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September 13, 2023, 01:44:10 PM
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In the quest for achieving success and profitability, investors must navigate a vast landscape of companies striving to secure a dominant position in the market. Amidst this frenetic competition, one crucial element emerges as paramount: liquidity. Liquidity plays a pivotal role in the realm of investments, and this holds true even within the gambling industry. Companies boasting high liquidity possess the capacity to adeptly respond to shifting market dynamics, rendering them more robust and attractive to investors in search of both stability and growth.

In this article, I will present to you the top 10 most liquid companies in the gambling industry. My analysis was conducted based on the Financial Index, which tracks the stock performance of 40 publicly traded companies in the gambling industry, encompassing various forms of online gambling, such as casino games, sports betting, poker, bingo, lotteries, and more. The index employs a market capitalization-weighted methodology and is adjusted semi-annually to account for market changes and the diversification of companies' activities in the gambling sector.

Top 10 companies

PhilWeb
Corporation is a prominent gaming company based in the Philippines. Established in 2000, the company specializes in providing e-gaming solutions and services to various online and land-based gaming operators in the country. One of the significant aspects that set PhilWeb apart is its digital platform that enables gaming operators to offer a diverse range of casino games, such as slots, table games, and lottery products, to their customers. This platform leverages advanced technology and robust security measures to ensure a safe and seamless gaming experience for players.      

For PhilWeb Corporation, the number of outstanding shares stands at an impressive 1,435,776,680. As of the latest data available, PhilWeb Corporation boasts an impressive average trading volume of 727,878,914.  This robust trading activity reflects the company's prominence and investor interest in the gaming sector in the Philippines.

SJM Holdings Limited
SJM Holdings Limited - a major player in China's gambling industry. With 7,040,000,000 outstanding shares and an average trading volume of 18,569,762, it enjoys a strong market presence. Operating in Macau, it offers diverse gaming options and focuses on top-notch experiences. A compelling choice for investors in the booming gambling and entertainment sector.

Sinopharm Tech Holdings Ltd
Sinopharm Tech Holdings Ltd, headquartered in China, is a notable company in the gambling industry. With 4,590,000,000 outstanding shares and an average trading volume of 15,780,000, it commands a significant market presence. As an investor, this company presents an enticing opportunity in the vibrant and dynamic world of gambling and entertainment.

DraftKings
DraftKings, based in the USA, is a prominent player in the gambling industry. With 451,630,000 outstanding shares and an average trading volume of 13,301,832, it showcases a strong market presence. As an investor, this company presents an exciting prospect in the thriving landscape of gambling and entertainment in the United States.

The Star Entertainment Group
The Star Entertainment Group, headquartered in Australia, is a significant player in the gambling industry. Boasting 947,990,000 outstanding shares and an average trading volume of 11,122,637, it holds a robust market presence. For investors seeking opportunities in the Australian gambling and entertainment sector, this company stands out as an appealing option.

Tabcorp Holdings Limited
Tabcorp Holdings Limited, based in Australia, is a prominent player in the gambling industry. With 2,250,000,000 outstanding shares and an average trading volume of 10,659,072, the company demonstrates a substantial market presence. Investors looking for potential prospects in the Australian gambling and entertainment sector may find Tabcorp Holdings Limited an intriguing choice.

Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited
Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited, a major player in China's gambling industry, possesses 4,360,000,000 outstanding shares and an average trading volume of 9,861,324. With a strong market presence, the company presents an alluring option for investors exploring opportunities in the thriving Chinese gambling and entertainment sector.

Las Vegas Sands Corp
Las Vegas Sands Corp, headquartered in the United States, is a prominent company in the gambling industry. With 763,989,752 outstanding shares and an average trading volume of 4,971,991, the company demonstrates a significant market presence. Investors seeking exposure to the US gambling and entertainment market may find Las Vegas Sands Corp an enticing choice.

MGM Resorts International
MGM Resorts International, a major player based in the USA, boasts 373,913,450 outstanding shares in stock and an average trading volume of 4,265,278. With a solid market presence, this company offers investors a compelling opportunity in the vibrant and dynamic world of the US gambling and entertainment industry.

BetMakers Technology Group
BetMakers Technology Group, headquartered in Australia, is a noteworthy company in the gambling industry. It holds 942,050,000 outstanding shares in stock and experiences an average trading volume of 4,196,605. With a robust market presence, BetMakers Technology Group presents an attractive prospect for investors seeking opportunities in the Australian gambling and technology sector.

Factors Driving Investor Interest in These Gambling Companies

These gambling companies have captivated investors for a multitude of compelling reasons, making them alluring prospects in the ever-evolving world of gambling. Let's delve into the core factors that have beckoned investors to place their wagers on these industry giants.

Unprecedented Demand and Popularity:
Companies such as BetMakers Technology Group, MGM Resorts International, and Las Vegas Sands Corp have achieved remarkable liquidity by drawing in a vast player base. Their extraordinary gaming offerings, alluring bonuses, and diverse entertainment options set them apart, continuously stoking investor interest.

Pioneering Innovation and Technology:
Enterprises like BetMakers Technology Group and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited are actively channeling investments into cutting-edge digital technologies, catering to tech-savvy, forward-thinking customers. Incorporating artificial intelligence, blockchain advancements, and enhanced online platforms has not only expanded their customer base but also bolstered liquidity.

Global Footprint:
With extensive networks of casinos and entertainment complexes spanning various countries, companies such as Las Vegas Sands Corp and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited have established diverse investor bases and stable stock liquidity.

Commitment to Transparency and Accountability:   
Firms like MGM Resorts International place paramount importance on transparent operations and their fiduciary duty to players and investors. This steadfast commitment builds trust and sustains long-term stock liquidity.

Internationally Acclaimed Brands:
Companies like BetMakers Technology Group and MGM Resorts International have cemented their status as global brands with stellar reputations and massive followings. Their worldwide recognition draws investors from across the globe, ensuring robust liquidity and consistent stock growth.

Strategic Market Expansion:
BetMakers Technology Group, Las Vegas Sands Corp, and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited are actively pursuing market expansion strategies, igniting interest from international investors and consequently boosting stock liquidity. Through strategic partnerships, acquisitions, and market entry into various regions, these companies are solidifying their positions in the global gambling landscape.

For instance, BetMakers Technology Group is ambitiously expanding into Asian, European, and American markets, providing worldwide access to its innovative products and solutions. Meanwhile, Las Vegas Sands Corp and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited are trailblazing by establishing lavish casino resorts in countries such as China, Singapore, South Korea, and others. This geographic expansion attracts both local patrons and a plethora of foreign guests and investors, thereby elevating the liquidity of these companies' stocks.

In summation, the fervor to expand into global markets propels BetMakers Technology Group, Las Vegas Sands Corp, and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited into the upper echelons of attractiveness for investors seeking maximum liquidity and growth potential within the rapidly evolving gambling industry.

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September 13, 2023, 01:56:57 PM
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In the quest for achieving success and profitability, investors must navigate a vast landscape of companies striving to secure a dominant position in the market. Amidst this frenetic competition, one crucial element emerges as paramount: liquidity. Liquidity plays a pivotal role in the realm of investments, and this holds true even within the gambling industry. Companies boasting high liquidity possess the capacity to adeptly respond to shifting market dynamics, rendering them more robust and attractive to investors in search of both stability and growth.

Please is there a source link to these list or you just crack them from your own research and we also have to understand the parameter used in gathering these one up to make the list of the top liquidity gambling platforms, when it comes to liquidity, there are many gambling platforms that could stand in place to contest for these because gambling industries are not what we can look with an ordinary eye like that, they have many giant influencers backing up their operations from across the world and it they make money as well from it.

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September 13, 2023, 02:00:31 PM
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Are these all offline casinos if I understood correctly which makes no point in posting here as no one of us would be that much interested to join any of such company since many of them are either in the USA or China.The people here are only interested in online gambling,99% of us I am sure love playing online in our usual websites which dominate the Gambling section with their really long and big ANN threads.

As for those mentioned here as much as I learned some new facts in reality these facts will never serve me for any purpose,so most likely you won't get that much responses for these "companies".

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September 13, 2023, 02:24:30 PM
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You should lock your another thread in the Off-Topic which have the same title : The most liquid companies in the gambling industry
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September 13, 2023, 02:45:21 PM
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I don't really have time to run a check of this article wether or not it have some AI contributions to it,  and secondly ops already has an open thread which is a duplicate of this,  I don't know whether Ops is ignorant of his actions,  because should this a deliberate act,  it should not be allow here and the thread should be reported so that it can get deleted.

Back to the topic,  all the companies listed by the ops are all unfamiliar and offline companies and also don't have any presence here in the forum,  and that could make it hard for members of the forum to contribute to the discussions.
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For a moment, I'm thinking if op wants users here to invest in such gambling company not known here. First, if that is the case I don't know if gambling corporation are existing to fund casinos or something? I don't know if they are in stock trading and I don't think buying such stock is encouraging, maybe I'm thinking aloud but I don't know the purpose of the post.

Members here are interested in casinos and how to get the best benefit from them.

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Members here are interested in casinos and how to get the best benefit from them.
Especially those with good offers in terms of bonuses and benefits in their casino like NO KYC option. Most gamblers here tend to look out for casino with many benefits and of course recognise casino not showing casino that are merely known by anyone here and plus the fact that you are being suspicious with your duplicate post of this similar thread makes it a NO NO for people here to get involved with.

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September 13, 2023, 07:24:51 PM
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I thought that you're going to discuss some crypto casinos that will be included in the list. But honestly, only a few of them that I am very familiar with.

Also @OP, it's possible that you have got a source from this list and thread that you have made. If you're not going to include that or this has been generated by an AI, you might have some problems.

But I hope that you didn't yet this is an interesting topic that you've brought and soon someone might make the same topic but dealing with the most liquid crypto casinos.



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September 13, 2023, 07:36:58 PM
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It appears that all the companies listed by the OP don't have a presence in the online gambling industry. I'm not sure where the OP sourced this information, but there are certainly some major players missing from the list that focus on the online casino sector exclusively. For example, just in Europe, some of the major sponsors for prominent football clubs are online casinos, contributing millions of dollars annually to support some of the continent's largest clubs. Take, for example, Bwin, a brand under the Entain Group with shares traded on the London Stock Exchange, or BET365, which, as per the latest data, boasts an annual income in the billions of pounds.


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That's a really long paper you have there. I didn't read the whole thing, but I got the gist. I take it that you're all about liquidity? While discussing Financial Indexes and popular websites like as PhilWeb and DraftKings is fine, let's get straight to the subject. Liquidity is one metric. Have you ever considered how laws operate or how to scale up technology? You didn't, I bet. Expand your investigation if you wish to win over investors. While you're at it, you might want to consider condensing your points  Smiley

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For a moment, I'm thinking if op wants users here to invest in such gambling company not known here. First, if that is the case I don't know if gambling corporation are existing to fund casinos or something? I don't know if they are in stock trading and I don't think buying such stock is encouraging, maybe I'm thinking aloud but I don't know the purpose of the post.

Members here are interested in casinos and how to get the best benefit from them.

I think that having some background knowledge about casinos and the people who invest in them can be very beneficial. Especially for those people, who as you said, are interested in casinos and look for ways to get the most benefits out of them. In such a case, the saying "knowledge is power" rings true, as always.

As far as the casino investors go, I imagine they do lend out money to the casinos in cases of very big wins that the casino alone cannot handle and needs to take out a loan from someone. I am not sure about how far stocks go or if casino companies are even allowed to issue stocks, but I imagine that if they are, then the stocks can be quite profitable, as well. Its logical enough. But all my guesswork.

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That’s a good list and its good to know that those companies are liquid which means they can pay the reward they have offered. Wondering as well if we have this kind of data with crypto casinos since we are more concern of this as we are in a crypto forum. Big investors are also with those casinos as they believed a more profit on this kind if business, if the crypto casinos will be more transparent then it might attract more investors and fresh money from the outside.

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In this article, I will present to you the top 10 most liquid companies in the gambling industry. My analysis was conducted based on the Financial Index, which tracks the stock performance of 40 publicly traded companies in the gambling industry, encompassing various forms of online gambling, such as casino games, sports betting, poker, bingo, lotteries, and more. The index employs a market capitalization-weighted methodology and is adjusted semi-annually to account for market changes and the diversification of companies' activities in the gambling sector.
In all you said @ O.P, I must boldly say that this information is still not complete, because you failed to use the right word, and by that I mean "stock" several times in this thread of yours, because if not that I visited the link which you provided above, I never would have known these companies that you mentioned above are 10 joint stock companies that operate in the iGaming industry, where stock has a very high liquidity, and reason why it is a good option for investment, instead of mere gambling.

So please @ O.P, the use of right terms when passing an information matters the most.

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The index that you used doesn't seem to provide the list of companies that were tracked by it. Where did you get the list? Is it paywalled or did you use AI to guess them?

Some descriptions are definitely taken directly from Wikipedia with little to no changes. If anything, I'd argue that a plagiarism case can be made here.

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You should lock your another thread in the Off-Topic which have the same title : The most liquid companies in the gambling industry
You are absolutely right! And I tried to delete 1 of the posts, but the forum won't let me do it. So I just left 2 identical posts in different sections. But today I was advised to change the subject and text of one of the posts if I can't delete them. Which I did

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You should lock your another thread in the Off-Topic which have the same title : The most liquid companies in the gambling industry
You are absolutely right! And I tried to delete 1 of the posts, but the forum won't let me do it. So I just left 2 identical posts in different sections. But today I was advised to change the subject and text of one of the posts if I can't delete them. Which I did

If by any means you couldn't delete the post you wanted to and you don't intend it to be read or contributed to like you made two same post, you can edit it and write (delete). This could enable mod to know you want it deleted. I think that will be better instead of leaving it as post because people may still post there. Or you lock that thread on off topic.

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September 14, 2023, 11:57:59 AM
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You should lock your another thread in the Off-Topic which have the same title : The most liquid companies in the gambling industry
You are absolutely right! And I tried to delete 1 of the posts, but the forum won't let me do it. So I just left 2 identical posts in different sections. But today I was advised to change the subject and text of one of the posts if I can't delete them. Which I did

If by any means you couldn't delete the post you wanted to and you don't intend it to be read or contributed to like you made two same post, you can edit it and write (delete). This could enable mod to know you want it deleted. I think that will be better instead of leaving it as post because people may still post there. Or you lock that thread on off topic.

To lock the thread, click at the topic and scroll to the buttom left of your gadget and you see lock topic.
Thanks, I fixed it

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The index that you used doesn't seem to provide the list of companies that were tracked by it. Where did you get the list? Is it paywalled or did you use AI to guess them?

We collect all publicly available information about 40 major companies in various industries, in this case, gambling. The link I provided leads to a calendar where we display all significant events related to these companies. Based on these metrics, we construct our financial index, which can fluctuate due to various events within the company
Some descriptions are definitely taken directly from Wikipedia with little to no changes. If anything, I'd argue that a plagiarism case can be made here.

Wikipedia is a free and accessible source of information. It was created for people to use open information

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Some descriptions are definitely taken directly from Wikipedia with little to no changes. If anything, I'd argue that a plagiarism case can be made here.

Wikipedia is a free and accessible source of information. It was created for people to use open information

Although you are right, the general rule on the Internet mandates to mention the sources you took the information from. That's common knowledge. But, in case you don't know the specific rules of this forum, not doing it can lead to a ban due to plagiarism, as joniboini said before.

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Some descriptions are definitely taken directly from Wikipedia with little to no changes. If anything, I'd argue that a plagiarism case can be made here.

Wikipedia is a free and accessible source of information. It was created for people to use open information

I don't want to turn this into another thread about plagiarism and why it is immoral to use other people's content without crediting the original author. If you are a professional, you should already know this.

I would just like to point out Wikipedia's terms of use:

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September 19, 2023, 04:16:32 PM
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That’s a good list and its good to know that those companies are liquid which means they can pay the reward they have offered. Wondering as well if we have this kind of data with crypto casinos since we are more concern of this as we are in a crypto forum. Big investors are also with those casinos as they believed a more profit on this kind if business, if the crypto casinos will be more transparent then it might attract more investors and fresh money from the outside.
I am sure that there are, and it would be better if this is the ones that the @OP have shared because we are indeed on a cryptocurrency forum. Cryptos are full of potential so yeah investors are also here.

Many crypto casinos are transparent because they are centralized, and that is why they are more successful than the decentralized ones. Being decentralized still has its own advantages. One of it provides full anonymity and there are still lots of people who prefer it so investors might also want to check them out. Why pick one only if they can be able to invest on both types of casinos? That should gave them a much better income.

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I'd thought I'll see some crypto gambling projects or companies that are liquid in this post but sadly it's not. Well, I think it's good to know if a crypto gambling projects or companies will be listed here since we're more focus on that in this forum. Will gonna wait until that's done, I'd probably think Rollbit is one on the list.
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I'd thought I'll see some crypto gambling projects or companies that are liquid in this post but sadly it's not. Well, I think it's good to know if a crypto gambling projects or companies will be listed here since we're more focus on that in this forum. Will gonna wait until that's done, I'd probably think Rollbit is one on the list.

We can't tell maybe OP may decided to  include the ones on this forum or not because for someone like me, i hardly find any of his list familiar to me, maybe he can update later on, but to cap the whole thing with the summary, gambling platforms in general have enough liquids, it takes money to start one and also huge finances to maintain any, this is all a constant thing to do, thry also make their own money, but i think here we should be more focused on how reputable they are than how bouyant is their liquid to maintain a stay in operations.

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url=https://data40.com/fiiGd40/]Financial Index[/url],
The link you provided is telling me different thing. There is no list of casinos in the link. And the companies you provided are not familiar, they are all new to me. Are you sure those casinos are working perfectly? Aside from the once you mentioned we have nice and reputable casinos in the forum which are reliable with without fear. But this your casinos are not really encouraging me to visit and another you would have not is to add the link of each casino for use to access it easily.









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I do see the point, the casinos should ask for KYC records or say that if the KYC is Requested to be Able to withdraw the money , whether I am lazy or not, that is my problem, a casino cannot force me to do things that I never do It's easier for them to place a Notice than for them to get an unpleasant surprise, why? to get through the worst times? then to refuse to search for documents just to get the money? why don't they do it or say it before, that they say that they have to do the KYC if they want to withdraw the money, all the casinos now have that custom, because it doesn't hurt that one only does it or Says it, so that the clinetes so fast.


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I do see the point, the casinos should ask for KYC records or say that if the KYC is Requested to be Able to withdraw the money , whether I am lazy or not, that is my problem, a casino cannot force me to do things that I never do It's easier for them to place a Notice than for them to get an unpleasant surprise, why? to get through the worst times? then to refuse to search for documents just to get the money? why don't they do it or say it before, that they say that they have to do the KYC if they want to withdraw the money, all the casinos now have that custom, because it doesn't hurt that one only does it or Says it, so that the clinetes so fast.



