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September 12, 2023, 04:44:59 AM
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It is evidently so, but what an individual Bitcoin forum member can do from their own end is to be genuine and remember that there are eyes and bots here that know when one is spamming or using A.I generated text. I don't need to stress on the repercussion of such act, but anyone who does so has no interest of learning about BTC in the slightest bit, mostly when the lies told here is not on point or related to what is discussed or related to what the idea of this forum stand to promote.
I find it incredibly annoying that people use artificial intelligence to generate text. Well, sooner or later, this fact will become known. Don't they understand this? What type of head do you need to be in order to use it here?
I have already written more than once that this will lead to a similar situation. There are benefits from AI somewhere, but certainly not in our case. This requires live communication, not machine communication.

I reckon that loads of this depends on the degree of information one has which literally translates to the amount of DYOR been put into considerationby a user.

If one is properly informed about the blockchain space, I see no reason why one will call up the use of AI for a brief live contribution that will make more meaning, even an excerpt is welcomed with a reference tagged.

Telling lies or deploying AI texts and/or comments is highly irrelevant in this forum's growth or sensitisation.

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September 12, 2023, 04:52:06 AM
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In some cases, if you look at some posts, it seems that maybe this post is baseless or this post is made with some false dialogue. The reason for lying in the forum may be to increase the rank of one's account. By sharing some false story, many times it is seen that he is getting some merit for that post. However, although some posts are false, most of the posts are about people's real experiences or true events. The difference between truth and falsehood is easy to understand, when a person makes a post with false dialogue, it can be understood by looking at the type of his post. The subject and object of the post are true.

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September 12, 2023, 06:59:14 AM
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Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

Many individuals lie to gain merits because they're finding it difficult to get merit when they tell the truth, they present their stories like they're succeeding from Bitcoin because this will appeal those reading their stories but that doesn't make them successful. The internet is full of individuals pretending to be who they're not and also the forum will be full of them as well because everyone wants to look good on the internet while their life isn't going so well.

When you read a topic that isn't looking real but false like most of the achievement topics and accepting bitcoin in their locality, it's better if we don't post on those thread and allow the OP to be telling himself lies. We can't stop lies on the forum but we can stop encouraging them.

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September 12, 2023, 08:07:23 AM
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I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Yes, actually, many newbies engage in the act of creating a fiction story just to gain merit. In short, let's call them merit hunters because that is what they are, but actually, some stories are not fiction but real stories that are hard to believe because when you hear something that happens to someone about bitcoin or how literate a few people are about bitcoin, you will be surprised and might not believe because I also have a thread that I created on educating and also advising a friend of mine about bitcoin, but many members that discuss it don't believe; some are saying it was just a friction, while some believe my story. Click here to see more

I don't worry myself about fake stories on the forum because I always believe that many things are happening in this world today, even if that story is not real, it could have happened to someone in the real life, so just relax and enjoy it.

You don't have to merit any posts if you don't believe in them, it's not a must. 

That is the point: fake stories are all over, and by hearing some, you can testify, so I also see no reason that we will be disturbed because most of these stories usually come from newbies that are hunting merit.

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September 12, 2023, 08:08:14 AM
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This forum is large and free for everyone to discuss so it is not surprising that you will find lots of various types of posters, of course it is difficult for us to prevent this. If you really like reading, maybe you can sort out which posts are fictional or real. These two posts are sometimes useful for motivating ourselves, maybe this is a positive thing we can take away.

The negative thing is for those who like to make lying posters so that they give birth to fictional stories, they are not only lying to other people, but they are lying to themselves too. they don't know that lying is a disease, if you keep doing it it will become a habit, once it becomes a habit you will never feel guilty, of course if you keep doing this kind of thing you will be at a loss to yourself. In essence, if you ask what are the benefits of the lies they make on forums? none at all.

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September 12, 2023, 09:05:21 AM
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 In essence, if you ask what are the benefits of the lies they make on forums? none at all.

If lying doesn't bring any benefits, then why do they waste time creating false stories? Everything has a purpose, even true stories, and most of the purpose is the desire to receive merit from others. The same reason why we are often active on this forum and not others is because signature campaigns can be profitable for us. Everything has its purpose, no one has free time to do something without a specific purpose. Our goals on this forum are the same, but everyone has different ways to achieve their goals.

