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May 20, 2024, 07:17:44 PM
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Atalanta and Leverkusen have a similar seasonal consistency, they kept in position to fight for top four finish. Xabi Alonso has changed Leverkusen to be a powerhouse in Bundesliga and Europa League. This season, Leverkusen is not only different, but also having a remarkable season that is almost impossible to compete with.

Despite anything can happen in football, I don't think Head to Head history is accurate to to determine the chances of who deserves to be the favorite while Leverkusen is having a freak season. However, the latest performance is more rational to analyze the chance. Atalanta is having their peak form this season with a long winning streak that leads them to have big chance to finish top four, but they fail to win Copa Italia by lost to Juventus. Leverkusen is in a high morale to gain their biggest achievement in the history of the club, this kind of spirit is scary to play against.
Of course, recent team performance is the most realistic thing to use as a benchmark in determining both teams' title chances, but ignoring H2H completely is also unjustified. I have seen many teams play very badly in a season but they have a good performance when they face an opponent they often beat in their head-to-head record. It seems simple, but there are many teams who always want to maintain their H2H record and this will also motivate Atalanta to do better.

Even though I am aware that Leverkusen is the favorite in the final, because Atalanta has a pretty good record and performance, both teams have their own chances of winning. Many users are optimistic about Leverkusen, but in football this kind of optimism may not always correspond to what is expected as the final result of a match.

It is not possible to consider the favorite team for this year's Europa League final considering the performance of the two teams in the head-to-head matches or the performance of these two teams in the previous season. Because the performance of the Leverkusen team this season is completely different. Leverkusen is performing well this season. And Leverkusen's performance is surprising everyone. Leverkusen have not lost a single match this season.

Although the Leverkusen team is in very good form, the Atalanta team cannot be considered weak. Although Leverkusen is strong, Atalanta's players have the ability to beat Leverkusen. So no doubt this match is going to be very competitive.

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May 20, 2024, 08:24:34 PM
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Atalanta is still fighting for some Champions LEague spot on Serie A, so maybe they can come to the final with a Champions LEague next seasons ecured, or more tired and without that, is a minor thing but in the overall analisys still a important thing to know when we are gonna analize the final.
I don't think Atalanta is really in any form of difficult situation regarding the Champions League qualification next season. They are 3 points ahead of their major contender, AS Roma and still have two matches to go whereas Roma just have their last match against Enpoli, another team that need to win their next match in order to escape relegation.  Atalanta can easily win Torino and possibly draw Fiorentina, either of which will confirm their spot in the Champions League next season. So, I don't think this will deter them from giving their best in the Europa League final.

Until now LEverkusen is 65% odds and Atalanta 35% odds for me.
This is a fair rating if you ask me. I expect it to even increase more in favour of Bayern Leverkusen as we get closer to the date of the match reason being that they are obviously the favorite side and it will take only luck for Atalanta to defeat them.

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May 20, 2024, 08:45:49 PM
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Atalanta is still fighting for some Champions LEague spot on Serie A, so maybe they can come to the final with a Champions LEague next seasons ecured, or more tired and without that, is a minor thing but in the overall analisys still a important thing to know when we are gonna analize the final.
Atalanta is now certain to qualify for the UCL League next season because Atalanta has two matches remaining and As Roma has one match remaining. So Atalanta only needs a draw to qualify. Even if the scenario is that Atalanta loses the remaining two matches and As Roma wins the remaining matches, Atalanta will still qualify because the points are the same but Atalanta wins on goal difference. So in my opinion Atalanta's main focus at the moment is the European league final, I don't mean to rule out the Serie A match, but their position in the Serie A standings is safe to secure a ticket to the UCL league next season.

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Until now LEverkusen is 65% odds and Atalanta 35% odds for me.
This season's Europa League final match was very interesting and of course fierce. Because you could say that these two teams were a surprise, so this Europa final is full of history. Indeed, if you look at Leverkusen's performance this season, it would not be surprising if they qualified for the final, except for Atalanta. But don't take Atalanta lightly if Leverkusen's fate doesn't want to be like Liverpool's. Atalanta is currently on fire even though it is not as great as Leverkusen's performance, but in the final match of course all teams will appear different because the final match is full of pressure and mentality.