It is really annoying and you'd do well to keep away from sites that start getting a reputation for KYCing customers to death when it comes to get their earnings back. It is just a cheap trick, since if there is actually any incompliance with the customer they cannot take the money in the first place. I wonder if there is any way of formally suing them or reporting to a regulator, since they have accepted money without asking questions first.

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I'd thought I'll see some crypto gambling projects or companies that are liquid in this post but sadly it's not. Well, I think it's good to know if a crypto gambling projects or companies will be listed here since we're more focus on that in this forum. Will gonna wait until that's done, I'd probably think Rollbit is one on the list.
We can't tell maybe OP may decided to  include the ones on this forum or not because for someone like me, i hardly find any of his list familiar to me, maybe he can update later on, but to cap the whole thing with the summary, gambling platforms in general have enough liquids, it takes money to start one and also huge finances to maintain any, this is all a constant thing to do, thry also make their own money, but i think here we should be more focused on how reputable they are than how bouyant is their liquid to maintain a stay in operations.
Well, I'm not that of a gambler person myself or if I am I think I will may not be familiar on any of these companies as well. For me knowing that they are publicly liquid for the gamblers to know is saying that they are reputable but that's a two edge sword though because we will never know internally on how they really operate. I even see reputable casinos that end up gone without a trace.
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I have only heard of a few of the company names, such as Draftkings, Las Vegas Sands, and MGM Resorts. But I don't know how the company is and how good the company is. Maybe it's because these companies are offline casino companies so I don't know much about each company. But I am sure that each company will want to expand its business to other countries, especially to countries that support gambling. I was only interested in investing in those companies but then, I thought that it would require a lot of money to become one of the shareholders. So I don't intend to continue because I don't have much money. I'd rather just be a bitcoin investor Grin

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September 21, 2023, 09:02:05 PM
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I'd thought I'll see some crypto gambling projects or companies that are liquid in this post but sadly it's not. Well, I think it's good to know if a crypto gambling projects or companies will be listed here since we're more focus on that in this forum. Will gonna wait until that's done, I'd probably think Rollbit is one on the list.

We can't tell maybe OP may decided to  include the ones on this forum or not because for someone like me, i hardly find any of his list familiar to me, maybe he can update later on, but to cap the whole thing with the summary, gambling platforms in general have enough liquids, it takes money to start one and also huge finances to maintain any, this is all a constant thing to do, thry also make their own money, but i think here we should be more focused on how reputable they are than how bouyant is their liquid to maintain a stay in operations.

Things can easily be confused with the word, for me the word Liquid in a casino, or in a company means that they are quite profitable, that they have a trustworthy company, that they can do things that others, no, that they have a wing reputation and that above all in these casinos there are always winners, that is what I see as liquid, where it does not have any type of problem, of course for some it can represent clarity and liquidity with a bank or something like that, however for me from the From the point of view, a casino that is full or complete is one that does not have any type of problem when it comes to meeting the payment of a player, that does not invent any type of excuse, that is the only thing I understand how a liquid casino, For me, things are quite strong when some problems arise that cannot be solved by a swan, in a thread I was talking about the vulnerablities of the casinos, and that in this part it is really stupid of them, because someone who programs a casino must know, take into consideration that things can be ugly when there is a type of abuse, but abuses in faucts, in multi-accounts, but this is partly the fault of the casino itself, because the casino is the one that allows these vulnerable things, I like give the example of fereebitco.in where they have their faucet still active, where users can make whatever accounts they want, what is necessary is to play, so they are not suffering from system abuse, or abuse of multi-accounts, or abuse of facutes, as they had Before, some casinos, I even dare to say Betfury, in its beginnings, put the faucet with less reward, but in a disproportionate way, so why does this happen? 'Because normally things in these casinos are not done well from the beginning.'

So for me basically a casino that is liquid or complete is stake.com, bitcasino.io, duelbits, among others, because they are casinos that have not presented draas where they say that they are vulnerable, that they have gone through some tough processes but that they are in front of everything.

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September 22, 2023, 06:43:22 AM
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I'd thought I'll see some crypto gambling projects or companies that are liquid in this post but sadly it's not. Well, I think it's good to know if a crypto gambling projects or companies will be listed here since we're more focus on that in this forum. Will gonna wait until that's done, I'd probably think Rollbit is one on the list.

We can't tell maybe OP may decided to  include the ones on this forum or not because for someone like me, i hardly find any of his list familiar to me, maybe he can update later on, but to cap the whole thing with the summary, gambling platforms in general have enough liquids, it takes money to start one and also huge finances to maintain any, this is all a constant thing to do, thry also make their own money, but i think here we should be more focused on how reputable they are than how bouyant is their liquid to maintain a stay in operations.

Things can easily be confused with the word, for me the word Liquid in a casino, or in a company means that they are quite profitable, that they have a trustworthy company, that they can do things that others, no, that they have a wing reputation and that above all in these casinos there are always winners, that is what I see as liquid, where it does not have any type of problem, of course for some it can represent clarity and liquidity with a bank or something like that, however for me from the From the point of view, a casino that is full or complete is one that does not have any type of problem when it comes to meeting the payment of a player, that does not invent any type of excuse, that is the only thing I understand how a liquid casino, For me, things are quite strong when some problems arise that cannot be solved by a swan, in a thread I was talking about the vulnerablities of the casinos, and that in this part it is really stupid of them, because someone who programs a casino must know, take into consideration that things can be ugly when there is a type of abuse, but abuses in faucts, in multi-accounts, but this is partly the fault of the casino itself, because the casino is the one that allows these vulnerable things, I like give the example of fereebitco.in where they have their faucet still active, where users can make whatever accounts they want, what is necessary is to play, so they are not suffering from system abuse, or abuse of multi-accounts, or abuse of facutes, as they had Before, some casinos, I even dare to say Betfury, in its beginnings, put the faucet with less reward, but in a disproportionate way, so why does this happen? 'Because normally things in these casinos are not done well from the beginning.'

So for me basically a casino that is liquid or complete is stake.com, bitcasino.io, duelbits, among others, because they are casinos that have not presented draas where they say that they are vulnerable, that they have gone through some tough processes but that they are in front of everything.

Your interpretation of the term "liquid" in the context of casinos is fascinating. Your perspective goes beyond financial stability to include a casino's operational integrity and reputation. I completely agree with what you said. A casino's ability to promptly and transparently handle payments is important. It's discouraging to see casinos struggle in this area, especially when their failures can be attributable to their own poor planning or feature implementation. You bring up freebitco.in, which demonstrates a sensible approach to faucets that many others are unable to accomplish. I have noticed that casinos, like Betfury, often launch with grandiose features, but later give in to abuse and make hasty changes to their products. Stake.com, bitcasino.io, and duelbits have indeed set standards. It's not only about fancy user interfaces; it's about strength of character and a never-ending commitment to the satisfaction of the game's audience. Would any casino not put these qualities first? Well, from the beginning, they are doomed

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I'd thought I'll see some crypto gambling projects or companies that are liquid in this post but sadly it's not. Well, I think it's good to know if a crypto gambling projects or companies will be listed here since we're more focus on that in this forum. Will gonna wait until that's done, I'd probably think Rollbit is one on the list.

We can't tell maybe OP may decided to  include the ones on this forum or not because for someone like me, i hardly find any of his list familiar to me, maybe he can update later on, but to cap the whole thing with the summary, gambling platforms in general have enough liquids, it takes money to start one and also huge finances to maintain any, this is all a constant thing to do, thry also make their own money, but i think here we should be more focused on how reputable they are than how bouyant is their liquid to maintain a stay in operations.

Things can easily be confused with the word, for me the word Liquid in a casino, or in a company means that they are quite profitable, that they have a trustworthy company, that they can do things that others, no, that they have a wing reputation and that above all in these casinos there are always winners, that is what I see as liquid, where it does not have any type of problem, of course for some it can represent clarity and liquidity with a bank or something like that, however for me from the From the point of view, a casino that is full or complete is one that does not have any type of problem when it comes to meeting the payment of a player, that does not invent any type of excuse, that is the only thing I understand how a liquid casino, For me, things are quite strong when some problems arise that cannot be solved by a swan, in a thread I was talking about the vulnerablities of the casinos, and that in this part it is really stupid of them, because someone who programs a casino must know, take into consideration that things can be ugly when there is a type of abuse, but abuses in faucts, in multi-accounts, but this is partly the fault of the casino itself, because the casino is the one that allows these vulnerable things, I like give the example of fereebitco.in where they have their faucet still active, where users can make whatever accounts they want, what is necessary is to play, so they are not suffering from system abuse, or abuse of multi-accounts, or abuse of facutes, as they had Before, some casinos, I even dare to say Betfury, in its beginnings, put the faucet with less reward, but in a disproportionate way, so why does this happen? 'Because normally things in these casinos are not done well from the beginning.'

So for me basically a casino that is liquid or complete is stake.com, bitcasino.io, duelbits, among others, because they are casinos that have not presented draas where they say that they are vulnerable, that they have gone through some tough processes but that they are in front of everything.

Your interpretation of the term "liquid" in the context of casinos is fascinating. Your perspective goes beyond financial stability to include a casino's operational integrity and reputation. I completely agree with what you said. A casino's ability to promptly and transparently handle payments is important. It's discouraging to see casinos struggle in this area, especially when their failures can be attributable to their own poor planning or feature implementation. You bring up freebitco.in, which demonstrates a sensible approach to faucets that many others are unable to accomplish. I have noticed that casinos, like Betfury, often launch with grandiose features, but later give in to abuse and make hasty changes to their products. Stake.com, bitcasino.io, and duelbits have indeed set standards. It's not only about fancy user interfaces; it's about strength of character and a never-ending commitment to the satisfaction of the game's audience. Would any casino not put these qualities first? Well, from the beginning, they are doomed
Basically a company can be quite good if things in terms of liquidity were only limited to the financial part, because the financial part is what everyone associates with liquidity , if I use the casino Betgfury as an example, because they have a gold mine there, they do nothing but that , so having a gold mine and not taking advantage of it is like having a treasure in the wrong hands, they are in a market where they have not done so badly , as to think that things can go wrong Control, yes, the Bitcoin market is Somewhat low, but what? They have to Concentrate on giving fluids to that token, through contests, through many things to be able to encourage people to Buy it , I don't know why now with such great support a project like a casino doesn't take advantage. things are the way they are and they are letting it die little by little, I love the passive crypto program, just to have the tokens in Hodl mode, but it is not enough, there are other ways to attract people to Buy the tokens I think it's Great.

When I entered this world of crypto I have always been fascinated by everything that has to do with the main things they offer, when they talk to me about tokens, what I see is a lot of money in the market and that they can do things that cause a mistake, As long as things exist, there will or will be a way to emerge, but you have to work on it, you have to be able to do it where you can, then stay stagnant and depend only on others to make decisions, because it's something that doesn't seem good to me, How many people don't want to have the development that Betfury has had just with its tokens? How much money can they not get out of it? e smuchs, but put it in a centralized exchange because it is or will give it life, I have seen how some tokens go to the ground for not putting it in the corresponding exchanges, so the inclusion of a good exchange would give more liquidity to the Token , casino , you would have a Complete Company with Income all the Time.

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September 26, 2023, 02:48:17 PM
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Maybe we should take it from the general approach and perspective, are the gambling platforms having enough liquidity not failing along the way, are they not been attacked, are there bot scam related cases associated with them, it's not about having money alone, it takes an effective management and plans to ensure that what you're spending money on is really showing and worth receiving your steady funds, if not, when the strike arrives and they got hacked, everything about them went down altogether, so in this, if you have enough liquidity to maintain a functioning gambling casino, then try as much as possible to be experienced in this field and maintain a professional and standard security measures no matter how it could cost, this will ensure all you've vested efforts on not to go waste.



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September 26, 2023, 06:08:08 PM
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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

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September 26, 2023, 06:26:32 PM
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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

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In the quest for achieving success and profitability, investors must navigate a vast landscape of companies striving to secure a dominant position in the market. Amidst this frenetic competition, one crucial element emerges as paramount: liquidity. Liquidity plays a pivotal role in the realm of investments, and this holds true even within the gambling industry. Companies boasting high liquidity possess the capacity to adeptly respond to shifting market dynamics, rendering them more robust and attractive to investors in search of both stability and growth.

In this article, I will present to you the top 10 most liquid companies in the gambling industry. My analysis was conducted based on the Financial Index, which tracks the stock performance of 40 publicly traded companies in the gambling industry, encompassing various forms of online gambling, such as casino games, sports betting, poker, bingo, lotteries, and more. The index employs a market capitalization-weighted methodology and is adjusted semi-annually to account for market changes and the diversification of companies' activities in the gambling sector.

Factors Driving Investor Interest in These Gambling Companies

These gambling companies have captivated investors for a multitude of compelling reasons, making them alluring prospects in the ever-evolving world of gambling. Let's delve into the core factors that have beckoned investors to place their wagers on these industry giants.

Unprecedented Demand and Popularity:
Companies such as BetMakers Technology Group, MGM Resorts International, and Las Vegas Sands Corp have achieved remarkable liquidity by drawing in a vast player base. Their extraordinary gaming offerings, alluring bonuses, and diverse entertainment options set them apart, continuously stoking investor interest.

Pioneering Innovation and Technology:
Enterprises like BetMakers Technology Group and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited are actively channeling investments into cutting-edge digital technologies, catering to tech-savvy, forward-thinking customers. Incorporating artificial intelligence, blockchain advancements, and enhanced online platforms has not only expanded their customer base but also bolstered liquidity.

Global Footprint:
With extensive networks of casinos and entertainment complexes spanning various countries, companies such as Las Vegas Sands Corp and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited have established diverse investor bases and stable stock liquidity.

Commitment to Transparency and Accountability:   
Firms like MGM Resorts International place paramount importance on transparent operations and their fiduciary duty to players and investors. This steadfast commitment builds trust and sustains long-term stock liquidity.

Internationally Acclaimed Brands:
Companies like BetMakers Technology Group and MGM Resorts International have cemented their status as global brands with stellar reputations and massive followings. Their worldwide recognition draws investors from across the globe, ensuring robust liquidity and consistent stock growth.

Strategic Market Expansion:
BetMakers Technology Group, Las Vegas Sands Corp, and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited are actively pursuing market expansion strategies, igniting interest from international investors and consequently boosting stock liquidity. Through strategic partnerships, acquisitions, and market entry into various regions, these companies are solidifying their positions in the global gambling landscape.

For instance, BetMakers Technology Group is ambitiously expanding into Asian, European, and American markets, providing worldwide access to its innovative products and solutions. Meanwhile, Las Vegas Sands Corp and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited are trailblazing by establishing lavish casino resorts in countries such as China, Singapore, South Korea, and others. This geographic expansion attracts both local patrons and a plethora of foreign guests and investors, thereby elevating the liquidity of these companies' stocks.

In summation, the fervor to expand into global markets propels BetMakers Technology Group, Las Vegas Sands Corp, and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited into the upper echelons of attractiveness for investors seeking maximum liquidity and growth potential within the rapidly evolving gambling industry.

It's interesting to see this list for sure, however it seems very geared towards the Asia Pacific region when there are plenty of large betting groups based in placed like the UK and Europe. Liquidity is a pretty dumb metric to go on, because it is not necessarily reflective of anything and poor for comparison purposes. You could have one company with a share priced at 1 cent compared to a company with a share price of $10 - you'd see 1000 shares of the first company changing hands compared to 1 of the second company, it doesn't make it more valuable in any way. BetMakers Technology Group is tiny, almost insignificant with a market cap of $93 million when there are companies in Europe with $5+ billion market caps not even mentioned.

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September 26, 2023, 08:21:18 PM
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I don't really have time to run a check of this article wether or not it have some AI contributions to it,  and secondly ops already has an open thread which is a duplicate of this,  I don't know whether Ops is ignorant of his actions,  because should this a deliberate act,  it should not be allow here and the thread should be reported so that it can get deleted.

Back to the topic,  all the companies listed by the ops are all unfamiliar and offline companies and also don't have any presence here in the forum,  and that could make it hard for members of the forum to contribute to the discussions.
I'd say it's almost 100% AI IMO. As soon as I opened it and seen the format I felt like there was no way it isn't AI. You also make a great point about the companies listed have nothing to do with the forum. We can discuss the topic, but there really is no added value to the forum.

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September 26, 2023, 08:32:31 PM
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I got attractwd to the thread by the title and i was kooking to see something that relates to casinos liqudities because that is one area that we have not really looked at in our various discussions and as that we have to pay close attention to how much liqudities that a casino have in the hot wallet because by so doing we tend to build some form of trust within ourselves and that wil push us further.


Take for example,  the recent case with one of the big casinos that we have around, where the hot wallet was compromised and millions in dollars was taken away by the hackers, so knowing casinos real liquitieis could become a great base towards building gamblers' trust.

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September 27, 2023, 05:46:12 AM
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Ok, so you quoted the exact content from Wikipedia and you did not provide the source... (which you say, is not necessary.. because it is public domain)  Roll Eyes We might differ from you, because we want to see the source... it is causing a lot of speculation regarding the possibility that you used AI to create it... and that would have been prevented, if you posted the source.

Also, posting content that are not really linked to Crypto gambling are not constructive to the goal of this forum.... yes, it is gambling related.. but those are brick n mortar casinos with no connection to any Crypto currencies.  Roll Eyes

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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

It's hard to determine which is the most liquid, as we don't have data on the crypto casinos' liquid assets. However, Stake is undoubtedly a major gambling site. The fact that they have been sponsoring big events, such as boxing and even UFC matches, suggests that they have a lot of money to invest. This, in turn, attracts more gamblers.

As a gambling site becomes more popular and reputable, it also instills confidence in high rollers who choose to use the site for their gambling activities.

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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

It's hard to determine which is the most liquid, as we don't have data on the crypto casinos' liquid assets. However, Stake is undoubtedly a major gambling site. The fact that they have been sponsoring big events, such as boxing and even UFC matches, suggests that they have a lot of money to invest. This, in turn, attracts more gamblers.

As a gambling site becomes more popular and reputable, it also instills confidence in high rollers who choose to use the site for their gambling activities.
I think that most likely it is not very easy to determine which casino ranks second, third, and generally several of these most prestigious places. 
First of all, because how will you evaluate the work as a whole, financial turnover, the quality of fulfillment of obligations to clients, players and contractors, financial reserves, pending legal disputes, and so on and so forth.  The fact is that there are many such parameters and therefore I don’t really understand what criteria should be used to determine the sequence of such places in the ratings.  In my opinion, given the conditionally first place you have determined for this casino, there are at least 6 - 8 largest casinos, which are all in the group conditionally occupying second place. 
And I think this will be true in relation to each of the casinos that are conditionally included in this group of the most famous casinos in general in the gambling market

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October 05, 2023, 09:16:23 PM
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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

It's hard to determine which is the most liquid, as we don't have data on the crypto casinos' liquid assets. However, Stake is undoubtedly a major gambling site. The fact that they have been sponsoring big events, such as boxing and even UFC matches, suggests that they have a lot of money to invest. This, in turn, attracts more gamblers.

