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[panjul07]

The banner for the challenge is no longer available in the casino page, so I think it is finished already, have you done it?

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What a bad luck, sorry to hear that.
I was in negative as well when I tried to complete the challenge but not as much as yours.
I took a screenshot when I finished the challenge and here is my overall statistic when I completed the challenge:

Maybe I could lose less because I did not stop the autobet at the right time as I left it for a while and I stopped it when I noticed that I hit the target 3 times already.

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[Little Mouse]

Well, I had a bad luck when I tried to participate in the $10k wheel challenge. It took almost 380 bets to give me the 49.50× multiplier 3 times. Which was completely unexpected.

I was lucky to hit the 49.50x in my first attempt lol (total surprise) but later I couldn't hit anymore although I haven't played a lot.

[dimonstration]

I just found this forum, and after reading the recent messages, I had to jump in.

Are you guys serious?
It's pretty obvious that you all initially wagered around 100k, lost it all, and haven't wagered since. Yet, you're hoping to grab a piece of the pie even though you haven't been contributing with much.

And let me ask, if early wager should count for more, how much more exactly? Double? Triple? Or should we just ignore everyone else and say, "Screw it, only people from the first month matter"?

Good luck with the airdrop and your 100k wager! Hope the 4k airdrop ends up changing your life.
-Him

Formula for that is not public information yet, so are those rhetoric questions? And even if we did have it would probably be hard to calculate if they have balanced it out some weird ways.

And since i am getting a hostile vibes from your post, i have to ask what you are even angry about? The fact we are uninformed about this? Seems like a waste of your time. Like noah said: "it's not that drastic".

I agree on what Noah statement about multiplier since those players that play earlier without expecting any airdrop should be rewarded more due to their loyalty. This is a good feature to avoid new whales farming more tokens just because they knew already that there’s an airdrop.

It’s like rewarding early investors that trust and support the casino without expecting any tokens when playing. I’m sure those newly onboard players that play hard on the last month before snapshot might be triggered with this decision but this is really fair for me because the tokens is completely free. I’m not an early airdrop receiver but I accept this decision as fair for their early loyalty.

I’m excited on what will be the initial price of the token once distributed.

[o48o]

I agree on what Noah statement about multiplier since those players that play earlier without expecting any airdrop should be rewarded more due to their loyalty. This is a good feature to avoid new whales farming more tokens just because they knew already that there’s an airdrop.

It’s like rewarding early investors that trust and support the casino without expecting any tokens when playing. I’m sure those newly onboard players that play hard on the last month before snapshot might be triggered with this decision but this is really fair for me because the tokens is completely free. I’m not an early airdrop receiver but I accept this decision as fair for their early loyalty.

I’m excited on what will be the initial price of the token once distributed.

I would be more interested on what my share is, but if i had to guess the token price, i would put initial launching price as very much undervalued:

If i am trying to calculate it based on rollbit marketcap which is $478M, and with my pseudo math, marketcap of rlb: $478M divided with shfl initial circulating token supply: 71,126,984.56 = $6.7

But considering the fact that similarweb stats show me, that rollbit had 5.829M visitors in last 3 months, while shuffle had 1.314M tells me that Shuffle still has way smaller community (-77.5%) and i recon some of these miners never attended to be part of community.

So that would definitely cut from comparison marketcap and the fact it's traded on prepertual markets for as low as $1.6 throws me off a little bit. But i would predict it's trading somewhere $2.5 at the start, even though many uncertain things could affect it, like issuance rate and new token fomo.

These are of course rookie numbers next to established big casinos, and traffic might grow radically with the marketcap later on. And if delfationary tokenomics are effective enough, token price would grow despite where marketcap is going.

[panjul07]

For those who participated in the wheel challenge and managed to complete the challenge; the code to claim the reward has been distributed so open your account and you will get a notification about the code.
The reward is $39.5 as there are 316 qualified users for the challenge, it is basically a nice reward because I did not spend more than $7 to complete the challenge.
I thought there will be more than 500 eligible users since the challenge is just so easy but I was wrong.
Thanks shuffle for the nice challenge, hope to see another similar easy challenge with nice reward soon 

[Wind_FURY]

Well, I had a bad luck when I tried to participate in the $10k wheel challenge. It took almost 380 bets to give me the 49.50× multiplier 3 times. Which was completely unexpected.

I was lucky to hit the 49.50x in my first attempt lol (total surprise) but later I couldn't hit anymore although I haven't played a lot.

The faith in you must be strong, RNGesus heard you.

