Rollbit - be aware, i was lucky

[Haunebu]

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

I disagree. Why do you think so many casinos limit or outright ban long-term punters? It's because they are a business and they cannot afford to keep them around which makes sense if you think about it.

There are very few gambling sites out there that actually allow long-term winners to continue playing(Pinnacle etc).

[Wind_FURY]

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

I disagree. Why do you think so many casinos limit or outright ban long-term punters? It's because they are a business and they cannot afford to keep them around which makes sense if you think about it.

There are very few gambling sites out there that actually allow long-term winners to continue playing(Pinnacle etc).

They ban all long-term punters? If that was actually true, then all long-term BlackJack players who actually has an edge on the game would have been banned. It's because they are a business that they also need to protect their reputation too, and not be that "notorious" Casino known for banning long-term players who actually gamble.

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

I made placed 10-20 bets 1.01, +20 bets 1.1, and the rest is casino..

OK, but that's still probably what caused the problem.

[NewCryptocasinos]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

Thanks for your story. I didn't know they send out "unexpected bonuses"
I think that is very bad and goes against responsible gambling.

[FatFork]

But as casino side, They view this as unprofitable and abused to their promotion that’s why they ban such user after withdrawing the funds. Not all user in the casino is doing this so they just banning someone that doing it instead of updating the ToS just for the sake of controlling minimal number of user that doing this thing.

Remember, that there’s no money loss here. The OP got his money including the reward. I wonder how can he be mad and accuse a casino scam after he got his 100% balance.

No money loss, is not the point to justify a wrong or a trap to use it as a bait for players to ban their account. I don't know if the OP is mad or not, how strong his feeling about it. But what I am saying is it's a good excuse for Rollbit to use this shady promo and banning many accounts.

I agree with this. And I'm not talking about this specific case because I can't know for sure if this is actually the reason that caused the player to be banned or if there is something else that we don't know about. But generally, if a casino allows betting at certain odds or certain methods to clear bonuses and meet wagering requirements, then they can't use that as an excuse to restrict players. This should be defined in the bonus terms, or even better, regulated by software on the platform itself so that the player cannot even use such methods accidentally. If a player has not broken any defined rules, then they have no basis for restricting him, regardless of his betting patterns. I'm just illustrating here, but if, for example, they have a x5 wagering requirement to clear the bonus amount, then they can't limit a player because they haven't wagered their amount 50 times. Likewise, if they haven't defined what odds are required, then they shouldn't limit the player just because he bet 1.01x, not 1.5x or 2x. Such practices of restricting players without a valid reason are considered discriminatory and are even illegal in some jurisdictions, regardless of what is stated in their Terms of Service.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

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Thanks for your story. I didn't know they send out "unexpected bonuses"
I think that is very bad and goes against responsible gambling.

Sorry but how is sending out an unexpected bonuses to a customer very bad , and goes against responsible gambling?

I am curious to know why you think this way, it was a bonus after all , and according to op, he did all his gambling with this bonus, which means he never deposited a dime of his money on the casino, so what exactly do you refer to; to be bad and irresponsible gambling?, is it the bonuses Rollbit gave to op? Or is it the way Op managed or used the bonus ? Was he supposed to deposit his own money when he clearly have more than enough money to play with for free ?..

[Mr.right85]

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

Such low odds, that’s something!
I think the idea for you was, trying to transfer the bonuses into wins so you could withdraw them as bonuses aren’t readily withdraw able. They somehow get to understand this and has to act in a way to stop this.

That’s my understanding to the situation and I can’t say if they are right or wrong should that be the case. The emphases as I see it now isn’t in the 1.01 odd bets but is in the act being perpetuated which is possibly a loophole within there gambling system and you wouldn’t expect them not to tighten loosed ends.

Perhaps a better means to do that would have been stating an odd limit or number of accumulated games there bonuses systems could allow. Some other gambling sites limit it to certain games but then, you can’t say you were exactly cheated with you not having to deposit anything.
You could as well view it as a credit to test there site bonus, lol!

[FatFork]

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Thanks for your story. I didn't know they send out "unexpected bonuses"
I think that is very bad and goes against responsible gambling.

Sorry but how is sending out an unexpected bonuses to a customer very bad , and goes against responsible gambling?

Good point! I'm not quite sure if his problem lies with the "unexpected" or the "bonus"?! Personally, considering we're in the gambling section, I'd say the "unexpected bonus" sounds way more enticing than the expected one! 

[Webetcoins]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

First what is the role of ChatGPT in all this case ? You mean that Rollbit got to know that you are a diamond level player at stake.com, through ChatGPT ? I don't think that chatGPT has such information of the users within the platform.