As a gambling site becomes more popular and reputable, it also instills confidence in high rollers who choose to use the site for their gambling activities.
I think that most likely it is not very easy to determine which casino ranks second, third, and generally several of these most prestigious places. 
First of all, because how will you evaluate the work as a whole, financial turnover, the quality of fulfillment of obligations to clients, players and contractors, financial reserves, pending legal disputes, and so on and so forth.  The fact is that there are many such parameters and therefore I don’t really understand what criteria should be used to determine the sequence of such places in the ratings.  In my opinion, given the conditionally first place you have determined for this casino, there are at least 6 - 8 largest casinos, which are all in the group conditionally occupying second place. 
And I think this will be true in relation to each of the casinos that are conditionally included in this group of the most famous casinos in general in the gambling market

Well, you always get a lot of things when you talk about the top 5, the best places are always the casinos that are most popular and have the highest reputation, personally I have always seen that stake.com has sim, pre first place, they are very rarely placed in 2nd place, much less in third place, for me the criteria that are most taken into consideration are those of the best casino, those that treat customers the best, when they have the highest index of volume of people in the casino, also when it becomes evident that the reputation of the casino is quite high, also if everyone has noticed, when there is a millionaire player and he wins big, they publish it with great pride in the thread Ann, not like Other casinos that when a millionaire wins try to silence him and offer a payment method, or they look for some "buts" to not pay, either with KYC, or they look for some type of suspicious activity, I have seen these things on many occasions, and The truth is that they are casinos that are difficult to trust, they reveal many things.

For these things, casinos like stake.com are an example of a good casino, totally reliable, authentic and can generate very good profits, so when we compare the casinos by pure inspection, we realize that things They are like that, so as time Goes by we could say that what is done is good, the top5 casinos are the ones that one should trust , but it would be excellent if the reviewers agreed that they were all in the top, because I have seen many that They make Shilling that they only advertise so that they can generate Publicity in the forum , something that many of us quickly become aware of, of course those accounts are mostly newbies and it is understood that they enter for that, which is not bad, but a legitimate caisno should have its Own Thread Ann and that they can have a lot of visibility here in the Forum , with the opinion of the DT members on the judgment they Have.

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Amounts like that also underlines the reason why we have KYCs these days at exchanges and casinos. Without regulations and volume like that, it would be rather easy make money laundering more opacue. As one could launder insane amounts of money just in a day and it most likely wouldn't even show up as more volume.

I know some people try to fight this right to the end, but Most likely there will be even more money involved in the future, and fear for getting your identification papers stolen will be gone, after we move to a zero knowledge id solution.

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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

It's hard to determine which is the most liquid, as we don't have data on the crypto casinos' liquid assets. However, Stake is undoubtedly a major gambling site. The fact that they have been sponsoring big events, such as boxing and even UFC matches, suggests that they have a lot of money to invest. This, in turn, attracts more gamblers.

As a gambling site becomes more popular and reputable, it also instills confidence in high rollers who choose to use the site for their gambling activities.
Liquid companies as far as I know are ones which has the money and power to pay any debt. Thus, liquid gambling sites are more likely ones which are popular and I agree with Stake’s advertisement as I saw its logo with Salt Papi which gave me an impression that it has now the power to go mainstream and to cross different industry aside from this one we are interacting of. With this, gambling sites which could be considered as most liquid are more likely ones which are reputable or ones which have established their name already, giving them the power to go outside this industry for promotional matters.I also agrees that luquidity of a company adds credibility on its name. It could give an idea to new ones that “this platform won’t destroy its name for a few dime”.

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October 06, 2023, 01:55:37 AM
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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

It's hard to determine which is the most liquid, as we don't have data on the crypto casinos' liquid assets. However, Stake is undoubtedly a major gambling site. The fact that they have been sponsoring big events, such as boxing and even UFC matches, suggests that they have a lot of money to invest. This, in turn, attracts more gamblers.

As a gambling site becomes more popular and reputable, it also instills confidence in high rollers who choose to use the site for their gambling activities.
Liquid companies as far as I know are ones which has the money and power to pay any debt. Thus, liquid gambling sites are more likely ones which are popular and I agree with Stake’s advertisement as I saw its logo with Salt Papi which gave me an impression that it has now the power to go mainstream and to cross different industry aside from this one we are interacting of. With this, gambling sites which could be considered as most liquid are more likely ones which are reputable or ones which have established their name already, giving them the power to go outside this industry for promotional matters.I also agrees that luquidity of a company adds credibility on its name. It could give an idea to new ones that “this platform won’t destroy its name for a few dime”.
Very common that those traditional gambling companies are really being known when it comes to numbers which considering that everything is something that could really be traced up on which means that they would really be placed up basing up on the ranking but eventually if we do compared it out to those casinos that we do have long time running in crypto space. We cant really be able to say that they arent having that match when it comes to overall revenue and just like as you mentioned which is on Stake on having that kind of big budget when it comes to marketing and this is something that cant be denied basing on what we are seeing. A certain platform that could really go into a certain extent when it comes to marketing which does basically shows that they are earning that much on which they could really be able to spend up that
big when it comes to having ambassadors or having those kind of exposure using up some celebs or known people.

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October 06, 2023, 06:13:13 AM
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Amounts like that also underlines the reason why we have KYCs these days at exchanges and casinos. Without regulations and volume like that, it would be rather easy make money laundering more opacue. As one could launder insane amounts of money just in a day and it most likely wouldn't even show up as more volume.

I know some people try to fight this right to the end, but Most likely there will be even more money involved in the future, and fear for getting your identification papers stolen will be gone, after we move to a zero knowledge id solution.

You know, it's kind of inevitable, buddy. As the crypto gambling industry keeps growing, more money is going to flow in. We're already talking about a billion-dollar industry, and that's like a gold mine for money launderers if they want to clean up their ill-gotten gains.

The most liquid ones are the reputable ones, and that's important because it guarantees they won't have trouble paying out winners and can handle big bets, which boosts their popularity among high rollers.

In the crypto world, we've got our own list, and I've got a few gambling sites in mind that I think are the giants of the industry.

Now, I might be a tad biased since I've promoted them in the past, but I'm being honest here.

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October 06, 2023, 09:49:50 AM
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Very common that those traditional gambling companies are really being known when it comes to numbers which considering that everything is something that could really be traced up on which means that they would really be placed up basing up on the ranking but eventually if we do compared it out to those casinos that we do have long time running in crypto space. We cant really be able to say that they arent having that match when it comes to overall revenue and just like as you mentioned which is on Stake on having that kind of big budget when it comes to marketing and this is something that cant be denied basing on what we are seeing. A certain platform that could really go into a certain extent when it comes to marketing which does basically shows that they are earning that much on which they could really be able to spend up that
big when it comes to having ambassadors or having those kind of exposure using up some celebs or known people.
Number-wise, traditional gaming enterprises are huge. They've created trust and performance over time. However, isn't crypto altering the game fascinating? You're right about stake. Isn't their marketing budget huge? Unless they earned more, why would they spend so much? It shows their success

It's smart for Stake to use celebrities and renowned individuals for promotions, right? Not only money, but strategy. They invest in their brand in addition to spending. Returns? Their popularity and revenue are rising. Really, only traditional corporations are big players anymore? Is it time to recognize that platforms like Stake succeed rather than compete?

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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

It's hard to determine which is the most liquid, as we don't have data on the crypto casinos' liquid assets. However, Stake is undoubtedly a major gambling site. The fact that they have been sponsoring big events, such as boxing and even UFC matches, suggests that they have a lot of money to invest. This, in turn, attracts more gamblers.

As a gambling site becomes more popular and reputable, it also instills confidence in high rollers who choose to use the site for their gambling activities.
I think that most likely it is not very easy to determine which casino ranks second, third, and generally several of these most prestigious places. 
First of all, because how will you evaluate the work as a whole, financial turnover, the quality of fulfillment of obligations to clients, players and contractors, financial reserves, pending legal disputes, and so on and so forth.  The fact is that there are many such parameters and therefore I don’t really understand what criteria should be used to determine the sequence of such places in the ratings.  In my opinion, given the conditionally first place you have determined for this casino, there are at least 6 - 8 largest casinos, which are all in the group conditionally occupying second place. 
And I think this will be true in relation to each of the casinos that are conditionally included in this group of the most famous casinos in general in the gambling market

Well, you always get a lot of things when you talk about the top 5, the best places are always the casinos that are most popular and have the highest reputation, personally I have always seen that stake.com has sim, pre first place, they are very rarely placed in 2nd place, much less in third place, for me the criteria that are most taken into consideration are those of the best casino, those that treat customers the best, when they have the highest index of volume of people in the casino, also when it becomes evident that the reputation of the casino is quite high, also if everyone has noticed, when there is a millionaire player and he wins big, they publish it with great pride in the thread Ann, not like Other casinos that when a millionaire wins try to silence him and offer a payment method, or they look for some "buts" to not pay, either with KYC, or they look for some type of suspicious activity, I have seen these things on many occasions, and The truth is that they are casinos that are difficult to trust, they reveal many things.

For these things, casinos like stake.com are an example of a good casino, totally reliable, authentic and can generate very good profits, so when we compare the casinos by pure inspection, we realize that things They are like that, so as time Goes by we could say that what is done is good, the top5 casinos are the ones that one should trust , but it would be excellent if the reviewers agreed that they were all in the top, because I have seen many that They make Shilling that they only advertise so that they can generate Publicity in the forum , something that many of us quickly become aware of, of course those accounts are mostly newbies and it is understood that they enter for that, which is not bad, but a legitimate caisno should have its Own Thread Ann and that they can have a lot of visibility here in the Forum , with the opinion of the DT members on the judgment they Have.

Perhaps you correctly note that if a millionaire player openly reports that he won a large sum of money and the casino provided him with this large win without any problems, this of course tells us that the casino is reliable and worthy of the highest places in the ranking. 
however, such public announcements of the largest winnings in some cases may be made for advertising purposes, although all people know that big money is almost always transferred quite secretly for the fairly obvious reason of ensuring the safety of its owners.  So such a criterion as open publications about the largest winnings most likely still cannot be considered a weighty argument in compiling ratings of the   best and most reliable casinos. 

But this is what I think, maybe it’s not entirely objective, I admit.

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October 13, 2023, 06:48:00 PM
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Very common that those traditional gambling companies are really being known when it comes to numbers which considering that everything is something that could really be traced up on which means that they would really be placed up basing up on the ranking but eventually if we do compared it out to those casinos that we do have long time running in crypto space. We cant really be able to say that they arent having that match when it comes to overall revenue and just like as you mentioned which is on Stake on having that kind of big budget when it comes to marketing and this is something that cant be denied basing on what we are seeing. A certain platform that could really go into a certain extent when it comes to marketing which does basically shows that they are earning that much on which they could really be able to spend up that
big when it comes to having ambassadors or having those kind of exposure using up some celebs or known people.
Number-wise, traditional gaming enterprises are huge. They've created trust and performance over time. However, isn't crypto altering the game fascinating? You're right about stake. Isn't their marketing budget huge? Unless they earned more, why would they spend so much? It shows their success

It's smart for Stake to use celebrities and renowned individuals for promotions, right? Not only money, but strategy. They invest in their brand in addition to spending. Returns? Their popularity and revenue are rising. Really, only traditional corporations are big players anymore? Is it time to recognize that platforms like Stake succeed rather than compete?

Well, nothing less can be said, Stake.com will always be an Example for many casinos worldwide, because things when it comes to stake.com can be considered the best in the world, because basically things are quite good, there are always the best contests , they have the best Influencers , I think that at stake.com everyone does their part very well, so in this Order of Ideas Things are very Competitive , all the caisnos try to reach the level of stake.com, Well, I Understand them because they have the best reputation, they have the highest Security , even though at one point there was a robbery, the Funds of the most prominent players and Celebrities were never Compromised , these Types of things are what every Player you should see , what I like the most is that the Small Followers are as Important as the big ones, they all get good Treatment, the VIP Levels are working to their maximum, they have many to be sponsors in boxing, UFC, In fútbol, the casino is Among the world's elite of the best.

Now hasn't made much progress, but I think they want to do something very good with poker, a good platform, something different , that's what they want, as they are they can do Something very spectacular, that's what we're used to at stake, .com, then based on all these wonders it is normal that other casinos wanted to imitate them, because things are quite strong Because stake.com is like a titan of the casinos, it is difficult to compare to them, so in this order of Ideas we as Players are always going to choose the best casinos that have more security and Confidence , I personally can say that when you need to have the best of the casinos Without a Doubt I would go for and Choose stake.com , in this order of ideas I would say That the casinos follow because they can Make casino reviewers Available , Who in the beginning will tell the truth, those who are quite Reliable.

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October 18, 2023, 05:58:53 AM
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Very common that those traditional gambling companies are really being known when it comes to numbers which considering that everything is something that could really be traced up on which means that they would really be placed up basing up on the ranking but eventually if we do compared it out to those casinos that we do have long time running in crypto space. We cant really be able to say that they arent having that match when it comes to overall revenue and just like as you mentioned which is on Stake on having that kind of big budget when it comes to marketing and this is something that cant be denied basing on what we are seeing. A certain platform that could really go into a certain extent when it comes to marketing which does basically shows that they are earning that much on which they could really be able to spend up that
big when it comes to having ambassadors or having those kind of exposure using up some celebs or known people.
Number-wise, traditional gaming enterprises are huge. They've created trust and performance over time. However, isn't crypto altering the game fascinating? You're right about stake. Isn't their marketing budget huge? Unless they earned more, why would they spend so much? It shows their success

It's smart for Stake to use celebrities and renowned individuals for promotions, right? Not only money, but strategy. They invest in their brand in addition to spending. Returns? Their popularity and revenue are rising. Really, only traditional corporations are big players anymore? Is it time to recognize that platforms like Stake succeed rather than compete?

Well, nothing less can be said, Stake.com will always be an Example for many casinos worldwide, because things when it comes to stake.com can be considered the best in the world, because basically things are quite good, there are always the best contests , they have the best Influencers , I think that at stake.com everyone does their part very well, so in this Order of Ideas Things are very Competitive , all the caisnos try to reach the level of stake.com, Well, I Understand them because they have the best reputation, they have the highest Security , even though at one point there was a robbery, the Funds of the most prominent players and Celebrities were never Compromised , these Types of things are what every Player you should see , what I like the most is that the Small Followers are as Important as the big ones, they all get good Treatment, the VIP Levels are working to their maximum, they have many to be sponsors in boxing, UFC, In fútbol, the casino is Among the world's elite of the best.

Now hasn't made much progress, but I think they want to do something very good with poker, a good platform, something different , that's what they want, as they are they can do Something very spectacular, that's what we're used to at stake, .com, then based on all these wonders it is normal that other casinos wanted to imitate them, because things are quite strong Because stake.com is like a titan of the casinos, it is difficult to compare to them, so in this order of Ideas we as Players are always going to choose the best casinos that have more security and Confidence , I personally can say that when you need to have the best of the casinos Without a Doubt I would go for and Choose stake.com , in this order of ideas I would say That the casinos follow because they can Make casino reviewers Available , Who in the beginning will tell the truth, those who are quite Reliable.

It's hard to disagree with you.  Indeed, this casino seems to be such a giant in the gambling industry and many people praise the ease of use of this casino, the huge selection of different games and entertainment.  And of course, their budget and turnover are also huge, and these latest hacking troubles went unnoticed by the players, which clearly speaks of a well-organized business and the sustainability of this casino. 

But many players still sometimes get bored with the same casino.  And there are many others, maybe not very large, but also with their own charm and interesting offers. 
For example, the Duelbits.com casino, which has also been present on the gambling market for a long time and is generally successfully used by many players.  And there are also no negative reviews about this casino.  In any case, I have not seen such reviews about any offended players.

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Damn, this is a lot of work, writing all these up isn't easy and unfortunately it's not going to be useful for anyone on here because all these casinos are offline based, I can't leave my country down to another to gamble, they are all good casinos but those who are living close to the casinos or at least in the same country will be easier to pay a visit.

The term king of liquidity sounds like the success behind these casinos, well I think you are right, because every casinos have their weakness and problems, in my country even location based casinos don't pay winners, if the money is very big they always find it hard to pay, the thing is majority of casinos have problems too we just don't see it cos we really can't.

The best successful casinos are online casinos, this is what I believe, because it's been proven in those covid lock down days, many people start trying out online gambling platforms, loads of money are moving into online casinos and location based casinos where shut down, the casino that I really respect the most is stake.com, I believe that this is one of the most successful of them all.

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October 18, 2023, 10:02:39 PM
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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

It's hard to determine which is the most liquid, as we don't have data on the crypto casinos' liquid assets. However, Stake is undoubtedly a major gambling site. The fact that they have been sponsoring big events, such as boxing and even UFC matches, suggests that they have a lot of money to invest. This, in turn, attracts more gamblers.

As a gambling site becomes more popular and reputable, it also instills confidence in high rollers who choose to use the site for their gambling activities.
I think that most likely it is not very easy to determine which casino ranks second, third, and generally several of these most prestigious places. 
First of all, because how will you evaluate the work as a whole, financial turnover, the quality of fulfillment of obligations to clients, players and contractors, financial reserves, pending legal disputes, and so on and so forth.  The fact is that there are many such parameters and therefore I don’t really understand what criteria should be used to determine the sequence of such places in the ratings.  In my opinion, given the conditionally first place you have determined for this casino, there are at least 6 - 8 largest casinos, which are all in the group conditionally occupying second place. 
And I think this will be true in relation to each of the casinos that are conditionally included in this group of the most famous casinos in general in the gambling market

Well, you always get a lot of things when you talk about the top 5, the best places are always the casinos that are most popular and have the highest reputation, personally I have always seen that stake.com has sim, pre first place, they are very rarely placed in 2nd place, much less in third place, for me the criteria that are most taken into consideration are those of the best casino, those that treat customers the best, when they have the highest index of volume of people in the casino, also when it becomes evident that the reputation of the casino is quite high, also if everyone has noticed, when there is a millionaire player and he wins big, they publish it with great pride in the thread Ann, not like Other casinos that when a millionaire wins try to silence him and offer a payment method, or they look for some "buts" to not pay, either with KYC, or they look for some type of suspicious activity, I have seen these things on many occasions, and The truth is that they are casinos that are difficult to trust, they reveal many things.