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September 12, 2023, 09:34:44 AM
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Which world are you living in op? Liars are everywhere and they usually do whatever it takes to survive in this world. Some of them lie for merit while some others lie for an ego boost.

Easiest way to tell whether anyone is lying about their story or not is by checking their post history carefully.
Many people lie for so many reasons,  some cook up stories maybe just to stay relevant and to been seen as a dedicated bitcoiner in the forum.  One thing I know is that people will always lie in the forum to gain  just their interest from lies, as far as human are concerned their are some who can not do without lies. What I know is that forum members are not dumb, we will be able to fish out whenever we come across stories that are not real by the content of the story.

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September 12, 2023, 01:23:03 PM
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I can only think of two things why people do this. First, they want attention. People like these are not new, there are a lot of individuals around the world wide web that makes up story to get things from others like sympathy, attention, and fame. You can check your social media and scroll for a bit, I'm sure it wouldn't be long for you to see a post that is obviously either telling a whole false story or twisting one to make them the "main character" of the situation. The second possible reason why they are doing this is for merit. There are a lot of campaigns that will require accounts to have high merit before they consider hiring you, so what best way to earn merit than to post false stories that will get a lot of attention from others?
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September 12, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
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Maybe they often watch films where the storyline is based on a true story. Cheesy
Lying is a very common part of everyday life and can be found everywhere, including in forums. Some forum members may not be able to detect it, but others can detect it well from the storyline or compare it with their posting history.
As long as it doesn't violate the forum rules and doesn't harm other people, just enjoy whatever you think they are lying or making up fiction.

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September 12, 2023, 01:38:42 PM
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 Bro, stuff like this shouldn't get you losing sleep over it because it's still going to continue. Before you narrow it to the forum, ask yourself why people lie generally. I've come across some tales spun by some users in this place that sometimes makes me wonder how low they can go just to get some form of attention or merits. Sometimes it gets so annoying that they'd forget the lie they told in one post and in another, will want to act innocent and naive.
 There's nothing good that comes easy and to achieve a certain rep in this place, one has to be as truthful and honest as possible. You mustn't tell a lie just to rise in ranks or get enough merits your way! Good, quality posts does that..
There are some stories that are spun in this forum that although untrue, it might look believable, but then again some are just do lame that sometimes I feel like asking them "dude, how did this sound to you?". We can't stop them from continuing and some, if you don't have proof, you can't just call it a lie so the best thing is to just ignore that user.

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September 12, 2023, 01:43:01 PM
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I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum.

The reason is so simple. They are hoping to get some merits. Newbies see some forum members got some merit because they have shared what they did with their Bitcoin, and those topics earned some merits. For example, A legendary member started to accept Bitcoin in his shop which is good for Bitcoin. There are some people who are unlikely to lie about their business.

I am a newbie and I want to earn some quick merits. I saw their posts getting merits so I thought why not make up a story and post it to get some merits? After all no is going to verify my stories because this is a internet forum.

That's what happen when you see a new story from some random newbies. I am not saying all of them, but most of them.

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September 12, 2023, 02:05:29 PM
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I saw most of replies said that most of users lie so they could get some merit, it's not wrong, but there are other reasons too I think. Some user just need to fulfill their weekly activity quota, or signature post requirement, they lie so they can have some context while writing some reply, without lying they might don't have any topic/opinion so they can't reply to the thread. Also some people are just pathological liar, it's just their habit, they just lie without any agenda.

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September 12, 2023, 02:18:52 PM
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I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.
Well everyone can still post anything in this forum as long as it is within the rules. There are people as well in Trading Discussion that I take with a grain of salt or with skepticism since we can't really verify the authenticity of each posts. Unless it is a news or a technical fact about Bitcoin, it might be hard to disprove.

People aren't prohibited to post as long as it is still somehow related to Bitcoin. They can still share experience even if it isn't that much informative.

Some people post just to trigger a bystander effect wherein they would post wrong facts only to be corrected by someone.
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September 12, 2023, 07:06:05 PM
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I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

Actually, any story of the origins of such global project is a fairytale, bitcoin is not an exception. I think that BTC is the testnet of novel fintech features. Its value is very high due to the fact that all the testnets need to bring money to people taking part in testing, otherwise there wouldnt be many participants, and testnet would fail, so the value of btc is the "donation" to people testing the network. I think that blockchain and decetralised data storage are the future of digital fiat money systems.

