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[tranthidung]

Got 482 tokens which I don’t know if the amount is good or just a penny since I only reach silver rank on my VIP. I fall short on farming more because I’m still invested on my other casino account for VIP rewards.

With price above $1, your airdrop is good in value as it is about $500 airdrop.

I recalled they did not require too difficult conditions to be qualified for their airdrop so with $500 free money, it's good for you to enjoy. You can use it to bet on Shuffle or to chase hidden gems in a bull run.

By the way, do you see Shuffle token as a hidden gem and can help you to gain more money in next months?

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[Bitinity]

I did not play much at shuffle, but I'm also eligible for 800+ token based on the message from Noah. I read on the X's post that users will be eligible to claim it once the sale is complete or once the hardcap is reached. Sale will start on March 10 and end on March 12, so maybe we all can expect to claim our SHFL on March 13 or earlier if the sale goes well by reaching the hardcap before the sale end. Initial price is $1 on the sale but I don't think that I will buy some more during the sale as I have limited funds now. 800+ token is nice enough if the price will raise after the sale but I think holding it for more times will be better, expecting to see SHFL goes to the moon later. 

[Gingerbreadyes]

Can someone explain the purpose of the shfl token?   Serious question. Are they raising money by selling what ultimately amounts to crypto poker chips?  Or is there some other beneficial use? Is this a repeat of the $FUN token for crypto casinosthat saw its investors lose 99% of its value bc it had no purpose, or will the token have some intrinsic value or functional purpose aside from using it as a “crypto poker chip”  Given all the enthusiasm I’m trying to find out more info.

[Wind_FURY]

Got 482 tokens which I don’t know if the amount is good or just a penny since I only reach silver rank on my VIP. I fall short on farming more because I’m still invested on my other casino account for VIP rewards.

With price above $1, your airdrop is good in value as it is about $500 airdrop.

I recalled they did not require too difficult conditions to be qualified for their airdrop so with $500 free money, it's good for you to enjoy. You can use it to bet on Shuffle or to chase hidden gems in a bull run.

By the way, do you see Shuffle token as a hidden gem and can help you to gain more money in next months?

After my pleb "DYOR", probability would say that the market value of new tokens minted during a bull market would absolutely gain more market value as it goes further into the bull cycle. But if the token doesn't surge in market value during a bull market, then probably there's currently not enough interest although that could change.

I believe with the right incentive structure, the token's fair market value will be priced high by the market in general. Plus the social layer/community should be considered by the team to be as important as the casino. The people should like HODLing the token because they themselves feel valued by the team. But how to make them they feel more valued? - Through Incentives.

[dimonstration]

Got 482 tokens which I don’t know if the amount is good or just a penny since I only reach silver rank on my VIP. I fall short on farming more because I’m still invested on my other casino account for VIP rewards.

With price above $1, your airdrop is good in value as it is about $500 airdrop.

I recalled they did not require too difficult conditions to be qualified for their airdrop so with $500 free money, it's good for you to enjoy. You can use it to bet on Shuffle or to chase hidden gems in a bull run.

Yeah, 500$ for an airdrop while I’m in profit on this casino is really a good reward. I wish I just discover this casino first then coins.game which I wager most of the time. I only play on shuffle using my excess money which is why I only have few wager here. I’m not expecting to receive this amount for my wager volume contributed on this casino.

By the way, do you see Shuffle token as a hidden gem and can help you to gain more money in next months?

I think so, Shuffle is the only casino that has a token with liquidity provider backing them. This makes their token have more liquidity to absorb sell off from airdrop receiver without resulting to huge price impact. I hope to earn more of this token on the next round of airdrop probably on more wagering requirements.

[Mahdirakib]

I have wagered around $2k only on Shuffle until now, and I haven't received any SHFL tokens from the airdrop. I couldn't find out the requirement to be eligible for the SHFL airdrop.

Or is there some other beneficial use? Is this a repeat of the $FUN token for crypto casinosthat saw its investors lose 99% of its value bc it had no purpose,

FUN tokens came with some beneficial features for the users (E.g. Freebitco premium membership), still they failed to recover it's previous price. Shuffle team has already described about the utility of SHFL token, you may check them here: Token Utility

There will be some exclusive benefits for the VIP users. And they will burn the tokens occasionally by using a part of their revenue. Anyway, SHFL tokens price won't fluctuate highly like the FUN token.