He probably meant that ChatGPT helped him write the message that he is posting here and not that it helped the casino in knowing he was a diamond player at Stake because the data that ChatGPT or any AI might collect from you won't be shared with any other users, so there is no way for them to get this information from ChatGPT. So, he possibly just use ChatGPT to help him write this messages since I believe English is not OP's first language.

Getting back to the topic, what messed up was that OP wasn't making any deposits and was playing it very safe by placing bets with very low odds only to win and increase his account level through the wagering he was doing so that he can get level bonus and the casino probably didn't like that.

[CryptSafe]

What is the point making deposit when OP was given enough bonus to start with. I am beginning to see the reasons why casinos ban accounts claiming they cheated meanwhile they are most times  set them up to do their biding but when the reverse is the case, they take unnecessary actions against their clients with a claim of them cheating the system. I think his was the same strategy rollbit wanted t use on OP but OP was very lucky with his or her game winning and claiming his wins and possibly rollbit was expecting OP to lose so they could get deposit from OP then begin with their losing gimmicks to run OP but it seems luck ran against them and OP was clever enough to withdraw wins before they banned OP.

My question now is this, If the reverse were to be the case, would rollbit casino ban OP account for recording losses? So they were making loss and were quick to ban OP immediately without any reasons to their actions.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

It sounds like you may have done something which goes against the terms of service but lucky for you, you took out your money from that platform, into your own, personal wallet. Good job! I would not even go as far as to call that luck, but rather a smart decision not to hold crypto on a third party wallet. You would have definitely lost your money if you did.

Same goes for every wallet which is not your own(like exchange wallets). Not your keys, not your wallet.

Well, the truth is, these types of things are what we can normally think that yes, there is a gross violation of the Tos, but it is something strange, I don't really understand what the serious mistake you made was, so in this order of ideas things are I don't think they're bad, it's strange that everything has been like that, generally, whenever a player gets banned they do things like they can't withdraw the money, but Rollbit is a casino that is very reliable, that has many features Well, in fact it is in an ancient cryptocurrency market, where it has its own NFT, and its RLB tokens, it seems to me that it is a casino that is growing little by little, but at great speed, this is something that I like, but at the same time At the same time I don't understand why what happened to him or that he violated the rules is strange, and also the withdrawal that was made was large and the fact that they didn't subject him to a review seemed quite strange to me, there was a lack of security on the part of of the casino team, because the truth is you did not take advantage of any vulnerability.

So you could say that things are being combined so that they are different types of things with casinos, it is always good to clarify where the rules were violated so that at least the other players do not fall into that, sometimes rules can be broken without knowing, and that it is in the Tos, but sometimes we are too lazy to read the Tos, we accept it just like that, just with the desire to play and continue playing big, sometimes this type of Fever makes us make mistakes and really read so much, because it is something that not everyone does, only the adrenaline of the game will once and for all take over from us to give that acceptance to the Tos, in the moment that it is accepted we are in the hands of the ones who Casnio has there, they are their rules, they are the ones that I have complied with, so it is difficult to know what they based on to ban you, could it just be because of the large withdrawal that was made? Or wanting it would be what was not allowed, but it is very strange that you have gotten away with all this.

[JustBet]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

[DoublerHunter]

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This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

^ How many web3 gambling casinos are out there now?
That is definitely right, a KYCed casino should left behind on this web3 casino. They doing trap promotion that seems a bait to their customer from banning and saying goodbye to their money once it has a balance. It is a shame that the casino has had many complaints recently.
Has your Justbet promoted it here?

[ryzaadit]

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Because, to avoid multi-account claiming the abused (most of casino, somtime required user to at least one active deposit).
Anyway, I agree with @OP 1.01 bet on Crash is not really abusive because we can get multiple time 0/1.00 bust on crash. IMO, they should think about the counted waggering while the waggering are only counted from the money user win/lose not from the waggering amount.

Example
- Bet with 1.10 ODDS
- I bet 1000$
- Win Estimation: 1100$
- Waggering Counted (Win = 100$ & Lose = 1000$).

[Nrcewker]

How Rollbit got your information? Stake and Rollbit are associated with each other? I am not aware of it? And they credited bonus in your account out of no where, only because you are a high roller or diamond player at stake? Moreover I am not getting the motive behind this post, you are warning the users to not play because they banned your 0 balance account for no reason? If you don’t provide any proofs of what you are saying then no one will believe you mate.

[bettercrypto]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

You know, if I compare what you experienced with the previous ones who had issues with the casino that they gambled on, you are the luckiest of them because before your account was transferred, you had the opportunity to release most of your funds from the casino platform in honesty.

Think about how much money you have taken out compared to other complainants who have not been able to recover or withdraw their funds that were left in their account on the casino platform. Take note that their account has not been cashed even though it is still on hold, which is still possible they can recover, but most of them have not recovered their account and fund balance in the wallet of the casino where they play.

