status prohibits gambling. If the casino finds out, maybe the gambling account will be immediately blocked, and they cannot withdraw the remaining money in the gambling account. It is better that they only deposit the small amount of money they can afford for gambling so that if there is a problem, it won't sadden them that they lost money in the casino. We must be aware of this and not let it be because we come from a country where gambling is prohibited, and we use a VPN to gamble in the casino. Many other casinos may allow us to gamble, and we also don't need to use a VPN to visit the casino. But it is their choice, and we can only suggest the best to them.

The very sad and regrettable part that I have seen on this subject of VPN is that many representatives of new casinos that have a thread on this forum when they are asked by a member of this forum about the use of VPN even though they are in a country prohibited by the casino rules , the response from the casino representative here on the forum has been things like: there is no problem in using VPN even for people who are on the list of prohibited and restricted countries, but the problem with that is the fact that this is what the representative of the casino says, while in the casino tos they prohibit the use of vpn for people who are in restricted and prohibited countries

So I keep asking myself: what is worth more in the casino, is it the casino representative's word or the casino's tous? when the casino prevents the customer from withdrawing money they use their tos, this is because the tos is something written and a written agreement has more weight and importance than just a word made by the casino representative, that's why when I see a representative from a casino coming In this forum it says that the casino allows the use of VPN for people who live in restricted and prohibited countries even when the tos says otherwise, so I'm wondering why the casino doesn't also put in the tos that allow the use of VPN?

If we look carefully, we will see that nowadays it is difficult to find any casino website saying that they allow the use of a VPN, it appears that the VPN has already been banned by the license provider, and it is just my assumption, I could be wrong, but it is very It's strange that more than 50% of casinos don't state in their documents that they allow the use of VPNs, they just say that they allow the use of VPNs here on the forum but they don't include this in their documents.

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September 06, 2023, 05:47:44 PM
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Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.

Generally, it's wiser to refrain from using a VPN as I don't see a genuine need for its use, especially among gamblers who can legally access gambling sites within their countries. However, if accessing such sites is restricted and a VPN is the only option, remember that using it is on your own risk.Wink
Don't try this because there are certain cases already that the gambler able to play using VPN and when he is about to withdraw the money, he was restricted due to this violation so again, if you are not allowed to play on that site better not to push it or try other way just to gamble on that site because its not safe at all. If you are going to gamble with your money better to follow the TOS, read it and understand it so you won't regret playing on that site if something bad happen to your account.

Privacy is important but there should be a stop if the system disallowed such thing. There is nothing wrong in using VPN, it's legal and that's why we see them deployed in Google play store and apple store but there are some casinos and sport bookies that don't want people to use it on their platform, it's always in their privacy and conditions because they know how important privacy is to people. Some gamblers don't bother to return ad between lines, they rather chase bonus than do the necessary.

If a casino says a country is restricted, there is no point to prove or be stubborn, leave quietly and make use of other betting platforms but some gamblers will prefer to use VPN to bypass this just to either enjoy the benefits and promotion and by the time the casino kick against them, they shed crocodile tears and play victim game that casino has cheated them when they are the ones that cheated in the first place.

The rule is simple, use VPN if they allowed you and when they don't, move to the next one. Infact, it's best to check this terms before making any deposit, check if KYC is required or not to avoid later story that will break the heart.
But we know that human beings are really that hard headed kind of creatures on which it is really that part of the instinct that once you are really that interested into a particular thing then you would really be definitely be finding ways for you to be able to engage to it no matter what even if it means that you would really be bypassing their terms and conditions on which it is really that a risky thing to do knowing that you might get caught and would really be seized your fund by the casino once you do violate their terms and conditions.

Its is really that a common approach or scenario on which you would really be that crying and whining on the time that the casino would do such lock up but the thing on what you have done then it is really just
that right and its true that you would really be playing out that you are the victim here but the truth that you are the ones who had violated. This is why its always been that recommended that you should really abide with the rules so that you wont really be finding yourself on a condition on which you are really that gonna beg for your money to get back just because its been locked up since you had violated something.
Its true that if you do see that its prohibited, then why would really be going on or proceed on making use of something which isnt allowed? It doesnt really make sense.

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Firstly, most of popular sites have alternative link which is also known as "mirror link". So before using vpn, make an investigation about that website if it has Mirror link or not but need to be careful about phishing sites. Actually VPN is used for manipulation ip address which effects Stake/casino's policy, bonus, reference commission and others thing which little various for countries. Using vpn is okey for small amount but when you start winning big amout then your account will be tracked and they might ask for webcam verification or restrict account for policy violence issue which wasn't mention in their wensite rules but they do. So op is right

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Firstly, most of popular sites have alternative link which is also known as "mirror link". So before using vpn, make an investigation about that website if it has Mirror link or not but need to be careful about phishing sites. Actually VPN is used for manipulation ip address which effects Stake/casino's policy, bonus, reference commission and others thing which little various for countries. Using vpn is okey for small amount but when you start winning big amout then your account will be tracked and they might ask for webcam verification or restrict account for policy violence issue which wasn't mention in their wensite rules but they do. So op is right
Yes the major reason why some gambler use VPN is to bypass a restriction and this restrictions can come in number of ways,  such as in the form of their countries restriction on some site,  I have seen multiple casino where their site is not allow in my region and instead of to abide by the restrictions some gamblers will just decide to use VPN to bypass such restriction.

Another factor is,  gambler that want commit multi-counting on the casino could decide to use a VPN to hide their or her up.
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September 07, 2023, 06:16:35 AM
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Firstly, most of popular sites have alternative link which is also known as "mirror link". So before using vpn, make an investigation about that website if it has Mirror link or not but need to be careful about phishing sites. Actually VPN is used for manipulation ip address which effects Stake/casino's policy, bonus, reference commission and others thing which little various for countries. Using vpn is okey for small amount but when you start winning big amout then your account will be tracked and they might ask for webcam verification or restrict account for policy violence issue which wasn't mention in their wensite rules but they do. So op is right
Yes the major reason why some gambler use VPN is to bypass a restriction and this restrictions can come in number of ways,  such as in the form of their countries restriction on some site,  I have seen multiple casino where their site is not allow in my region and instead of to abide by the restrictions some gamblers will just decide to use VPN to bypass such restriction.

Another factor is,  gambler that want commit multi-counting on the casino could decide to use a VPN to hide their or her up.
I quite agree with you, another reason which I believe you missed is those who also want to hide or keep their privacy private, that is, their location or jurisdiction is not in the casino's restricted listed, but just for the sake of not wanting the casino to know the location they are gambling from, they will use VPN to hide their original IP address .

And this is also to state that not every gambler who uses a VPN uses it for the sole purpose of multi accounting, though this is still a very valid factor regardless.

There are some also that use VPN for the purpose of increasing their internet speed, this is common for those who live in areas with very poor local internet connection, connecting to a VPN network helps them to access the internet at a very much higher or better speed .

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AFAIK, some casinos strictly prohibit the usage of VPNs on their websites. However, in most cases, it is only prohibited when attempting to mask the real location for illegal purposes.

The risk is that you will most likely be asked for KYC verification in order for the casino to confirm your identity and the source of your funds. But if you pass it, I see no issue with using a VPN during your gambling sessions on any of the sites you mentioned.

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The very sad and regrettable part that I have seen on this subject of VPN is that many representatives of new casinos that have a thread on this forum when they are asked by a member of this forum about the use of VPN even though they are in a country prohibited by the casino rules , the response from the casino representative here on the forum has been things like: there is no problem in using VPN even for people who are on the list of prohibited and restricted countries, but the problem with that is the fact that this is what the representative of the casino says, while in the casino tos they prohibit the use of vpn for people who are in restricted and prohibited countries

So I keep asking myself: what is worth more in the casino, is it the casino representative's word or the casino's tous? when the casino prevents the customer from withdrawing money they use their tos, this is because the tos is something written and a written agreement has more weight and importance than just a word made by the casino representative, that's why when I see a representative from a casino coming In this forum it says that the casino allows the use of VPN for people who live in restricted and prohibited countries even when the tos says otherwise, so I'm wondering why the casino doesn't also put in the tos that allow the use of VPN?