[o48o]

Can someone explain the purpose of the shfl token?   Serious question. Are they raising money by selling what ultimately amounts to crypto poker chips?  Or is there some other beneficial use? Is this a repeat of the $FUN token for crypto casinosthat saw its investors lose 99% of its value bc it had no purpose, or will the token have some intrinsic value or functional purpose aside from using it as a “crypto poker chip”  Given all the enthusiasm I’m trying to find out more info.

I am assuming you haven't read shfl whitepaper yet?

If that was too long or complex, it's basically reward token for using the casino, and 15% of shuffle revenues are weekly used to buyback and burn SHFL tokens directly from open market. So it will definitely add some value to the token, as casino itself is providing buy pressure.

Token holders will get some vip perks and there will be more utility for it in the future, we don't know what all that is yet though. And You can also use it to wager in the casino, which is handy but nothing special.

As in comparison $fun token didn't have any kind of deflationary tokenomics if i recall correctly.

[legendmina1]

Hey guys, I just want to post my experience with this casino/sportsbook. The first couple of days my experience playing the sportsbook was smooth! nearly instant deposits and withdrawals, and the betting experience was very nice.

2 days in, I am a couple of hundred dollars up with less than $1000 total wagered and now they disabled my withdrawal option, betting option and want me to provide KYC to even withdraw my money just $100 balance! I never saw that before with my 5 years+ gambling on casinos. 

I do not have any bonuses enabled. I tried to complain in the chat  and I got muted for 20 days. Maybe I was a little rude with my rant for them asking KYC but 20 days really? Luckily I did not deposit thousands.

https://prnt.sc/rBkIf1xLK-8q

I'll edit my reply, if this get's resolved.

[FelixH]

Hello all

My name is Felix from Germany and I would like to express my displeasure of what is going on with my Shuffle account.
Let me explain what is going on. I opened an account on 27th January and wagered $57,634 ever since. This was over $50,000 in casino (keno, plinko and some other games) and also for about $6300 in sports bets (just 4 NBA bets and 1 soccer test bet on Barcelona). See screenshot of my sports bets here:
https://i.ibb.co/Zdm7B89/Shuffle-Sports-bets.png
And of my overall wagers here: https://i.ibb.co/rchHTV1/Shuffle-SCREEN-Total-Wagered-FEB-26.png
My original deposit was 100mbtc and my current balance is 177mbtc. See here: https://i.ibb.co/YTw2ZMK/Shuffle-SCREEN-26-FEB.png
When I wanted to request a withdrawal it was rejected however and I was asked to complete KYC. I submitted the documents they asked from my and you can see it was accepted:
https://i.ibb.co/R00bkxZ/Shuffle-Verification.png
Then they went on to ask me all kinds of questions in the chat. They asked if I had already another account and I said no. Then they went on to say that they had noticed there was another account which was from the same region. Then I admitted that I indeed have a friend who lives about 15km away from me (thus same region and some similarities in the IP-address) and this friend initially recommended Shuffle to me. Me and some friends have an app group in which we discuss all kinds of private things and from time to time recommend casinos/sportsbooks who still accept German customers (cause many these days don't accept Germans anymore). After his recommendation I checked Bitcointalk forum and after reading good comments I decided to join a few days later. Shuffle said they find it suspicious that I joined a few days after my friend had his last withdrawal but it's only logical that people only recommend sites after they successfully received their funds.
The problem however is that simply because of this Shuffle refuse to let me request a payout. Shuffle states that because my IP is from same region and I quote "the betting pattern has similarities with another user" I have apparently violated their terms in such a way that I am not only not getting my winnings, but not even my deposit also!
I find this very very unfair. Literally the only thing I have in common with my friend is that we both live in the same region and we love the same games (mostly keno and plinko and NBA). But let's be honest, how many friends are there who share their favourite games and therefore have a similarity in what they play? We have not shared a wallet (we both have our own finances), we have not shared a laptop and we have not shared an IP-address (yes, they have similarities because we live in the same region but they are not the same). And also, we did not place any of the same bets....it's the same sport (NBA) we placed some bets on but not the same games and not the same bets! Furthermore I have also never used a VPN or taken any deposit bonuses.
Shuffle claims that I gained an unfair advantage by opening my account because they think I am working together with my friend and that I opened a second account to circumvent betting limits. Now, if we used the same wallet to deposit, the same laptop to play, the same IP to log in from I would somehow understand their stance, but nothing of this all is the case (and these are all FACTS, simple to check).
But even IF (not saying I agree but just playing devil's advocate here) they are true in this assumption, then why did they not want to pay back my deposit and my casino winnings even? If they cancel all my sports bets in retrospect I would still have around 111 mbtc balance left, which belongs to me even in the worst case scenario I think. Even though I find it very harsh if they are going to punish me for my friend's betting history, I am willing to accept receiving just 111mbtc as a resolution because this situation has been spoiling my mood for the past 6 weeks now and it's stressing me out. 100+ mbtc is a LOT of money for me and I need it.