For those who participated in the wheel challenge and managed to complete the challenge; the code to claim the reward has been distributed so open your account and you will get a notification about the code. The reward is $39.5 as there are 316 qualified users for the challenge, it is basically a nice reward because I did not spend more than $7 to complete the challenge.

I thought there will be more than 500 eligible users since the challenge is just so easy but I was wrong.
Thanks shuffle for the nice challenge, hope to see another similar easy challenge with nice reward soon  

The actual reward there might not be the profit of $32.5 from the total amount spent of $7.00. The real reward might be from the total activity that you accumulate in the casino through those close to risk free promotions. More activity = More probability to include you in the airdrop.

I will join you in the next challenges.

[Mahdirakib]

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The easy challenge with a nice reward became costly for me. My Shuffle account has been set with unlucky streak. Initially I lost $100 when I tried to complete the challenge. And today I have lost the rewards without winning any bets. I played the dice game on 1.2× multiplier, surprisingly it gave me 5 consecutive losses. This is how my luck was after completing the challenge



$39.56 has been added to my lifetime wager with the reward today, but my luck is still pathetic there. I lost the confidence to try my luck again on this casino.

[tranthidung]

The easy challenge with a nice reward became costly for me. My Shuffle account has been set with unlucky streak. Initially I lost $100 when I tried to complete the challenge. And today I have lost the rewards without winning any bets. I played the dice game on 1.2× multiplier, surprisingly it gave me 5 consecutive losses. This is how my luck was after completing the challenge



$39.56 has been added to my lifetime wager with the reward today, but my luck is still pathetic there. I lost the confidence to try my luck again on this casino.

It is your bad day, today and previous days as well. From your description, you got bad experience with dice bets on Shuffle.com but could you share that before the bad streak, have you ever won consecutively with your bets on Shuffle.com, please?

I ask because if only take your recent bets into account, it sounds like you were super unlucky or something was wrong with their dice game which I don't think so.

It's how challenge works, chase rewards and maybe you will lose something bigger than the reward. I wish you better days and hope that you will not left Shuffle.com platform.

[Wind_FURY]

$39.56 has been added to my lifetime wager with the reward today, but my luck is still pathetic there. I lost the confidence to try my luck again on this casino.

But if you ask yourself and actually answer truthfully, is it truly the fault of a particular casino? Or are we merely fooled by randomness? Plus what if, as a product of randomness, losing like that will happen to you in all of the casinos you play, will that make you stop playing in all of those casinos?

I'm also sad that you lost $104.57, I also know that feeling. But the point is there's no such thing as "I'm lucky in this particular casino". It's about edge and probabilistic outcomes in games of chance.

[3kpk3]

But if you ask yourself and actually answer truthfully, is it truly the fault of a particular casino? Or are we merely fooled by randomness? Plus what if, as a product of randomness, losing like that will happen to you in all of the casinos you play, will that make you stop playing in all of those casinos?

I'm also sad that you lost $104.57, I also know that feeling. But the point is there's no such thing as "I'm lucky in this particular casino". It's about edge and probabilistic outcomes in games of chance.

Your points are totally valid, but I understand him completely here since certain losses make you feel like it's best to stop playing at a particular site and shift to some other site despite being fully aware of the logical stuff.

In such cases, it's best to avoid gambling completely for a while until your state of mind is better instead of shifting to other sites.

[ultrloa]

But if you ask yourself and actually answer truthfully, is it truly the fault of a particular casino? Or are we merely fooled by randomness? Plus what if, as a product of randomness, losing like that will happen to you in all of the casinos you play, will that make you stop playing in all of those casinos?

I'm also sad that you lost $104.57, I also know that feeling. But the point is there's no such thing as "I'm lucky in this particular casino". It's about edge and probabilistic outcomes in games of chance.

Your points are totally valid, but I understand him completely here since certain losses make you feel like it's best to stop playing at a particular site and shift to some other site despite being fully aware of the logical stuff.

In such cases, it's best to avoid gambling completely for a while until your state of mind is better instead of shifting to other sites.

Just a sort of burst out of emotion after encountering that disappointing losses but believe me once we are done with discouraging process and we see a lot of people enjoying on the offers they give to their players and community is fun to get involved with for sure we will go back and erase those past thoughts that we are not lucky in this casino.

But I really don't believe that there are particular casino that if we play we go lucky there and there is one that we always go lose since the chances are the same unless the other option is rigged one or a scam since for sure with this we can may get a low chance to win on their casino. If we are in state that we are not lucky then much really better to stop for a while and eliminate those negative feelings then came back when we feel relax.