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May 20, 2024, 08:53:06 PM
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Sorry guys, I want to correct a little about what you said if Atlanta is still struggling in Serie A for the champions league zone, previously I wanted to say if this season Serie A gets 5 slots for the team to play in the champions league next season, while Atlanta is now ranked 5th in the Serie A standings with 66 points, while Roma who are ranked 63 points and only 3 points behind Atlanta,  If Atlanta lose their last two remaining games, of course Atlanta still has a better points difference than Roma, so indeed for now Atlanta no longer need to fight to reach the Champions League zone next season because indeed they have long had a tickets.

Currently, Atlanta is definitely focusing on the European League final as their main target this season and in my opinion they no longer have a burden on Serie A after they succeeded in securing a place in the Champions League next season, when we look at Leverkusen performance which is indeed in very good condition and even being able to maintain an unbeaten record, of course it is not surprising if they have a greater chance of winning the European league this season.
The Bundeliga and Serie A have 5 slots to qualify directly for the Champions League group stages next season after the implementation of the new format. This is clearly welcomed and with it Atalanta has claimed a ticket to next season's Champions League due to its points tally. Atalanta and Roma can still have the same points if Roma can win the final match of the season and Atalanta loses the remaining two matches, but Atalanta looks more confident in going to the Champions League than Roma.

Leverkusen's performance throughout this season has been very good and it is very difficult for any team that is their opponent this season to stop this run. Leverkusen managed to close the Bundesliga season with an unbeaten record, meanwhile they will also try to do the same in the Europa League. Atalanta has a chance, but not as high as Leverkusen based on their recent performance.

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May 21, 2024, 05:31:57 AM
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It's hard to know how people think, so while the coach can tell them to play without underestimating their opponent some players might have the thought on their mind. But they're professional footballers with good form anyway, so there's a higher guarantee that something like being complacent won't happen. I do hope there's a surprise so the match is interesting to watch for neutrals. Stuff like going to extra time, winning goals in the last minute of the match, etc. It will be stressful for the fans though.
When the players have felt how it feels when they have difficulty competing in competitions, the players will definitely know what to do when the coach has directed the players not to brag too much about having won in many matches because arrogance will boomerang for them when their opponents are able to put up fiercer resistance and provide a surprise. I don't think the Leverkusen players will do that, they know that the opponent they are facing is not a weak opponent because Atalanta was able to beat Liverpool in the quarter-final match. So Leverkusen must not underestimate Atalanta and prepare yourself to perform as well as possible to win the Europa League title.

Indeed, in the Europa League there is usually always a surprise at the end and the favorite club has difficulty winning this title but I think Leverkusen is different, they deserve to be the favorites to win the Europa League title because of their strong performance in all competitions and Xabi Alonso has prepared a good strategy to beat his opponent in the final, they do have the same chance of getting the title but Leverkusen's confidence is greater than that so I think the Leverkusen players will perform as well as possible because they are full of confidence.

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May 21, 2024, 05:32:12 AM
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The Bundeliga and Serie A have 5 slots to qualify directly for the Champions League group stages next season after the implementation of the new format. This is clearly welcomed and with it Atalanta has claimed a ticket to next season's Champions League due to its points tally. Atalanta and Roma can still have the same points if Roma can win the final match of the season and Atalanta loses the remaining two matches, but Atalanta looks more confident in going to the Champions League than Roma.
Atalanta success in qualifying for the Europa League final was due to being able to perform impressively this season. Atalanta will also ensure that they finish in the Champions League zone if they are able to collect more points than Roma. If Atalanta is able to beat Leverkusen at the Aviva Stadium, then Italy will have six representatives in the Champions League next season.
It looks like Atalanta will find it difficult to make this happen because Leverkusen has appeared very strong this season, Xabi Alonso team has also just become the new champions in the Bundesliga without ever being touched by defeat. So far, in the 51 matches that Leverkusen has played in all competitions this season, Xabi Alonso team has managed to achieve 42 wins and 9 draws.