If we look carefully, we will see that nowadays it is difficult to find any casino website saying that they allow the use of a VPN, it appears that the VPN has already been banned by the license provider, and it is just my assumption, I could be wrong, but it is very It's strange that more than 50% of casinos don't state in their documents that they allow the use of VPNs, they just say that they allow the use of VPNs here on the forum but they don't include this in their documents.
It's as if the new casinos don't want to make it difficult for people to register at their casino, so they easily say that even though there are already several people who are regular customers and intend to withdraw their winnings, that's where the real problem will arise and that's will make it difficult for its customers because they feel cheated by the casino. And, of course, that will make the good name of the new casino that has started to become bad because of this small but big misunderstanding that the new casino really has to clarify it properly so that people who want to register can know the truth.

The honesty of the casino will be more important than anything. If the casino representatives can tell the truth and have nothing to cover up, it will be better because potential users will know what to do about their casino. And if they want to continue registering at the casino, they already know the risks and consequences, so that they will obey the rules made by the casino. Well, it's normal for them to do something like that because their first target is to get as many customers as possible, and when the casino starts to gain a reputation, they will show the truth. And if that happens to the members here, they will feel cheated and just leave the casino and never come back.

Yes, I don't know about that. But we as users really have to ensure that we won't get into problems that can harm us later. But if there is a casino that can be honest about the situations and conditions in the casino, that will be very useful for us and can be considered. Perhaps we will still register as new members at the casino because we think they can be honest about the situation at the casino. It depends on how they can treat their customers well. Trust must be built, and it cannot be obtained in a short time.
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September 07, 2023, 08:33:31 PM
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I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.
Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.
I have never done this myself, as I tend to adhere strictly to the ToS. Then it is not surprising to see threads in the Scam Accusations section, where members accuse houses of scamming where you end up knowing that those members broke the rules in one way or another, as could be in this case playing from a country where it is forbidden (explicitly excluded in the ToS) and doing it with VPN to mask where they are playing from.
Me either but who wouldn't be? When our own money is at risk here and as well as our gambling accounts if we already build a good level of VIP on it. You are right that lots of scam accuse cases are from users who don't follow the rules properly. It's funny or crazy that these people have the guts to do it while those are truly got scammed or have experience a problem on a legit casino are rarely making a thread here.

Those people are more professional or too kind to let those type of casino but they will surely add those casinos on their black list. There must be a casino which are legal from our country. It only takes a bit of research or reading. There is no need to take more risk, as we are already taking more by playing a gambling.
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
For Stake it's quite confusing because Eddie is using a VPN in his streams to access it when he plays from Australia, since Stake blocks connections from this country.
But their ToS say it's not allowed
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14.4 The attempt to manipulate your real location through the use of VPN, proxy, or similar services or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence, with the intent to circumvent geo-blocking or jurisdiction restrictions, constitutes a breach of Clause 5 of this Terms of Service.
https://stake.com/policies/terms
So if you are losing money there I don't think you'll encounter issues but if you win money, especially at sportsbook you will very likely get your account locked.
The ToS of Fortunejack don't seem to talk about it, and they've made an article promoting it on their blog. So I guess it's allowed there.
https://fortunejack.com/blog/how-do-gamblers-benefit-from-vpn

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September 07, 2023, 10:12:52 PM
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I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.
Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.
I have never done this myself, as I tend to adhere strictly to the ToS. Then it is not surprising to see threads in the Scam Accusations section, where members accuse houses of scamming where you end up knowing that those members broke the rules in one way or another, as could be in this case playing from a country where it is forbidden (explicitly excluded in the ToS) and doing it with VPN to mask where they are playing from.
Me either but who wouldn't be? When our own money is at risk here and as well as our gambling accounts if we already build a good level of VIP on it. You are right that lots of scam accuse cases are from users who don't follow the rules properly. It's funny or crazy that these people have the guts to do it while those are truly got scammed or have experience a problem on a legit casino are rarely making a thread here.

Those people are more professional or too kind to let those type of casino but they will surely add those casinos on their black list. There must be a casino which are legal from our country. It only takes a bit of research or reading. There is no need to take more risk, as we are already taking more by playing a gambling.

It's hard to risk on something that will affect our funds in the future. It's better to fully comply with the casino TOS than to violate their rules just to pursue what we want. If we're living in an area where such casino is prohibited or if they don't support our country, better choose casinos that do rather than risk our funds through using VPNs which could also be the reason for us to lose everything in the future.
We should be skeptical, especially with anything that involves our funds rather than risking and trying to escape the TOS of each casino.
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September 07, 2023, 10:49:29 PM
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It's hard to risk on something that will affect our funds in the future. It's better to fully comply with the casino TOS than to violate their rules just to pursue what we want. If we're living in an area where such casino is prohibited or if they don't support our country, better choose casinos that do rather than risk our funds through using VPNs which could also be the reason for us to lose everything in the future.
We should be skeptical, especially with anything that involves our funds rather than risking and trying to escape the TOS of each casino.

I highly agree, if anything is vague we should always contact the support staff in order to clarify those things.  It is better safe than sorry.  And since the issue with VPN is always vague and the terms and condition only forbid those who are in restricted regions since it is illegal to circumvent the restriction in order to access the platform, there are no clear indications that those who are not restricted can freely use VPN.  In this case, in order to avoid future problems, it is best to contact support to ask if VPN usage is allowd to player who resides to non-restricted countries.

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September 07, 2023, 10:50:12 PM
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AFAIK, some casinos strictly prohibit the usage of VPNs on their websites. However, in most cases, it is only prohibited when attempting to mask the real location for illegal purposes.

The risk is that you will most likely be asked for KYC verification in order for the casino to confirm your identity and the source of your funds. But if you pass it, I see no issue with using a VPN during your gambling sessions on any of the sites you mentioned.

Obviously, everyone is prohibited from using VPN to conceal your real location, but I don't see any point using VPN other than for that specific reason. Well, I know VPN could protect you from some sort of digital attack, but If you don't have anything really important from your device or if it has not store massive amount of data or any financial information, I don't see any point using it, you are just taking the risk of you getting your casino account being investigated for using VPN as most casinos does not advise it.

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September 07, 2023, 11:15:33 PM
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I don't use VPNs for stuff like that. It's just counterintuitive especially when it comes to dealing with centralized crypto casinos like stake, they'd literally ask you for identification including a proof of residency, there's no point in "using a VPN to throw them off" when your static IP stays the same all throughout. I'm not saying you should stop using VPNs altogether, as they work really well if you're looking for content that is region blocked like movies on netflix and whatnot, but beyond that? I don't see any good reason really.

For one it just slows your internet connection down since now it has to be rerouted into a proxy server before you could do your normal google searching, on the other hand it's a massive hassle to work with even if it just takes "one click".
For people tht have high urge for gambling, it might be very difficult for them to comply to some certain rules even though there region is restricted from using a particular gambling site. If they are enjoying some benefits from the site especially there favorite games and good winnings, they would have to look for other means like using VPN to make sure that they keep enjoying the benefits they had been having since. It is very hard for some people to leave an be old gambling platform they had been using for a long time for another one. Some persons don't easily adapt.
But if you're using VPNs to gain special advantages like let's say region-blocked games and content, aren't that grounds for getting banned since you're gaming the system to provide you with content that is otherwise not supposed to be available to you? I get it, sometimes it's just better to have moore stuff around and all that but using VPNs to evade blockings will just do you more harm than good. Since now, and especially if the gambling site you're playing with is not supportive of this you gotta make sure that they don't catch you using VPNs otherwise you would get banned.