For these things, casinos like stake.com are an example of a good casino, totally reliable, authentic and can generate very good profits, so when we compare the casinos by pure inspection, we realize that things They are like that, so as time Goes by we could say that what is done is good, the top5 casinos are the ones that one should trust , but it would be excellent if the reviewers agreed that they were all in the top, because I have seen many that They make Shilling that they only advertise so that they can generate Publicity in the forum , something that many of us quickly become aware of, of course those accounts are mostly newbies and it is understood that they enter for that, which is not bad, but a legitimate caisno should have its Own Thread Ann and that they can have a lot of visibility here in the Forum , with the opinion of the DT members on the judgment they Have.

Perhaps you correctly note that if a millionaire player openly reports that he won a large sum of money and the casino provided him with this large win without any problems, this of course tells us that the casino is reliable and worthy of the highest places in the ranking. 
however, such public announcements of the largest winnings in some cases may be made for advertising purposes, although all people know that big money is almost always transferred quite secretly for the fairly obvious reason of ensuring the safety of its owners.  So such a criterion as open publications about the largest winnings most likely still cannot be considered a weighty argument in compiling ratings of the   best and most reliable casinos. 

But this is what I think, maybe it’s not entirely objective, I admit.

Yes, of course, now the marketing, and everything that has great chances of winning, that if you see and be very curious so that many clients are attracted, I admit the truth is how they are capable of doing that type of marketing, because it is true in many Cases. They cause a lot of inspiration, others say that it could be a lie, but at this point a casino like stake.com to make or tell lies I don't think so, however it is good when there are big winners because it is the only way they can see more of them and That they do pay, not like other casinos that always look for many options such as being able to pay the winnings of some players, which seems bad to me, because a player chooses a casino so that he can do things well, and play, lose, but when it comes to winning they have to pay, that is what it should be, because I have not seen that in a casino when a player loses, the casino returns the money, because it considers that the casino had a bug and that is why the casino You should return it, because I am sure that even if a bug has been presented and the money is lost , it will be difficult for the casino to return money, that is something that is difficult to present or do...

For me, a casino that is honest and can present its marketing in a more detailed way, such as through social networks, through a signature campaign, is the safest, because first it is investing in something that at any time will not give money, and secondly eprsona pays because a job is given to it, the traffic that is obtained in a forum like this is unique, it is comprehensive and it is completely legal, it is not traffic through bos or anything like that, it is something that can Normally give good results and obviously the moment you start the results are seen, and that means that marketing in a long-term casino is guaranteed profits in the short, medium and long term, it is something normal and will always happen, which Which seems to me to be Completely legal and should be made as transparent as possible.


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Honestly, I'm not familiar with the company names, although as you have shared, they are the most liquid. We are in the crypto world, so I believe it's more appropriate if you can share the most liquid crypto gambling sites, not the general ones, as most likely, they are dominated by fiat casinos.

Stake.com Crypto Casino Reportedly Hacked for $41.3 Million - https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/stake-com-crypto-casino-reportedly-hacked-for-41-3-million/

Well, a serious amount of money, and it seems like Stake didn't even notice it. I think it speaks to how serious a casino Stake is, and we can only assume how liquid they are when they covered this without any problems. I guess we can say that Stake is the most liquid crypto casino around... but who is in second place, and how far they are from Stake can be interesting to find out.

It's hard to determine which is the most liquid, as we don't have data on the crypto casinos' liquid assets. However, Stake is undoubtedly a major gambling site. The fact that they have been sponsoring big events, such as boxing and even UFC matches, suggests that they have a lot of money to invest. This, in turn, attracts more gamblers.

As a gambling site becomes more popular and reputable, it also instills confidence in high rollers who choose to use the site for their gambling activities.
Liquid companies as far as I know are ones which has the money and power to pay any debt. Thus, liquid gambling sites are more likely ones which are popular and I agree with Stake’s advertisement as I saw its logo with Salt Papi which gave me an impression that it has now the power to go mainstream and to cross different industry aside from this one we are interacting of. With this, gambling sites which could be considered as most liquid are more likely ones which are reputable or ones which have established their name already, giving them the power to go outside this industry for promotional matters.I also agrees that luquidity of a company adds credibility on its name. It could give an idea to new ones that “this platform won’t destroy its name for a few dime”.
I was actually surprised when I read the liquid stuff here but on the second thought anything that has to do with money is liquid but this is rarely used in casinos and sportsbooks. However, one thing I will caution about is for us to avoid believing that liability makes up the integrity of a gambling company. A less liquid gambling company might pay you while the one with higher liquidity dupes you, it happens daily all around us, which is why we should look before liquidity in selecting our casinos and sportsbooks. A good example is the 1xbit that which people were quick to tag their campaigners with a negative trust score. My research of the casinos shows that it's a very well-capitalised ones, but at the same time, they are well known for not paying bettors gains.

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October 19, 2023, 10:47:44 AM
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I was actually surprised when I read the liquid stuff here but on the second thought anything that has to do with money is liquid but this is rarely used in casinos and sportsbooks. However, one thing I will caution about is for us to avoid believing that liability makes up the integrity of a gambling company. A less liquid gambling company might pay you while the one with higher liquidity dupes you, it happens daily all around us, which is why we should look before liquidity in selecting our casinos and sportsbooks. A good example is the 1xbit that which people were quick to tag their campaigners with a negative trust score. My research of the casinos shows that it's a very well-capitalised ones, but at the same time, they are well known for not paying bettors gains.

Strongly Agree!
The need for trust in a gambling firm is beyond the degree of liquidity in the firm's financials. There are loads of illiquid company's who were once liquid, more liquid than the ones currently waving the flag of liquidity. Some liquid companies also with-hold payments through hidden policies and make you feel like you are not deserving of your wins.

I know liquidity is essential as it convinces you that your wins can be paid out but its not the only feature to look out for in gambling firms.

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October 19, 2023, 05:24:56 PM
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I was actually surprised when I read the liquid stuff here but on the second thought anything that has to do with money is liquid but this is rarely used in casinos and sportsbooks. However, one thing I will caution about is for us to avoid believing that liability makes up the integrity of a gambling company. A less liquid gambling company might pay you while the one with higher liquidity dupes you, it happens daily all around us, which is why we should look before liquidity in selecting our casinos and sportsbooks. A good example is the 1xbit that which people were quick to tag their campaigners with a negative trust score. My research of the casinos shows that it's a very well-capitalised ones, but at the same time, they are well known for not paying bettors gains.

Strongly Agree!
The need for trust in a gambling firm is beyond the degree of liquidity in the firm's financials. There are loads of illiquid company's who were once liquid, more liquid than the ones currently waving the flag of liquidity. Some liquid companies also with-hold payments through hidden policies and make you feel like you are not deserving of your wins.

I know liquidity is essential as it convinces you that your wins can be paid out but its not the only feature to look out for in gambling firms.
Financial information in business is often quite unreliable. 
There are many reasons why various organizations associated with financial flows hide the true state of affairs in their finances.  Almost all casinos can be classified not only as part of the gambling industry, but also as financial organizations.  Therefore, information about liquidity itself can also be included.  And it may not be reliable.  And it is absolutely impossible to verify this without an independent audit.  And it is not a fact that the casino, even when conducting some kind of audit, will not hide from the auditors some of its serious and secret financial obligations.  Fo this reason, I believe that liquidities that are publicly reported by casinos may not be a 100% guarantee of fair business practices. 
And a guarantee of paying out a big win to some lucky player. 
Rather, liquidity is something that simply informs you of how the casino chooses to present its financial position to the public. 
And you can only guess for yourself whether this is true or not.

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October 19, 2023, 08:46:08 PM
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I was actually surprised when I read the liquid stuff here but on the second thought anything that has to do with money is liquid but this is rarely used in casinos and sportsbooks. However, one thing I will caution about is for us to avoid believing that liability makes up the integrity of a gambling company. A less liquid gambling company might pay you while the one with higher liquidity dupes you, it happens daily all around us, which is why we should look before liquidity in selecting our casinos and sportsbooks. A good example is the 1xbit that which people were quick to tag their campaigners with a negative trust score. My research of the casinos shows that it's a very well-capitalised ones, but at the same time, they are well known for not paying bettors gains.

Strongly Agree!
The need for trust in a gambling firm is beyond the degree of liquidity in the firm's financials. There are loads of illiquid company's who were once liquid, more liquid than the ones currently waving the flag of liquidity. Some liquid companies also with-hold payments through hidden policies and make you feel like you are not deserving of your wins.

I know liquidity is essential as it convinces you that your wins can be paid out but its not the only feature to look out for in gambling firms.
Financial information in business is often quite unreliable. 
There are many reasons why various organizations associated with financial flows hide the true state of affairs in their finances.  Almost all casinos can be classified not only as part of the gambling industry, but also as financial organizations.  Therefore, information about liquidity itself can also be included.  And it may not be reliable.  And it is absolutely impossible to verify this without an independent audit.  And it is not a fact that the casino, even when conducting some kind of audit, will not hide from the auditors some of its serious and secret financial obligations.  Fo this reason, I believe that liquidities that are publicly reported by casinos may not be a 100% guarantee of fair business practices. 
And a guarantee of paying out a big win to some lucky player. 
Rather, liquidity is something that simply informs you of how the casino chooses to present its financial position to the public. 
And you can only guess for yourself whether this is true or not.

The premise of what you're saying is correct. Off-topic: Use some BBCode to better structure your post, and that would have been a good one! On-topic: Being clandestine is an attribute of casino operations. As delfastTions said, any public information about the liquidity of a casino should be taken with a grain of salt, as the real balance sheet is probably not the one that is publicly displayed.

It'd be good to know how liquid a casino is if you can verify the numbers on-chain, at least for online/crypto casinos could probably do they if they wanted too.
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Very common that those traditional gambling companies are really being known when it comes to numbers which considering that everything is something that could really be traced up on which means that they would really be placed up basing up on the ranking but eventually if we do compared it out to those casinos that we do have long time running in crypto space. We cant really be able to say that they arent having that match when it comes to overall revenue and just like as you mentioned which is on Stake on having that kind of big budget when it comes to marketing and this is something that cant be denied basing on what we are seeing. A certain platform that could really go into a certain extent when it comes to marketing which does basically shows that they are earning that much on which they could really be able to spend up that
big when it comes to having ambassadors or having those kind of exposure using up some celebs or known people.
Number-wise, traditional gaming enterprises are huge. They've created trust and performance over time. However, isn't crypto altering the game fascinating? You're right about stake. Isn't their marketing budget huge? Unless they earned more, why would they spend so much? It shows their success

It's smart for Stake to use celebrities and renowned individuals for promotions, right? Not only money, but strategy. They invest in their brand in addition to spending. Returns? Their popularity and revenue are rising. Really, only traditional corporations are big players anymore? Is it time to recognize that platforms like Stake succeed rather than compete?

Well, nothing less can be said, Stake.com will always be an Example for many casinos worldwide, because things when it comes to stake.com can be considered the best in the world, because basically things are quite good, there are always the best contests , they have the best Influencers , I think that at stake.com everyone does their part very well, so in this Order of Ideas Things are very Competitive , all the caisnos try to reach the level of stake.com, Well, I Understand them because they have the best reputation, they have the highest Security , even though at one point there was a robbery, the Funds of the most prominent players and Celebrities were never Compromised , these Types of things are what every Player you should see , what I like the most is that the Small Followers are as Important as the big ones, they all get good Treatment, the VIP Levels are working to their maximum, they have many to be sponsors in boxing, UFC, In fútbol, the casino is Among the world's elite of the best.

Now hasn't made much progress, but I think they want to do something very good with poker, a good platform, something different , that's what they want, as they are they can do Something very spectacular, that's what we're used to at stake, .com, then based on all these wonders it is normal that other casinos wanted to imitate them, because things are quite strong Because stake.com is like a titan of the casinos, it is difficult to compare to them, so in this order of Ideas we as Players are always going to choose the best casinos that have more security and Confidence , I personally can say that when you need to have the best of the casinos Without a Doubt I would go for and Choose stake.com , in this order of ideas I would say That the casinos follow because they can Make casino reviewers Available , Who in the beginning will tell the truth, those who are quite Reliable.

It's hard to disagree with you.  Indeed, this casino seems to be such a giant in the gambling industry and many people praise the ease of use of this casino, the huge selection of different games and entertainment.  And of course, their budget and turnover are also huge, and these latest hacking troubles went unnoticed by the players, which clearly speaks of a well-organized business and the sustainability of this casino. 

But many players still sometimes get bored with the same casino.  And there are many others, maybe not very large, but also with their own charm and interesting offers. 
For example, the Duelbits.com casino, which has also been present on the gambling market for a long time and is generally successfully used by many players.  And there are also no negative reviews about this casino.  In any case, I have not seen such reviews about any offended players.

You are very right, for me Duelbits is a casino that has grown too fast in a short time, and its growth is integral, that is, when these casinos rise in level they do not go down because their growth is not based on effort, doing things well and doing things better. This is so that they can generate more profits, better treatment with their players and obviously things turn out to be excellent when it comes to having and having a good experience, that's why in these cases, the caisnos like the ones I have normed, are very good, I had seen a problem there with Duelbits regarding the fact that they were called that they had taken a coin from a player something like that, but things in casinos are usually like that, first they invent things to make the casino look bad, but there are too many trolls, things With the trolls it is impressive, I personally don't want to sign this type of accusations when there is no evidence, when there are screenshots or something like that one says that things could be real, but it is not like that, there are many times trolls who denounce that the casinos give them money for nothing.

And this is a very common practice, it seems to me that when it comes to how to have the best experience in a casino, they base it because they feel more comfortable, and because they can't do everything but just play, some players have a game in particular and they can take it as something that can make a difference, then based on this, as a player I could say that it is preferable to go for the old caisno, but why? because they are trustworthy, and because they have a high reputation, that is very impressive to me, among the caisno that I consider to be reliable and that are not that old, obviously Duelbits appears on my radar, in fact I always like to speak well of that caisno oprqeu I have never had any problems with them, I like to praise their support and their way of doing things to please their clients by giving them the best of all treatment.

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Very common that those traditional gambling companies are really being known when it comes to numbers which considering that everything is something that could really be traced up on which means that they would really be placed up basing up on the ranking but eventually if we do compared it out to those casinos that we do have long time running in crypto space. We cant really be able to say that they arent having that match when it comes to overall revenue and just like as you mentioned which is on Stake on having that kind of big budget when it comes to marketing and this is something that cant be denied basing on what we are seeing. A certain platform that could really go into a certain extent when it comes to marketing which does basically shows that they are earning that much on which they could really be able to spend up that
big when it comes to having ambassadors or having those kind of exposure using up some celebs or known people.
Number-wise, traditional gaming enterprises are huge. They've created trust and performance over time. However, isn't crypto altering the game fascinating? You're right about stake. Isn't their marketing budget huge? Unless they earned more, why would they spend so much? It shows their success

It's smart for Stake to use celebrities and renowned individuals for promotions, right? Not only money, but strategy. They invest in their brand in addition to spending. Returns? Their popularity and revenue are rising. Really, only traditional corporations are big players anymore? Is it time to recognize that platforms like Stake succeed rather than compete?

Well, nothing less can be said, Stake.com will always be an Example for many casinos worldwide, because things when it comes to stake.com can be considered the best in the world, because basically things are quite good, there are always the best contests , they have the best Influencers , I think that at stake.com everyone does their part very well, so in this Order of Ideas Things are very Competitive , all the caisnos try to reach the level of stake.com, Well, I Understand them because they have the best reputation, they have the highest Security , even though at one point there was a robbery, the Funds of the most prominent players and Celebrities were never Compromised , these Types of things are what every Player you should see , what I like the most is that the Small Followers are as Important as the big ones, they all get good Treatment, the VIP Levels are working to their maximum, they have many to be sponsors in boxing, UFC, In fútbol, the casino is Among the world's elite of the best.

Now hasn't made much progress, but I think they want to do something very good with poker, a good platform, something different , that's what they want, as they are they can do Something very spectacular, that's what we're used to at stake, .com, then based on all these wonders it is normal that other casinos wanted to imitate them, because things are quite strong Because stake.com is like a titan of the casinos, it is difficult to compare to them, so in this order of Ideas we as Players are always going to choose the best casinos that have more security and Confidence , I personally can say that when you need to have the best of the casinos Without a Doubt I would go for and Choose stake.com , in this order of ideas I would say That the casinos follow because they can Make casino reviewers Available , Who in the beginning will tell the truth, those who are quite Reliable.

It's hard to disagree with you.  Indeed, this casino seems to be such a giant in the gambling industry and many people praise the ease of use of this casino, the huge selection of different games and entertainment.  And of course, their budget and turnover are also huge, and these latest hacking troubles went unnoticed by the players, which clearly speaks of a well-organized business and the sustainability of this casino. 

But many players still sometimes get bored with the same casino.  And there are many others, maybe not very large, but also with their own charm and interesting offers. 
For example, the Duelbits.com casino, which has also been present on the gambling market for a long time and is generally successfully used by many players.  And there are also no negative reviews about this casino.  In any case, I have not seen such reviews about any offended players.

You are very right, for me Duelbits is a casino that has grown too fast in a short time, and its growth is integral, that is, when these casinos rise in level they do not go down because their growth is not based on effort, doing things well and doing things better. This is so that they can generate more profits, better treatment with their players and obviously things turn out to be excellent when it comes to having and having a good experience, that's why in these cases, the caisnos like the ones I have normed, are very good, I had seen a problem there with Duelbits regarding the fact that they were called that they had taken a coin from a player something like that, but things in casinos are usually like that, first they invent things to make the casino look bad, but there are too many trolls, things With the trolls it is impressive, I personally don't want to sign this type of accusations when there is no evidence, when there are screenshots or something like that one says that things could be real, but it is not like that, there are many times trolls who denounce that the casinos give them money for nothing.

And this is a very common practice, it seems to me that when it comes to how to have the best experience in a casino, they base it because they feel more comfortable, and because they can't do everything but just play, some players have a game in particular and they can take it as something that can make a difference, then based on this, as a player I could say that it is preferable to go for the old caisno, but why? because they are trustworthy, and because they have a high reputation, that is very impressive to me, among the caisno that I consider to be reliable and that are not that old, obviously Duelbits appears on my radar, in fact I always like to speak well of that caisno oprqeu I have never had any problems with them, I like to praise their support and their way of doing things to please their clients by giving them the best of all treatment.