[o48o]

But if you ask yourself and actually answer truthfully, is it truly the fault of a particular casino? Or are we merely fooled by randomness? Plus what if, as a product of randomness, losing like that will happen to you in all of the casinos you play, will that make you stop playing in all of those casinos?

I'm also sad that you lost $104.57, I also know that feeling. But the point is there's no such thing as "I'm lucky in this particular casino". It's about edge and probabilistic outcomes in games of chance.

Decisions in gambling are rarely logical, at least they aren't that for me. Gambling is usually based on feelings about the bet, and is full of magical thinking. The fact i understand it, isn't enough to change my behavior. Few things in gambling you can even rationalize that make sense, like counting cards, or finding good enough odds in sports. exas hold'em i don't count as gambling as i see that more as a skill game, at least in live games there's a possibility to have skill in it.

We even try to seek patterns from slots, or where ever we can to gain control and make sense of it. People change slots when they are not paying, so why not casinos? So i totally understand Mahdirakib's decision.

Obviously it's all misconception of probabilistics and we rarely can affect to outcome by doing anything, but it's our brains that want us to do something, to have control over losing. And since it's based on state of mind and something illogical, i am not judging people making illogical decisions. Most of us do them.

But we are better of understanding that there's only math behind our loss, that math is always slightly against us and sometimes there will be freakishly long losing streak against any odds. We don't see anything strange with that when we manage to have a jackpot, or long winning streaks against all odds. There are no right decisions that can make us rich. It's pure luck. And by luck i don't mean anything magical, just winning against odds.

[Mahdirakib]

~ but could you share that before the bad streak, have you ever won consecutively with your bets on Shuffle.com, please?

Before this, I won only 3 bets by placing 380 bets on the wheel game with the maximum risk (see here). While I was expecting to get the 49.50× multiplier 3 times within 200 bets maximum. And I was expecting to recover my losses today with the reward, but got the unlucky streak again. So, I haven't gotten the taste of a consecutive winning streak at Shuffle yet.

But if you ask yourself and actually answer truthfully, is it truly the fault of a particular casino? Or are we merely fooled by randomness? Plus what if, as a product of randomness, losing like that will happen to you in all of the casinos you play, will that make you stop playing in all of those casinos?

I didn’t blame Shuffle for my losses in any of my posts. I know it is based on luck which depends on the random server seed. I'm still playing in a casino where I had lost almost $10k within a few hours. So, losing only $100 isn’t the main fact here. My mind will obviously discourage me to play on a casino where I will have an unexpected losing streak from the start.

[3kpk3]

I didn’t blame Shuffle for my losses in any of my posts. I know it is based on luck which depends on the random server seed. I'm still playing in a casino where I had lost almost $10k within a few hours. So, losing only $100 isn’t the main fact here. My mind will obviously discourage me to play on a casino where I will have an unexpected losing streak from the start.

$10k in a few hours? Damn. You are a whale. I totally understand you though since I felt the same way whenever I lost my money in some sites though the amounts were lower in comparison, but I eventually returned to them after a while.

I advise taking a break from gambling completely whenever you run into big losses in order to avoid chasing them.

[Mahdirakib]

$10k in a few hours? Damn. You are a whale. I totally understand you though since I felt the same way whenever I lost my money in some sites though the amounts were lower in comparison, but I eventually returned to them after a while.

Yep, it was on 2022. And after that I always tried to limit my gambling wallet with $2k maximum. I just searched out the losing stats of that day from my mailbox (check this). After that I have lost up to $2k within a day several times in different casinos, but I didn’t cross that limit. And I always took a short break after losing up to $2k within a day.

BTW, I also have the experience of winning as the way I lost in different casino. At Shuffle.com, I got the unlucky losing streak from the beginning. The amount wasn't big which I lost there, but the losing streak was unexpected. I would be also in profit like 'panjul07' by participating in the wheel game challenge if I hadn't dealt with the unlucky streak.

[panjul07]

The actual reward there might not be the profit of $32.5 from the total amount spent of $7.00. The real reward might be from the total activity that you accumulate in the casino through those close to risk free promotions. More activity = More probability to include you in the airdrop.

My wagering activity is still so low here, I do not hope too much from the airdrop but getting few SHFL will be nice ofc.
There are so many whales at Shuffle, they will be the one who get more benefits from the airdrop and other benefits by betting at shuffle.

I would be also in profit like 'panjul07' by participating in the wheel game challenge if I hadn't dealt with the unlucky streak.