And if you're going to say that using VPNs are for people whose countries they live in have banned gambling, I'm just gonna ask you this: Is gambling worth risking prison time?

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September 08, 2023, 05:55:20 PM
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It's hard to risk on something that will affect our funds in the future. It's better to fully comply with the casino TOS than to violate their rules just to pursue what we want. If we're living in an area where such casino is prohibited or if they don't support our country, better choose casinos that do rather than risk our funds through using VPNs which could also be the reason for us to lose everything in the future.
We should be skeptical, especially with anything that involves our funds rather than risking and trying to escape the TOS of each casino.
What about playing a gambling, trading, investing, and the likes? There are risks on them but we still like doing them. We need to take risks if we want to earn or multiply our existing money. Risk can come in different levels. We can still take the lower level, or refrain from doing the supposed to be illegal thing. In regards to our topic here, I believe there must be a casino and their games which are fully allowed in our country.

We can play on them instead and we can expect to earn something if we get lucky or skillful enough. There are legal reasons on why a casino and their games are restricted on our country. It was primarily ordered by the government. It's not that the casino hates our country or what, so we should understand it.
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It's hard to risk on something that will affect our funds in the future. It's better to fully comply with the casino TOS than to violate their rules just to pursue what we want. If we're living in an area where such casino is prohibited or if they don't support our country, better choose casinos that do rather than risk our funds through using VPNs which could also be the reason for us to lose everything in the future.
We should be skeptical, especially with anything that involves our funds rather than risking and trying to escape the TOS of each casino.
What about playing a gambling, trading, investing, and the likes? There are risks on them but we still like doing them. We need to take risks if we want to earn or multiply our existing money. Risk can come in different levels. We can still take the lower level, or refrain from doing the supposed to be illegal thing. In regards to our topic here, I believe there must be a casino and their games which are fully allowed in our country.

We can play on them instead and we can expect to earn something if we get lucky or skillful enough. There are legal reasons on why a casino and their games are restricted on our country. It was primarily ordered by the government. It's not that the casino hates our country or what, so we should understand it.
I am not saying anything about having to enter a casino with a VPN because it is a way to enjoy a casino, but there is also something to keep in mind, if the Tos says that the use is not accepted VPN then nothing to do, the player has everything to lose, so if that's the case, don't start inventing. In any case, there will come a time when casinos will begin to accept people who use the VPN, so in this order of ideas we could wait a little longer to be able to enjoy a casino as it is, and without restrictions, I know that bitcasino.io does not have more problems with the use of the VPN, in fact it has a very interesting article about the VPN and the use of it, so when it comes to casinos and everything about VPN I don't know how much the fuss is about not wanting to do things Well regarding that, I can see that due to some government restrictions they cannot be carried out, but little by little these things will diminish because it is known that these casinos live because people need them.

Currently things with casinos are because they are very demanding due to KYC and that for some players is quite tedious and can become ugly when they are in a hurry to get the money, so seven types of things are what a casino should do quickly or accelerate them , so that you can do things better, however when we think that everything is fine, the restriction that we now know as the VPN is something that no longer makes much sense, I say something, if there is already a KYC passed and fully confirmed, Well, there is simply no problem if the person is in another country and uses the VPN, I don't think there is any problem there, but it is a matter of the casinos now seeing that it is necessary to accept this iop of users, the time will come where it is accepted and Now casinos have to find a way to provide some anonymity to players, either by using privacy coins, which is the most sensible thing to do, but this is in the future.

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September 10, 2023, 10:06:49 PM
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AFAIK, some casinos strictly prohibit the usage of VPNs on their websites. However, in most cases, it is only prohibited when attempting to mask the real location for illegal purposes.

The risk is that you will most likely be asked for KYC verification in order for the casino to confirm your identity and the source of your funds. But if you pass it, I see no issue with using a VPN during your gambling sessions on any of the sites you mentioned.

Obviously, everyone is prohibited from using VPN to conceal your real location, but I don't see any point using VPN other than for that specific reason. Well, I know VPN could protect you from some sort of digital attack, but If you don't have anything really important from your device or if it has not store massive amount of data or any financial information, I don't see any point using it, you are just taking the risk of you getting your casino account being investigated for using VPN as most casinos does not advise it.

Yeah, you are just giving casino an authorization to investigate your account and eventually use it against you especially if you have good balance amount or if you are getting lucky making some decent consecutive winning streak, it's better to avoid using VPN if you are not doing anything or you are not storing important information which most of the time the purpose for having such kind of tunnel.

But on the side of gambling activities, it can harm your account as most of casino sites are not allowing the use of VPN.

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I am not saying anything about having to enter a casino with a VPN because it is a way to enjoy a casino, but there is also something to keep in mind, if the Tos says that the use is not accepted VPN then nothing to do, the player has everything to lose, so if that's the case, don't start inventing. In any case, there will come a time when casinos will begin to accept people who use the VPN, so in this order of ideas we could wait a little longer to be able to enjoy a casino as it is, and without restrictions, I know that bitcasino.io does not have more problems with the use of the VPN, in fact it has a very interesting article about the VPN and the use of it, so when it comes to casinos and everything about VPN I don't know how much the fuss is about not wanting to do things Well regarding that, I can see that due to some government restrictions they cannot be carried out, but little by little these things will diminish because it is known that these casinos live because people need them.



The most of the gambler won’t like to use the website with the VPN,being a crypto gambler it’s very hard to rotate all the money in the gambling.If the gamblers used the VPN,all the money you had won will be lost.It also the loss for the money you had used for playing the gambling gameIf you play with the VPN,the game can be banned at any time.Even some gambling sites allow their not covered area like Islamic state to use of the VPN.In such place the playing game itself hard,So VPN was allowed their.When the player play with VPN,he need to play the entire game with the fear of ban.

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September 12, 2023, 05:44:54 AM
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I am not saying anything about having to enter a casino with a VPN because it is a way to enjoy a casino, but there is also something to keep in mind, if the Tos says that the use is not accepted VPN then nothing to do, the player has everything to lose, so if that's the case, don't start inventing. In any case, there will come a time when casinos will begin to accept people who use the VPN, so in this order of ideas we could wait a little longer to be able to enjoy a casino as it is, and without restrictions, I know that bitcasino.io does not have more problems with the use of the VPN, in fact it has a very interesting article about the VPN and the use of it, so when it comes to casinos and everything about VPN I don't know how much the fuss is about not wanting to do things Well regarding that, I can see that due to some government restrictions they cannot be carried out, but little by little these things will diminish because it is known that these casinos live because people need them.



The most of the gambler won’t like to use the website with the VPN,being a crypto gambler it’s very hard to rotate all the money in the gambling.If the gamblers used the VPN,all the money you had won will be lost.It also the loss for the money you had used for playing the gambling gameIf you play with the VPN,the game can be banned at any time.Even some gambling sites allow their not covered area like Islamic state to use of the VPN.In such place the playing game itself hard,So VPN was allowed their.When the player play with VPN,he need to play the entire game with the fear of ban.

Yes, now things have changed a lot, usually in 2017 when you entered a casino you could do it with any protocol, because there were not so many things that whether you used VPN or not, what mattered at that time was that people entered the casino people and people , who had Traffic, it did not matter to them where it was from or if it was from whatever place, what was interesting for that moment was that they came in to play and that they Interacted , that they left money, that they deposited, and when they won cheaply. or he lost no matter what , if he had to withdraw, then he would withdraw without commitments to KYC or to comply with whether he had a VPN or not , I think that is what all this should be about, now the player who does it from anywhere in the world with a VPN is not cheating , it is Skipping all the parts that do not let him be him or let him have fun , I think that very Few casinos have Managed to Understand that and the truth is I don't know why they don't try to do Something so simple, as I said , there is Some casinos don't care if they make or use VPN , if they can, why not others?

