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February 01, 2024, 11:42:01 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.


I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.

I usually don't go on casinos which doesn't have any thread in this forum and prove their reputation to the community since its hard to risk our money there. We know rampant scamming happened in the industry that's why much better for certain individual to just choose those casino since they have a platform where they can report their bad experiences since if they choose those casino which doesn't have threads anywhere then for sure they might struggle to go after with them since they don't have any means to report them.

I heard some of those casino but never bother to try them since for me the casino's available in this forum is much better choice to choose and I'm kinda suspicious to random thing that I see online that's why usually I don't choose them and hope other people will give weights regarding on this matter especially on how they select casino to play.
Same here, whenever i do look for something new specially if its crypto related then this forum itself would really be the most ideal place that you could look for when it comes to information that you could really be able to seek on. We do know that this forum  does have that kind of verification whether the site is really that worth to engage on basing up with those real time feedbacks and comments on which you could really be able to check out whether it would really be worth for you to engage on or not. This is why it would really be that so hard to trust up any sites specially new ones
on the time that they dont have any reputation or known feedbacks that you could check upon. This is why i do really always stick into those platforms who does have that
kind of information that i could check upon.
You are right, good Numbers to play with , because it is ideal to let people know that the forum has very good ways of doing things here , there are people who are dedicated Only to Making Reviews of investigating casinos to see what they are like, what the things they do are like In withdrawals , such as the KYC process, whether they approve it Quickly or not , how old they are , those are the things they always have to do , so in this Order of ideas things can be done Better if we see all of that thing , Sometimes our investigations have to be Deeper and with more detail, sometimes we with little experience do not know how to do or see the Things that we Should Actually look for, so when we are looking for the best places we have to be or Choose very well because It is money that we are Going to put into the Sites , it is not just Anything.

Now when we are looking for ways to Send things , we have to Consider More,   for Example , when I am searching on Google , some type of information I look for in forums , because the forums are more Specific, they have more detailed information And that is what we Should See, the Information that is not normally found on the web, on a Page , but in the forums.

As I said before, there are many People in the Forum Who are Dedicated to trying the casino, who are dedicated to doing things so that others Avoid being People who Scam them , that is the only thing that should be avoided, therefore when we all make any Gesture to Avoid the bad , the bitcointalk Forum offers us not only the reviewers, but also the Ann Threads of the Sites , in my Personal opinion I do not trust any other casino that is not here in the forum , it is the only Way I can To trust is that they have Threads here and that there Seems to be a Community , Otherwise I'll take the risk , I learned that a long time ago.

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February 02, 2024, 11:29:26 AM
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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

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February 02, 2024, 08:51:32 PM
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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

Well, that is something that we must see as a problem that politicians should focus on solving, because if they are politicians and supposedly they were put there in those coargos, the people, then they should help, but as things currently are, the interests, the conflict of They are very interested in what they put and are biased towards what people are looking for, or being a common human being what they are looking for, in this order of ideas, we are people who are always going to generate whatever it takes to be able to have the best possible in the Yes, things, but this is always about seeking improvements for people who want and seek to improve their financial level, that is something that very few see, as far as I am concerned I can sometimes see that regulation financing systems in crypto for Any country they will always require people to leave their data, and everything they ask, in a very cursory way but that they leave it, which I don't think, but they always look for better opinions for that.

Now when we are looking for ways to do things while protecting our Privacy and Anonymity , that is when there Should be some protection in each country for that, things should not be done for the worse all the time, if I want to preserve my anonymity , that It must be respected, those who want to leave their KYC is something else , I believe that in this world we are free to choose our great option of doing things, if we want you will have anonymity and Privacy , things must be done well, they must always be exercise so that we can have the best possible in things of protection, in the governments so far what I have seen, they want to have the registry of the people who will make transactions with crypto, in exchanges, casinos and everything that has to do See with it, then thanks to that, adoption is not a complete fact due to those KYC Requirements that not Everyone likes.



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February 02, 2024, 09:23:41 PM
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These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.

I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.
The casinos that we have on this forum are all cryptocurrency casinos and no matter how popular and big they are, there will always be companies that will be more liquid and big than them when it comes to finances and stuff. Besides, a company doesn't necessarily have to have platforms with its name, which means that its products can be named differently and we might have seen or known their products but we never knew the parent companies.

There are a lot of fiat gambling companies that are way more popular and big than cryptocurrency gambling platforms, and the gambling industry is huge when it comes to liquidity. We all know how much money a legit casino earns if it has a lot of users and gamblers since most gamblers lose money in the long run.