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May 21, 2024, 05:35:20 AM
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The Bundeliga and Serie A have 5 slots to qualify directly for the Champions League group stages next season after the implementation of the new format. This is clearly welcomed and with it Atalanta has claimed a ticket to next season's Champions League due to its points tally. Atalanta and Roma can still have the same points if Roma can win the final match of the season and Atalanta loses the remaining two matches, but Atalanta looks more confident in going to the Champions League than Roma.
Atalanta success in qualifying for the Europa League final was due to being able to perform impressively this season. Atalanta will also ensure that they finish in the Champions League zone if they are able to collect more points than Roma. If Atalanta is able to beat Leverkusen at the Aviva Stadium, then Italy will have six representatives in the Champions League next season.
It looks like Atalanta will find it difficult to make this happen because Leverkusen has appeared very strong this season, Xabi Alonso team has also just become the new champions in the Bundesliga without ever being touched by defeat. So far, in the 51 matches that Leverkusen has played in all competitions this season, Xabi Alonso team has managed to achieve 42 wins and 9 draws.

There is a Leverkusen that is undefeated in the European league, German cup and Bundesliga. It is very difficult to beat Leverkusen and Atalanta has to pay special attention to this issue. They are now 90 minutes away from the cup. Why shouldn't they win with an extraordinary game like in the Liverpool match? Even though Leverkusen is a difficult team, as far as I remember, they drew or won in the last minutes in 16 matches. This number is very high so they can be eaten. The fact that their only defeat was in the UEL final affected them deeply.

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May 21, 2024, 05:42:59 AM
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The Bundeliga and Serie A have 5 slots to qualify directly for the Champions League group stages next season after the implementation of the new format. This is clearly welcomed and with it Atalanta has claimed a ticket to next season's Champions League due to its points tally. Atalanta and Roma can still have the same points if Roma can win the final match of the season and Atalanta loses the remaining two matches, but Atalanta looks more confident in going to the Champions League than Roma.
Atalanta have better goal difference than Roma and they will only lose the fifth position in Serie A if they lose two remaining matches in Serie A, big defeats are necessary, and Roma must win big in their last match. I see these conditions will hardly to appear at the same time from both teams so it's realistic to conclude that the fifth position already belongs to Atalanta.

To be safe to get that fifth position, Atalanta only need to get one point from two remaining matches to complete the season with that position and don't have to care about Roma.

If Atalanta is able to beat Leverkusen at the Aviva Stadium, then Italy will have six representatives in the Champions League next season.
It looks like Atalanta will find it difficult to make this happen because Leverkusen has appeared very strong this season, Xabi Alonso team has also just become the new champions in the Bundesliga without ever being touched by defeat. So far, in the 51 matches that Leverkusen has played in all competitions this season, Xabi Alonso team has managed to achieve 42 wins and 9 draws.
This season can end as unbeaten and with three titles for Leverkusen or it can end with one or two defeats in their last two matches of the season. We can not say anything before two final matches end but Atalanta surely will not care about record of Leverkusen. They have their own ambition and targets in this season, the fifth position in Serie A that is nearly achieved, and win the Europa League final match that is what they will have to seriously fight against Leverkusen in the next week.

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The Bundeliga and Serie A have 5 slots to qualify directly for the Champions League group stages next season after the implementation of the new format. This is clearly welcomed and with it Atalanta has claimed a ticket to next season's Champions League due to its points tally. Atalanta and Roma can still have the same points if Roma can win the final match of the season and Atalanta loses the remaining two matches, but Atalanta looks more confident in going to the Champions League than Roma.
Atalanta success in qualifying for the Europa League final was due to being able to perform impressively this season. Atalanta will also ensure that they finish in the Champions League zone if they are able to collect more points than Roma. If Atalanta is able to beat Leverkusen at the Aviva Stadium, then Italy will have six representatives in the Champions League next season.
It looks like Atalanta will find it difficult to make this happen because Leverkusen has appeared very strong this season, Xabi Alonso team has also just become the new champions in the Bundesliga without ever being touched by defeat. So far, in the 51 matches that Leverkusen has played in all competitions this season, Xabi Alonso team has managed to achieve 42 wins and 9 draws.
There is a Leverkusen that is undefeated in the European league, German cup and Bundesliga. It is very difficult to beat Leverkusen and Atalanta has to pay special attention to this issue. They are now 90 minutes away from the cup. Why shouldn't they win with an extraordinary game like in the Liverpool match? Even though Leverkusen is a difficult team, as far as I remember, they drew or won in the last minutes in 16 matches. This number is very high so they can be eaten. The fact that their only defeat was in the UEL final affected them deeply.