If things work well for others, why not for some casinos that can allow this use of VPN? The only way I see that they cannot use it is if they have it established in the Tos, things that I see as unnecessary, because I know that in the future things are Going to change, and VPNs will no longer be the things that prevent playing, nor will KYC because they will be minimal, just knowing the identification of the person and the location I consider that is sufficient, so now the question is whether it can be allowed, but because the people will Seek to be more anonymous, the part they will have is that the casinos they offer The most proven and Anonymous are the ones who will be most sought after, this is only what I think will happen, however I don't know if what I See or think will be the case in the future, but the KYC thing, the VPN thing will be something What they will forget , what they will look for will be something else , I also don't think that decentralized casinos will be able to Compete with Centralized Casinos.

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AFAIK, some casinos strictly prohibit the usage of VPNs on their websites. However, in most cases, it is only prohibited when attempting to mask the real location for illegal purposes.

The risk is that you will most likely be asked for KYC verification in order for the casino to confirm your identity and the source of your funds. But if you pass it, I see no issue with using a VPN during your gambling sessions on any of the sites you mentioned.

Obviously, everyone is prohibited from using VPN to conceal your real location, but I don't see any point using VPN other than for that specific reason. Well, I know VPN could protect you from some sort of digital attack, but If you don't have anything really important from your device or if it has not store massive amount of data or any financial information, I don't see any point using it, you are just taking the risk of you getting your casino account being investigated for using VPN as most casinos does not advise it.
If they can find a casino that allows VPN use, of course, they can freely use VPN. But usually, casinos prohibit it and it is written in the rules so that users who hide their real location cannot use VPN unless they ask permission from the casino first.

If they want to protect their data from digital attacks, they can use other devices because it will not impact their data. Those who stick with VPNs are taking a risk with their gambling accounts because the casino can find out easily and may take necessary action.

I wonder why they still intend to gamble in casinos that prohibit the use of VPNs. Why don't they look for a casino that won't give them a hard time if they use a VPN? Maybe they need to think about this because it will relate to their gambling account later. And the casino will ask them to do KYC if they find out about using the VPN.

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September 12, 2023, 10:08:11 AM
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I wonder why they still intend to gamble in casinos that prohibit the use of VPNs. Why don't they look for a casino that won't give them a hard time if they use a VPN? Maybe they need to think about this because it will relate to their gambling account later. And the casino will ask them to do KYC if they find out about using the VPN.
Yes, even though there are many big sites that allow the use of VPN, other than that it is used for the right things and problems, for example the site is blocked by the government and prohibits access to gambling sites so you need a VPN to access it, I don't think that will be a problem as long as the use is correct. although I'm not a VPN user I think in support of it all it seems that VPN use should not be an issue in any casino.

If casinos really want to get more visitors and users, they have to open the gate, because not all countries can access gambling sites easily, sometimes there are governments that block gambling sites, so the use of VPN should be excluded so that they can get active gamblers throughout world. but if there is a casino that makes it difficult it should be abandoned.

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September 13, 2023, 08:59:26 AM
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Yes, even though there are many big sites that allow the use of VPN, other than that it is used for the right things and problems, for example the site is blocked by the government and prohibits access to gambling sites so you need a VPN to access it, I don't think that will be a problem as long as the use is correct. although I'm not a VPN user I think in support of it all it seems that VPN use should not be an issue in any casino.

If casinos really want to get more visitors and users, they have to open the gate, because not all countries can access gambling sites easily, sometimes there are governments that block gambling sites, so the use of VPN should be excluded so that they can get active gamblers throughout world. but if there is a casino that makes it difficult it should be abandoned.
However, users should ensure that the casino allows users to use VPN because otherwise, it will only cause problems. For this reason, users can ask the support service about VPN usage problems or even send an email to the casino to find out the VPN usage status. If they allow it, it means users can freely use a VPN but should use a paid VPN to reduce IP usage from many people simultaneously.

The casino allows those from countries on its blacklist to visit its casino and gamble. But for those from countries on the blacklist, the casino strictly prohibits them from visiting the casino. There may be a special policy from the casino so that the casino completely prohibits them from visiting its casino and is not allowed to gamble in its casino. Maybe there are separate regulations from the regulator so that casinos must comply with them, but that will not reduce the number of visitors from other countries.

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September 13, 2023, 10:30:11 AM
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There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.

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September 13, 2023, 05:42:59 PM
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I wonder why they still intend to gamble in casinos that prohibit the use of VPNs. Why don't they look for a casino that won't give them a hard time if they use a VPN? Maybe they need to think about this because it will relate to their gambling account later. And the casino will ask them to do KYC if they find out about using the VPN.
Yes, even though there are many big sites that allow the use of VPN, other than that it is used for the right things and problems, for example the site is blocked by the government and prohibits access to gambling sites so you need a VPN to access it, I don't think that will be a problem as long as the use is correct. although I'm not a VPN user I think in support of it all it seems that VPN use should not be an issue in any casino.

If casinos really want to get more visitors and users, they have to open the gate, because not all countries can access gambling sites easily, sometimes there are governments that block gambling sites, so the use of VPN should be excluded so that they can get active gamblers throughout world. but if there is a casino that makes it difficult it should be abandoned.

I commented about something similar in my last post in another thread, people seem to not understand the gravity or seriousness of some things, when you read the casinos' TOS you realize that it is a TOS that was made to respect government regulations, mainly for the country that issued the license when this government that issued the license wants to check the casino and read the casino's TOS to see that the casino is following the laws. so the casinos in their TOS don't say anything about VPN permission, they say that people must give true data when the customer creates an account at the casino, and they go further in this part

in which they say that customers must provide true data at the casino, they specify that all customers must enter the casino with their real IP, so this clearly means that people should not use vpn in casinos, in another point in the casinos' TOS they put the list of banned countries, they are governments that have banned casinos or have been sanctioned, casinos just have to comply with the law in not allowing people from those countries to use the casino, as sad as that is

Now when a casino representative tells people: "you can use VPN even if you are from a restricted and prohibited country". These words are beautiful and can provide some comfort, but people need to remember that what matters most will always be the casino's TOS, as long as the casino's TOS is there banning the use of VPN, banning people from restricted countries so People should not be deceived and deceived, they should be realistic and not put a lot of money in the casino, because at any time the casino can invoke the TOS and freeze the funds of all people who are using VPN

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September 13, 2023, 05:52:36 PM
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I know vpn is not required to account on gambling sites because there are many gambling sites which are complicated to be blocked by other country's government. It is indeed true that gambling is prohibited in some number of countries and even from those countries you can gamble secretly through your device. Gambling is banned in my country but actually I am an addicted gambler so online gambling is my addiction which helps me to play in privacy. Moreover, many casino sites do not accept vpn, so if you use vpn there, your account may be closed. There is no compulsion to gamble so it is your personal freedom.

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September 13, 2023, 05:55:34 PM
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Yes, even though there are many big sites that allow the use of VPN, other than that it is used for the right things and problems, for example the site is blocked by the government and prohibits access to gambling sites so you need a VPN to access it, I don't think that will be a problem as long as the use is correct. although I'm not a VPN user I think in support of it all it seems that VPN use should not be an issue in any casino.

