Still not a safe practice even if it works

[Wexnident]

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I mean, it'd probably be better to ask the ToS? Just look at stake for example,

14.4 The attempt to manipulate your real location through the use of VPN, proxy, or similar services or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence, with the intent to circumvent geo-blocking or jurisdiction restrictions, constitutes a breach of Clause 5 of this Terms of Service.

Clearly states it's a breach of clause 5, which is about the usage of their site on allowed locations/jurisdictions. Yes, you can circumvent this via VPN, and you can probably get away with it, but don't ask why you got "banned" when you, in the first place, didn't follow their ToS. VPN working does not mean it's allowed. VPN in the first place is used to bypass geo-blocking restrictions, and "bypass" isn't exactly a term I'd use if they were "VPN-friendly"

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[Fatunad]

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Just a little bit side note on here on which i did tend to make some research on those mentions but among those which is that CasinoGap. which i do believe is this https://casinogap.org/non-gamstop-casinos/
which we do know that it isnt really that a casino but rather a affiliate or review site which it doesnt really fit out itself on the team or listed or mentioned casinos.

On Stake.
14.4 The attempt to manipulate your real location through the use of VPN, proxy, or similar services or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence, with the intent to circumvent geo-blocking or jurisdiction restrictions, constitutes a breach of Clause 5 of this Terms of Service.
Source: https://stake.com/policies/terms

On Fortunejack.
Prohibited teritories
https://fortunejack.com/faq/prohibited-territories
Each provider does have their own set of countries which arent allowed. So there's no point on using up VPN and make yourself get caught.

[Wakate]

Talking to customer support for VPN inquiry is the right thing to do.  Just like what @DoublerHunter did when he inquire about the use of VPN to access the casino platform.  VPN working does not mean it is ok to use it, we have seen complaints here about their account getting suspended due to the use of VPN in circumventing their access to the platform.

If the customer support discourage us to us VPN or answered in somehow vague statement, I think we must always choose the safer option and that is to not use VPN unless the customer support confirm that it is really allowed to use it.

I think a casino will be very happy to suspend an account that has a big fund in it. Sometimes we are nit ready to abstain from a casino because of the restricted regions that are not allowed to use the casino but that can make us to go extra miles to use VPN in order to access the site which can work for us for some time. It is very important for us to always take a safety notice of not leaving funds in the casino account so that in case it got suspended, we are not going to bear any loses. If we keep funds there and the account got suspended, it is not going to be easy for us at all.

[summonerrk]

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What do you think?

I read the TOS and didn't see anything there about using VPN. Nevertheless, I am not against working with casinos via VPN. The fact is that this does not carry risks, because the VPN stream is also encrypted, and stealing your data from it is not as easy as it seems. I use several personal VPNs, because in my country there is very strict censorship in relation to casinos, even for access to Bitcointalk you need a VPN, not to mention Roobet, Stake and other gambling sites. It is annoying that VPN often stop working and they need to be changed. But for this I use WireGuard.

[Pierre 2]

I think if using vpn is not against the rules it can be used without hesitation. Yeah casino companies will definitely and strongly discourage you to do it. Its not because they hate people using vpn - they are  probably okay with it. BUT, there are many legal binding gambling companies need to face. So they are forced to discourage use of vpn. Its little bit grey are because of all these. But I think there won't be big issues if you use it.

[davis196]

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

Why would you use a VPN, if online gambling is allowed in your country?
If you have to use a VPN in order to access an online casino, this means that your Internet Service Provider(ISP) is restricting your access to online gambling platforms, in accordance to you country's legislation and regulations.
Using a VPN to access a gambling website means that you are breaking the laws of your country. The online casino might take your deposits and even allow you to withdraw your profits, but what if the VPN company reports your browsing history to your country's authorities?
I know that this is close to impossible to happen, but some VPN companies don't delete your browsing data.

[Mauser]

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

VPNs became such a big boom during the Covid lockdowns when everybody was at home and wanted to surf the internet freely. I can understand that people are concerned about their personal information and want to protect themselves. The issue with using VPNs for gambling is that your IP is likely to going to change every time you log into the casino. This could already flag your account for suspicious activities and might lead to problems later on. Personally, I stopped using VPNs when gambling because the risk is too high for me that there is an issue when I try to withdraw my winnings. The question is also if we use VPNs to secure our personal information, or to circumvent a gambling ban in our country. In case of gambling not being allowed in our country, then the casino could also be in trouble if we ever want to withdraw our money. The larger the money we use gambling the more I would try to be correct about following all the rules. Losing 50 USD because we can't withdraw it from the casino is one thing, but if our winnings are 1 or 2,000 USD it would hurt terribly.

