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September 08, 2023, 09:09:10 AM Last edit: September 08, 2023, 10:11:09 AM by Zoomic |
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I'm offended by your suggestion. Now you deserve a 7 day ban ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) LOL... I think I am offended by the way you posted on my thread. You deserve a signature ban.
You should spend 2.5 minutes to listen to this guy: the only proper response to someone who says: "I'm offended!" is: "I don't care!". I listened, although it is comic but it taught alot of lessons and it's about reality. You would want me to banned if I told you “can your dick reach your ass?, then go fuck your self”
Basically go fuck yourself.
I now understand that using these words is so nice and natural to many ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Look how you arranged these words in a very f*cked way. I now see why many people don't want to be censored. People catch fun doing this, and I only pity the weak ones behind the screen. I know the protracted drama you're referring to, and there was a lot more to it than just that accusation, and in fact if it was only that the pedophile accusation got slung I don't think the target member would have reacted the same way.
Obviously there was a lot more to it. I followed up the thread until I was lost in words, feelings and some touches of betrayal, threats and lots more. One has to bow and exit the forum.
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I think I am offended by the way you posted on my thread. I don't care! ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) You should spend 2.5 minutes to listen to this guy: the only proper response to someone who says: "I'm offended!" is: "I don't care!". I listed, although it is comic but it taught alot of lessons and it's aboit reality. It's kinda sad though when common sense turns into comedy.
Here's another 9 minutes worth of your time: Rowan Atkinson on free speech. For me, the best way to increase society's resistance to insulting or offensive speech is to allow a lot more of it. As with childhood diseases, you can better resist those germs to which you have been exposed. We need to build our immunity to taking offence, so that we can deal with the issues that perfectly justified criticism can raise. Our priority should be to deal with the message, not the messenger.
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September 08, 2023, 09:19:59 AM |
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You would want me to banned if I told you “can your dick reach your ass?, then go fuck your self”
Basically go fuck yourself.
I now understand that using these words is so nice and natural to many ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Look how you arranged these words in a very f*cked way. I now see why many people don't want to be censored. People catch fun doing this, and I only pity the weak ones behind the screen. You should not pity for anyone because no one has taken bath with milk water. Everyone to some extent use those words and if someone says that he/she has never used such words in his/her life then that person is the worst pathological liar. I don't think that censoring those words will make any sense as they aren't spoken all the time and are spoken rarely when someone really wants to hear those. In this case you wanted to hear that how they sound and you heard it the right way. That's called freedom of speech and you have seen the example yourself so I don't really need to say anything else about it. Just chill, and allow the forum to be the way it is because putting your hand on fire won't stop the fire but will burn your own hand.
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September 08, 2023, 09:49:28 AM |
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One has to bow and exit the forum.
It's impossible to make a club for each and every, every club has its rules and you accept them and stay or decline them and leave. Of course you can try to change rules, but it will limit someone else's opportunities anyway. When you say that I can't name the Celebes crested macaque as a black monkey I'm not sure why. If there are some people who want to hurt you with words and you are offended with some which could be prohibited, they'll use some other. Who wants to offend will offend, who wants to be offended will be offended. It is so easy to find something new just to offend someone. You know that usually some euthemisms become offencive in a time because intentions to offend can be masquerated under any words. To be offended is a choice. To ignore offenders on some anonymous forum in Internet is also a choice. Instead of leaving the forum you can just ignore a user you don't like.
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Here's another 9 minutes worth of your time: Rowan Atkinson on free speech. For me, the best way to increase society's resistance to insulting or offensive speech is to allow a lot more of it. As with childhood diseases, you can better resist those germs to which you have been exposed. We need to build our immunity to taking offence, so that we can deal with the issues that perfectly justified criticism can raise. Our priority should be to deal with the message, not the messenger. It is actually 9 mins worth of my time. Thanks for sharing. I never knew that the famous Mr bean who acts without speaking can be so fluent in speaking. He made so much sense and I quote him Freedom of speech can only be in danger if the consequences of the speech is abolished . He classified freedom of speech as the second most important thing to man after food to mouth. If free speech is as important as he described, it needs not be toyed with.
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September 08, 2023, 10:43:19 AM |
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If free speech is as important as he described, it needs not be toyed with. Theymos understood that years before I did. I'm such a strong advocate of free speech because once it's gone, it won't come back. People who are used to it don't realize how important it is, and often advocate for other people to get less freedom. The thing is: you can't have freedoms without someone else having it too.