The strange thing is, my account is still open and I can still bet, just not withdraw. Whenever I try to withdraw I get a message saying it's disabled. See here: https://i.ibb.co/LnqH7xY/Shuffle-withdrawal-restricted.png

So, I am really amazed by this decision of Shuffle and I would like to ask Noah Dummett (ndumm user in this forum) to have a second opinion look at this decision and if he feels this outcome is really too harsh, then reconsider it please. Noah, I have sent you my username per PM.
I am not going to open a scam accusation topic yet because my account is still open and active and funds have not really been confiscated yet, but if this will happen then I will not just accept this and I will also contact a lawyer in Curacao for it. But ofcourse, I will give Shuffle the chance to solve it right here and this also has my preference.

If casinos are going to confiscate balances simply because of assumptions and not facts, then this is really the wrong path to go on for Shuffle.
And btw, if they still think me and my friend are the exact same person and they believe my ID is not real, then I will gladly do an extensive verification with camera and all, no problem.

Hope to hear from you soon Shuffle!

Kind regards, Felix
 

[legendmina1]

Hello all

My name is Felix from Germany and I would like to express my displeasure of what is going on with my Shuffle account.
Let me explain what is going on. I opened an account on 27th January and wagered $57,634 ever since. This was over $50,000 in casino (keno, plinko and some other games) and also for about $6300 in sports bets (just 4 NBA bets and 1 soccer test bet on Barcelona). See screenshot of my sports bets here:
https://i.ibb.co/Zdm7B89/Shuffle-Sports-bets.png
And of my overall wagers here: https://i.ibb.co/rchHTV1/Shuffle-SCREEN-Total-Wagered-FEB-26.png
My original deposit was 100mbtc and my current balance is 177mbtc. See here: https://i.ibb.co/YTw2ZMK/Shuffle-SCREEN-26-FEB.png
When I wanted to request a withdrawal it was rejected however and I was asked to complete KYC. I submitted the documents they asked from my and you can see it was accepted:
https://i.ibb.co/R00bkxZ/Shuffle-Verification.png
Then they went on to ask me all kinds of questions in the chat. They asked if I had already another account and I said no. Then they went on to say that they had noticed there was another account which was from the same region. Then I admitted that I indeed have a friend who lives about 15km away from me (thus same region and some similarities in the IP-address) and this friend initially recommended Shuffle to me. Me and some friends have an app group in which we discuss all kinds of private things and from time to time recommend casinos/sportsbooks who still accept German customers (cause many these days don't accept Germans anymore). After his recommendation I checked Bitcointalk forum and after reading good comments I decided to join a few days later. Shuffle said they find it suspicious that I joined a few days after my friend had his last withdrawal but it's only logical that people only recommend sites after they successfully received their funds.
The problem however is that simply because of this Shuffle refuse to let me request a payout. Shuffle states that because my IP is from same region and I quote "the betting pattern has similarities with another user" I have apparently violated their terms in such a way that I am not only not getting my winnings, but not even my deposit also!
I find this very very unfair. Literally the only thing I have in common with my friend is that we both live in the same region and we love the same games (mostly keno and plinko and NBA). But let's be honest, how many friends are there who share their favourite games and therefore have a similarity in what they play? We have not shared a wallet (we both have our own finances), we have not shared a laptop and we have not shared an IP-address (yes, they have similarities because we live in the same region but they are not the same). And also, we did not place any of the same bets....it's the same sport (NBA) we placed some bets on but not the same games and not the same bets! Furthermore I have also never used a VPN or taken any deposit bonuses.
Shuffle claims that I gained an unfair advantage by opening my account because they think I am working together with my friend and that I opened a second account to circumvent betting limits. Now, if we used the same wallet to deposit, the same laptop to play, the same IP to log in from I would somehow understand their stance, but nothing of this all is the case (and these are all FACTS, simple to check).
But even IF (not saying I agree but just playing devil's advocate here) they are true in this assumption, then why did they not want to pay back my deposit and my casino winnings even? If they cancel all my sports bets in retrospect I would still have around 111 mbtc balance left, which belongs to me even in the worst case scenario I think. Even though I find it very harsh if they are going to punish me for my friend's betting history, I am willing to accept receiving just 111mbtc as a resolution because this situation has been spoiling my mood for the past 6 weeks now and it's stressing me out. 100+ mbtc is a LOT of money for me and I need it.