If casinos really want to get more visitors and users, they have to open the gate, because not all countries can access gambling sites easily, sometimes there are governments that block gambling sites, so the use of VPN should be excluded so that they can get active gamblers throughout world. but if there is a casino that makes it difficult it should be abandoned.
However, users should ensure that the casino allows users to use VPN because otherwise, it will only cause problems. For this reason, users can ask the support service about VPN usage problems or even send an email to the casino to find out the VPN usage status. If they allow it, it means users can freely use a VPN but should use a paid VPN to reduce IP usage from many people simultaneously.

The casino allows those from countries on its blacklist to visit its casino and gamble. But for those from countries on the blacklist, the casino strictly prohibits them from visiting the casino. There may be a special policy from the casino so that the casino completely prohibits them from visiting its casino and is not allowed to gamble in its casino. Maybe there are separate regulations from the regulator so that casinos must comply with them, but that will not reduce the number of visitors from other countries.
If there are no mentions or these words been stated on a certain platform then it would really be just that telling that its been allowed or simply its not prohibited and if you are a fan of making use of VPN on hiding your real ip or location then its your choice but honestly its better not to bother or hassle yourself on making use of VPN if you are really that allowed to play on a certain platform.

Somewhat i havent been able to encounter some issues or problems about sudden problems about VPN matters just because i have used VPN and been sued out or facing some problems because of it.
It would really be that a shady part of them or on a platform on having those kind of lock ups because of VPN use even its not really that been stated on their TOS on which a certain user would really be
able to contest out and make some argumentation on that part.

This is why if you are that type of being paranoid or advanced thinking about possible issues might happen then it would be better not to make use at all.
It would really be that risky if you do decide on making use of it even though its allowed or not really that being mentioned in the first place.

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September 13, 2023, 06:10:07 PM
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There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens,, in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.
The first thing any gambler should do is to read the terms of service of any casino before registering. If the policy allows gamers to use VPN, that's okay. There is no need to use a VPN when it is prohibited in a casino. Most gamblers are sometimes enticed by attractive bonuses or other benefits so they want to bypass their restrictions with VPN. This act doesn't only violate the TOS, but it is also risky.

You can lose your funds if the casino discovers that you are using VPN and you will have no right to seek refunds or a lifting of ban or restriction placed on your account. Another issue is when you have any problem with your account, you might be asked to present some KYC document which will now indicate that you have violated the terms of service. If you do a good search,  you will discover many casinos that suit your style and income. So there is no need to invade restrictions placed on some countries by casinos.

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September 13, 2023, 06:27:25 PM
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Gambling is banned in my country but actually I am an addicted gambler so online gambling is my addiction which helps me to play in privacy. Moreover, many casino sites do not accept vpn, so if you use vpn there, your account may be closed. There is no compulsion to gamble so it is your personal freedom.
Is it a good thing for you that they don't accept VPN? I think if you're really addicted and VPN isn't really helping you to play, that's likely a blessing in disguise for you to mitigate that addiction of yours. Well, yes that's true there's no compulsion in it but if you're addicted it's yourself that's being compulsive in the first place and that's not a good thing.
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September 13, 2023, 08:28:59 PM
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Gambling is banned in my country but actually I am an addicted gambler so online gambling is my addiction which helps me to play in privacy. Moreover, many casino sites do not accept vpn, so if you use vpn there, your account may be closed. There is no compulsion to gamble so it is your personal freedom.
Is it a good thing for you that they don't accept VPN? I think if you're really addicted and VPN isn't really helping you to play, that's likely a blessing in disguise for you to mitigate that addiction of yours. Well, yes that's true there's no compulsion in it but if you're addicted it's yourself that's being compulsive in the first place and that's not a good thing.
It depends on how he see it. It's a blessing in disguise if gambling affects you negatively heavily and somehow planning to quit gambling but for people who just became an addicted to gambling, it's a hassle for them to find casino that they know they can play without worrying the possible problem of using VPN and the country ban.

Just like you I think it's a good thing that VPN is not allowed to some well known casino to reduce or to eliminate the possible effects of gambling addiction but it all boils down to the addicted gambler. An addicted person will find a way to continue their vices even if it mean to gamble on a physical casino that operates illegally.
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September 13, 2023, 10:27:48 PM
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Gambling is banned in my country but actually I am an addicted gambler so online gambling is my addiction which helps me to play in privacy. Moreover, many casino sites do not accept vpn, so if you use vpn there, your account may be closed. There is no compulsion to gamble so it is your personal freedom.
VPN are not acceptable by gambling sites, it's always introduced in their terms and conditions because these VPNs have their various negative effects towards online gambling accounts. Wagering online will fasten the entire process because online gambling happens to be one of the very best techniques that a gambler can easily earned from the comfort of one's home without any intervention of the third party. Gambling ban in most countries, is a beneficial option for the citizens because the government have just save them from the hands of gambling. Still yet, alot of people argued and are interested in gambling by all means.

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September 14, 2023, 07:40:59 AM
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Just like you I think it's a good thing that VPN is not allowed to some well known casino to reduce or to eliminate the possible effects of gambling addiction but it all boils down to the addicted gambler. An addicted person will find a way to continue their vices even if it mean to gamble on a physical casino that operates illegally.
Furthermore, I think an addicted individuals will try to find some alternatives even bypassing VPN restrictions and it's not that difficult these days with booming technologies.

VPN are not acceptable by gambling sites, it's always introduced in their terms and conditions because these VPNs have their various negative effects towards online gambling accounts. Wagering online will fasten the entire process because online gambling happens to be one of the very best techniques that a gambler can easily earned from the comfort of one's home without any intervention of the third party. Gambling ban in most countries, is a beneficial option for the citizens because the government have just save them from the hands of gambling. Still yet, alot of people argued and are interested in gambling by all means.
They're prohibited but if the casino itself doesn't finds it out that some individuals are using it, they'll continue on it of course. There are cases that even if gambling ban is ruling in the country there are even more illegal gambling activities that happens because of it, it may be beneficial to citizens but the government will find it hard to cope with in real life scenarios.
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September 14, 2023, 08:59:23 AM
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If there are no mentions or these words been stated on a certain platform then it would really be just that telling that its been allowed or simply its not prohibited and if you are a fan of making use of VPN on hiding your real ip or location then its your choice but honestly its better not to bother or hassle yourself on making use of VPN if you are really that allowed to play on a certain platform.

Somewhat i havent been able to encounter some issues or problems about sudden problems about VPN matters just because i have used VPN and been sued out or facing some problems because of it.
It would really be that a shady part of them or on a platform on having those kind of lock ups because of VPN use even its not really that been stated on their TOS on which a certain user would really be
able to contest out and make some argumentation on that part.

This is why if you are that type of being paranoid or advanced thinking about possible issues might happen then it would be better not to make use at all.
It would really be that risky if you do decide on making use of it even though its allowed or not really that being mentioned in the first place.
Yes, that's why we have to make sure whether using a VPN is allowed or prohibited so that we don't get into trouble. And usually, the casinos have said it clearly in their rules. But if the regulations don't say anything about VPN, we have to contact support to find out the status of using a VPN.

But we already know that there are casinos that allow the use of VPN and others that don't. And it's our job to find out about the permissions by contacting the support service. And if the casino really doesn't allow the use of VPN, it's better if we don't use it or we can look for a casino that allows the use of VPN by its users so that we can freely use the VPN. If the casino prohibits the use of VPN but we still use it, maybe later we will have problems that confuse us about how to solve them.

Yes, it's better to find out about the casino first before we use VPN because this has something to do with other things. That is why when using this VPN, we must be wise and follow the rules written in the casino and comply with them.

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September 14, 2023, 09:12:01 AM
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There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.

Everyone who uses VPN when gambling should realize that it can play a cruel joke if he wins a large sum of money. I try not to use VPN during gambling sessions, but since in my country it is impossible to use free Internet without using means to bypass blocking, I almost always work with VPN. Sometimes it happens that I have already entered the casino and made the first bet and only then noticed that I use VPN. 

