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[Catenaccio]

I believe it's a chicken and egg situation because the reason why usage of the Lightning network is low is because there aren't that many services and merchants have adopted the off-chain payment network.

Bitcoin faced with same barriers years ago but its adoption grew well over years. Lightning Network had very low adoption and only grew more quickly since 2020.

With expensive transaction fees on chain, off chain solutions like Lightning Network will be considered to use more. The biggest barrier for LN is, to use LN, people must use Bitcoin on-chain first.

But if suddenly all casinos started accepting Lightning deposits and allow withdrawals through Lightning then I'm quite confident that Bitcoin users would start believing that it's a feasible payment method, and there's no need to convert their Bitcoins to altcoins too.

Rome wasn't built in one day and Lightning Network has some years of building. I believe it will grow more and get more adoption from casinos, merchants.

The advantage of using the Lightning Network is not just for cheaper and faster transactions. It's a good layer that adds privacy for your transactions too.

Is it risk that governments will sanction Lightning Network like they sanction the source code of Tornado Cash?

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[South Park]

I believe it's a chicken and egg situation because the reason why usage of the Lightning network is low is because there aren't that many services and merchants have adopted the off-chain payment network. But if suddenly all casinos started accepting Lightning deposits and allow withdrawals through Lightning then I'm quite confident that Bitcoin users would start believing that it's a feasible payment method, and there's no need to convert their Bitcoins to altcoins too.

The advantage of using the Lightning Network is not just for cheaper and faster transactions. It's a good layer that adds privacy for your transactions too.

Besides business owners should not only think on the now but on what will come next, so if a casino decided to accept deposits and withdrawals with the LN and this became known then all of those that want to use it and want to gamble will have no other option but to use that casino, and by the time other casinos realized what is going on, it will take them some time to react and adopt it too, but once this happened any casino that did this will have a first-mover advantage over the rest, gaining a significant edge which will not be easy to overcome.

[o48o]

Too bad they haven't dropped more info on that shfl token, snapshot is most likely at February 1st like thei going live announcement tweet and i am not at all certain what predictions i should have for this token. So far they are high hopes because of fundamentals they have posted on twitter, but so much have been left unsaid that might affect the value a lot. I shouldn't complain as i don't gamble a lot at the moment as there are too much bills to pay, but with the right incentive i might risk it and purely grind my account up. I know that i am sounding a little self-entitled asking more when i am about to get something for free, but more info before the snapshot would be great.

[komisariatku]

Too bad they haven't dropped more info on that shfl token, snapshot is most likely at February 1st like thei going live announcement tweet and i am not at all certain what predictions i should have for this token. So far they are high hopes because of fundamentals they have posted on twitter, but so much have been left unsaid that might affect the value a lot. I shouldn't complain as i don't gamble a lot at the moment as there are too much bills to pay, but with the right incentive i might risk it and purely grind my account up. I know that i am sounding a little self-entitled asking more when i am about to get something for free, but more info before the snapshot would be great.

All we need to do is wait, I'm sure the shuffle team has a good strategy and their casino will also continue to develop over time. Of course, as a shuffle player, I also hope that I can get SHFL for free and that will make us (shuffle players) happy. Lol 

Maybe what we need to do is increase the wager and VIP level so that when SHFL is launched we can get a lot of shares from the airdrop given to the players. But don't be greedy because chasing the VIP level often requires a lot of money, let's play and get good wins and when the time comes we will get additional bonuses from SHFL tokens. Keep winning bro

[o48o]

Too bad they haven't dropped more info on that shfl token, snapshot is most likely at February 1st like thei going live announcement tweet and i am not at all certain what predictions i should have for this token. So far they are high hopes because of fundamentals they have posted on twitter, but so much have been left unsaid that might affect the value a lot. I shouldn't complain as i don't gamble a lot at the moment as there are too much bills to pay, but with the right incentive i might risk it and purely grind my account up. I know that i am sounding a little self-entitled asking more when i am about to get something for free, but more info before the snapshot would be great.