The strange thing is, my account is still open and I can still bet, just not withdraw. Whenever I try to withdraw I get a message saying it's disabled. See here: https://i.ibb.co/LnqH7xY/Shuffle-withdrawal-restricted.png

So, I am really amazed by this decision of Shuffle and I would like to ask Noah Dummett (ndumm user in this forum) to have a second opinion look at this decision and if he feels this outcome is really too harsh, then reconsider it please. Noah, I have sent you my username per PM.
I am not going to open a scam accusation topic yet because my account is still open and active and funds have not really been confiscated yet, but if this will happen then I will not just accept this and I will also contact a lawyer in Curacao for it. But ofcourse, I will give Shuffle the chance to solve it right here and this also has my preference.

If casinos are going to confiscate balances simply because of assumptions and not facts, then this is really the wrong path to go on for Shuffle.
And btw, if they still think me and my friend are the exact same person and they believe my ID is not real, then I will gladly do an extensive verification with camera and all, no problem.

Hope to hear from you soon Shuffle!

Kind regards, Felix
 

That is scary to hear even when you are providing KYC they are refusing to pay out lol! I was looking at trust pilot reviews and I came across this https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/655a1873fbd4bd4b20c90cfd which looks really similar to your case! This is very worrying signs. Personally for my case even with less than $1000 total wager they are enforcing KYC and holding my funds hostage.

6 weeks? you are a very patient man.

[Eternad]

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Does your “friend” bet on same matches as yours but on opposite side? Because there’s no problem if you both on same matches on same exact pick. But if you’re always have a contradicting bet then this will surely raise a suspicion for arbitrage betting which is not allowed in the casino because you can freely get rakeback and other passive reward such as airdrop and lvl up reward without losing anything.

But at least you should recover your initial deposit unless the other account successfully manage to withdraw the balance which cover your initial deposit. This story of yours about multiple account that involves family, friends and other relatives is the common reason of those players caught doin arbitrage bet and different kind of abuse.

[Little Mouse]

Does your “friend” bet on same matches as yours but on opposite side? Because there’s no problem if you both on same matches on same exact pick. But if you’re always have a contradicting bet then this will surely raise a suspicion for arbitrage betting which is not allowed in the casino because you can freely get rakeback and other passive reward such as airdrop and lvl up reward without losing anything.

But at least you should recover your initial deposit unless the other account successfully manage to withdraw the balance which cover your initial deposit. This story of yours about multiple account that involves family, friends and other relatives is the common reason of those players caught doin arbitrage bet and different kind of abuse.

FelixH is a liar. He lied to me in telegram. Before reaching me in telegram from his Felix account, he reached me from his original account. I got his message notification in telegram. As I was busy, I didn't check at that time. When Felix reached me, surprisingly the previous message from his original account was deleted.
This guy has alt account bitcointalk (his main account who has problem with almost all the casinos). I don't want to mention who I'm talking about. I had tried my best to help him in another case but I'm now getting convinced that he is an abuser as he didn't bother to lie when he reached me in telegram.