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September 12, 2023, 07:44:03 PM
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The character of each user is different in this forum, we cannot blame or judge them because we know this forum is free for anyone to contribute, even if he lies it means he has lied to himself. However, if we have broad insight, we can judge for ourselves which posters are factual and which ones are fictitious, therefore we can ignore them if we see fictitious posters. If the poster is too exaggerated, maybe you can press the report button to the moderator.

However, if we think about it, this thread is also good for liars, because this can make them more careful in lying. The rest, we just take what is good to motivate ourselves even if he makes up a fictional story about his success in investing in bitcoin.

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September 12, 2023, 08:00:51 PM
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This is merit fishing and it's the sad reality of most of the merits now because if you want to join any signature campaign which pays in BTC or USDT you need merits and users indulge in so many strategy to get merit, either through their alt account like newbie account by posting useless questions like this OP which everybody has answers and then answer it from their alt account to get get merit. This cycle has to stop and profiles shouldn't be judged based on merits and I think merit as a qualification should be discontinued and quality of post should be considered for campaigns.









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September 12, 2023, 08:24:52 PM
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I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

You know many of them lack the material to impress that they really understand Bitcoin deaply, so they choose the easiest way which is why they spice up their lies just to earn merit and belong to the I have rank up groups and it was through my effort. There is nothing wrong if people share information or achievement a our bitcoin, it's something I personally love to read because it's more like adoption but the only problem is see with this achievement is that, you can't verify if it's true or lies. However, one thing is sure about the forum is you can lie from the very beginning but you can't lie forever, you will be caught half way to the top or when you get to the top.

In addition, you don't have to worry yourself about such people, learn about Bitcoin, understand it, learn about wallet and how to secure them, go deeper and learn more, with time you will b happy that you take the good route into understanding the forum because that's what you will use to communicate and interact in the Forum. The rest that lies will be out lies even with simple conversation.

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September 12, 2023, 08:38:15 PM
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Many people lie for so many reasons,  some cook up stories maybe just to stay relevant and to been seen as a dedicated bitcoiner in the forum.  One thing I know is that people will always lie in the forum to gain  just their interest from lies, as far as human are concerned their are some who can not do without lies. What I know is that forum members are not dumb, we will be able to fish out whenever we come across stories that are not real by the content of the story.
The facts are like that, and in general the lies are done because they hope for personal gain. Yes the end goal may vary, but I don't get that lie as a necessity if they really want to grow well on this forum. Lies are everywhere and I think it's hard to tell the difference because this is an online forum.

Humans will never be perfect, they can lie for any reason and sometimes we are amazed at how they do it. Pretending to be a beginner is also a lie, and we often find it.

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September 12, 2023, 09:22:22 PM
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They make up stories to gain sympathy and everyone’s attention I guess. Some do this to get merits for their amazing and inspirational stories. I don’t judge whether these stories are real or fake, I just enjoy them and believes them. As long as Bitcoins are associated, I find it very interesting to read about these stories and their life lessons that they got from Bitcoins. I know those stories might not be completely true, but the satisfaction that you get when someone says “My dream came true due to Bitcoins “ excites me a lot.
Most likely some people exaggerate their stories not to lie in the forum but to inspire others that with bitcoin, everything is still possible. It’s not just all about consistent losses, but also life changing success in the end. And I ultimately believe that bitcoin is probably our future. Whether these testimonies are fake or real, I actually don’t care. We all have different experiences with bitcoin, and let’s just accept that some have been greatly living their lives because of bitcoin while others are still working on a progress.

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September 12, 2023, 11:22:07 PM
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OP Since the forum welcomes all without discrimination or providing any forum users preferential treatment, everyone in it is allowed to share or tell any stories they choose without anyone restricting them from doing so. Every story post is acceptable so long as it complies with the forum guidelines.

Some of us are aware that some posts made by newbies may be fiction stories, but not all of them are because some users have taken it upon themselves to raise awareness of bitcoin in their community and to present it as a new form of payment to their businesses.
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