All we need to do is wait, I'm sure the shuffle team has a good strategy and their casino will also continue to develop over time. Of course, as a shuffle player, I also hope that I can get SHFL for free and that will make us (shuffle players) happy. Lol 

Maybe what we need to do is increase the wager and VIP level so that when SHFL is launched we can get a lot of shares from the airdrop given to the players. But don't be greedy because chasing the VIP level often requires a lot of money, let's play and get good wins and when the time comes we will get additional bonuses from SHFL tokens. Keep winning bro

I will definitely get greedy, and use more money if i sense it's going to be worth it. Gambling for the sake of gambling is whole other thing and nice idea, but my post wasn't really about that.

If we talk purely about gambling in shuffle, i have minor issues with it. RTP is still pretty low in slots, and there aren't that many slots. I know this is new casino an everything and they they will most likely get better. Choices and live stats with sports betting probably get better later too and i would totally love if they reward with 3x higher progress rate with the bets that are settled on the sports book vs casino that would be at normall 1x rate like they do in stake. That would help focus on playing sports instead of grinding house games for higher rank.

Live casino games i haven't yet tried but Original house games are working like a charm now with every device i got.

[panjul07]

New challenge is running on shuffle, those who like to blackjack and its side bet, it is good challenge for you.
The rules is simple, you only need to play the original blackjack and winning the bet with suited 3 of a kind side bet.
Prizepool will be shared equally among those who are lucky enough to hit it.
I'm not sure what is the probability to hit suited 3 of a kind side bet but I think it is low which means the number of winners will not be that much so every winner may get decent reward.
For more information about this challenge https://shuffle.com/promotions/sidebet-jackpot
Be quick because this promo will be running for 2 days only.

[Woodie]

For some unknown reason I think the PC version of shuffle  is far much better than the mobile web based experience as I have seen less errors here when it comes to the sportsbooks, hope as the year unfolds these challenges will be addressed... especially the accept odds changes this pisses me off as its always giving errors



Secondly, shuffle is growing on me and would like to see more markets unveiled here such as 1st quarter betting with other leagues, more options when it comes to over/under unlike only having one option to choose from to go over and under... otherwise so far so good and happy New Year.

[BABY SHOES]

For some unknown reason I think the PC version of shuffle  is far much better than the mobile web based experience as I have seen less errors here when it comes to the sportsbooks, hope as the year unfolds these challenges will be addressed... especially the accept odds changes this pisses me off as its always giving errors

Same what I feel actually buddy
When opening Shuffle from the mobile web what I feel is slow in the sportsbook when looking for the team to choose to bet on, when looking at my bets it is the same so it is very uncomfortable when opening shuffle on the mobile web.

Until now the desktop version is much better without any problems, if I choose then of course the desktop version is more friendly.
I hope with this little complaint they respond faster and improve what we say.

[Ojima-ojo]

I believe it's a chicken and egg situation because the reason why usage of the Lightning network is low is because there aren't that many services and merchants have adopted the off-chain payment network. But if suddenly all casinos started accepting Lightning deposits and allow withdrawals through Lightning then I'm quite confident that Bitcoin users would start believing that it's a feasible payment method, and there's no need to convert their Bitcoins to altcoins too.

The advantage of using the Lightning Network is not just for cheaper and faster transactions. It's a good layer that adds privacy for your transactions too.

Besides business owners should not only think on the now but on what will come next, so if a casino decided to accept deposits and withdrawals with the LN and this became known then all of those that want to use it and want to gamble will have no other option but to use that casino, and by the time other casinos realized what is going on, it will take them some time to react and adopt it too, but once this happened any casino that did this will have a first-mover advantage over the rest, gaining a significant edge which will not be easy to overcome.