[FelixH]

Does your “friend” bet on same matches as yours but on opposite side? Because there’s no problem if you both on same matches on same exact pick. But if you’re always have a contradicting bet then this will surely raise a suspicion for arbitrage betting which is not allowed in the casino because you can freely get rakeback and other passive reward such as airdrop and lvl up reward without losing anything.

But at least you should recover your initial deposit unless the other account successfully manage to withdraw the balance which cover your initial deposit. This story of yours about multiple account that involves family, friends and other relatives is the common reason of those players caught doin arbitrage bet and different kind of abuse.

FelixH is a liar. He lied to me in telegram. Before reaching me in telegram from his Felix account, he reached me from his original account. I got his message notification in telegram. As I was busy, I didn't check at that time. When Felix reached me, surprisingly the previous message from his original account was deleted.
This guy has alt account bitcointalk (his main account who has problem with almost all the casinos). I don't want to mention who I'm talking about. I had tried my best to help him in another case but I'm now getting convinced that he is an abuser as he didn't bother to lie when he reached me in telegram.

What on earth has lying to do with that?
Yes, I got help from another user as I wanted to contact you. He said he initially sent you a message and then I said it's better if I talk to you myself and therefore he deleted his message to you, what is so strange about that?
That has nothing to do with my issue with Shuffle.

[FelixH]

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Does your “friend” bet on same matches as yours but on opposite side? Because there’s no problem if you both on same matches on same exact pick. But if you’re always have a contradicting bet then this will surely raise a suspicion for arbitrage betting which is not allowed in the casino because you can freely get rakeback and other passive reward such as airdrop and lvl up reward without losing anything.

But at least you should recover your initial deposit unless the other account successfully manage to withdraw the balance which cover your initial deposit. This story of yours about multiple account that involves family, friends and other relatives is the common reason of those players caught doin arbitrage bet and different kind of abuse.

No, my friend never even bet on any same game, he is not even playing on Shuffle anymore. Also myself I did not do arbitrage at all.
All I did was play casino games (what can be wrong about that, it's even dumb to play those games in the long run but I liked it just for fun) and some NBA sports bets. I guess they did not like that I won more than I lost. And therefore they conveniently assume I must be the same person as my friend. To confiscate my winnings is extremely rough and very doubtful act, but to even confiscate my deposit it simply theft.

[Little Mouse]

He said he initially sent you a message and then I said it's better if I talk to you myself and therefore he deleted his message to you, what is so strange about that?

Hmm sound like a nice story but you know what? I'm not going to buy your fake story anymore.

[Haunebu]

2 days in, I am a couple of hundred dollars up with less than $1000 total wagered and now they disabled my withdrawal option, betting option and want me to provide KYC to even withdraw my money just $100 balance! I never saw that before with my 5 years+ gambling on casinos.  

I do not have any bonuses enabled. I tried to complain in the chat  and I got muted for 20 days. Maybe I was a little rude with my rant for them asking KYC but 20 days really? Luckily I did not deposit thousands.

Your case is bizarre. I have heard of people wagering thousands of dollars without facing any issues at Shuffle which is why I have no idea why they chose to disable your withdrawals completely.

You should have provided your KYC though since it's pretty much mandatory at different stages in literally every crypto gambling site(Excluding decentralised ones) these days.

[dimonstration]

2 days in, I am a couple of hundred dollars up with less than $1000 total wagered and now they disabled my withdrawal option, betting option and want me to provide KYC to even withdraw my money just $100 balance! I never saw that before with my 5 years+ gambling on casinos.  

I do not have any bonuses enabled. I tried to complain in the chat  and I got muted for 20 days. Maybe I was a little rude with my rant for them asking KYC but 20 days really? Luckily I did not deposit thousands.

Your case is bizarre. I have heard of people wagering thousands of dollars without facing any issues at Shuffle which is why I have no idea why they chose to disable your withdrawals completely.

You should have provided your KYC though since it's pretty much mandatory at different stages in literally every crypto gambling site(Excluding decentralised ones) these days.

True that, I wagered more than 50k here with a bankroll average of 2000$ without encountering any issue. I’m playing regularly on blackjack and casual slot/sportsbook. I’m still in the profit side around 1000$+ here without encountering any issue such as KYC or unable to withdraw.