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September 14, 2023, 03:41:15 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.

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September 14, 2023, 04:07:21 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
Once you know the  rules and Regulations of the gambling site then why you should not avoid to make those mistakes in short once a gambling avoid users to Use VPN then why you should try that one. Then if you caught in it then you should  100% face your consequences cause we are all know that casino will definitely do an action about that maybe they will bann your account or else ask for KYC.

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September 14, 2023, 06:24:46 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
Perhaps they think that they can get away with VPN and then continue to play. But once the casino has found what you are doing then, obviously, they will have to check everything once you withdraw some of your winnings.

So I don't believed that there are VPN friendly casinos though, I mean yeah, they might be saying that they are allowing it. But maybe if you used it where you resides to a country that they are ban, then you might have a problem later.

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September 14, 2023, 06:34:35 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

It's very dangerous to use VPN's when using any sort of gambling site, because most of the time they will have clauses in their terms of service which prohibit you from using methods which hide your location. VPN's may be considered common in usage to the general public now, but their intended purpose is to funnel traffic through a different location before reaching you. All of the calculations that casinos and bookmakers put into their sites, primarily all of the offers that they use to entice new users and keep regulars playing, rely on every single account being genuine. Using a "fake" internet dress, or hiding behind a VPN, can often be abused by malicious users when they want to target a certain site which is why they discourage their use.

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September 14, 2023, 06:51:50 PM
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There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.
Everyone who uses VPN when gambling should realize that it can play a cruel joke if he wins a large sum of money. I try not to use VPN during gambling sessions, but since in my country it is impossible to use free Internet without using means to bypass blocking, I almost always work with VPN. Sometimes it happens that I have already entered the casino and made the first bet and only then noticed that I use VPN. 
I believe that this is going to be something that would be changing the world in a different method. I know that it is not going to be able to get to a point where it will be simple, but we can do this and it should be the most important part.

I know that life is not that simple like "let's not use VPN and we will be fine", because some people have to, but at the very least, if you do not "have to" use it, then you should not use it. That would be the most important part of it. I realize that life is expensive and we could end up with some issues, but no matter what happens we are going to end up with a lot of trouble. I know that VPN could cause issues so if you can avoid it, try to avoid it whenever you can.
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September 14, 2023, 07:15:21 PM
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There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.
Everyone who uses VPN when gambling should realize that it can play a cruel joke if he wins a large sum of money. I try not to use VPN during gambling sessions, but since in my country it is impossible to use free Internet without using means to bypass blocking, I almost always work with VPN. Sometimes it happens that I have already entered the casino and made the first bet and only then noticed that I use VPN. 
It's better if someone reads the terms and conditions of a casino before joining it only to know what they allow and what they don't, and if a platform is VPN-friendly, they will have it mentioned in their terms and conditions, or one can simply ask their support team about it before they actually create an account, make a deposit, win something big, and then come to know that they can't withdraw the money because they have been using a VPN all this time.

Using a VPN can sometimes be troublesome, especially if you are gambling from a country that is restricted by the platform since the country doesn't allow online gambling or gambling itself, which means that you are bypassing that rule and going against the law and the casino will simply block your account once they find out about that.

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September 14, 2023, 07:37:47 PM
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There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.
Everyone who uses VPN when gambling should realize that it can play a cruel joke if he wins a large sum of money. I try not to use VPN during gambling sessions, but since in my country it is impossible to use free Internet without using means to bypass blocking, I almost always work with VPN. Sometimes it happens that I have already entered the casino and made the first bet and only then noticed that I use VPN. 
It's better if someone reads the terms and conditions of a casino before joining it only to know what they allow and what they don't, and if a platform is VPN-friendly, they will have it mentioned in their terms and conditions, or one can simply ask their support team about it before they actually create an account, make a deposit, win something big, and then come to know that they can't withdraw the money because they have been using a VPN all this time.

Using a VPN can sometimes be troublesome, especially if you are gambling from a country that is restricted by the platform since the country doesn't allow online gambling or gambling itself, which means that you are bypassing that rule and going against the law and the casino will simply block your account once they find out about that.
Reading up sites terms and conditions is always been not a common thing or casual that most gamblers would be doing and this is why if ever they would really be facing up problems due to violation of TOS then there's nothing that they could do but to deal with those consequences and this is why it is really that always relevant on reading up the TOS whenever you are dealing with something new specially on sites that you havent been used before so that on the time that you might be facing up some issues then you could really be able to counter as long it wasnt been stated and you have been accused on violating something. Using up VPN is not really that recommended for some platforms or most of them because these places are centralized and licensed on which there would really be a specific country or places which arent really that allowed to play on the platform and on the time that you are really that forcing yourself on playing and making use of whats prohibited then dont make yourself pointing out the blame once you have that locked up your funds into your casino balance.

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October 03, 2023, 07:49:15 AM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
Perhaps they think that they can get away with VPN and then continue to play. But once the casino has found what you are doing then, obviously, they will have to check everything once you withdraw some of your winnings.

So I don't believed that there are VPN friendly casinos though, I mean yeah, they might be saying that they are allowing it. But maybe if you used it where you resides to a country that they are ban, then you might have a problem later.

It can use against you especially if you are winning decent amount and you are trying to cash it out, once the site detects that you are from a specific place where gambling is prohibited, using VPN will not save your butt it will give the house that right to freeze your money and it will going to depend from how they work on it, either give you consideration or they will not allow you get your money out from your wallet.

Always consider the risk when using it and if possible not to deal or use the service, then it's much better since you will not be worrying if what will happen after you finished your game and decided to cash out your money.


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October 03, 2023, 08:31:21 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I will discuss what happened in my country recently regarding gambling policy where the government is cleaning up online gambling sites every day, almost blocking a large number of sites. It turns out that even the international casinos I visited were difficult to access unless using a VPN. Before there was a cleanup policy I was still safe and free to access without using a VPN. Although there are several other options besides VPN, they are currently no longer effective.

Regarding VPN use, I didn't get any warning from the casino, maybe they are also aware of the increasingly strict policies in each country. Plus, I don't really mind the casino's new policy regarding no-holds-barred. But now when it comes to government policy, to be honest, I can't carry out my activities as freely as usual.

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October 03, 2023, 04:03:03 PM
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It's very wrong and not safe to use VPN For gambling, especially for online sites and casinos where they are clearly stated in their terms that it shouldn't be done, actually with VPN you may be able to access the various sites as it may work but then it still doesn't make it good and reliable as the consequences of violating the terms of the site will definitely come soonest.

When you probably get a big win you are most likely at risk of facing some challenges with withdrawal as options for withdrawal in your region may not be available on the site because the site is not permitted or is labeled illegal in your jurisdiction. It's better to work with the ones available in your jurisdiction so you don't cut your fun short by not been able to make withdrawals after winnings.

It's most safe to stay and abide by the rules of the site or Casio so as to avoid possible future issues as it has to do with KYC and withdrawal which will later amount to wasted efforts and resources, and you definitely can't take any action against these casino or gambling sites as it's a bridge of their terms which even if not clearly stated it will be said they were not allowed in your jurisdiction but you by passed using VPN. Stay safe by using that which applies to your jurisdiction.

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October 07, 2023, 09:08:55 PM
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It's very wrong and not safe to use VPN For gambling, especially for online sites and casinos where they are clearly stated in their terms that it shouldn't be done, actually with VPN you may be able to access the various sites as it may work but then it still doesn't make it good and reliable as the consequences of violating the terms of the site will definitely come soonest.