Even if a casino adopt the lightening network to aids Bitcoin transactions on the cassinos, it will not still meet the demand due to some technicalities that comes along with LN network sets, majority of the casinos users will rather use the Bitcoin network by paying the high fees or waiting for long time for they transactions to go through, this technicalities is what ha e limits the adoption of Bitcoin lightening network world wide.


I think that, at the moment, Bitcoin network need alot of promotions and teaching that will broaden the understanding of the ordinary Bitcoin users l, so as to increase it the knowledge of the development to easy it adoption and usabilities.

[wiss19]

For some unknown reason I think the PC version of shuffle  is far much better than the mobile web based experience as I have seen less errors here when it comes to the sportsbooks, hope as the year unfolds these challenges will be addressed... especially the accept odds changes this pisses me off as its always giving errors



Secondly, shuffle is growing on me and would like to see more markets unveiled here such as 1st quarter betting with other leagues, more options when it comes to over/under unlike only having one option to choose from to go over and under... otherwise so far so good and happy New Year.

Yeah the number of markets is quite low compared to other bookies but they are new and hopefully gets better. One thing I would like to suggest Shuffle is to work on their sports odds because I have seen some really bad odds like 1.7 and 1.6 on the winner market for low-profile games.

Casino is flawless and works smoothly though, so that's good. Saw a guy winning $200k yesterday on retro on Shuffle tw so it's good to see big players are moving to Shuffle now. Builds more trust for small players like us.

[camshuffle]

Hosting a $10,000 poker night

Players with a VIP Host are eligible to play, 20k in poker night prizes already paid out

VIP program is growing fast, so expect the prizes to keep going up  

https://i.imgur.com/QwJltHp.jpg

[panjul07]

Hosting a $10,000 poker night

Players with a VIP Host are eligible to play, 20k in poker night prizes already paid out

VIP program is growing fast, so expect the prizes to keep going up  

https://i.imgur.com/QwJltHp.jpg

What a nice offer to VIP players with a VIP host, how many players were there at the 20k poker night?
To be VIP player with a host required to be at Jade level, 1.2M wager requirement to ba a jade.
I'm far away to that level but it is not impossible to be there because I've wagered more than 5M in other casino.
Maybe it will take several months for me to reach Jade, hope to be there soon especially the poker night.

[xLays]

Hosting a $10,000 poker night

Players with a VIP Host are eligible to play, 20k in poker night prizes already paid out

VIP program is growing fast, so expect the prizes to keep going up  

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[camshuffle]

Hosting a $10,000 poker night

Players with a VIP Host are eligible to play, 20k in poker night prizes already paid out

VIP program is growing fast, so expect the prizes to keep going up  

https://i.imgur.com/QwJltHp.jpg

What a nice offer to VIP players with a VIP host, how many players were there at the 20k poker night?
To be VIP player with a host required to be at Jade level, 1.2M wager requirement to ba a jade.
I'm far away to that level but it is not impossible to be there because I've wagered more than 5M in other casino.
Maybe it will take several months for me to reach Jade, hope to be there soon especially the poker night.

The Christmas Poker Night had around 70 players. Poker nights are becoming more popular, I think we'll break 100 active players next game.

Looking forward to hosting you when you hit Jade! Good luck!

[camshuffle]

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Hesitant to forgo some benefits and take a chance on us?

Message me on Telegram @camshuffle and receive 15% instant lossback on top of our regular VIP bonuses for your first month of play to try us out!

[o48o]

Hosting a $10,000 poker night

Players with a VIP Host are eligible to play, 20k in poker night prizes already paid out

VIP program is growing fast, so expect the prizes to keep going up  

https://i.imgur.com/QwJltHp.jpg

This reminded me that as this was a third party poker site, i wanted to ask if you have plans in the future to breach out and build poker events inside your casino?
I understand that it's a whole another beast to build, but one can dream.