[ethereumhunter]

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What do you think?

I read the TOS and didn't see anything there about using VPN. Nevertheless, I am not against working with casinos via VPN. The fact is that this does not carry risks, because the VPN stream is also encrypted, and stealing your data from it is not as easy as it seems. I use several personal VPNs, because in my country there is very strict censorship in relation to casinos, even for access to Bitcointalk you need a VPN, not to mention Roobet, Stake and other gambling sites. It is annoying that VPN often stop working and they need to be changed. But for this I use WireGuard.

If there is nothing about using a VPN, you can still use a VPN. But you have to be careful with your country's regulations because I noticed very strict censorship regarding casinos. Don't get yourself in trouble with your government for using a VPN to access casinos or other sites.

It's really annoying if there are restrictions from our country in accessing anything on the internet and so far, VPNs have really helped people to be able to access these sites. For this reason, we must be careful when using a VPN because the government may still be watching its people. Maybe they haven't taken any action for the people and are still waiting and looking at the situation in your country.

[piebeyb]

I think if using vpn is not against the rules it can be used without hesitation. Yeah casino companies will definitely and strongly discourage you to do it. Its not because they hate people using vpn - they are  probably okay with it. BUT, there are many legal binding gambling companies need to face. So they are forced to discourage use of vpn. Its little bit grey are because of all these. But I think there won't be big issues if you use it.

Yes, I think the use of a VPN is not a problem for some casinos, but we will never know the changes that occur in the casino, it's best if the ISP doesn't prohibit us from accessing the casino, why use a VPN, just because we don't want to use the original IP, why so? must use a VPN because they basically save our browsing results too.

There are still many ways to access gambling sites even though ISPs block us from accessing gambling because we don't have to use a VPN and there are still many ways that might be much safer so that it doesn't become a problem in the future, I'm someone who always thinks about that and never wants to use a VPN for fear of serious problems It is not desirable especially for the casino to freeze our account and our deposit money.

[Crypt0Gore]

You will never know, they might use it on you if you one day win a jackpot, I am not saying stake.com is capable of such an act but you will never know.

If you want to gamble on any online casino it's better to always play safe, VPN will one day ruin your gambling experience for you because.

Even premium VPN servers do some silly things too.

IP Address do change as time goes on.

Even DNS can change while you are still connected to a certain location.

Here is my question regarding VPN and casinos, are there some countries where you can't use a VPN to operate a casino? How will anyone know that I am connected via VPN to any online casino? If this is possible, then the government is spying on his on people, but which country upholds such laws?

[KTChampions]

Why would you use a VPN, if online gambling is allowed in your country?
If you have to use a VPN in order to access an online casino, this means that your Internet Service Provider(ISP) is restricting your access to online gambling platforms, in accordance to you country's legislation and regulations.
Using a VPN to access a gambling website means that you are breaking the laws of your country. The online casino might take your deposits and even allow you to withdraw your profits, but what if the VPN company reports your browsing history to your country's authorities?
I know that this is close to impossible to happen, but some VPN companies don't delete your browsing data.

You say that like it's a bad thing to break the law 
You are too subjective in this matter. If you live in a civilized country that respects human rights, then this does not mean that everyone lives in such countries. Probably in most countries of the world people suffer from the oppression of groups that have seized power, so breaking the law is not something bad, but just a way to exercise their rights.

[Yatsan]

But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?

Why would you use a VPN, if online gambling is allowed in your country?
If you have to use a VPN in order to access an online casino, this means that your Internet Service Provider(ISP) is restricting your access to online gambling platforms, in accordance to you country's legislation and regulations.
Using a VPN to access a gambling website means that you are breaking the laws of your country. The online casino might take your deposits and even allow you to withdraw your profits, but what if the VPN company reports your browsing history to your country's authorities?
I know that this is close to impossible to happen, but some VPN companies don't delete your browsing data.

You say that like it's a bad thing to break the law 
You are too subjective in this matter. If you live in a civilized country that respects human rights, then this does not mean that everyone lives in such countries. Probably in most countries of the world people suffer from the oppression of groups that have seized power, so breaking the law is not something bad, but just a way to exercise their rights.

Law is given by people with authority and in this industry  those are gambling site owners or providers. If it is law in general then we would mostly be guilty given that gambling as an activity is prohibited to many countries so what makes us better than others? Also, those who are using Vpn are the ones at risk of being taken advantage of simply because of irregularities with network and overall accessibility to the site.

[cabron]

Casino today could be planning to have mirrors just like Stake where they do have a lot of it with different domain extensions. If there is .BTC domain, they would have gotten it already.