Do you know what I did when I chase for the challenge? I changed the seed after I hit the 49.5x so basically every hit was with different seed.
I know it may not work for others but I do it most of the time when I hunt for specific multiplier in in-house games.

[komisariatku]

$10k in a few hours? Damn. You are a whale. I totally understand you though since I felt the same way whenever I lost my money in some sites though the amounts were lower in comparison, but I eventually returned to them after a while.

Yep, it was on 2022. And after that I always tried to limit my gambling wallet with $2k maximum. I just searched out the losing stats of that day from my mailbox (check this). After that I have lost up to $2k within a day several times in different casinos, but I didn’t cross that limit. And I always took a short break after losing up to $2k within a day.

BTW, I also have the experience of winning as the way I lost in different casino. At Shuffle.com, I got the unlucky losing streak from the beginning. The amount wasn't big which I lost there, but the losing streak was unexpected. I would be also in profit like 'panjul07' by participating in the wheel game challenge if I hadn't dealt with the unlucky streak.

Wow, even though it's limited, your limit is still very high for me, $2k/day is crazy, bro. But it doesn't matter if that is the limit you are prepared to lose. As an active gambler, I have also experienced painful losing streaks but I do not give up and often return to the casino. But if I lose too much, I choose to stop or move to an online casino for a while

I actually have a good history winning at shuffle, especially their slot machines, despite only winning on small bets. Maybe I wasn't lucky enough in their house edge games, but I didn't lose much there.

[BABY SHOES]

Wow, even though it's limited, your limit is still very high for me, $2k/day is crazy, bro. But it doesn't matter if that is the limit you are prepared to lose. As an active gambler, I have also experienced painful losing streaks but I do not give up and often return to the casino. But if I lose too much, I choose to stop or move to an online casino for a while

I actually have a good history winning at shuffle, especially their slot machines, despite only winning on small bets. Maybe I wasn't lucky enough in their house edge games, but I didn't lose much there.

$2000/day is a lot but everyone is different in ability maybe he's limited to that because it's the maximum limit so it's very natural if he's an active gambler and it's their pleasure to do it, if the losing streak is not asked anymore, I myself experienced where the losing streak continued to occur as a result only just rested because I had run out of money. lol.

Lately the game on the slot is still unlucky, so when trying 1 or 2 loses then move to sports betting sometimes there can recover the money lost from the slot.
Now more in Sportsbook.

[komisariatku]

Wow, even though it's limited, your limit is still very high for me, $2k/day is crazy, bro. But it doesn't matter if that is the limit you are prepared to lose. As an active gambler, I have also experienced painful losing streaks but I do not give up and often return to the casino. But if I lose too much, I choose to stop or move to an online casino for a while

I actually have a good history winning at shuffle, especially their slot machines, despite only winning on small bets. Maybe I wasn't lucky enough in their house edge games, but I didn't lose much there.

$2000/day is a lot but everyone is different in ability maybe he's limited to that because it's the maximum limit so it's very natural if he's an active gambler and it's their pleasure to do it, if the losing streak is not asked anymore, I myself experienced where the losing streak continued to occur as a result only just rested because I had run out of money. lol.

Lately the game on the slot is still unlucky, so when trying 1 or 2 loses then move to sports betting sometimes there can recover the money lost from the slot.
Now more in Sportsbook.

Yeah, it depends on your abilities and financial conditions. For me, just spending $70 for one week would make my head stressed if I kept losing. I also last month had the same problem with slot machines, I wasn't getting good luck, just small wins and often losing again before I made a withdrawal.

You have good skills in sports betting so I am sure you make big profits with your bets. I also want to switch to sports betting but still don't have good analysis, maybe I need to read and watch more news about football. Do you only bet on matches that have a good chance of winning?

[tranthidung]

$2000/day is a lot but everyone is different in ability maybe he's limited to that because it's the maximum limit so it's very natural if he's an active gambler and it's their pleasure to do it, if the losing streak is not asked anymore, I myself experienced where the losing streak continued to occur as a result only just rested because I had run out of money. lol.

Self-limit bet threshold is good as it is part of Gambling Responsibly but is $2,000/ day limit is too high?

If I am a gambler who set that limit for myself, I would have $1M to do that. A simple math is $2,000/day will add up to $60,000 / month and if I am not very rich, I am not affordable to assign such big gambling budget for daily bet.

Taking a break, stop gambling after a lost streak is good because it will help a gambler to stop uncontrollable bet and revenge against losses so it is a good practice.