We know that Leverkusen are in very good form this season. The Leverkusen team is yet to lose a single match in any competition. Leverkusen qualified for the Europa League final after defeating West Ham and Roma.

However, the Atalanta team cannot be called weak. Qualified for the final by defeating the likes of Liverpool and Marseille. Winning against the likes of Marseille and Liverpool was no easy task. However, the Atalanta team won easily. So I don't think the Leverkusen team will easily win the final and become Europa League champions. Atalanta team is in good form now. Atalanta's players are also confident. So both have a chance to win.

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Atalanta success in qualifying for the Europa League final was due to being able to perform impressively this season. Atalanta will also ensure that they finish in the Champions League zone if they are able to collect more points than Roma. If Atalanta is able to beat Leverkusen at the Aviva Stadium, then Italy will have six representatives in the Champions League next season.
Tell me how it's true, would you tell me the scenario?
As far as is known, Atalanta will most likely lock up the last 5/5 slot available in Serie A to qualify for the Champions League group stage next season. Atalanta and Roma have a difference of 3 points, but Atalanta has 2 matches compared to Roma's 1. Even if Atalanta loses in the Europa League final, they will still qualify if they manage to win 1 point in the 2 final matches of the season.

If Atalanta manages to win the Europa League title, then the 6th slot will belong to Roma or Lazio?

It looks like Atalanta will find it difficult to make this happen because Leverkusen has appeared very strong this season, Xabi Alonso team has also just become the new champions in the Bundesliga without ever being touched by defeat. So far, in the 51 matches that Leverkusen has played in all competitions this season, Xabi Alonso team has managed to achieve 42 wins and 9 draws.
Yes, that is the biggest worry facing Atalanta fans. Leverkusen are certainly very good and have a big chance of winning the title, but Atalanta also wants to win it because they are fighting for the same thing.

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We know that Leverkusen are in very good form this season. The Leverkusen team is yet to lose a single match in any competition. Leverkusen qualified for the Europa League final after defeating West Ham and Roma.

However, the Atalanta team cannot be called weak. Qualified for the final by defeating the likes of Liverpool and Marseille. Winning against the likes of Marseille and Liverpool was no easy task. However, the Atalanta team won easily. So I don't think the Leverkusen team will easily win the final and become Europa League champions. Atalanta team is in good form now. Atalanta's players are also confident. So both have a chance to win.
Leverkusen has the momentum right now. Their form in the Bundesliga this year has been excellent, with many wins. In the next Europa League final, the world is eager to see Leverkusen continue their success. And honestly that's the people don't usually pay much attention to Atalanta, but they're a very tough team to play against. We're definitely going to witness an incredible final. Atalanta is strong and can create problems for Leverkusen. Even though it's hard to say who will win, I'm hoping for Leverkusen.
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We know that Leverkusen are in very good form this season. The Leverkusen team is yet to lose a single match in any competition. Leverkusen qualified for the Europa League final after defeating West Ham and Roma.

However, the Atalanta team cannot be called weak. Qualified for the final by defeating the likes of Liverpool and Marseille. Winning against the likes of Marseille and Liverpool was no easy task. However, the Atalanta team won easily. So I don't think the Leverkusen team will easily win the final and become Europa League champions. Atalanta team is in good form now. Atalanta's players are also confident. So both have a chance to win.
Leverkusen has the momentum right now. Their form in the Bundesliga this year has been excellent, with many wins. In the next Europa League final, the world is eager to see Leverkusen continue their success. And honestly that's the people don't usually pay much attention to Atalanta, but they're a very tough team to play against. We're definitely going to witness an incredible final. Atalanta is strong and can create problems for Leverkusen. Even though it's hard to say who will win, I'm hoping for Leverkusen.
I see that the two teams have almost the same strength so I am sure that the stadium atmosphere in the final match will also be very exciting. Bayer Leverkusen is in high confidence after being able to win the Bundesliga title without defeat, this is clearly an asset for them to continue the positive trend. Atalanta also has big ambitions to win the title but they have to fight extra hard to be able to knock out their opponents. But Leverkusen remains the favorite and there will be quite a lot of people betting on him.