Poker tournaments are more intense past time to me then regular casino and sports, as it requires constant awareness.
But i would happily do it from time to time for money especially if it would happen in the casino i liked and if i might get an airdrop from it with shfl .

[Wind_FURY]

I believe it's a chicken and egg situation because the reason why usage of the Lightning network is low is because there aren't that many services and merchants have adopted the off-chain payment network. But if suddenly all casinos started accepting Lightning deposits and allow withdrawals through Lightning then I'm quite confident that Bitcoin users would start believing that it's a feasible payment method, and there's no need to convert their Bitcoins to altcoins too.

The advantage of using the Lightning Network is not just for cheaper and faster transactions. It's a good layer that adds privacy for your transactions too.

Besides business owners should not only think on the now but on what will come next, so if a casino decided to accept deposits and withdrawals with the LN and this became known then all of those that want to use it and want to gamble will have no other option but to use that casino, and by the time other casinos realized what is going on, it will take them some time to react and adopt it too, but once this happened any casino that did this will have a first-mover advantage over the rest, gaining a significant edge which will not be easy to overcome.

Plus there's probably enough idle liquidity that have boot-strapped Lightning that doesn't know where to go because there's not that many merchants/services that accept it. If other users could suggest an altcoin, why not Lightning?

Hosting a $10,000 poker night

Players with a VIP Host are eligible to play, 20k in poker night prizes already paid out

VIP program is growing fast, so expect the prizes to keep going up  

https://i.imgur.com/QwJltHp.jpg

What a nice offer to VIP players with a VIP host, how many players were there at the 20k poker night?
To be VIP player with a host required to be at Jade level, 1.2M wager requirement to ba a jade.
I'm far away to that level but it is not impossible to be there because I've wagered more than 5M in other casino.
Maybe it will take several months for me to reach Jade, hope to be there soon especially the poker night.

The Christmas Poker Night had around 70 players. Poker nights are becoming more popular, I think we'll break 100 active players next game.

Looking forward to hosting you when you hit Jade! Good luck!

Why not host a freeroll poker tournament for levels Wood to Platinum? Top 5 players get to win 5 seats for the Jade VIP tournament and be given an opportunity to play with the high-rollers. I believe that would not only be good from a marketing perspective, but it will encourage building a community as well.

[panjul07]

Why not host a freeroll poker tournament for levels Wood to Platinum? Top 5 players get to win 5 seats for the Jade VIP tournament and be given an opportunity to play with the high-rollers. I believe that would not only be good from a marketing perspective, but it will encourage building a community as well.

Good idea, it will be great if they will do your suggestion, at least it may make all VIP players able to join the poker tournament without waiting to be Jade first.
If they cant do it for free, maybe they can make it with cheap buy in like few dollars in order to join the poker tournament to win the free tickets for the VIP tournament.
Hope they will consider it, or maybe they can do it with other tournament on the site such as who have hit specific multiplier in any game on the site will get free tickets for the Jade+ tournament.

[BABY SHOES]

On @noah's twitter, he announced that Shuffle's anniversary was on February 1, which means that the casino has been going strong and continues to grow.

@noah is holding a giveaway guessing all the total number of bets Shuffle has on February 1st if someone comes close will win $1000.

[1] https://twitter.com/noahdummett/status/1747093445091750136

[o48o]

Why not host a freeroll poker tournament for levels Wood to Platinum? Top 5 players get to win 5 seats for the Jade VIP tournament and be given an opportunity to play with the high-rollers. I believe that would not only be good from a marketing perspective, but it will encourage building a community as well.

This makes sense, there are lots of gamblers that don't have the time to rank up, but who would be affected by this kind of advertisement and check the shuffle out. They might become fans just for knowing that they might enjoy this kind of benefits in the future.

Also as a someone who is not a vip host i would appreciate such an opportunity. But as they wouldn't want to angry their vip hosts, there should be both kinds of games, so vip hosts could enjoy their exclusive club benefits more.