The gamblers who risk their funds just so they can play I think are really the kind of gamblers who are hard to the core which the casinos are also not going to betray, these are the gamblers who are going to convince the rest of the flocks to play on their platform despite the country blocking them. These are the gamblers who will recommend to use of VPN to their fellow countrymen. Casinos wouldn't want to trick these gamblers, they are loyal gamblers to be.

[livingfree]

But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?

Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.

[len01]

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maybe there are already some right answers but in my personal opinion I do sometimes use VPN to access certain sites when I want to unblock sites but for Stake I very rarely use VPN because Stake has several mirror sites that I can easily use according to my IP . this means that there are several choices of sites that I can choose to still be able to access the Stake site without VPN making it easier for customers to avoid VPN and there is a channel in the Stake telegram about the mirror site.

for me using a VPN is a little insecure because one day if there is a problem with withdrawals or deposits this will be a major problem related to using a VPN so I very rarely use a VPN preferring to gamble safely on the right site rather than force using a VPN.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?

Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.

Let assume that the country banned their citizens access to a particular gambling site, and some citizens in that country decided to use VPN to access the casino, I don't think there is any problem with that, I mean the casino in particular should not have a problem with that, the only time that can become a problem particularly for the user or users is when for whatever reason, the casino asks for a KYC verification, and this is only because the location in the document used for the verification will be different from the location, IP such user have been accessing the casino with, this is the only area where i think problem might arise from..

One time Nigerian government banned the citizens access to twitter, several of us turned to VPN to access our twitter accounts, there was never a problem, though this can not be compared to gambling casinos though, the only time i feel using VPN can become really problematic is when its the casino that banned the use of VPN in their site, and some gamblers from restricted areas decide to use VPN to access and play on the same casino.

[Mahanton]

But those players who are using VPN are simply finding a way to access a gambling platform and not by means of cheating the game. Indeed there are restrictions to some gambling sites regarding this concern but if the house itself allows it  then who are we as players to oppose it without any given cheating incidents?

Exactly.

Those gamblers that can't find a way so they ending up using VPN. It's either their country has banned online gambling or that casino doesn't allow residents on that specific country to gamble.

But the decision will depend on the casino and I think most of those that are using VPN that are from restricted countries are likely to have the problems.

While there are gamblers that just wanna use VPN to hide their internet protocol.

Only a few would really be having that reasoning that just because they do love on hiding up their IP location on why they do make use of VPN compared to those people who do have restricted access due to country ban.
There's no sense that people would be making use of VPN if they arent really that restricted considering that most IP providers do give out that dynamic and not static ip address which it could really changed out on the time that you would really be able to reset out the router on which it would really be just that normal that they wont really be bothering themselves in regarding to this matter. Whenever you do see that there's on their terms and conditions in regarding about country restriction then why would really be forcing up yourself to play if there are lots of options out there on which you could really be able to play on? Why would really be trying out
to break those terms and conditions of a certain site and pushing for you to play even if its against their house rules? This is why dont get shocked if you have been caught and suddenly blocked and those funds been locked up. People wont really bother about the risks involved as long  they could really be able to play.Well, its their money to make use of and have the full rights on what they should gonna do though.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Everything's gonna make more sense if it's officially authorized by the casino, just like you said...
They'd prevail in court if it were to be a big problem tomorrow - it can somehow be a liverage since there are no clues on how to spot this accounts easily - yessss, I didn't say there are no ways to do so. The other way round, the rules of anonymity Is totally broken and some confidential informations, stand a chance to be leaked - should anything fishy is perceived. _{we've got alot of sites that don't even care about your existence...lol}

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Bitinity]

There are game providers that block a country even though the player is not in a restricted region.  That is the reason for some players why they use VPN. But as for me, I won't dare to use a VPN just to access a certain game provider.  It is better to be safe than sorry.

This is the reason why I used to use VPN in the past in duelbits and stake. It was because I wanted to play Relax Gaming, No Limit City and Push Gaming, all these 3 were not be able to be played from my original IP while I love these 3 providers much in the past. Nowadays only relax gaming that I cant play with my original IP, but I do not play relax gaming anymore now so I do not have to use VPN again. In the past, I asked support first before I used VPN. At that time support said that it is fine, but I'm not really sure about now because there might be a change in the terms of the casinos.

[_BlackStar]

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I don't have much to say about it and don't want to beat around the bush either; avoid VPNs if you don't want to get yourself into trouble.

If you've read the TOS of the gambling platform you're visiting and you can't find them banning VPNs - then maybe using it is a safe practice. But VPNs are banned in some casinos - meaning you should avoid them regardless of your reason for using them. The best gamblers are the ones who don't violate the rules of the casino they're spending their money on including not using a VPN - however gamblers can still be banned for other reasons until they can no longer use their accounts because they are frozen.