When you probably get a big win you are most likely at risk of facing some challenges with withdrawal as options for withdrawal in your region may not be available on the site because the site is not permitted or is labeled illegal in your jurisdiction. It's better to work with the ones available in your jurisdiction so you don't cut your fun short by not been able to make withdrawals after winnings.

It's most safe to stay and abide by the rules of the site or Casio so as to avoid possible future issues as it has to do with KYC and withdrawal which will later amount to wasted efforts and resources, and you definitely can't take any action against these casino or gambling sites as it's a bridge of their terms which even if not clearly stated it will be said they were not allowed in your jurisdiction but you by passed using VPN. Stay safe by using that which applies to your jurisdiction.

Many gambler are not understand the fact of using VPN will leads to loss at any point.Because the gambling site will check and find the VPN usage easily,So the gambling site will ban the account involved in the VPN usage.The money you had holding in the gambling site was taken by the gambling site.It may be look as the unfair one,but the person who use the VPN had getting the chance of the other winner.This account ban will be the punishment for the gambler uses VPN for additional win from the gambling site.

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October 07, 2023, 09:18:40 PM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.
Most casinos prohibits its users users to use vpn, but there are some who doesn't. If it's stated on casino's ToS then users should not try to use it while playing, simply as that.
These mentioned casinos are probably strict about VPN especially if you are in countries that has strict casino regulations like US, Quatar, Singapore,.etc.

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October 12, 2023, 09:37:13 PM
 #155

Actually it needs to know where and when you are allow to use vpn safely and where you aren't. There's no problem to use vpn if your government ban a gambling website and you want to bypass it by using vpn! That's okay and you can go for a stake after done your kyc. But the problem is, If you want to access a gambling website what bans your country, then vpn can't do anything! But you may access to that website but you can't done your kyc verification process, deposited money will lost in such cases. I have used vpn many time and access gambling website, done kyc, deposited and withdraw too even that website banned by my government

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October 12, 2023, 09:55:38 PM
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
Perhaps they think that they can get away with VPN and then continue to play. But once the casino has found what you are doing then, obviously, they will have to check everything once you withdraw some of your winnings.

So I don't believed that there are VPN friendly casinos though, I mean yeah, they might be saying that they are allowing it. But maybe if you used it where you resides to a country that they are ban, then you might have a problem later.

It can use against you especially if you are winning decent amount and you are trying to cash it out, once the site detects that you are from a specific place where gambling is prohibited, using VPN will not save your butt it will give the house that right to freeze your money and it will going to depend from how they work on it, either give you consideration or they will not allow you get your money out from your wallet.

Always consider the risk when using it and if possible not to deal or use the service, then it's much better since you will not be worrying if what will happen after you finished your game and decided to cash out your money.


Its better to have some advanced thinking rather than ending up on regretting in the end or on the time that you do win up some big amounts on which these platforms could really easily make out some excuses that
you had violated something and would really be making some changes on their sites terms and conditions on which there's nothing you can do but to accept that you had committed some violation but if you are that someone who are always reading up sites terms and conditions and found out that VPN is allowed or something not that a violation then you could really make out some contest but of course you should really be needing to provide some proofs or else then there's no point on trying to argue on such condition.

If you dont really like the hassle then i would really be just simply playing on the sites which are known and reputable comparing into those sites which arent really that popular or something
having  that kind of reputation. You cant really be able to tell on when they would become shit and scammy because we know that once we do talk about huge winnings then this is where issues do usually comes out.

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October 12, 2023, 09:59:02 PM
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Actually it needs to know where and when you are allow to use vpn safely and where you aren't. There's no problem to use vpn if your government ban a gambling website and you want to bypass it by using vpn! That's okay and you can go for a stake after done your kyc. But the problem is, If you want to access a gambling website what bans your country, then vpn can't do anything! But you may access to that website but you can't done your kyc verification process, deposited money will lost in such cases. I have used vpn many time and access gambling website, done kyc, deposited and withdraw too even that website banned by my government

The using of the vpn in the safe side is not possible one,if the gambler get captured by found of the vpn.The gambling site will ban their account without asking the explanation to the user.Even the gambler used to explain by using the mail to the gambling site,their is no use and not good reply from the gambling site.The account ban for the vpn usage is the punishment to avoid of future user of vpn in the gambling sites.But in the extreme condition of using vpn where the government had officially bad the gambling sites to their country also the gambling sites saying no to the usage.So how they accept the usage of the normal country.

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October 12, 2023, 10:31:17 PM
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Its better to have some advanced thinking rather than ending up on regretting in the end or on the time that you do win up some big amounts on which these platforms could really easily make out some excuses that
you had violated something and would really be making some changes on their sites terms and conditions on which there's nothing you can do but to accept that you had committed some violation but if you are that someone who are always reading up sites terms and conditions and found out that VPN is allowed or something not that a violation then you could really make out some contest but of course you should really be needing to provide some proofs or else then there's no point on trying to argue on such condition.

If you dont really like the hassle then i would really be just simply playing on the sites which are known and reputable comparing into those sites which arent really that popular or something
having  that kind of reputation. You cant really be able to tell on when they would become shit and scammy because we know that once we do talk about huge winnings then this is where issues do usually comes out.

You don't have any option once you suffer from any violation even you read the terms and conditions but if the site tag you as violating it then you will be needed to provide your evidences and wait for the site to justify their decision, either they will accept the mistake or they will pursue whatever they think that favorable to them, you don't have any control about the decision making unless you have the clear view and understanding about the terms and conditions that you think you did not violate any.

Like on your last statement, better to use reputable site and those that have active support, as you can check on them from time to time to avoid doings things that may impact to your winnings if ever you manage to be lucky.

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October 12, 2023, 10:38:31 PM
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The using of the vpn in the safe side is not possible one,if the gambler get captured by found of the vpn.The gambling site will ban their account without asking the explanation to the user.Even the gambler used to explain by using the mail to the gambling site,their is no use and not good reply from the gambling site.The account ban for the vpn usage is the punishment to avoid of future user of vpn in the gambling sites
This is only going to happen if the casino restricts the usage of VPNs to their accounts. But if the casino has no problem with that and you accidentally used it then you will not face any penalty and consequences upon usage of it. They may even encourage you to do that if you're asking them nicely and allow you to do it since you have started it already and they've been tracked your activities and that's why depending on the casino that you're having, they may or not allow you to do that so it's best to consult them first if you're ever planning to access them with the use of it.

But in the extreme condition of using vpn where the government had officially bad the gambling sites to their country also the gambling sites saying no to the usage.So how they accept the usage of the normal country.
Really varies to the situation and consideration of theirs. Some may have a meeting first and will ask you to wait for a couple of minutes for them to assess whether they'll allow you or not. If it's fine to them then they'll just put a note to your account through their database or record that you are into this situation and condition and you're given a go signal.

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October 12, 2023, 10:46:57 PM
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It's very wrong and not safe to use VPN For gambling, especially for online sites and casinos where they are clearly stated in their terms that it shouldn't be done, actually with VPN you may be able to access the various sites as it may work but then it still doesn't make it good and reliable as the consequences of violating the terms of the site will definitely come soonest.

When you probably get a big win you are most likely at risk of facing some challenges with withdrawal as options for withdrawal in your region may not be available on the site because the site is not permitted or is labeled illegal in your jurisdiction. It's better to work with the ones available in your jurisdiction so you don't cut your fun short by not been able to make withdrawals after winnings.