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i was surprised to see the final is so close, i dont know why the Europa League final is early than the conference one, i dont know why this keep happening, if Europa League is the second tier competition of europe and conference league the third tier competition why is the second before?.

It had to be Conference final, UEL final and UCL final.
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Leverkusen has the momentum right now. Their form in the Bundesliga this year has been excellent, with many wins. In the next Europa League final, the world is eager to see Leverkusen continue their success. And honestly that's the people don't usually pay much attention to Atalanta, but they're a very tough team to play against. We're definitely going to witness an incredible final. Atalanta is strong and can create problems for Leverkusen. Even though it's hard to say who will win, I'm hoping for Leverkusen.
This season Europa League final match is like the Champions League final which also brings together a favorite team and an underdog, Leverkusen this season is the favorite to win the Europa League With their extraordinary record and achievements this season, Leverkusen have managed to make new history in the Bundesliga and of course they will also try to do it in the Europa League this season,  While Atlanta, who had never been seeded to reach the final, were able to surprise us with their ability to destroy Liverpool and make all eyes turn their eyes to the Italian team, although both had inversely proportional performances, but in my opinion the chances of both of them winning remained 50/50.

What you are saying is quite true, at the moment of course Atlanta is a club that is underestimated because they compete with Leverkusen, but doesn't the underdog team have no burden at all and it is clear that it will be a motivating factor for them to silence all judgments against them, as like as Atlanta who will most likely play carefree in the game and of course they will try to surprise Leverkusen Like they did against Liverpool, we often see underdogs destroy favourites and I think maybe Atlanta will try to do that in the final.

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i was surprised to see the final is so close, i dont know why the Europa League final is early than the conference one, i dont know why this keep happening, if Europa League is the second tier competition of europe and conference league the third tier competition why is the second before?.

It had to be Conference final, UEL final and UCL final.

It is a question of programming, marketing then it is giving in a certain way the possibility of attracting followers by being in the middle of those two great competitions. There are football fans who are only interested in the UCL final, and do not find out about the other two finals, however for the football fan the order of the factors does not alter their fanaticism.  Smiley

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i was surprised to see the final is so close, i dont know why the Europa League final is early than the conference one, i dont know why this keep happening, if Europa League is the second tier competition of europe and conference league the third tier competition why is the second before?.

It had to be Conference final, UEL final and UCL final.
The UEFA Champions League ranked first, followed by Europa League and Conference. You do make a point though, we have watch how these longing competition have become one of the top tournaments in the European football world. Everyone gets to watch their favorite side play and not just that but also involving staking which will become one of the promising means to abstract. It mean something? I don't see any reason for the this event to get pulled so early because its ought to be done accordingly to their standards.



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May 21, 2024, 05:01:23 PM
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i was surprised to see the final is so close, i dont know why the Europa League final is early than the conference one, i dont know why this keep happening, if Europa League is the second tier competition of europe and conference league the third tier competition why is the second before?.

It had to be Conference final, UEL final and UCL final.

Already scheduled. I don't think you have to go first.
Not too much of a problem with the final match between the three competitions because the three final matches have their own allure for every team fan.
Not because European League is at the second level and the European League conference on the third level, but the organizer has arranged it well for several reasons.

The Champions League Final will be the closing match for football league fans. In my opinion the organizers made the Champions League final after two European final matches (European League and European Conference League) show that the UEFA Champions League is the highest competition.