It seems to me that in general the online crypto casino market itself is now quite highly structured.
 There is a small group of casinos that have been successfully operating in this market for a long time, and complaints from players in such casinos are rare and often these complaints are not fair because the player himself does not fully understand the rules of operation of this casino. 
Another group of medium-sized casinos are those who are perhaps the most active in promoting their games and actively fight for their players.  It is in these casinos that you can probably get the maximum bonuses and play them relatively safely. 
And finally, those casinos that have just appeared on the market and that are very actively trying to find their players and are actively recruiting players from the first two classes that I listed. 
So: all players can choose their priorities among these casino groups, and the criterion is the player’s character itself.  An important factor when choosing is one’s risk tolerance, because playing in new and untested casinos is always a risky action.
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November 14, 2023, 09:29:04 AM
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I was actually surprised when I read the liquid stuff here but on the second thought anything that has to do with money is liquid but this is rarely used in casinos and sportsbooks. However, one thing I will caution about is for us to avoid believing that liability makes up the integrity of a gambling company. A less liquid gambling company might pay you while the one with higher liquidity dupes you, it happens daily all around us, which is why we should look before liquidity in selecting our casinos and sportsbooks. A good example is the 1xbit that which people were quick to tag their campaigners with a negative trust score. My research of the casinos shows that it's a very well-capitalised ones, but at the same time, they are well known for not paying bettors gains.

Strongly Agree!
The need for trust in a gambling firm is beyond the degree of liquidity in the firm's financials. There are loads of illiquid company's who were once liquid, more liquid than the ones currently waving the flag of liquidity. Some liquid companies also with-hold payments through hidden policies and make you feel like you are not deserving of your wins.

I know liquidity is essential as it convinces you that your wins can be paid out but its not the only feature to look out for in gambling firms.
Financial information in business is often quite unreliable.  
There are many reasons why various organizations associated with financial flows hide the true state of affairs in their finances.  Almost all casinos can be classified not only as part of the gambling industry, but also as financial organizations.  Therefore, information about liquidity itself can also be included.  And it may not be reliable.  And it is absolutely impossible to verify this without an independent audit.  And it is not a fact that the casino, even when conducting some kind of audit, will not hide from the auditors some of its serious and secret financial obligations.  Fo this reason, I believe that liquidities that are publicly reported by casinos may not be a 100% guarantee of fair business practices.  
And a guarantee of paying out a big win to some lucky player.  
Rather, liquidity is something that simply informs you of how the casino chooses to present its financial position to the public.  
And you can only guess for yourself whether this is true or not.
Undoubtedly there are many strong and reliable casinos that have high reputations. However, the crypto gambling sector is a free market that is not well regulated. Some of the licencing nations or organisations only give authority to run a casino but they don't engage in regulations. In some cases, these casinos are not mandated by regulators to present audited financial statements. There have been cases where casinos issue doctored or fake financial reports to cover up their negative financial position.

We use casinos based on trust and not by rating from diverse bodies or websites. Even some of these reports might also be faulty because the process of gathering these data might not be reliable or valid. We shouldn't also forget that these casinos can also give researchers fake data just to deceive customers. Gamblers should always stake only what they can afford to lose and should always use casinos in the forum. This is because you will have genuine feedback about casinos that is present here.

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November 14, 2023, 08:42:50 PM
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I was actually surprised when I read the liquid stuff here but on the second thought anything that has to do with money is liquid but this is rarely used in casinos and sportsbooks. However, one thing I will caution about is for us to avoid believing that liability makes up the integrity of a gambling company. A less liquid gambling company might pay you while the one with higher liquidity dupes you, it happens daily all around us, which is why we should look before liquidity in selecting our casinos and sportsbooks. A good example is the 1xbit that which people were quick to tag their campaigners with a negative trust score. My research of the casinos shows that it's a very well-capitalised ones, but at the same time, they are well known for not paying bettors gains.

Strongly Agree!
The need for trust in a gambling firm is beyond the degree of liquidity in the firm's financials. There are loads of illiquid company's who were once liquid, more liquid than the ones currently waving the flag of liquidity. Some liquid companies also with-hold payments through hidden policies and make you feel like you are not deserving of your wins.

I know liquidity is essential as it convinces you that your wins can be paid out but its not the only feature to look out for in gambling firms.
Financial information in business is often quite unreliable.  
There are many reasons why various organizations associated with financial flows hide the true state of affairs in their finances.  Almost all casinos can be classified not only as part of the gambling industry, but also as financial organizations.  Therefore, information about liquidity itself can also be included.  And it may not be reliable.  And it is absolutely impossible to verify this without an independent audit.  And it is not a fact that the casino, even when conducting some kind of audit, will not hide from the auditors some of its serious and secret financial obligations.  Fo this reason, I believe that liquidities that are publicly reported by casinos may not be a 100% guarantee of fair business practices.  
And a guarantee of paying out a big win to some lucky player.  
Rather, liquidity is something that simply informs you of how the casino chooses to present its financial position to the public.  
And you can only guess for yourself whether this is true or not.
Undoubtedly there are many strong and reliable casinos that have high reputations. However, the crypto gambling sector is a free market that is not well regulated. Some of the licencing nations or organisations only give authority to run a casino but they don't engage in regulations. In some cases, these casinos are not mandated by regulators to present audited financial statements. There have been cases where casinos issue doctored or fake financial reports to cover up their negative financial position.

We use casinos based on trust and not by rating from diverse bodies or websites. Even some of these reports might also be faulty because the process of gathering these data might not be reliable or valid. We shouldn't also forget that these casinos can also give researchers fake data just to deceive customers. Gamblers should always stake only what they can afford to lose and should always use casinos in the forum. This is because you will have genuine feedback about casinos that is present here.
In general idea on which on the time that you dos sent out funds into other wallets which you dont possess its keys then  you should really be considering about on the risky move that you have done.
Once things becomes messy then there's no way that could really be able to get those funds back. This is why for now we dont really have no choice but to entrust since we are really that needing something from them on which the service that they do give on which we do decide on making some play or engagement which it would really be giving out that kind of not assured or safety with those funds but since
those would really be that be spent on gambling then it wont really matter much but it would really be still different if you are really that dealing with a legit thing rather than
into those weren't.

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November 14, 2023, 09:28:38 PM
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I was actually surprised when I read the liquid stuff here but on the second thought anything that has to do with money is liquid but this is rarely used in casinos and sportsbooks. However, one thing I will caution about is for us to avoid believing that liability makes up the integrity of a gambling company. A less liquid gambling company might pay you while the one with higher liquidity dupes you, it happens daily all around us, which is why we should look before liquidity in selecting our casinos and sportsbooks. A good example is the 1xbit that which people were quick to tag their campaigners with a negative trust score. My research of the casinos shows that it's a very well-capitalised ones, but at the same time, they are well known for not paying bettors gains.

Strongly Agree!
The need for trust in a gambling firm is beyond the degree of liquidity in the firm's financials. There are loads of illiquid company's who were once liquid, more liquid than the ones currently waving the flag of liquidity. Some liquid companies also with-hold payments through hidden policies and make you feel like you are not deserving of your wins.

I know liquidity is essential as it convinces you that your wins can be paid out but its not the only feature to look out for in gambling firms.

Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.



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Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.
Making decisions is one of the important thing in the market, there's a whole lot of things to consider when it comes to gambling, always prepare for the task ahead. We all need money to be able to continue our existence in the space and probably invest heavily in prominent projects that anytime they shoot higher, one become more safer and open to hearing massive profits generated from just a business. Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.

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November 15, 2023, 07:41:12 AM
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We use casinos based on trust and not by rating from diverse bodies or websites. Even some of these reports might also be faulty because the process of gathering these data might not be reliable or valid. We shouldn't also forget that these casinos can also give researchers fake data just to deceive customers. Gamblers should always stake only what they can afford to lose and should always use casinos in the forum. This is because you will have genuine feedback about casinos that is present here.
The issue of trust in sources of information regarding the reliability of any casino unfaamiliar to you is naturally one of the most important issues when a player decides that he wants to play in this particular casino.  In this process, players can easily rely on the information that is provided in the topics of the corresponding casinos on our forum.  I would even put the objectivity of player reviews in the relevant topics of a particular casino on the forum in first place compared to other information platforms.

 Another important question, naturally, is the question of how exactly a player makes the final decision to trust a particular casino and confidently deposits a lot of money in such a casino.  In this matter, every player, I think, has some kind of boundary that he crosses and no longer even thinks about the fact that the reliability of the casino may not be as high as it seemed to him.  All this also depends on what psychotype this player has and how prone he is to risky behavior.

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November 15, 2023, 11:26:32 PM
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We use casinos based on trust and not by rating from diverse bodies or websites. Even some of these reports might also be faulty because the process of gathering these data might not be reliable or valid. We shouldn't also forget that these casinos can also give researchers fake data just to deceive customers. Gamblers should always stake only what they can afford to lose and should always use casinos in the forum. This is because you will have genuine feedback about casinos that is present here.
The issue of trust in sources of information regarding the reliability of any casino unfaamiliar to you is naturally one of the most important issues when a player decides that he wants to play in this particular casino.  In this process, players can easily rely on the information that is provided in the topics of the corresponding casinos on our forum.  I would even put the objectivity of player reviews in the relevant topics of a particular casino on the forum in first place compared to other information platforms.

 Another important question, naturally, is the question of how exactly a player makes the final decision to trust a particular casino and confidently deposits a lot of money in such a casino.  In this matter, every player, I think, has some kind of boundary that he crosses and no longer even thinks about the fact that the reliability of the casino may not be as high as it seemed to him.  All this also depends on what psychotype this player has and how prone he is to risky behavior.

Liquidity is important to be honest because it is not to be liked when you have made honest earnings - sometimes happens you know - and you really need to have it back for any imperious need. It can be really annoying to have to wait, and that can very well be caused because a site is not liquid enough so they will just put excuses to not allowing the withdrawal right that moment.

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November 16, 2023, 08:00:33 AM
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We use casinos based on trust and not by rating from diverse bodies or websites. Even some of these reports might also be faulty because the process of gathering these data might not be reliable or valid. We shouldn't also forget that these casinos can also give researchers fake data just to deceive customers. Gamblers should always stake only what they can afford to lose and should always use casinos in the forum. This is because you will have genuine feedback about casinos that is present here.
The issue of trust in sources of information regarding the reliability of any casino unfaamiliar to you is naturally one of the most important issues when a player decides that he wants to play in this particular casino.  In this process, players can easily rely on the information that is provided in the topics of the corresponding casinos on our forum.  I would even put the objectivity of player reviews in the relevant topics of a particular casino on the forum in first place compared to other information platforms.

 Another important question, naturally, is the question of how exactly a player makes the final decision to trust a particular casino and confidently deposits a lot of money in such a casino.  In this matter, every player, I think, has some kind of boundary that he crosses and no longer even thinks about the fact that the reliability of the casino may not be as high as it seemed to him.  All this also depends on what psychotype this player has and how prone he is to risky behavior.

Liquidity is important to be honest because it is not to be liked when you have made honest earnings - sometimes happens you know - and you really need to have it back for any imperious need. It can be really annoying to have to wait, and that can very well be caused because a site is not liquid enough so they will just put excuses to not allowing the withdrawal right that moment.
Undoubtedly, liquidity is one of the most important factors for the successful operation of a crypto cadsino.  However, the real state of affairs in this matter is often hidden simply because if players find out about the problems that a casino has with liquidity, then no one in their right mind would send money for a deposit to such a casino.  For this reason, problems with liquidity are almost always hidden until the moment when the casino becomes bankrupt and cannot fulfill its obligations to the players. 

But the group of largest crypto casinos obviously has good liquidity, which can certainly cover almost all of their potential losses and expense obligations.  So playing in such casinos is relatively safe, but often the players themselves are not very interested.  It becomes especially boring and uninteresting for those players who are used to frequently changing casinos and games.  And they continue to look for some new entertainment for themselves.

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November 16, 2023, 04:36:34 PM
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Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.
Making decisions is one of the important thing in the market, there's a whole lot of things to consider when it comes to gambling, always prepare for the task ahead. We all need money to be able to continue our existence in the space and probably invest heavily in prominent projects that anytime they shoot higher, one become more safer and open to hearing massive profits generated from just a business. Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.
The gambling sphere is always be there so it is not something we needed to rush or do to make profits by all means. Gambling is a strategy and we don't have to gamble on all gambling platforms before we make profits. Those that know how to find there ways to make more profits from the market would do better than those who just enjoy gambling without any skills or strategies. Gambling is a business and is for those that have the capacity and the funds that can do the business because it requires a lots of funds to achieve a reason profits from customers as a gambling platform.

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Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.
Making decisions is one of the important thing in the market, there's a whole lot of things to consider when it comes to gambling, always prepare for the task ahead. We all need money to be able to continue our existence in the space and probably invest heavily in prominent projects that anytime they shoot higher, one become more safer and open to hearing massive profits generated from just a business. Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.
The gambling sphere is always be there so it is not something we needed to rush or do to make profits by all means. Gambling is a strategy and we don't have to gamble on all gambling platforms before we make profits. Those that know how to find there ways to make more profits from the market would do better than those who just enjoy gambling without any skills or strategies. Gambling is a business and is for those that have the capacity and the funds that can do the business because it requires a lots of funds to achieve a reason profits from customers as a gambling platform.

Are we talking about the gambling companies' liquidity here or about the liquidity of the individual gamblers? Both have different dimensions to look at and the success criteria are also different or totally opposite to each other. For example, a win for an individual gambler will mean a loss for the gambling site/business. Similarly, a loss for the gambler will mean a win for the gambling casino.

From the individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.

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November 21, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
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Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.
Making decisions is one of the important thing in the market, there's a whole lot of things to consider when it comes to gambling, always prepare for the task ahead. We all need money to be able to continue our existence in the space and probably invest heavily in prominent projects that anytime they shoot higher, one become more safer and open to hearing massive profits generated from just a business. Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.
The gambling sphere is always be there so it is not something we needed to rush or do to make profits by all means. Gambling is a strategy and we don't have to gamble on all gambling platforms before we make profits. Those that know how to find there ways to make more profits from the market would do better than those who just enjoy gambling without any skills or strategies. Gambling is a business and is for those that have the capacity and the funds that can do the business because it requires a lots of funds to achieve a reason profits from customers as a gambling platform.

Are we talking about the gambling companies' liquidity here or about the liquidity of the individual gamblers? Both have different dimensions to look at and the success criteria are also different or totally opposite to each other. For example, a win for an individual gambler will mean a loss for the gambling site/business. Similarly, a loss for the gambler will mean a win for the gambling casino.

From the individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.
According to probability theory, of course, changing casinos should not be somehow correlated with the player’s luck, especially when the games use a provably fair algorithm. 

However, we all should take into account one circumstance related to human psychology.  I'm talking about that state of heightened euphoria from the game when the player feels that he has started a lucky streak. 
By the way, this may also be due to the player switching to games in another casino.  The fact is that the player begins to feel more relaxed and bold, which immediately changes the nature of his game. 
And it may well be that because of this he is starting to have a little more luck than usual.  Now, if we look at the transition from games in one casino, where the player thinks he is unlucky, to playing in another casino with a different initial psychological attitude. 
I think that all this still affects players moving to other casinos.

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November 21, 2023, 03:11:47 PM
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Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.
Making decisions is one of the important thing in the market, there's a whole lot of things to consider when it comes to gambling, always prepare for the task ahead. We all need money to be able to continue our existence in the space and probably invest heavily in prominent projects that anytime they shoot higher, one become more safer and open to hearing massive profits generated from just a business. Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.
The gambling sphere is always be there so it is not something we needed to rush or do to make profits by all means. Gambling is a strategy and we don't have to gamble on all gambling platforms before we make profits. Those that know how to find there ways to make more profits from the market would do better than those who just enjoy gambling without any skills or strategies. Gambling is a business and is for those that have the capacity and the funds that can do the business because it requires a lots of funds to achieve a reason profits from customers as a gambling platform.
Are we talking about the gambling companies' liquidity here or about the liquidity of the individual gamblers? Both have different dimensions to look at and the success criteria are also different or totally opposite to each other. For example, a win for an individual gambler will mean a loss for the gambling site/business. Similarly, a loss for the gambler will mean a win for the gambling casino.
For the context in question, I believe both still enter each other, so the discussion might get to link them. As we know, it has always been the inversely proportional relationship between gamblers and gambling houses and this is not going to change for the sustenance of the industry. And for fairness's sake, the house must be well-prepared and liquid enough to be able to contain the bet of wealthy bettors, if not, there would be an issue when such persons win big. This is not uncommon where the house would be looking for excuses not to pay a gambler, and it's a very good reason for any gambler to consider gambling with a company that is well-liquid. However, liquidity has never been the total solution as the sincerity of the house matters too since the liquidity of the house doesn't guarantee integrity.

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From the individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.
There are many reasons for players to have different access to different gambling sites. To some, it might be to diversify their portfolio in case any unplanned situation happens, and to others, it might be for a better gaming experience or other personal reasons just as you mentioned that some are betting for better winning at some casinos than others. This is not a lie, it's a reality and a friend even told me of such this month when he ascribed his betting luck to a particular casino, but doing the same thing doesn't seem to yield results in others. As silly as this might be, it goes a long way in satisfying the mind of the bettor, this is a very good condition needed in betting. Do what pleases you and your betting spirit.

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Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.
Making decisions is one of the important thing in the market, there's a whole lot of things to consider when it comes to gambling, always prepare for the task ahead. We all need money to be able to continue our existence in the space and probably invest heavily in prominent projects that anytime they shoot higher, one become more safer and open to hearing massive profits generated from just a business. Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.
The gambling sphere is always be there so it is not something we needed to rush or do to make profits by all means. Gambling is a strategy and we don't have to gamble on all gambling platforms before we make profits. Those that know how to find there ways to make more profits from the market would do better than those who just enjoy gambling without any skills or strategies. Gambling is a business and is for those that have the capacity and the funds that can do the business because it requires a lots of funds to achieve a reason profits from customers as a gambling platform.

Are we talking about the gambling companies' liquidity here or about the liquidity of the individual gamblers? Both have different dimensions to look at and the success criteria are also different or totally opposite to each other. For example, a win for an individual gambler will mean a loss for the gambling site/business. Similarly, a loss for the gambler will mean a win for the gambling casino.

From the individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.
For a player to have liquidity is something quite strong and difficult, I wouldn't say that it is among the things that are sought, because it is very easy, I prefer to do other types of things, that can generate money, but hope to have liquidity playing in a casino, for me it is something that is not in the normal parameters, we as players are always going to establish something very good so that we can eventually fly with some type of strategy. Until now I don't know who can have such a level in any case, and if it exists, wow it really is quite a feat to do, but for now what I prefer is to go with the insurance, and with the statistics that don't fail, It is always good to establish what we owe or want to lose, so that our money does not go away, hence the good success of being in a casino and doing things well, we must be very emphatic about that, because leaving a casino with In fact, even a little is a gain, it is something that should be enjoyed and we can be sure of this.