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February 02, 2024, 09:30:52 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
No matter the level of wisdom that the gambler seems to apply, a shaddy casino will alwys fine ways to denied him of her the winning if they feels that the gambler has won a substantive amount that could affect their liquidity at some point, this how to know the legit casinos from the scams that promote themselves around.
More, you can easily know a highly liquid casino with the way and manner in which they make their winning payout without any excuses or even attempt to withhold or deny the gambler their winnings.
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Well, that is something that we must see as a problem that politicians should focus on solving, because if they are politicians and supposedly they were put there in those coargos, the people, then they should help, but as things currently are, the interests, the conflict of They are very interested in what they put and are biased towards what people are looking for, or being a common human being what they are looking for, in this order of ideas, we are people who are always going to generate whatever it takes to be able to have the best possible in the Yes, things, but this is always about seeking improvements for people who want and seek to improve their financial level, that is something that very few see, as far as I am concerned I can sometimes see that regulation financing systems in crypto for Any country they will always require people to leave their data, and everything they ask, in a very cursory way but that they leave it, which I don't think, but they always look for better opinions for that.

Now when we are looking for ways to do things while protecting our Privacy and Anonymity , that is when there Should be some protection in each country for that, things should not be done for the worse all the time, if I want to preserve my anonymity , that It must be respected, those who want to leave their KYC is something else , I believe that in this world we are free to choose our great option of doing things, if we want you will have anonymity and Privacy , things must be done well, they must always be exercise so that we can have the best possible in things of protection, in the governments so far what I have seen, they want to have the registry of the people who will make transactions with crypto, in exchanges, casinos and everything that has to do See with it, then thanks to that, adoption is not a complete fact due to those KYC Requirements that not Everyone likes.


Total control over the financial flows and financial situation of people all over the world is of course just a dream for any government in any country.  Then you can clearly keep all people on a short leash.  Those who are richer can be strangled with taxes.  And those who are poorer can also be forced to work hard and productively.  And, moreover, pay such people only so that these people would not be hungry and would have some kind of simple housing and could pay for utilities.  So it turns out that cryptocurrencies are theoretically beyond the control of the authorities.  And payments then become uncontrollable.  And of course, the authorities will encourage and even demand from all business structures that they must introduce KYC.  And then this data would be given to officials for control.  But humanity, having such an excellent anonymous tool as cryptocurrency, must resist the authorities’ attack on the right of anonymity and the right to private life of a citizen.  I hope that the process of countering KYC will continue.

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February 03, 2024, 12:49:33 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
No matter the level of wisdom that the gambler seems to apply, a shaddy casino will alwys fine ways to denied him of her the winning if they feels that the gambler has won a substantive amount that could affect their liquidity at some point, this how to know the legit casinos from the scams that promote themselves around.
More, you can easily know a highly liquid casino with the way and manner in which they make their winning payout without any excuses or even attempt to withhold or deny the gambler their winnings.
With the application of technology in every online gambling Casinos, I believe that every casino usually have a limit of amount that any player can win in which ever casino he or she is playing on, casino set their highest winning amount to an amount that is completely based on what their liquidity looks like at every given point in time.

Like for example, when you are betting on sports on Stake.com, depending on how high the odds of a game is, if you want to bet an amount of money that will give you a potential winning amount that is far above the limit to which stake allows player to win, such bet will not be placed, but rather, will return an error message, telling you that your potential winning amount have exceeded the limit allowed to win, you will either have to reduce the amount of money you are betting on that game, or find a way to bring the odds down a bit so as to reduce your potential winning amount.

If every casino have this type of technology or system implemented in their betting system, a player will never be allowed to win an amount that is above an amount the casino can pay and go bankrupt, no no.

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February 03, 2024, 02:48:22 PM
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Maybe we should know this for now in case of the benefits of those who don't know much about this gambling platforms, talking from the general perspective, gambling platforms has money and are one of the richest sectors we could ever imagined, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with the way we gamble or how we make a win if they are having money or not, but those that are most liquid among others don't hesitate spending money to maintain their operations unlike others who don't.

I think it is self-evident that these companies have a good position in terms of liquidity, whether compared to the rest of the sectors in the economic fabric or the balance sheets of small and medium companies in general.