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May 21, 2024, 05:23:41 PM
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There is a Leverkusen that is undefeated in the European league, German cup and Bundesliga. It is very difficult to beat Leverkusen and Atalanta has to pay special attention to this issue. They are now 90 minutes away from the cup. Why shouldn't they win with an extraordinary game like in the Liverpool match? Even though Leverkusen is a difficult team, as far as I remember, they drew or won in the last minutes in 16 matches. This number is very high so they can be eaten. The fact that their only defeat was in the UEL final affected them deeply.
The fact that Leverkusen has achieved success in three different competitions should be used as additional motivation for Atalanta players to hand Leverkusen their first defeat in the UEL Final while dashing their hopes of winning the Treble Winner. It is not impossible that the surprise that Atalanta gave Liverpool will happen again, Atalanta still has 90 to make a surprise even though the chance is very small. Leverkusen can still be beaten as long as their opponents perform better and are able to take advantage of opportunities well. Atalanta must play more aggressively and also build a super strong defense to prevent Leverkusen players from making Atalanta runner up in this competition.

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May 21, 2024, 05:58:20 PM
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The Bundeliga and Serie A have 5 slots to qualify directly for the Champions League group stages next season after the implementation of the new format. This is clearly welcomed and with it Atalanta has claimed a ticket to next season's Champions League due to its points tally. Atalanta and Roma can still have the same points if Roma can win the final match of the season and Atalanta loses the remaining two matches, but Atalanta looks more confident in going to the Champions League than Roma.
Atalanta success in qualifying for the Europa League final was due to being able to perform impressively this season. Atalanta will also ensure that they finish in the Champions League zone if they are able to collect more points than Roma. If Atalanta is able to beat Leverkusen at the Aviva Stadium, then Italy will have six representatives in the Champions League next season.
It looks like Atalanta will find it difficult to make this happen because Leverkusen has appeared very strong this season, Xabi Alonso team has also just become the new champions in the Bundesliga without ever being touched by defeat. So far, in the 51 matches that Leverkusen has played in all competitions this season, Xabi Alonso team has managed to achieve 42 wins and 9 draws.


Everyone knows that Bayern Leverkusen has been in excellent form this season, and it will be extremely tough for Atalanta to overcome them in the Europa League final, but football is unpredictable, and anything can happen, but Xabi will not allow Atalanta to take a chance and defeat them in the game. Leverkusen has finished their league without losing a game, and they will like to finish the competition without losing as well, and if Atlanta wins the game, it means they have broken their season record because they have not lost a match since the group stage, and people are thinking Liverpool can come and break the record, but only Atlanta has defeated them home and away, which is a very shameful thing to the players and the fans. Let's see what Atalanta does against Leverkusen in the final, but I still believe nothing will be done to Xavi Alonso since he is a very talented coach, and any coach who faces him must bite extremely hard if he wants to win him a game. I'm simply hoping that next season begins early and that Leverkusen performs well in the Champions League alongside the other top clubs in the competition. Let's see if Xavi can challenge Manchester City and Real Madrid in the Champions League when they combine.

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The Bundeliga and Serie A have 5 slots to qualify directly for the Champions League group stages next season after the implementation of the new format. This is clearly welcomed and with it Atalanta has claimed a ticket to next season's Champions League due to its points tally. Atalanta and Roma can still have the same points if Roma can win the final match of the season and Atalanta loses the remaining two matches, but Atalanta looks more confident in going to the Champions League than Roma.
Atalanta success in qualifying for the Europa League final was due to being able to perform impressively this season. Atalanta will also ensure that they finish in the Champions League zone if they are able to collect more points than Roma. If Atalanta is able to beat Leverkusen at the Aviva Stadium, then Italy will have six representatives in the Champions League next season.
It looks like Atalanta will find it difficult to make this happen because Leverkusen has appeared very strong this season, Xabi Alonso team has also just become the new champions in the Bundesliga without ever being touched by defeat. So far, in the 51 matches that Leverkusen has played in all competitions this season, Xabi Alonso team has managed to achieve 42 wins and 9 draws.

Atalanta win the finals tomorrow or not, it will still be five teams from Italy that will still go to UCL next season and not six. This is because Atalanta is already on the 5th position which means that they have already qualified for the champions league next season.

Atalanta will give Leverkusen a very tough time and I feel that it will be a difficult win for Leverkusen but they will still be the winner of the league this season. If Atalanta can win Leverkusen, it will be a surprise.

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