I always notice that most of the users that have problem on any casino play sports betting and most of the time involves multiple account or arbitrage betting. Seems like they are using same pattern of strategy to attain almost surebet since this is always the case in every casino.

[Wind_FURY]

2 days in, I am a couple of hundred dollars up with less than $1000 total wagered and now they disabled my withdrawal option, betting option and want me to provide KYC to even withdraw my money just $100 balance! I never saw that before with my 5 years+ gambling on casinos.  

I do not have any bonuses enabled. I tried to complain in the chat  and I got muted for 20 days. Maybe I was a little rude with my rant for them asking KYC but 20 days really? Luckily I did not deposit thousands.

Your case is bizarre. I have heard of people wagering thousands of dollars without facing any issues at Shuffle which is why I have no idea why they chose to disable your withdrawals completely.

You should have provided your KYC though since it's pretty much mandatory at different stages in literally every crypto gambling site(Excluding decentralised ones) these days.

True that, I wagered more than 50k here with a bankroll average of 2000$ without encountering any issue. I’m playing regularly on blackjack and casual slot/sportsbook. I’m still in the profit side around 1000$+ here without encountering any issue such as KYC or unable to withdraw.

I always notice that most of the users that have problem on any casino play sports betting and most of the time involves multiple account or arbitrage betting. Seems like they are using same pattern of strategy to attain almost surebet since this is always the case in every casino.

Arbitrage requires the user to have multiple accounts, BUT multiple accounts that are registered in different sports-betting services. I believe those people who get banned are either lazy in looking for arbing opportunities across different services, or they're probably newbies who don't take the necessary steps not to get caught and marked as an "arber".

But sometimes when a newbie account posts an "issue" in BitcoinTalk, doubtful if it's either true or if it's truly a newbie. The verification of the truth in their posts should depend on them.

[legendmina1]

2 days in, I am a couple of hundred dollars up with less than $1000 total wagered and now they disabled my withdrawal option, betting option and want me to provide KYC to even withdraw my money just $100 balance! I never saw that before with my 5 years+ gambling on casinos.  

I do not have any bonuses enabled. I tried to complain in the chat  and I got muted for 20 days. Maybe I was a little rude with my rant for them asking KYC but 20 days really? Luckily I did not deposit thousands.

Your case is bizarre. I have heard of people wagering thousands of dollars without facing any issues at Shuffle which is why I have no idea why they chose to disable your withdrawals completely.

You should have provided your KYC though since it's pretty much mandatory at different stages in literally every crypto gambling site(Excluding decentralised ones) these days.

True that, I wagered more than 50k here with a bankroll average of 2000$ without encountering any issue. I’m playing regularly on blackjack and casual slot/sportsbook. I’m still in the profit side around 1000$+ here without encountering any issue such as KYC or unable to withdraw.

I always notice that most of the users that have problem on any casino play sports betting and most of the time involves multiple account or arbitrage betting. Seems like they are using same pattern of strategy to attain almost surebet since this is always the case in every casino.

Thanks, for your comment. I swear on my life that this is my only account on Shuffle and I am using home IP with no VPN which is what makes no sense to me why they will limit me like that. My only suspicion its because of my geographical location, but even then if that's the case they should refuse customers from that country.

If you want I can post my bet history here, total bets is just under $1000 and all bets are sportsbook in tennis,soccer bets.

I have sent a message to Shuffle support team letting know my report in bitcointalk. trustpilot and 0 response. Idc anymore, I was hoping this will compete with RLB and wanted to give it a try before investing in the upcoming token sale( which already live now)

[Wind_FURY]

My only suspicion its because of my geographical location, but even then if that's the case they should refuse customers from that country.

Although you're right, BUT if you're going to deposit real money, it's actually also your responsibility to read the terms of service of the casino and check if the region where you currently live is prohibited. I know it's too long to read, but you can simply press CTRL-F then "Your Country" and do it in all of the pages of the terms.

I have sent a message to Shuffle support team letting know my report in bitcointalk. trustpilot and 0 response. Idc anymore, I was hoping this will compete with RLB and wanted to give it a try before investing in the upcoming token sale( which already live now)

The airdrop is probably another reason why Shuffle is extra rigorous on security, as a Sybil Protection mechanism.