Casino companies are considered some of the most profitable companies around the world, as players spend long hours playing and betting. Casinos provide the opportunity to win large sums of money easily and quickly, and they also provide an exciting and entertaining experience. In addition, they offer a wide range of gambling games to suit all interests.
And because of modern technology, it has become easy to access many online casino games from anywhere and at any time. Considering these factors, it can be said that casino companies have a huge amount of liquid.

It remains necessary to point out that it is not possible to know the correct amount of liquidity in any of the casinos, especially those that operate online, because the size of their budget enables them to provide technical support to hide this data.

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February 03, 2024, 04:33:03 PM
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These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.

I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.
The casinos that we have on this forum are all cryptocurrency casinos and no matter how popular and big they are, there will always be companies that will be more liquid and big than them when it comes to finances and stuff. Besides, a company doesn't necessarily have to have platforms with its name, which means that its products can be named differently and we might have seen or known their products but we never knew the parent companies.

There are a lot of fiat gambling companies that are way more popular and big than cryptocurrency gambling platforms, and the gambling industry is huge when it comes to liquidity. We all know how much money a legit casino earns if it has a lot of users and gamblers since most gamblers lose money in the long run.
Many casinos might not be as liquid as each other but are providing such a spectacular service to their customers, and fine, that is only a reason why liquidity may not be the only thing to consider here, but it will always be one of the factors that make the better casinos. Liquidity, as some might see it is the reason why some casinos would have issues with their huge clients since they are not able to fulfil their obligations to them. They might not be paying attention to the capability of the customer but to the money thinking they would gain from his losses (high risk for the house).

Unfortunately for them at times, the gambler will win more than they barged for and it will be an issue for them because if they actually pay (that's if they have the money at all), it might make them illiquid to fulfil more obligations. That is why you will see some reasonable casinos that will limit the amount you can wager per bet and this varies among casinos. But this can't still be used to judge the capacity of casinos, only that some are more reasonable and managerial than others in case of unforeseen circumstances. And yes, casinos are better at gaining more than their customer as you said, but in a few cases, the case might be ugly as a single gain by customers might be an issue for them if care is not taken.

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February 04, 2024, 12:26:40 AM
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Have heard of only some of these companies like Draftkings and MGM and I am guessing they are all primarily FIAT gambling companies which makes sense since crypto gambling site liquidities pale in comparison to them.

It's odd that you chose to share this information in a crypto gambling forum though op.

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February 05, 2024, 04:10:14 AM
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What I understand about liquidity is that in a given channel things work well, if there is some type of very large winner, then once that exit or that liability is covered without affecting the capital of the company. and to be up to date with everything, with your Services and with the payment of the workers' payroll, apart from being well or the security measures and the support of those freelance employees, that is what I see as liquidity, which also needs to be obtained money in a casino to make any type of improvement and so that the casino is Not in danger of Bankruptcy, that is what I consider superior liquidity.

At the company level things are like this, depending on the company model you have , be it American, European, Japanese or according to your DOFA matrix , now if liquidity refers to things being good within the casino, it is another name for me. , but when talking about liquidity it is always associated with the financial state.
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February 05, 2024, 07:54:05 AM
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Have heard of only some of these companies like Draftkings and MGM and I am guessing they are all primarily FIAT gambling companies which makes sense since crypto gambling site liquidities pale in comparison to them.

It's odd that you chose to share this information in a crypto gambling forum though op.
I see nothing odd here, the business models of everyone could be different. Some casinos could be entirely fiat while some could be entirely cryptocurrency, and others could mix the two together, it doesn't matter. We see these three categories daily and it depends on the preference of the bettors and the business model of the casinos themselves. Mind you, all of them are finding their ground in the market and are getting bigger daily, and the bigness of casinos can't ever be limited by whether or not they are crypto-casinos, as far as I am concerned, money is money in this regard whether it is crypto or fiat.

You can't say that because some casinos are dealing with crypto, for this, they are not liquid, is cryptocurrency not money, or at least, is it not an asset, can't it be converted to fiat, and fiat to it? There is huge money in the cryptocurrency market, which is why many casinos that started with only fiat options are now adding cryptocurrency to their deposit and withdrawal options so that they can make more money in this competitive market.

This is liquidity/capitalization, or do you want to say that Bitcoin itself for instance is not liquid? Then you probably may not know the meaning of liquidity if you think that way.

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It's odd that you chose to share this information in a crypto gambling forum though op.
Fiat gambling casinos and crypto gambling casinos are all into one same business, and that is, gambling, and this place being a place where everything and anything that partains to gambling can be discussed, anything gambling related can actually be posted here regardless of whether the topic is centered around fiat gambling casinos, or crypto gambling casinos, there is no difference aside from the currency, which i am also very sure that most of us here also from time to time, spend some time and money on fiat gambling casinos.