In today's world, talking about the liquidity that exists in a business like a casino is obvious, especially when the casino is very famous, because there is no need to do any type of advertising, the things and the results speak for themselves, In fact, a casino cannot and should not reveal these results, because it would be a danger, so it is obvious that the liquidity of a casino is provided by the players themselves, when it comes to playing there will always be the house advantage, above any game. will always prevail, a player can never be doing anything else but be focused on what he can do, even if he is very good, the casino will have the advantage, it is his business, it is his way of earning the business and having something from which to subtract his They work for themselves, so liquidity in a casino is guaranteed when they do things in a normal and honest way, that is the most common example of things that can be seen.

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November 22, 2023, 08:11:16 AM
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The need for trust in a gambling firm is beyond the degree of liquidity in the firm's financials. There are loads of illiquid company's who were once liquid, more liquid than the ones currently waving the flag of liquidity. Some liquid companies also with-hold payments through hidden policies and make you feel like you are not deserving of your wins.

I know liquidity is essential as it convinces you that your wins can be paid out but its not the only feature to look out for in gambling firms.

Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.

Trust in making decisions on a gambling platform is indeed an important thing and the main key lies in a person's personality, therefore we must be able to know whether the company is truly liquid or not, if we are still not sure. and the company has not proven or explained this. Whether we are liquid or not, we have to think carefully before entering the company, because this concerns our future lives, if we enter the wrong company then it is very likely that we will regret it and the opportunity will not come a second time.

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Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.
Making decisions is one of the important thing in the market, there's a whole lot of things to consider when it comes to gambling, always prepare for the task ahead. We all need money to be able to continue our existence in the space and probably invest heavily in prominent projects that anytime they shoot higher, one become more safer and open to hearing massive profits generated from just a business. Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.

We often see the outcome of what this reputable gambling organizations performs without us sometimes bothering on knowing what they have been through to have achieved such result they see, for every glory, there's always a story behind the success, they also spend alot without thinking otherwise because they realized the fact that it will always bring back it kinds in folds, the gambling platforms are taking risks and likewise the gamblers as well to achieve what we want to see through the way we gamble, every good thing attract spending money for it maintenance.



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November 25, 2023, 10:26:52 AM
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Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.
Aren't we talking about gambling investments? And when we talk about that, we don't count the risks of gambling as a gambler but we talk about the risks of investing in the industry with the industry players who are providing the opportunity or starting our journey from scratch which is even more riskier because it's not very easy to set up a gambling empire and then maintain it so that you keep earning revenue for a long time without any problems and interruptions.

Businesses are already not easy to manage no matter what type of a business it is, and when the competition is extremely tough in a certain market, it becomes even more difficult to sustain the business and stay afloat against all the competition which is the key to success but it's a very big challenge.

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Gambling is basically not for everyone because it involves high risks and most people doesn't stand the chance of losing heavy sum of figures because of gambling.
Aren't we talking about gambling investments? And when we talk about that, we don't count the risks of gambling as a gambler but we talk about the risks of investing in the industry with the industry players who are providing the opportunity or starting our journey from scratch which is even more riskier because it's not very easy to set up a gambling empire and then maintain it so that you keep earning revenue for a long time without any problems and interruptions.

Businesses are already not easy to manage no matter what type of a business it is, and when the competition is extremely tough in a certain market, it becomes even more difficult to sustain the business and stay afloat against all the competition which is the key to success but it's a very big challenge.

If we talk about gambling we can say that everyone one of us already know that not all people want to gamble cause some of us let thier money grow in a sure way not in the risky one. Yes through gambling there are many people around the globe who are truly blessed and earn a lot of money by winning. But in reality and the majority we can say that gambling is Base on our luck once we are too lucky then we can win but if not then losses are waving. So other people choose to remain in investing sn din holding than playing in gambling.

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November 25, 2023, 10:27:26 PM
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I have only heard of a few of the company names, such as Draftkings, Las Vegas Sands, and MGM Resorts. But I don't know how the company is and how good the company is. Maybe it's because these companies are offline casino companies so I don't know much about each company. But I am sure that each company will want to expand its business to other countries, especially to countries that support gambling. I was only interested in investing in those companies but then, I thought that it would require a lot of money to become one of the shareholders. So I don't intend to continue because I don't have much money. I'd rather just be a bitcoin investor Grin

They are still likely to have their online gambling platforms, though this time they may exist under different brand name or affiliate because some organizations do this kind alot, we cannot totally predict on how these gambling platforms runs and we also cannot judge just by the little informations we've gathered online about them, it takes a high financial commitment to take back their gambling business.



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November 25, 2023, 10:43:00 PM
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I have only heard of a few of the company names, such as Draftkings, Las Vegas Sands, and MGM Resorts. But I don't know how the company is and how good the company is. Maybe it's because these companies are offline casino companies so I don't know much about each company. But I am sure that each company will want to expand its business to other countries, especially to countries that support gambling. I was only interested in investing in those companies but then, I thought that it would require a lot of money to become one of the shareholders. So I don't intend to continue because I don't have much money. I'd rather just be a bitcoin investor Grin

It's because majority of them are really offline casinos and not crypto based. And I thought that I will see like Stake or other casinos that are early in the game or at least established in the pandemic in the last 3 years and doing billion dollar that's why they are illiquidated.

But if you are a regular player in traditional based casino, some of them will  ring a bell. And if you are a sport bettors, Draftkings could be one of those name that you will recognized. In any case, it's a good exposure that majority of them might not be familiar to us, but if you do your research you will understand why this companies are illiquid in the first place.

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November 25, 2023, 11:46:07 PM
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Aren't we talking about gambling investments? And when we talk about that, we don't count the risks of gambling as a gambler but we talk about the risks of investing in the industry with the industry players who are providing the opportunity or starting our journey from scratch which is even more riskier because it's not very easy to set up a gambling empire and then maintain it so that you keep earning revenue for a long time without any problems and interruptions.

Businesses are already not easy to manage no matter what type of a business it is, and when the competition is extremely tough in a certain market, it becomes even more difficult to sustain the business and stay afloat against all the competition which is the key to success but it's a very big challenge.


The gambling investment was different from the gambling involvement as the gambler.If you had huge experience in the gambling site,you can start the business in the gambling by creating a own gambling site.The building the own gambling sites had their own risk of the huge capital of money,because if you play the game only few dollars will be the loss because of the luck.But if you failed to regain the gambling trust among the gamblers,So you are forced to loss the entire capital.So the gambling owners always take some risk by starting the business.Only if the gambler start the gambling business,they will know the real mindset of the gambler with their experience in the gambling site.So the best way to start the gambling site only by the gamblers by using their own experience to the game.

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November 25, 2023, 11:58:26 PM
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From there individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.
Technically and statistically, casinos do not care whether you win or lose. Casinos usually pay the winnings from the lost of other gamblers. They don't care, they just get their profit from the house edge or better when all their customers keep losing. This is unlikely to happen if the casino is fair.
You already know that your luck won't change if you change the casino you are playing at. So there isn' to much I can tell you about this!

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Are these all offline casinos if I understood correctly which makes no point in posting here as no one of us would be that much interested to join any of such company since many of them are either in the USA or China.The people here are only interested in online gambling,99% of us I am sure love playing online in our usual websites which dominate the Gambling section with their really long and big ANN threads.

As for those mentioned here as much as I learned some new facts in reality these facts will never serve me for any purpose,so most likely you won't get that much responses for these "companies".
You have spoken really well and I completely agree with you, while reading the wall of texts of the op, at a point, exactly this same thing you said came into my mind and I immediately lost interest in the reading.

Amongst all the gambling companies op mentioned, the only one I think I know is Draftking, and this is because there is this crypto company i invested a small amount of funds on, which their goal is, building the same type of games offered by draftking, for the crypto gambling community, so they used draftking in reference in most of their product information like the whitepaper and so on.

So yeah, since all the mentioned gambling companies are all offline based companies, and not even one that have branches in every city and countries of the world, the information shared my op has absolutely no benefit to me as well.

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We use casinos based on trust and not by rating from diverse bodies or websites. Even some of these reports might also be faulty because the process of gathering these data might not be reliable or valid. We shouldn't also forget that these casinos can also give researchers fake data just to deceive customers. Gamblers should always stake only what they can afford to lose and should always use casinos in the forum. This is because you will have genuine feedback about casinos that is present here.
The issue of trust in sources of information regarding the reliability of any casino unfaamiliar to you is naturally one of the most important issues when a player decides that he wants to play in this particular casino.  In this process, players can easily rely on the information that is provided in the topics of the corresponding casinos on our forum.  I would even put the objectivity of player reviews in the relevant topics of a particular casino on the forum in first place compared to other information platforms.

 Another important question, naturally, is the question of how exactly a player makes the final decision to trust a particular casino and confidently deposits a lot of money in such a casino.  In this matter, every player, I think, has some kind of boundary that he crosses and no longer even thinks about the fact that the reliability of the casino may not be as high as it seemed to him.  All this also depends on what psychotype this player has and how prone he is to risky behavior.

Liquidity is important to be honest because it is not to be liked when you have made honest earnings - sometimes happens you know - and you really need to have it back for any imperious need. It can be really annoying to have to wait, and that can very well be caused because a site is not liquid enough so they will just put excuses to not allowing the withdrawal right that moment.
I like to gamble with the best and most reputable casinos, but this is not because I primarily look for where there is enough fund, I only believe that the more the company is big and has a good review online, the better. Another thing is that gambling with such a company makes me feel a better sense of touch as I do not like to settle for less at all. By this bigness, I naturally gamble with a well-capitalised casino, but still, this is not the only or should I say the best criterion to choose a casino, especially if you are such that is gambling with a small amount. Some casinos can be well-liquid and still deprive you of your winning and start citing reasons for not paying you, while some will not even answer you. All that matters is for you to rather gamble with a reputable companies with integrity, and if truly they are, they will certainly find the means to pay you your winnings. There are no good casinos that would allow a bet that its reward can't be able to be paid by it, always note that.

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November 26, 2023, 11:02:48 PM
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I like to gamble with the best and most reputable casinos, but this is not because I primarily look for where there is enough fund, I only believe that the more the company is big and has a good review online, the better. Another thing is that gambling with such a company makes me feel a better sense of touch as I do not like to settle for less at all. By this bigness, I naturally gamble with a well-capitalised casino, but still, this is not the only or should I say the best criterion to choose a casino, especially if you are such that is gambling with a small amount. Some casinos can be well-liquid and still deprive you of your winning and start citing reasons for not paying you, while some will not even answer you. All that matters is for you to rather gamble with a reputable companies with integrity, and if truly they are, they will certainly find the means to pay you your winnings. There are no good casinos that would allow a bet that its reward can't be able to be paid by it, always note that.

Playing the gambling on the reputed casino will make the correct decision of playing the gambling and enable the winning chances from the gambling sites.The small casino was target the benefit of holding the casino and try to steal your money.Only the reputed casino will play the correct game and allow the gambler to win the game.The huge bankroll gambling sites won't depend on the gambler money,they are satisfied with the less money from the fee for the game paid by users.The gambler should chose the well liquid companies for the good way of allow the gambler to make some money.Small gambling sites never allow the gambler to make money using their sites.It only make you to loss all the money deposited to their site.

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November 27, 2023, 07:30:30 AM
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We use casinos based on trust and not by rating from diverse bodies or websites. Even some of these reports might also be faulty because the process of gathering these data might not be reliable or valid. We shouldn't also forget that these casinos can also give researchers fake data just to deceive customers. Gamblers should always stake only what they can afford to lose and should always use casinos in the forum. This is because you will have genuine feedback about casinos that is present here.
The issue of trust in sources of information regarding the reliability of any casino unfaamiliar to you is naturally one of the most important issues when a player decides that he wants to play in this particular casino.  In this process, players can easily rely on the information that is provided in the topics of the corresponding casinos on our forum.  I would even put the objectivity of player reviews in the relevant topics of a particular casino on the forum in first place compared to other information platforms.

 Another important question, naturally, is the question of how exactly a player makes the final decision to trust a particular casino and confidently deposits a lot of money in such a casino.  In this matter, every player, I think, has some kind of boundary that he crosses and no longer even thinks about the fact that the reliability of the casino may not be as high as it seemed to him.  All this also depends on what psychotype this player has and how prone he is to risky behavior.

Liquidity is important to be honest because it is not to be liked when you have made honest earnings - sometimes happens you know - and you really need to have it back for any imperious need. It can be really annoying to have to wait, and that can very well be caused because a site is not liquid enough so they will just put excuses to not allowing the withdrawal right that moment.
Have you also thought of the situation where you might be in dire need of the money and despite your casino being so big and well-liquid, they still deny you your withdrawal due to flimsy excuse(s)? Having liquidity is good indeed but choosing the right and trustworthy casino is key in my selection criteria. I don't think I've ever searched for casinos based on how rich they are, but I always search for casinos based on how reliable they are, and how people talk about them offline and online. The comments of people online, the kind of games I want to be playing with them, the provably fair system and all that. The customer service and how professionals they are handling cases are part of what I look for in my casino. Now imagine it, if a rich casino lacks all or most all of that, will you still deal with them just because they are big and well-liquid? This is what I am trying to say, your money will always be safe with a reliable casino, nevertheless, it will be a plus if they are rich and still possess all good characteristics.

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November 27, 2023, 07:57:36 AM
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Have you also thought of the situation where you might be in dire need of the money and despite your casino being so big and well-liquid, they still deny you your withdrawal due to flimsy excuse(s)? Having liquidity is good indeed but choosing the right and trustworthy casino is key in my selection criteria. I don't think I've ever searched for casinos based on how rich they are, but I always search for casinos based on how reliable they are, and how people talk about them offline and online. The comments of people online, the kind of games I want to be playing with them, the provably fair system and all that. The customer service and how professionals they are handling cases are part of what I look for in my casino. Now imagine it, if a rich casino lacks all or most all of that, will you still deal with them just because they are big and well-liquid? This is what I am trying to say, your money will always be safe with a reliable casino, nevertheless, it will be a plus if they are rich and still possess all good characteristics.
Trust in the casino can only be established if you play in it anyway, so maybe you're prioritizing something unrealistically. Although I don't agree that the large liquidity is the key attraction to play in a casino, trustworthiness should be found when you finally do something in the casino. Your strategy of looking at reviews and how people talk about the casinos online is a good way to know if it's a trustworthy casino or is it worth your time to play there is smart but isn't totally foolproof because there's a possibility that sneaky casinos use underhanded techniques like planting fake comments in their competitors and planting good comments in their casinos so I take those reviews with a grain of salt.



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November 27, 2023, 10:39:04 AM
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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.

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November 27, 2023, 11:03:38 AM
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The need for trust in a gambling firm is beyond the degree of liquidity in the firm's financials. There are loads of illiquid company's who were once liquid, more liquid than the ones currently waving the flag of liquidity. Some liquid companies also with-hold payments through hidden policies and make you feel like you are not deserving of your wins.

I know liquidity is essential as it convinces you that your wins can be paid out but its not the only feature to look out for in gambling firms.

Once we have made a decision for going i to gambling, then we have also signed the agreement for taking a risk as am endorsement because we cannot be sure in knowing the true nature or motive of a gambling platform until we have their experience, wether they are most liquid or not, this talks more about having a trust in them than in what they delivers and how they have been consistent in doing that for years, money or no money we need an approval of their trust.

Trust in making decisions on a gambling platform is indeed an important thing and the main key lies in a person's personality, therefore we must be able to know whether the company is truly liquid or not, if we are still not sure. and the company has not proven or explained this. Whether we are liquid or not, we have to think carefully before entering the company, because this concerns our future lives, if we enter the wrong company then it is very likely that we will regret it and the opportunity will not come a second time.
This is why the waiting game takes place and this is what i used mostly before engaging
and dealing in gambling site that I am going to play and deposit because this forum is very helpful as there are
many gamblers here or account that knows how to dig gambling sites about their being suspicious and their
possible attempt of being scammed.there is no problem to ask this forum first so why need to have problem
about how the liquidity of each site is when we can at least take some time first  before trusting .

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November 27, 2023, 11:05:21 AM
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Have you also thought of the situation where you might be in dire need of the money and despite your casino being so big and well-liquid, they still deny you your withdrawal due to flimsy excuse(s)? Having liquidity is good indeed but choosing the right and trustworthy casino is key in my selection criteria. I don't think I've ever searched for casinos based on how rich they are, but I always search for casinos based on how reliable they are, and how people talk about them offline and online. The comments of people online, the kind of games I want to be playing with them, the provably fair system and all that. The customer service and how professionals they are handling cases are part of what I look for in my casino. Now imagine it, if a rich casino lacks all or most all of that, will you still deal with them just because they are big and well-liquid? This is what I am trying to say, your money will always be safe with a reliable casino, nevertheless, it will be a plus if they are rich and still possess all good characteristics.
Trust in the casino can only be established if you play in it anyway, so maybe you're prioritizing something unrealistically. Although I don't agree that the large liquidity is the key attraction to play in a casino, trustworthiness should be found when you finally do something in the casino. Your strategy of looking at reviews and how people talk about the casinos online is a good way to know if it's a trustworthy casino or is it worth your time to play there is smart but isn't totally foolproof because there's a possibility that sneaky casinos use underhanded techniques like planting fake comments in their competitors and planting good comments in their casinos so I take those reviews with a grain of salt.

There is a saying that trust is earn, so if we don't play on that casino, then obviously there is no trust. Or if there is some reputable members that have review that casino for now, so that we will be spare of depositing on them and at the end, withdrawal will be denied. But in the end of it all, do gamblers really look for the numbers behind and see what companies is liquid or not specially specially in online platforms that we have? Or have we seen top crypto based platforms releasing such numbers like their fiat counterpart? So this is just factor that we have to look at online casinos. Reputation is one and then it cascaded to other parameters like support and their trust from this community and others including liquidity.

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November 27, 2023, 02:12:07 PM
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Trust in making decisions on a gambling platform is indeed an important thing and the main key lies in a person's personality, therefore we must be able to know whether the company is truly liquid or not, if we are still not sure. and the company has not proven or explained this. Whether we are liquid or not, we have to think carefully before entering the company, because this concerns our future lives, if we enter the wrong company then it is very likely that we will regret it and the opportunity will not come a second time.
This is why the waiting game takes place and this is what i used mostly before engaging
and dealing in gambling site that I am going to play and deposit because this forum is very helpful as there are
many gamblers here or account that knows how to dig gambling sites about their being suspicious and their
possible attempt of being scammed.there is no problem to ask this forum first so why need to have problem
about how the liquidity of each site is when we can at least take some time first  before trusting .
It could be that by waiting for the final result of a game, someone will start to think about whether the casino platform can be trusted or not. Apart from that, we can also see or listen to the experiences of other gamblers when they have entered one of them. from the casino platform, and then what they will experience. This is proof of whether the casino account has liquidity or not.
Then, if you read the experiences of friends on this forum, it is clear that we both give each other advice, remind each other and of course share experiences in discussing gambling, with the aim of behaving well in carrying out gambling activities.