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Again an offense issue, I've also seen a thread that has an articulation on this before, but I can't remember where it was. LOL It's funny to feel offended in this free and anonymous forum, it's simply that if someone loses an argument then he or she will slander someone else or give a bad statement to attack. When you lose in a debate, finah becomes a tool for the loser. Socrates Even if I feel offended by something someone else said here, the "ignore" feature will be very useful.
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I now understand that using these words is so nice and natural to many ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Look how you arranged these words in a very f*cked way. I now see why many people don't want to be censored. People catch fun doing this, and I only pity the weak ones behind the screen. Lol there are not nice words and there nothing nice about using them but we do because they just the way we like it. No need to pity anyone here, I believe everyone here is old enough to use the internet and if they can handle themselves in the real world, they can definitely take a few harsh words from a bunch of strangers on the internet. It’s deeper than you think, censorship is control and we don’t want that there, sure it starts with a little censorship before we know we will know if we may have a full blown censored forum. There are already accusations of DT misusing their power, and tagging others for revenge or personal vandeta.
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This has been one of the most frequently asked questions on my local forum over the years. Free speech is not something people are used to in my country. They have always been accustomed to censorship by an authority, or they have practiced self-censorship on other platforms. It's very difficult for people to get used to the environment here. Which words are foul and the limits of trolling are completely subjective. I don't think it would be beneficial to limit them as forum management. This forum has helped me a lot in terms of protecting free speech. If I don't swear, it's not because I can't, it's because I don't want to. But it's nice to know that I have the freedom to swear. It would be sad to see this place turn into Facebook, which starts censoring everything.
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If I want to reply to someone's post and call them a fucking idiot, that is my right. You have the right to ignore me or scroll past my reply. Let's not be part of the cancel culture here. It's not that complicated and we don't need snowflakes trying to change something that doesn't need changed.
One of the good qualities of this community is freedom of speech. People are allowed to say their views without any form of intimidation. Firstly, since we are from different locations and cultures, what you think is an insult might not be the case in another country. I have read that insults are not against the forum rules, members are allowed to speak freely. Insults or foul language are not promoted in the forum but one needs to learn how to ignore and endure the insults. Controlling the language on the forum will affect the freedom of speech which might discourage people from engaging in discussions. I have identified some members that I wouldn't engage in any discussion with them because I don't like their approach. Maybe some other members might have put me on ignore because my expression might have offended them. The beauty of freedom of speech is that everybody has a level playing ground that is void of censorship.
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If I want to reply to someone's post and call them a fucking idiot, that is my right. You have the right to ignore me or scroll past my reply. Let's not be part of the cancel culture here. It's not that complicated and we don't need snowflakes trying to change something that doesn't need changed.
One of the good qualities of this community is freedom of speech. People are allowed to say their views without any form of intimidation. Firstly, since we are from different locations and cultures, what you think is an insult might not be the case in another country. I have read that insults are not against the forum rules, members are allowed to speak freely. Insults or foul language are not promoted in the forum but one needs to learn how to ignore and endure the insults. Controlling the language on the forum will affect the freedom of speech which might discourage people from engaging in discussions. I have identified some members that I wouldn't engage in any discussion with them because I don't like their approach. Maybe some other members might have put me on ignore because my expression might have offended them. The beauty of freedom of speech is that everybody has a level playing ground that is void of censorship. Free speech 🎤 allows more conversations which allows more posts which allows more signature income. A lot of places on the internet allow you to make some money. youtube allows you to earnest based on views but restricts what you can say. So you need to act in such a way that people will view what you are posting. As far as I know this forum is the only place that allows you to sign a signature and pay you. So by allowing free speech it encourages more posts. If this was a typical forum and I wrote: fuck fuck fuck fuck I would be censored and the post deleted. But if we agree the fuck word means ban what is next? Does this sentence , Doge is better than Btc. = a ban now for me. I earned more profit on doge than btc. Will that statement of fact for me get me banned? At op don’t go fuck yourself. I wrote my older post to be tongue in cheek with a bit of humor. I actually have decide to do a complete 180 on my dislike of signatures and of mixer’s in particular because you wrote this thread up. I will use the funds to support talk img for the next few months. Which will help the entire website all because you wrote this thread up.