So, absolutely nothing is odd with or about what op have shared here, if you go around this board, you will find numerous threads on stories that relates to fiat gambling casinos, same way we have some that relates to crypto gambling casinos.

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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.

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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.

Well, but it is an alternative, you don't have to rule these things out, because that is something that should be done as a person who should promote this type of things so that the KYC disappears, you are very right, they should speed up that process So that they can generate better things to do, I am a very erratic person and I do not believe in the KYC processes, for me it is a total Annoyance, and I think that is something that should not exist, in fact the only way you have to Is that extorting companies, because I am one of those who think that as a client you prefer not to play, the problem with this is when people say that they no longer want to be in lsop caisno online until the requirement is removed? How can companies do it? It can come to a time like that, that is when I think they can opt for the options of Managing cryptocurrencies like Monero , it is the safest for that.

When we are generating a Way of doing things better , We have to Realize that these Alternatives , I imagine, are why caisnos must already have them clear , Investigated and probably close to accepting because they Cannot be left Behind , the People who are at the forefront of the investigation and security of the casino, in reality I Would not Like to be in Charge of the Security of a casino, because it is a lot of work that they have, and I think that it Costs a lot of money , due to the Degree of responsibility that is You see what you have and what you have to assume, the security engineer has to have a team fully dedicated and specialized in blockchain and against all types of Hacking, this is what we generate in casinos, for example the oldest casinos must be up to date so much of this information, that's why we have to be Good with these Things , in Fact this Information Should be Put in the Main things that Everyone Should read in the forum.

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February 10, 2024, 06:52:07 AM
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It's odd that you chose to share this information in a crypto gambling forum though op.
Fiat gambling casinos and crypto gambling casinos are all into one same business, and that is, gambling, and this place being a place where everything and anything that partains to gambling can be discussed, anything gambling related can actually be posted here regardless of whether the topic is centered around fiat gambling casinos, or crypto gambling casinos, there is no difference aside from the currency, which i am also very sure that most of us here also from time to time, spend some time and money on fiat gambling casinos.

So, absolutely nothing is odd with or about what op have shared here, if you go around this board, you will find numerous threads on stories that relates to fiat gambling casinos, same way we have some that relates to crypto gambling casinos.
Both fiat and cryptocurrency casinos are on the same category in this discussion, and the only difference iq010.
.s that, cryptocurrencies payment option on the casino could be an added feature which can attract player,s and since the topic is centered on the most liquid provider in the market ot now very important for those casinos that have a payment system more than those that have a single payment system.


So in that regard, those casinos that accept both fiat and crypto will have more liquidity than the ones that have only one payment system like the crypto casino or a fiat casino, this is what we mostly look out for in most cases, and at some point in time.


For that, we have to focus more on those few casinos, and in doing that we have to outline them and thereafter check their liquidity level before we compare them to each other and then arrive at our final point where we check the volume of the liquidity they provide.

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It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.

Well, but it is an alternative, you don't have to rule these things out, because that is something that should be done as a person who should promote this type of things so that the KYC disappears, you are very right, they should speed up that process So that they can generate better things to do, I am a very erratic person and I do not believe in the KYC processes, for me it is a total Annoyance, and I think that is something that should not exist, in fact the only way you have to Is that extorting companies, because I am one of those who think that as a client you prefer not to play, the problem with this is when people say that they no longer want to be in lsop caisno online until the requirement is removed? How can companies do it? It can come to a time like that, that is when I think they can opt for the options of Managing cryptocurrencies like Monero , it is the safest for that.

It is likely that Monero would indeed be perfect for providing complete anonymity for players.  However, we must admit that this cryptocurrency is too little widespread in general in the world of cryptocurrency payments compared to Bitcoin and top altcoins.  And too few casinos also use this coin in their payments.  In addition, do not forget that there are also many claims against Monero from US regulatory authorities.  Therefore, casinos are afraid to allow payments using Monero on their platforms. 
In short, this coin is a good option for anonymous payments, but it will not be widely used due to regulatory requirements, that is, due to the opposition of government authorities representing the requirements.

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It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.