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November 27, 2023, 02:27:07 PM
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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.
If it was all about the casino not having money to pay their winners, and asks for time to settle such dept, then it's still very understandable, I personally have come across a new casino on this forum (can't remember the name) that categorically stated in their terms of service that who ever won any amount of money above $2000 would have to wait up to a week or more to receive the payment since they are still very limited on bankroll to be able to pay or settle big wins immediately.

If a new and yet untrusted can be this transparent to their users and potential users, I think in the long run, such a casino will do well regardless of their current situation in terms of finance, since that shows that they are be atleast trusted to a certain level.

But then, I believe the reason why most gamblers avoid casinos that are new and have not built any reputation is because, most will bluntantly refuse to pay their winners, they may use kyc as an excuse, or find something to say that the customer did and for that, he or she will have to forfeit his or her winning back to them.

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November 27, 2023, 10:20:55 PM
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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.

The only advantage i see in a reputable gambling platform is the best desirability you got served with, trust and their loyalty to gamblers, but irrespective of the type or category of a gambling platform used, they all have thesame level of risk being involved in using their website or while gambling in general because we either win or loose, there's no preferential treatment on any gambler under any form of calibre.



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November 28, 2023, 11:22:13 PM
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From there individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.

Although the casino is considered a loser when it pays out the winnings of the winners, in reality it makes no difference to the casino because it will always pay from the money that the gamblers lose, which is always more than what the casino has to pay, or in the most extreme cases they use the money deposited at the house edge.

Changing the casino will provide psychological comfort to the gambler who has no luck on a particular platform, but this does not mean at all that luck will necessarily be on his side. The whole process may become useless if he has to complete the registration procedures on the new platform, unless he already has accounts at different casinos.

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November 29, 2023, 06:52:28 AM
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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.

The only advantage i see in a reputable gambling platform is the best desirability you got served with, trust and their loyalty to gamblers, but irrespective of the type or category of a gambling platform used, they all have thesame level of risk being involved in using their website or while gambling in general because we either win or loose, there's no preferential treatment on any gambler under any form of calibre.
I believe you should gamble without fear or intimidation when you are dealing with a reputable casino, so the extra you added to it is just a means of discouragement which shouldn't be. Unless your casino is not reputable enough, you do not have to be afraid in any way, all you need to do is to make sure that they have all you need in your casinos before having dealings with them. If they do not have it complete, that still does not change the fact that they are reputable as long as all that they have is being used to serve you right.

In this regard, it's you who would be at fault if you allege them as they are good with their games, especially when they have good support and process your withdrawal pretty fast. Generally, apart from playing games on their platforms, I believe that what most people look up to in their casino is their withdrawal, if the withdrawal is not denied even if it's delayed sometimes for investigative purposes, this is still fine. Above, all, everyone might want to have an alternative casino, it is such a way to be sure that nothing unplanned happens to their gambling account. We can't trust any casino 100%.

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November 29, 2023, 10:48:55 AM
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From there individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.

Although the casino is considered a loser when it pays out the winnings of the winners, in reality it makes no difference to the casino because it will always pay from the money that the gamblers lose, which is always more than what the casino has to pay, or in the most extreme cases they use the money deposited at the house edge.

Changing the casino will provide psychological comfort to the gambler who has no luck on a particular platform, but this does not mean at all that luck will necessarily be on his side. The whole process may become useless if he has to complete the registration procedures on the new platform, unless he already has accounts at different casinos.

I think as individuals, we sometimes look for psychological comfort, or at least try no one so that we won't be that guy that just play on one casino and become loyal to them. So yeah, why not try other reputable casinos along the way.

Who knows, maybe your luck will change for the better if you are willing to risk and deposit money to a new casinos. So for me, I don't see wrong with creating on many gambling sites. Yes, there could be superstitions, as gamblers is known to be like that, however, for me, there is that beginners luck that you might experience if you try new sites.
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November 29, 2023, 08:42:13 PM
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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.

The only advantage i see in a reputable gambling platform is the best desirability you got served with, trust and their loyalty to gamblers, but irrespective of the type or category of a gambling platform used, they all have thesame level of risk being involved in using their website or while gambling in general because we either win or loose, there's no preferential treatment on any gambler under any form of calibre.
I believe you should gamble without fear or intimidation when you are dealing with a reputable casino, so the extra you added to it is just a means of discouragement which shouldn't be. Unless your casino is not reputable enough, you do not have to be afraid in any way, all you need to do is to make sure that they have all you need in your casinos before having dealings with them. If they do not have it complete, that still does not change the fact that they are reputable as long as all that they have is being used to serve you right.

In this regard, it's you who would be at fault if you allege them as they are good with their games, especially when they have good support and process your withdrawal pretty fast. Generally, apart from playing games on their platforms, I believe that what most people look up to in their casino is their withdrawal, if the withdrawal is not denied even if it's delayed sometimes for investigative purposes, this is still fine. Above, all, everyone might want to have an alternative casino, it is such a way to be sure that nothing unplanned happens to their gambling account. We can't trust any casino 100%.

We are almost saying the same thing here, a gambler can make his decision on what he wants wether to use a casino or go for another since no one os forcing us to use any, there's a way we could also go about it in finding the best we want from a particular one we tried and sees offers what we want, this is not about being afraid of them, but i used the word loyalty because they are the gambler's best at the moment since he finds pleasure in them and they could also earned his loyalty by using their platform for gambling each time.



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November 29, 2023, 08:57:45 PM
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From there individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.

Although the casino is considered a loser when it pays out the winnings of the winners, in reality it makes no difference to the casino because it will always pay from the money that the gamblers lose, which is always more than what the casino has to pay, or in the most extreme cases they use the money deposited at the house edge.

Changing the casino will provide psychological comfort to the gambler who has no luck on a particular platform, but this does not mean at all that luck will necessarily be on his side. The whole process may become useless if he has to complete the registration procedures on the new platform, unless he already has accounts at different casinos.

I think as individuals, we sometimes look for psychological comfort, or at least try no one so that we won't be that guy that just play on one casino and become loyal to them. So yeah, why not try other reputable casinos along the way.

Who knows, maybe your luck will change for the better if you are willing to risk and deposit money to a new casinos. So for me, I don't see wrong with creating on many gambling sites. Yes, there could be superstitions, as gamblers is known to be like that, however, for me, there is that beginners luck that you might experience if you try new sites.

In this way, you confirm the emotional point of view held by gamblers, which, although psychologically comfortable, is logically very weak. It can be said that it is a way to reduce the tension resulting from successive losses in the same casino, so the gambler chooses to change the casino under the illusion that his bad luck was due to his choosing the wrong casino and not because gambling is originally a practice based on pure luck.

Following the same logic, it is assumed that there are platforms that are better than others in terms of achieving profit, and this is absolutely not true. You will find users on all platforms who are not lucky, and if they change casinos, they will inevitably choose casinos that have gamblers who were also unlucky.

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November 29, 2023, 11:40:49 PM
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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.
If it was all about the casino not having money to pay their winners, and asks for time to settle such dept, then it's still very understandable, I personally have come across a new casino on this forum (can't remember the name) that categorically stated in their terms of service that who ever won any amount of money above $2000 would have to wait up to a week or more to receive the payment since they are still very limited on bankroll to be able to pay or settle big wins immediately.

If a new and yet untrusted can be this transparent to their users and potential users, I think in the long run, such a casino will do well regardless of their current situation in terms of finance, since that shows that they are be atleast trusted to a certain level.

But then, I believe the reason why most gamblers avoid casinos that are new and have not built any reputation is because, most will bluntantly refuse to pay their winners, they may use kyc as an excuse, or find something to say that the customer did and for that, he or she will have to forfeit his or her winning back to them.

The good transparency and truth above all of any casino is always appreciated, this is always very well seen, I personally would think that things when it comes to a new casino are always more focused on winning and earning whatever it may be, but the The fact that they said that more than $2k and paying it after a week, seems like a good act to me, because that prevents the casino from becoming decapitalized and a period of one week gives time to coinsure money in case they don't have it, I could To say that things can be very well like this, some people who don't have patience will find that condition to be a bit silly and a failure, but things are better this way, now the people who want to adapt to that condition are fine, and if not, well now You know, this type of sincerity is nice, now, as far as that is concerned, it is fine, but the casino should also be even more sincere, for example, since now the KYC requirement is quite strong and mandatory, they should do something so that They can warn you that before making any deposit you should worry about complying with KYC requirements.

Why this? It is well known that the majority of casinos have to meet this requirement, but clients are something that some do not care about, others do not, because they do not like to leave their data, so they are surprised that when they go to Withdraw their money Well, they find that they cannot because simply, this is something that they must comply with, well, in the case of seven cases things should be clear, some say that the casinos when they say something like that, then the players will run and even more so if they are casinos New, but it is Preferable to do it this way , because you can be quite Effective at the same time, because the players will say, this casino was honest from the beginning and that is valuable, then things can be quite good when you are totally Sincere in these processes, I would say things will be better in the Future.


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November 30, 2023, 12:00:02 PM
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From there individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.

Although the casino is considered a loser when it pays out the winnings of the winners, in reality it makes no difference to the casino because it will always pay from the money that the gamblers lose, which is always more than what the casino has to pay, or in the most extreme cases they use the money deposited at the house edge.

Changing the casino will provide psychological comfort to the gambler who has no luck on a particular platform, but this does not mean at all that luck will necessarily be on his side. The whole process may become useless if he has to complete the registration procedures on the new platform, unless he already has accounts at different casinos.

I know that gambling players may change casinos due to negative reviews about security, payouts or service. Switching to a casino with a more positive reputation can increase gambling satisfaction. Plus, a new casino may give access to more favorable bonuses or promotions for its users.

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November 30, 2023, 12:22:25 PM
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All of them are Stock listed companies so it is evident that they are having high liquidity. I mean if they are offering public shares then they are invested by traders thus gaining huge loudmouth apart from the gambling industry itself. Some of them have as much as 3000+ employees working in their offices. They are huge man, no doubt an online gambling website would ever have such high liquidity. The reason is simple they have to rely entirely on the money that is getting deposited by the gamblers. There is no fixed security on an online cashier because a user can always withdraw as much as they want at anytime. However, the ones in OP are having extra backing from the share market. So no comparison between the two type of business model for sure.
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From there individual point of view, there is no need to make accounts on many gambling sites in order to fulfil gambling desires. Since gambling needs only luck to be successful, the luck does not change with the change of the gambling sites. Some people believe that they are more lucky playing at certain sites while unlucky at others, well it is just superstitious thoughts and in reality, a change of sites won't have any impact on your luck.

Although the casino is considered a loser when it pays out the winnings of the winners, in reality it makes no difference to the casino because it will always pay from the money that the gamblers lose, which is always more than what the casino has to pay, or in the most extreme cases they use the money deposited at the house edge.

Changing the casino will provide psychological comfort to the gambler who has no luck on a particular platform, but this does not mean at all that luck will necessarily be on his side. The whole process may become useless if he has to complete the registration procedures on the new platform, unless he already has accounts at different casinos.

I think as individuals, we sometimes look for psychological comfort, or at least try no one so that we won't be that guy that just play on one casino and become loyal to them. So yeah, why not try other reputable casinos along the way.

Who knows, maybe your luck will change for the better if you are willing to risk and deposit money to a new casinos. So for me, I don't see wrong with creating on many gambling sites. Yes, there could be superstitions, as gamblers is known to be like that, however, for me, there is that beginners luck that you might experience if you try new sites.

In fact, there may be better opportunities to change the casino in certain cases when the casino is new and grants privileges to new registrants such as bonuses on the first deposit and free spins. This will increase the probability of winning since the number of attempts will increase given the value of the bonus.

However, we must not forget that new casinos come with a high risk rate due to the lack or absence of reviews on them, and also that the first deposit bonus is determined by the value of the deposit, which increases the risk rate the higher the value of that first deposit.

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December 01, 2023, 08:23:09 AM
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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.
It's not just about the fact that reputable casinos can pay a gambler if they manage to win something big, but they are generally considered to be safe because a casino with a low reputation among the gambling community might refuse to pay a gambler if they win a big amount by making some excuse by banning or blocking their accounts or maybe asking for requirements that aren't fulfillable by the gambler just so that they give up on the money and leave.

When a gambler joins a reputable gambling platform, they have the surety that there won't be any problems with their deposits and withdrawals as long as they have complied with all their rules and regulations and have completed all the requirements put ahead by the casino which is why such platforms have good reputation.

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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.
It's not just about the fact that reputable casinos can pay a gambler if they manage to win something big, but they are generally considered to be safe because a casino with a low reputation among the gambling community might refuse to pay a gambler if they win a big amount by making some excuse by banning or blocking their accounts or maybe asking for requirements that aren't fulfillable by the gambler just so that they give up on the money and leave.

When a gambler joins a reputable gambling platform, they have the surety that there won't be any problems with their deposits and withdrawals as long as they have complied with all their rules and regulations and have completed all the requirements put ahead by the casino which is why such platforms have good reputation.

That's the difference, I think that anyone who plays a good game in a casino aspires to make sure everything doesn't go wrong, that is, to win in a casino, which rarely happens, but when it happens and the casino refuses to withdraw the money, it is something that is already annoying, and if it is about how the casino can do to have everything good in its maximum potential , to Create a good reputation is to demonstrate that there will be no problems with nothing, the first thing I do with a casino is that, check its reputation and it is obvious that you have to go for the casino with the best reputation, because it is assumed that there will be no problems and if there are, they make sure that it does not happen to older, that is what a good casino guarantees.

I don't trust the casinos that are new, they are for me casinos that have to be very careful, because a deposit or something like that is easy to make and Accept but the problem is when making Withdrawals , either due to the requirements of KYC or casino policies.

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December 03, 2023, 10:26:39 PM
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Gambling in a reputable casino doesn't mean that the gambler must win, the only thing I see there is that everyone will just respect them selfs and will be treated equally no matter how much one has lost or even win.
However, the chances of winning might be there are it will just be one gambler and a system and not more gamblers with just one system but on the local casino that doesn't have a good reputation (either offline or online) sometimes even those a gambler win hug amount of money, there will not be enough money for the company to pay the winner, but it is not like that in a good and reputable casino.
It's not just about the fact that reputable casinos can pay a gambler if they manage to win something big, but they are generally considered to be safe because a casino with a low reputation among the gambling community might refuse to pay a gambler if they win a big amount by making some excuse by banning or blocking their accounts or maybe asking for requirements that aren't fulfillable by the gambler just so that they give up on the money and leave.

When a gambler joins a reputable gambling platform, they have the surety that there won't be any problems with their deposits and withdrawals as long as they have complied with all their rules and regulations and have completed all the requirements put ahead by the casino which is why such platforms have good reputation.

if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.

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December 04, 2023, 03:10:37 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.

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December 07, 2023, 04:38:24 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.

It is for this reason that when we are going to choose a casino to play, we have to be very careful because in most cases they always do several things to have the best of all confidence and not waste time in a casino that will not pay us later, If we create an account at stake.com,. bitcasino.io, among other casinos that are very nice and have a high reputation and very very reliable, because we do not have any type of problem with withdrawals or with demands from casinos where they no longer do other things but have a good time and put everything in evidence to have the best options to pass and have the best experience, for these reasons we as good players have to see and trust in what is most reliable, in what is safe, yes, I know that there are many options to be able to play and win in others casinos that do not have the same trust, and yet players take risks with casinos that have no Reputation and do not even have a thread Ann on bitcointalk, which makes me even more suspicious.

For now, things when they are reliable Casinos are what works for me , there is no other way, I have seen that there are newbies who are very believers in everything they are told on the internet , in what they see on Google, and what Others recommend it in unreliable forums, because they are more open and do not guarantee security, I personally give a lot of importance to my Money and I believe that we should all be like that, we have many things we can do, the first thing is to investigate , see if the casino in question is worth it and if it can bring benefits to us, Otherwise I don't See it well, I think that things have a lot to give to have more Confidence , I would think that the casinos that are reliable can be taken more, because our money is somehow safer , which we must do if it complies with the KYC , but the Channels that are reliable do not have so many Obstacles for that.

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December 08, 2023, 05:12:40 AM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
Thank you for this, I had said it here that people who only think of how big a casino is should have to rethink or at least add reputation to their reasons for playing with them. It's a fact that big companies refuse to pay winnings and a small company pays it easily, and the right payment of withdrawals as and when due is what makes gamblers happy. I've worked with many companies when it comes to trading and casinos but none have ever defrauded me. Let me say that I am lucky in one part, but in another part, I would say that kudos to me. Do you know why? It's because I first do my due review and research about the company I want to deal with and I also make sure that I follow the terms and conditions thoroughly.

This has helped me, but still, I can't compare myself with those who are trading or betting with a huge amount of money. These kinds of people are the most victims of gambling and trading fraud and this doesn't exonerate the gambling companies that are well-liquid, at least in all the cases I had followed till the end. To crown it all, it's good to bet with a big casino that is well-capitalised, but at the same time, people should think about other services rendered and how trustworthy they are.

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December 13, 2023, 08:41:19 AM
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We use casinos based on trust and not by rating from diverse bodies or websites. Even some of these reports might also be faulty because the process of gathering these data might not be reliable or valid. We shouldn't also forget that these casinos can also give researchers fake data just to deceive customers. Gamblers should always stake only what they can afford to lose and should always use casinos in the forum. This is because you will have genuine feedback about casinos that is present here.
The issue of trust in sources of information regarding the reliability of any casino unfaamiliar to you is naturally one of the most important issues when a player decides that he wants to play in this particular casino.  In this process, players can easily rely on the information that is provided in the topics of the corresponding casinos on our forum.  I would even put the objectivity of player reviews in the relevant topics of a particular casino on the forum in first place compared to other information platforms.

 Another important question, naturally, is the question of how exactly a player makes the final decision to trust a particular casino and confidently deposits a lot of money in such a casino.  In this matter, every player, I think, has some kind of boundary that he crosses and no longer even thinks about the fact that the reliability of the casino may not be as high as it seemed to him.  All this also depends on what psychotype this player has and how prone he is to risky behavior.

Liquidity is important to be honest because it is not to be liked when you have made honest earnings - sometimes happens you know - and you really need to have it back for any imperious need. It can be really annoying to have to wait, and that can very well be caused because a site is not liquid enough so they will just put excuses to not allowing the withdrawal right that moment.
I like to gamble with the best and most reputable casinos, but this is not because I primarily look for where there is enough fund, I only believe that the more the company is big and has a good review online, the better. Another thing is that gambling with such a company makes me feel a better sense of touch as I do not like to settle for less at all. By this bigness, I naturally gamble with a well-capitalised casino, but still, this is not the only or should I say the best criterion to choose a casino, especially if you are such that is gambling with a small amount. Some casinos can be well-liquid and still deprive you of your winning and start citing reasons for not paying you, while some will not even answer you. All that matters is for you to rather gamble with a reputable companies with integrity, and if truly they are, they will certainly find the means to pay you your winnings. There are no good casinos that would allow a bet that its reward can't be able to be paid by it, always note that.
This is a completely correct and reasonable approach to playing in a casino from the point of view of ensuring reliability and predictability in terms of receiving your winnings if you are lucky in the game and win some serious amount.
 I think this is very important simply because the player, during the game, and even after it, does not need to fill his head with thoughts that the casino might somehow try to deceive him and not give him the money.  And vice versa - in not very reliable casinos they can always find some false reasons for not paying out winnings.  And then a dilemma arises: either start a correspondence with support and the result of this correspondence is unknown in advance, or simply accept the loss of this winnings and continue to lose it without withdrawing it from the deposit to your wallet. 