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I actually have decide to do a complete 180 on my dislike of signatures and of mixer’s in particular because you wrote this thread up.
Will it be correct to say that my post made you start wearing signature? If yes, that's an honour to me and I will put it in my text space. Waiting for your confirmation ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I actually have decide to do a complete 180 on my dislike of signatures and of mixer’s in particular because you wrote this thread up.
Will it be correct to say that my post made you start wearing signature? If yes, that's an honour to me and I will put it in my text space. Waiting for your confirmation ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Yes . I was supporting talk-img out of pocket because I believe the forum needs a good image service. I vacillated back and forth about signatures but frankly bitcointalk is unique in its signature campaigns which give anyone with decent content a chance to earn. Your thread pushed me into the fuck it I will do a new signature and raise funds for talk img. btw I sent you merits.
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Yes . I was supporting talk-img out of pocket because I believe the forum needs a good image service.
After imgur failed the forum, I saw the need for a good image hosting service and talk-img has filled the gap excellently. Your thread pushed me into the fuck it I will do a new signature and raise funds for talk img.
![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This is great. You are such a philanthropist. But the fucking decision you made will be a relief to the burden of philantropism and still set you aside as a distinguished member of this forum. btw I sent you merits.
Yes, I recieved with joy and it has aided my journey to snr member. I appreciate you.
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Yes . I was supporting talk-img out of pocket because I believe the forum needs a good image service.
After imgur failed the forum, I saw the need for a good image hosting service and talk-img has filled the gap excellently. Your thread pushed me into the fuck it I will do a new signature and raise funds for talk img.
![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This is great. You are such a philanthropist. But the fucking decision you made will be a relief to the burden of philantropism and still set you aside as a distinguished member of this forum. btw I sent you merits.
Yes, I recieved with joy and it has aided my journey to snr member. I appreciate you. and now you can see why saying fuck this or that is not so terrible. My problem of being a bit loose with f-bombs was or is: 13 years of school in Brooklyn New York City and 5 years in the USA Navy. The curse words simply became another word to me not much different than any other. But if you are raised in other places in the world curses are more hurtful and far less used. I will also attempt to effort a bit cleaner language and maybe stretch my wordsmith technique just a bit more varied. Thanks for a good thread.
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I don't know how's it gonna work because you can have censorship on some foul words even if you think that way but you can't say which word any other person will think of as bad because coming from a different backgrounds and it doesn't work for me as well.As already pointed out you have ignore option and there's no limit on how many users you want not to see so why have such childish behavior like putting censor to some words?This is a open forum and you have your choices sorted but getting offended is normal or disagreement on some points but don't go that way I would say.
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arhipova
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September 13, 2023, 06:56:58 AM |
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It would be sad to see this place turn into Facebook, which starts censoring everything.
Isn't their legal binding for Facebook to do this ? Because, if they do not censor foul words, images or videos and it is done on large scale, governments in some countries may take action against them. They are too large to ignore this. We cannot compare this forum to Facebook in this regard.
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September 15, 2023, 07:15:05 PM |
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I searched some old threads and even recent and found alot of trolls. Sometimes the trolling goes extreme. I have read where a big user of this forum was called a pedophile.[..]
Do you have any problem with that??! How about if the admin filter some keywords(foul words), such that when you use them, you will be handed ban. Such as 7days ban, few days signature ban, read only mode etc. This will promote peaceful co-existence and curtail to the barest minimum any form of bullying, unfriendliness, acrimony or as the case may be.
This would only get your fat ass whopped badly - you ain't gonna Know when you put your feet in your own trap; the pains are often, so fucking excruciating right?? Uhmm, did I just swear??? I think I'mma get banned for it ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Look, you're not even helping issues..yeah? Cus if this is enacted, the forum ain't gonna be free by the least, possible means... Cus you ain't gonna be outta the dungeon for days just for the fact that you overemphasized this futile point - that could as well be termed as "trolling" Secondly - matter of fact, I've seen similar topics to yours already so isn't this a spam?? You better watch your back fat boy... Things aren't exactly as the way You seem to see 'em. Ps: you gotta be thick skinned... Peeps in here ain't gonna be Afraid of you - anyone would rather say shit to your face,..unless you can sue them in real life, then there's nothing you can do about it..... Sandra 🧑🦰
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