It's most safe to stay and abide by the rules of the site or Casio so as to avoid possible future issues as it has to do with KYC and withdrawal which will later amount to wasted efforts and resources, and you definitely can't take any action against these casino or gambling sites as it's a bridge of their terms which even if not clearly stated it will be said they were not allowed in your jurisdiction but you by passed using VPN. Stay safe by using that which applies to your jurisdiction.
The truth is that most gamblers would definitely do anything possible to make sure they're winning their gambles even when their engagements are believed to be illegal. The use of VPN by gamblers to make sure they gamble even when the government in their country of residence had banned gambling is absolutely illegal but because they want to make sure that they're gambling like other countries where it is very much eligible then they do introduce VPN to help them gamble. One thing about online gambling is that it's absolutely not possible for government agencies to control how people use the cyberspace to gamble. However, as law abiding citizens, it's not a good idea to always do things that are contrary to the people's demand.

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October 12, 2023, 11:45:18 PM
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Its better to have some advanced thinking rather than ending up on regretting in the end or on the time that you do win up some big amounts on which these platforms could really easily make out some excuses that
you had violated something and would really be making some changes on their sites terms and conditions on which there's nothing you can do but to accept that you had committed some violation but if you are that someone who are always reading up sites terms and conditions and found out that VPN is allowed or something not that a violation then you could really make out some contest but of course you should really be needing to provide some proofs or else then there's no point on trying to argue on such condition.

If you dont really like the hassle then i would really be just simply playing on the sites which are known and reputable comparing into those sites which arent really that popular or something
having  that kind of reputation. You cant really be able to tell on when they would become shit and scammy because we know that once we do talk about huge winnings then this is where issues do usually comes out.

You don't have any option once you suffer from any violation even you read the terms and conditions but if the site tag you as violating it then you will be needed to provide your evidences and wait for the site to justify their decision, either they will accept the mistake or they will pursue whatever they think that favorable to them, you don't have any control about the decision making unless you have the clear view and understanding about the terms and conditions that you think you did not violate any.

That is why when there is some information on the TOS that is vague or we hardly comprehend, we must ask the support staff to explain to us about that terms.  There is no harm in verifying things, instead it will even make our account safe from being suspended or banned.

Like on your last statement, better to use reputable site and those that have active support, as you can check on them from time to time to avoid doings things that may impact to your winnings if ever you manage to be lucky.

Regardless of the reputation of the site, we, as a gambler, have the responsibility to know everything about the casino's terms of service.  The casino won't message us first to explain their side, we have to message them about things we don't understand and ask things that is in greay area like using VPN when we are not in the restricted regions.

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October 13, 2023, 12:05:04 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Asking a casino's customer service if they accept VPN users is okay in my opinion because they may claim that the casino they want to gamble at isn't available in their country. Before asking other players in the community like this in the crypto space, read the TOS that the gaming platform provides.

A VPN should only be used if gambling is prohibited in the nation where the user is situated. And some others use VPNs solely to abuse specific casinos by using a fake account. If you are upfront about your intentions before investing money in the casino, you have nothing to lose, right? rather than ultimately running into an issue.

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October 13, 2023, 12:25:50 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
Sure you can play in those casinos with a VPN, but once they ask you to perform KYC, you won't be able to pass the verification and you will end up with your balance frozen in that account. And if you read the terms, you will see that they prohibit users from using KYC. Even if they don't say it explicitly, they do mention that if you find ways to go around restrictions, they have the right to freeze and confiscate your funds. And then look at the scam accusation section on this forum. You will see lots of users not being able to withdraw funds just because they couldn't complete their KYC. They all had the same question "Why were we allowed to deposit (with VPN), but not withdraw"?.

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October 13, 2023, 01:02:20 AM
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
Sure you can play in those casinos with a VPN, but once they ask you to perform KYC, you won't be able to pass the verification and you will end up with your balance frozen in that account. And if you read the terms, you will see that they prohibit users from using KYC. Even if they don't say it explicitly, they do mention that if you find ways to go around restrictions, they have the right to freeze and confiscate your funds. And then look at the scam accusation section on this forum. You will see lots of users not being able to withdraw funds just because they couldn't complete their KYC. They all had the same question "Why were we allowed to deposit (with VPN), but not withdraw"?.
Isnt it frustrating? Casinos need to be relaxing destinations to visit, not scams! While playing with a VPN may seem like a wise choice, there are drawbacks as well. And when they want KYC, voila! You're stranded. Those terms, too? They are cunning. Although they may not explicitly mention the VPN, they certainly have strategies to trick you. It is similar to this: "Hey, come put some money in. Oh, you want to take it out? Sorry, but not now." And those charges of scamming? They are in every place! Anywhere! Individuals who wish to enjoy themselves, just like you, are left asking, "Why could I deposit but not withdraw?" It aggravates me! I am, however, available to you. Never forget to read the fine print, and follow your instincts if anything doesnt seem right. Lets preserve the joy in gambling and stay safe.

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October 13, 2023, 01:09:15 AM
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It depends on the website itself if they have a rule prohibiting the usage of VPN. VPN somehow is not illegal to use because they use this tool. For example, if a specific website is not accessible in a certain country, you can use a VPN to change your IP, but of course using a legitimate VPN is much safer than purchasing a subscription to a trusted VPN application. To sum up, it's much better to first assess the casino website to see if they allow you to use such a tool to be safe.

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October 13, 2023, 07:57:45 AM
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It depends on the website itself if they have a rule prohibiting the usage of VPN. VPN somehow is not illegal to use because they use this tool. For example, if a specific website is not accessible in a certain country, you can use a VPN to change your IP, but of course using a legitimate VPN is much safer than purchasing a subscription to a trusted VPN application. To sum up, it's much better to first assess the casino website to see if they allow you to use such a tool to be safe.
And before you use the VPN, you can ask the casino whether it is permitted to use VPN or whether the casino prohibits it. This is done to avoid problems that might arise after gambling for a while. Usually, the casino will carry out verification for its members, especially those who want to withdraw their money. So before you register at the casino, you have to make sure that a VPN is permitted so that you can use it freely. But if your country prohibits gambling and the casino also prohibits citizens from your country from gambling in the casino, you will still not be allowed to gamble at the casino.

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October 17, 2023, 10:41:12 PM
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It depends on the website itself if they have a rule prohibiting the usage of VPN. VPN somehow is not illegal to use because they use this tool. For example, if a specific website is not accessible in a certain country, you can use a VPN to change your IP, but of course using a legitimate VPN is much safer than purchasing a subscription to a trusted VPN application. To sum up, it's much better to first assess the casino website to see if they allow you to use such a tool to be safe.

What we are talking about in this section is simple. If something is forbidden, don't do it so as not to get into trouble in the end. If we abide by the rules and policies that a casino has, we won't face any problems in the end.

The others because even if it is not allowed, of course it is wrong, it is illegal, and it is also against the rules they implement on their platform. But what you said is also correct: you can ask for their support so that at least there is no wasted effort if they say that they prohibit it on their gambling platform. And there is nothing to lose if we ask this question because it is free to ask, and for sure they will give you a free answer as well.


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November 16, 2023, 08:28:42 PM
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The using of the vpn in the safe side is not possible one,if the gambler get captured by found of the vpn.The gambling site will ban their account without asking the explanation to the user.Even the gambler used to explain by using the mail to the gambling site,their is no use and not good reply from the gambling site.The account ban for the vpn usage is the punishment to avoid of future user of vpn in the gambling sites.But in the extreme condition of using vpn where the government had officially bad the gambling sites to their country also the gambling sites saying no to the usage.So how they accept the usage of the normal country
such cases are also possible to occurred due to use of vpn. But reputed gambling websites never do so. Actually vpn have some twist also. I can visit any gambling websites or anywhere else by using my country's ip even my country ban those websites! The fact is, vpn can provide me my countries ip with no restrictions. Thats why gambling websites somehow won't know I'm using vpn or not. And thus way i use vpn ,what already told in my old comment. Besides if i use other country name instead of mine, then kyc won't possible cause then i need to manage other's counties id for verification.

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