[Out of mind]

I think you want to take your account to a higher position with different strategies. The tactics you have used may have abused the rules of Rollbit for which you have been banned from there. But if you minimize your risk and bet, a casino platform will never ban your account, maybe you have banned your account due to various abuses. And did you mention that you never deposited much money there but got money there by referral with various bonuses and gambled with them. There may be many other types of gambling abuses that Rollbit doesn't like at all and therefore bans.

[Outhue]

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This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

^ How many web3 gambling casinos are out there now?
That is definitely right, a KYCed casino should left behind on this web3 casino. They doing trap promotion that seems a bait to their customer from banning and saying goodbye to their money once it has a balance. It is a shame that the casino has had many complaints recently.
Has your Justbet promoted it here?

Every promotions for casino is a trap promotion, it's the same with every jackpot you hit from casino, it will take heavens grace and your own knowledge to avoid giving the money back to them because of your own greed.

The problem I have with web3 casinos is how they will maintain no KYC policy while they are growing, it's like been decentralized, since all you need is to connect your wallet to the platform and gamble.

I remember what happened with Uniswap, they work in such manner too, but they later succumb to the SEC power, they block project off the platform.

If they can do this, any web 3 online casino can come up with rubbish too, whatever this person is telling you about web 3 casino is another promotion too, will they keep to it on the long run? That's a million dollar question.

[FatFork]

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This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

^ How many web3 gambling casinos are out there now?
That is definitely right, a KYCed casino should left behind on this web3 casino. They doing trap promotion that seems a bait to their customer from banning and saying goodbye to their money once it has a balance. It is a shame that the casino has had many complaints recently.
Has your Justbet promoted it here?

Every promotions for casino is a trap promotion, it's the same with every jackpot you hit from casino, it will take heavens grace and your own knowledge to avoid giving the money back to them because of your own greed.

The problem I have with web3 casinos is how they will maintain no KYC policy while they are growing, it's like been decentralized, since all you need is to connect your wallet to the platform and gamble.

I remember what happened with Uniswap, they work in such manner too, but they later succumb to the SEC power, they block project off the platform.

If they can do this, any web 3 online casino can come up with rubbish too, whatever this person is telling you about web 3 casino is another promotion too, will they keep to it on the long run? That's a million dollar question.

Even if they're Web3 casinos, they're not completely decentralized. They still require a website, software, a centralized database on servers, a domain, and a bunch of other centralized stuff that are under regulatory control. They might be able to fly under the radar for a limited time, but eventually, their activities are likely to catch the attention of authorities or regulatory bodies.

[acroman08]

How Rollbit got your information? Stake and Rollbit are associated with each other? I am not aware of it? And they credited bonus in your account out of no where, only because you are a high roller or diamond player at stake?

OP believes that Rollbit bought "hacked email list of all stake.com users", that is why Rollbit were able to send the promotion bonus to the OP and other Stake.com users.

this is a thread from stake.com forum where they talk about suddenly getting emails from different gambling site.

https://stakecommunity.com/topic/69364-email-from-diffrente-casino-anyone-else-got-it/#comment-1482952

Moreover I am not getting the motive behind this post, you are warning the users to not play because they banned your 0 balance account for no reason? If you don’t provide any proofs of what you are saying then no one will believe you mate.

The OP was accused of "abuse" that's why he was banned. Rollbit never elaborated on the screenshot OP shared. but OP believes that he was banned for betting on 1.01 odds to quickly rank up his account on the gambling site.

[JustBet]

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This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

^ How many web3 gambling casinos are out there now?
That is definitely right, a KYCed casino should left behind on this web3 casino. They doing trap promotion that seems a bait to their customer from banning and saying goodbye to their money once it has a balance. It is a shame that the casino has had many complaints recently.
Has your Justbet promoted it here?

If you mean the ones that are fully decentralized only a few. JustBet launched a few months ago and doing a great job so far. We don't have sign-up or deposit bonus etc. because players directly play through their web3 wallet. Unfortunately we can't promote as we don't accept bitcoin because bitcoin doesn't have smart contracts.

Every promotions for casino is a trap promotion, it's the same with every jackpot you hit from casino, it will take heavens grace and your own knowledge to avoid giving the money back to them because of your own greed.

The problem I have with web3 casinos is how they will maintain no KYC policy while they are growing, it's like been decentralized, since all you need is to connect your wallet to the platform and gamble.

I remember what happened with Uniswap, they work in such manner too, but they later succumb to the SEC power, they block project off the platform.

If they can do this, any web 3 online casino can come up with rubbish too, whatever this person is telling you about web 3 casino is another promotion too, will they keep to it on the long run? That's a million dollar question.

We all will see what the future brings. At least we are keen to build a safer online casino experience. At least JustBet can't ban any player and can't interfere with withdrawals.