Well, but it is an alternative, you don't have to rule these things out, because that is something that should be done as a person who should promote this type of things so that the KYC disappears, you are very right, they should speed up that process So that they can generate better things to do, I am a very erratic person and I do not believe in the KYC processes, for me it is a total Annoyance, and I think that is something that should not exist, in fact the only way you have to Is that extorting companies, because I am one of those who think that as a client you prefer not to play, the problem with this is when people say that they no longer want to be in lsop caisno online until the requirement is removed? How can companies do it? It can come to a time like that, that is when I think they can opt for the options of Managing cryptocurrencies like Monero , it is the safest for that.

It is likely that Monero would indeed be perfect for providing complete anonymity for players.  However, we must admit that this cryptocurrency is too little widespread in general in the world of cryptocurrency payments compared to Bitcoin and top altcoins.  And too few casinos also use this coin in their payments.  In addition, do not forget that there are also many claims against Monero from US regulatory authorities.  Therefore, casinos are afraid to allow payments using Monero on their platforms. 
In short, this coin is a good option for anonymous payments, but it will not be widely used due to regulatory requirements, that is, due to the opposition of government authorities representing the requirements.

You're right about that, although I can't think of any other Way of doing Things like this With more anonymity, because now IDon't think the Casinos die much because they have an interest in the privacy of the People , Basically what Interests them is that they They continue to register complaints and continue playing on their platforms, there is Nothing to do with complying with the regulations and regulations that the Governments Impose on them , they are Going to continue there , because they are Interested in that, now a casino that is committed to this problem and wants to get out of this quickly, well it Would be the other Option , but how Else could they do it ? The regulations , the KYC, the problem even with the Casinos that do not Accept VPNs is already quite big , I would Bbelieve that things can sometimes be complicated to do, so I Think that when it comes to doing something, you Can think about those Options , that's it there is a lot to talk About , as Long as they do not Have their Business model and it is not Affected I think they will not do much , I think it would be a Matter of waiting to see what Happens.

Because of adoption and everything that is happening, I think it can be a good starting point for things to be done right, I could think that when it comes to this , people should evaluate if they want this for their lives or just go to the physical casinos to See if they can Satisfy their Desire to play, because with the identities and with everything they have to do , well , Many People don't like this Idea , What we should do is see how everything continues to develop, for me it would be Great that they Ask to do something much Better so that they are solving this problem, I don't know if there will be casinos that commit to this and can generate the Solutions that everyone wants, it is something that can be counterproductive, and it is generated as a Problem that has to be Quick solution Because this type of thing is what should not be Thought about or Considered so Much.

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February 10, 2024, 04:35:22 PM
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It is likely that Monero would indeed be perfect for providing complete anonymity for players.  However, we must admit that this cryptocurrency is too little widespread in general in the world of cryptocurrency payments compared to Bitcoin and top altcoins.  And too few casinos also use this coin in their payments.  In addition, do not forget that there are also many claims against Monero from US regulatory authorities.  Therefore, casinos are afraid to allow payments using Monero on their platforms.  
In short, this coin is a good option for anonymous payments, but it will not be widely used due to regulatory requirements, that is, due to the opposition of government authorities representing the requirements.

You're right about that, although I can't think of any other Way of doing Things like this With more anonymity, because now IDon't think the Casinos die much because they have an interest in the privacy of the People , Basically what Interests them is that they They continue to register complaints and continue playing on their platforms, there is Nothing to do with complying with the regulations and regulations that the Governments Impose on them , they are Going to continue there , because they are Interested in that, now a casino that is committed to this problem and wants to get out of this quickly, well it Would be the other Option , but how Else could they do it ? The regulations , the KYC, the problem even with the Casinos that do not Accept VPNs is already quite big , I would Bbelieve that things can sometimes be complicated to do, so I Think that when it comes to doing something, you Can think about those Options , that's it there is a lot to talk About , as Long as they do not Have their Business model and it is not Affected I think they will not do much , I think it would be a Matter of waiting to see what Happens.

I write quite a lot and often here on our forum about how KYC when it comes to cryptocurrency payments is evil and is unacceptable in the future.  A person, including a casino player, should not endlessly send his personal data anywhere and to anyone.  And it is unknown why this is being done.  And the requirements for storing this personal data are not met everywhere.  And the more we discuss here that KYC is evil, the more our colleagues on the forum will be inspired by this idea and I hope they will increasingly ignore services with mandatory KYC.  And after some time, such services will discover an outflow of clients precisely because of the refusal of KYC and because of the presence of alternative competitors without the KYC requirement.  

So by discussing this topic we perform a socially useful function.  
At least that's what I think.

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