But in any case, this is a waste of your time on correspondence with support and your wasted nerve cells due to irritation and annoyance.

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December 14, 2023, 09:05:00 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
Thank you for this, I had said it here that people who only think of how big a casino is should have to rethink or at least add reputation to their reasons for playing with them. It's a fact that big companies refuse to pay winnings and a small company pays it easily, and the right payment of withdrawals as and when due is what makes gamblers happy. I've worked with many companies when it comes to trading and casinos but none have ever defrauded me. Let me say that I am lucky in one part, but in another part, I would say that kudos to me. Do you know why? It's because I first do my due review and research about the company I want to deal with and I also make sure that I follow the terms and conditions thoroughly.

This has helped me, but still, I can't compare myself with those who are trading or betting with a huge amount of money. These kinds of people are the most victims of gambling and trading fraud and this doesn't exonerate the gambling companies that are well-liquid, at least in all the cases I had followed till the end. To crown it all, it's good to bet with a big casino that is well-capitalised, but at the same time, people should think about other services rendered and how trustworthy they are.

Well it's strange, because nowadays a caisno who refuses to pay someone is because it is clearly a scam, there may be many reasons why they can say something like that, but on a personal level I have always thought that people's perosanques are all the time looking for a way To do something well in a casino is difficult, because mostly when things are like that, it is very easy to enter a casino and they tell you that you have to deposit and do many other things to be able to be well, but when it is done and everything is in order It could also be that the KYC process has already passed and they don't want to stop. That already means that things are not going well, that it is best to assume that this was lost and that's it, unfortunately it is like that, I have been through things Thus, and it is best not to go to casinos like those anymore, but rather prefer the casinos that have always had a good reputation and that have great trust, this type of casino is very nice and has a high reputation.

What can be done in cases like this is that, of course you try to fight so that they can give you what you deserve, but sometimes it is impossible, and having a bad time, they make you wait days so that in the end they don't give anything, It's something because one gets tired, exhausted, sometimes that happens, for that reason I have always seen that things are the way they are with casinos like that, well, nothing to do with it, one has to make a notice or here in the forum warning how they are. things, so that no one falls into casinos of this style, because not only can anyone fall in, but the most novices are the most likely to be scammed and that is not the idea either, in this forum it serves as a portal to help others and so they can provide a better service to everyone, apart from what they seek is to contribute and do great management here, what better way than to say which casinos have had bad experiences like these, even though it doesn't take long to know which casinos act in a bad way.

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January 17, 2024, 08:27:08 AM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
Thank you for this, I had said it here that people who only think of how big a casino is should have to rethink or at least add reputation to their reasons for playing with them. It's a fact that big companies refuse to pay winnings and a small company pays it easily, and the right payment of withdrawals as and when due is what makes gamblers happy. I've worked with many companies when it comes to trading and casinos but none have ever defrauded me. Let me say that I am lucky in one part, but in another part, I would say that kudos to me. Do you know why? It's because I first do my due review and research about the company I want to deal with and I also make sure that I follow the terms and conditions thoroughly.

This has helped me, but still, I can't compare myself with those who are trading or betting with a huge amount of money. These kinds of people are the most victims of gambling and trading fraud and this doesn't exonerate the gambling companies that are well-liquid, at least in all the cases I had followed till the end. To crown it all, it's good to bet with a big casino that is well-capitalised, but at the same time, people should think about other services rendered and how trustworthy they are.

Well it's strange, because nowadays a caisno who refuses to pay someone is because it is clearly a scam, there may be many reasons why they can say something like that, but on a personal level I have always thought that people's perosanques are all the time looking for a way To do something well in a casino is difficult, because mostly when things are like that, it is very easy to enter a casino and they tell you that you have to deposit and do many other things to be able to be well, but when it is done and everything is in order It could also be that the KYC process has already passed and they don't want to stop. That already means that things are not going well, that it is best to assume that this was lost and that's it, unfortunately it is like that, I have been through things Thus, and it is best not to go to casinos like those anymore, but rather prefer the casinos that have always had a good reputation and that have great trust, this type of casino is very nice and has a high reputation.

What can be done in cases like this is that, of course you try to fight so that they can give you what you deserve, but sometimes it is impossible, and having a bad time, they make you wait days so that in the end they don't give anything, It's something because one gets tired, exhausted, sometimes that happens, for that reason I have always seen that things are the way they are with casinos like that, well, nothing to do with it, one has to make a notice or here in the forum warning how they are. things, so that no one falls into casinos of this style, because not only can anyone fall in, but the most novices are the most likely to be scammed and that is not the idea either, in this forum it serves as a portal to help others and so they can provide a better service to everyone, apart from what they seek is to contribute and do great management here, what better way than to say which casinos have had bad experiences like these, even though it doesn't take long to know which casinos act in a bad way.
Perhaps the only thing that can be done in such a situation is when it becomes clear to you that you will not receive your money once transferred to the casino, or even more so the money you won, from the casino unless you go through their KYC in some strict form with photographs of your face and documents  , scans of receipts for utility bills, confirming the address of residence and other inventions for personal identification, it’s just to put this question aside and try not to think about this loss for a while.  You can also think philosophically about the essence of money and its impact on our lives.  It’s also worth thinking about the fact that in any case, you will still end up spending most of the money that you earned in different ways.
 But, of course, this does not apply to those players who boldly provide Personal Data to all sites where they were only asked to do KYC.  But I would still advise you to take KYC more seriously in cases where organizations unknown in advance ask you to provide a set of Personal Data.  It is best to avoid providing this data whenever possible.

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January 17, 2024, 11:15:19 AM
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The most liquid companies in the gambling industry I just read and read some of it and google it and found this gambling thing is crazy as f*ck.

I never knew that the gambling industry is so big as this I just randomly did a Google search about Sinopharm Hong Kong and found out that the companies is publicly traded companies. I just think all the gambling-related thing is private company but there are a lot of public companies as well.

All of them are Stock listed companies so it is evident that they are having high liquidity. I mean if they are offering public shares then they are invested by traders thus gaining huge loudmouth apart from the gambling industry itself. Some of them have as much as 3000+ employees working in their offices. They are huge man, no doubt an online gambling website would ever have such high liquidity. The reason is simple they have to rely entirely on the money that is getting deposited by the gamblers. There is no fixed security on an online cashier because a user can always withdraw as much as they want at anytime. However, the ones in OP are having extra backing from the share market. So no comparison between the two type of business model for sure.

What a crazy shit right but I am also curious about the private companies since their financial data is kept secret but I do believe there is one or two companies that so big but keep their company private

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January 17, 2024, 02:30:49 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
Are you preaching low or winning for gamblers? Because that is the only way they can be exonerated in this regard. In case you don't know, most gamblers are merely the victim of the house, not the allegation(s) levied against them are true. You said it as if casinos are always sincere with their allegations when they do not want to pay their customers. Enough shits are happening in the gambling industry, just pray that you are not a victim. Gambling with a reputable casino will always be the best option, it will limit the chance at which you can be swindled in a situation like this to the barest minimum. But thinking that it is when gamblers only play by the rule that they will not be affected by the bad claims of the casinos, you are not just right in that aspect.

A lot of them don't just like you if you are a good bettor, many will not even pay you a small amount due to greed and because they believe they always deserve to have people's money and when it is in their coffer it can't be given back. Not to mention big money. Let's just pray that we are with the right casinos, liquidity is a good factor here after the bettor has already researched for their reputations. In addition, if the casino is big enough in terms of the active customer base, well liquid and has a somewhat good reputation online, I think it is a Go as the chance of having issues with them will be little especially if you play by the rules.

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You are absolutely right, when we are on platforms of that Sstyle we have to make sure of many things , the First is that we must see Clearly what we are not Getting into , whether it is worth it or not, when it comes to deciding how we are going to do Well , now everything KYC is Mandatory and it is as you say, perhaps for some Platforms this provides Security due to the number of requirements they have to keep up to date, but it could be said that things when they are directly Brought so that they can execute any type of important requirement such as a retio because we realize that it may be Unavailable to them, and there is nothing to do but Fulfill it to Provide them with security as well, this is something that we cannot avoid, in any case when we are in Exchanges , when we are in a casino we Decided to be in them, because the first thing I would do and Recommend doing is comply with the KYC , because it is the only way that you can have something fixed and good.

It is very unpleasant when we are playing and if we Manage to win that when we leave they tell us no, because that has happened to many and it is to be very sad, I have seen that there are people who when that happens to them they do not come back more and with all Logic  , I would be one who would not return either. In that aspect I am very delicate and I always take care that something like this happens to me, that is the Exception that physical casinos have, that if you win they give you the money at once and there is no Anyway, those things are what we should see, that always happens here and anywhere, whenever we do any type of event because we can generate more action to make everything in the casino more fluid and more with the Money is the most precious thing in a Casino , because many can say yes , that they have fun and everything, but nothing like winning money, some only go Looking for that , and later when the casino Matures it is seen Differently.

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January 23, 2024, 11:28:13 AM
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You are absolutely right, when we are on platforms of that Sstyle we have to make sure of many things , the First is that we must see Clearly what we are not Getting into , whether it is worth it or not, when it comes to deciding how we are going to do Well , now everything KYC is Mandatory and it is as you say, perhaps for some Platforms this provides Security due to the number of requirements they have to keep up to date, but it could be said that things when they are directly Brought so that they can execute any type of important requirement such as a retio because we realize that it may be Unavailable to them, and there is nothing to do but Fulfill it to Provide them with security as well, this is something that we cannot avoid, in any case when we are in Exchanges , when we are in a casino we Decided to be in them, because the first thing I would do and Recommend doing is comply with the KYC , because it is the only way that you can have something fixed and good.

It is very unpleasant when we are playing and if we Manage to win that when we leave they tell us no, because that has happened to many and it is to be very sad, I have seen that there are people who when that happens to them they do not come back more and with all Logic  , I would be one who would not return either. In that aspect I am very delicate and I always take care that something like this happens to me, that is the Exception that physical casinos have, that if you win they give you the money at once and there is no Anyway, those things are what we should see, that always happens here and anywhere, whenever we do any type of event because we can generate more action to make everything in the casino more fluid and more with the Money is the most precious thing in a Casino , because many can say yes , that they have fun and everything, but nothing like winning money, some only go Looking for that , and later when the casino Matures it is seen Differently.
When you distribute your personal data, which is naturally confidential information with limited access, not only in authorized government bodies, but also in all kinds of services on the Internet, which are simply an option for someone’s private business, you obviously expose your personal data to danger. 
And if you have distributed such KYC to a dozen or a hundred casinos, exchanges, payment services, online stores and other organizations, then you can almost be sure that as a result your Personal data will no longer be confidential as a result of information leaks or database hacks.
 And your data will be accessible on the Internet to almost any network user.  And this automatically reduces your level of security.  Therefore, you need to approach the issues of providing KYC very carefully when you are offered to do it.

 For example, 2 days ago information appeared about the leak of Personal data of people who purchased a cold Trezor crypto wallet starting in 2021.  So, as a result, the data of more than 60,000 people has already appeared in the public domain.  And this is an obvious and clear indication of the owners of cryptocurrencies.  This is quite dangerous for some of these privacy-lost citizens.

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January 24, 2024, 09:15:24 PM
 #111

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You are absolutely right, when we are on platforms of that Sstyle we have to make sure of many things , the First is that we must see Clearly what we are not Getting into , whether it is worth it or not, when it comes to deciding how we are going to do Well , now everything KYC is Mandatory and it is as you say, perhaps for some Platforms this provides Security due to the number of requirements they have to keep up to date, but it could be said that things when they are directly Brought so that they can execute any type of important requirement such as a retio because we realize that it may be Unavailable to them, and there is nothing to do but Fulfill it to Provide them with security as well, this is something that we cannot avoid, in any case when we are in Exchanges , when we are in a casino we Decided to be in them, because the first thing I would do and Recommend doing is comply with the KYC , because it is the only way that you can have something fixed and good.

It is very unpleasant when we are playing and if we Manage to win that when we leave they tell us no, because that has happened to many and it is to be very sad, I have seen that there are people who when that happens to them they do not come back more and with all Logic  , I would be one who would not return either. In that aspect I am very delicate and I always take care that something like this happens to me, that is the Exception that physical casinos have, that if you win they give you the money at once and there is no Anyway, those things are what we should see, that always happens here and anywhere, whenever we do any type of event because we can generate more action to make everything in the casino more fluid and more with the Money is the most precious thing in a Casino , because many can say yes , that they have fun and everything, but nothing like winning money, some only go Looking for that , and later when the casino Matures it is seen Differently.
When you distribute your personal data, which is naturally confidential information with limited access, not only in authorized government bodies, but also in all kinds of services on the Internet, which are simply an option for someone’s private business, you obviously expose your personal data to danger. 
And if you have distributed such KYC to a dozen or a hundred casinos, exchanges, payment services, online stores and other organizations, then you can almost be sure that as a result your Personal data will no longer be confidential as a result of information leaks or database hacks.
 And your data will be accessible on the Internet to almost any network user.  And this automatically reduces your level of security.  Therefore, you need to approach the issues of providing KYC very carefully when you are offered to do it.

 For example, 2 days ago information appeared about the leak of Personal data of people who purchased a cold Trezor crypto wallet starting in 2021.  So, as a result, the data of more than 60,000 people has already appeared in the public domain.  And this is an obvious and clear indication of the owners of cryptocurrencies.  This is quite dangerous for some of these privacy-lost citizens.


​That's right, when we are giving data like that Anywhere, it is evident that it became public and that now our things that have to do with our data will be compromised , I Sometimes Understand the people who do not give their KYC for Nothing in the world and they Moved away from online caisnso only to offer that what they do is important, in this other order of ideas things can turn out very differently if we see them from the most optimal point of view and things may have happened in the wrong way. clearer that this type of data is not leaked, for Example every time we are in a casino we must be aware that we should not do anything else but know that in that casino we should not give a KYC so that our data is not Distributing as you say, there are casinos that accept things without KYC until a maximum amount is withdrawn , and beyond that amount, KYC is required.

In this order of ideas, things cannot happen as we Believe they can be so relevant , for example , there are casinos that are relatively new and they require KYC as if it were a banking entity, I immediately cross out that casino and do not return again. At least in a few months we will see if the casino is good or not, that is, if the Casino does not turn out to be fraudulent or Something like that , because it is quite difficult if our data is also leaked and can be very determining in this sense. .

Now if we consider that our privacy and anonymity are Enough , we must do things well, we must not immediately jump into the fact that we have to do what they say, I am very distrustful, because the leaking of this data can give us a bad time In my case I'm not a whale or anything like that, but maybe these types of things are delicate, they shouldn't put so much Emphasis on it.

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January 24, 2024, 10:05:14 PM
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Maybe we should know this for now in case of the benefits of those who don't know much about this gambling platforms, talking from the general perspective, gambling platforms has money and are one of the richest sectors we could ever imagined, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with the way we gamble or how we make a win if they are having money or not, but those that are most liquid among others don't hesitate spending money to maintain their operations unlike others who don't.



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January 25, 2024, 02:41:56 PM
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Maybe we should know this for now in case of the benefits of those who don't know much about this gambling platforms, talking from the general perspective, gambling platforms has money and are one of the richest sectors we could ever imagined, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with the way we gamble or how we make a win if they are having money or not, but those that are most liquid among others don't hesitate spending money to maintain their operations unlike others who don't.
No doubt, the gambling industry is a rich one that has been gaining more relevance over time and continues to increase its capital rating which means it is progressive and liquid enough. But this is the whole industry and not individual casinos, we have to treat them individually based on how good they are in liquidity before we deal with them. But oftentimes, people are just exaggerating on this, they do not know the liquidity of any casino, or is there a modality that lets people know the true worth of their casino? I doubt that since all are fake online, and that is if you will be furnished with such information online at all. Nevertheless, casinos like Stake and others are more liquid. I came to that conclusion because of the news and headlines we read/see about them.

Think about it, with the over $40 million hack that Stake suffered last year, it is not many casinos that will be able to survive without liquidating. Not to mention other programs that have to do with huge money which they are known for, which makes Stake a well-liquid casino. Others have some trackable remarks too, they are so popular that news channels can propagate about them, but only a few casinos' dealings are revealed, while their worths will always remain hidden from the general public. Now, it is good to gamble with a well-liquid casino, and one of the reasons is that they will not likely withhold your withdrawal if you are fair with your plays. This is not about exonerating them from excesses but such casinos that are highly liquid will not often be so greedy for some amount of money compared to those who are less liquid and are seriously hungry for the money.

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January 25, 2024, 07:44:26 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.

This is one of the reasons I do take it an effort to advise others from abstaining away from what may look suspicious on them with the use of a gambling platform, because if they should detect anything, it's going to bounce back on us heavily, some cannot afford loosing their account because of the money on it and stages they have achieved while using it, we should also put ourselves in their conditions too.



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Last edit: February 02, 2024, 11:15:49 AM by delfastTions
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When you distribute your personal data, which is naturally confidential information with limited access, not only in authorized government bodies, but also in all kinds of services on the Internet, which are simply an option for someone’s private business, you obviously expose your personal data to danger. 
And if you have distributed such KYC to a dozen or a hundred casinos, exchanges, payment services, online stores and other organizations, then you can almost be sure that as a result your Personal data will no longer be confidential as a result of information leaks or database hacks.
 And your data will be accessible on the Internet to almost any network user.  And this automatically reduces your level of security.  Therefore, you need to approach the issues of providing KYC very carefully when you are offered to do it.

 For example, 2 days ago information appeared about the leak of Personal data of people who purchased a cold Trezor crypto wallet starting in 2021.  So, as a result, the data of more than 60,000 people has already appeared in the public domain.  And this is an obvious and clear indication of the owners of cryptocurrencies.  This is quite dangerous for some of these privacy-lost citizens.


​That's right, when we are giving data like that Anywhere, it is evident that it became public and that now our things that have to do with our data will be compromised , I Sometimes Understand the people who do not give their KYC for Nothing in the world and they Moved away from online caisnso only to offer that what they do is important, in this other order of ideas things can turn out very differently if we see them from the most optimal point of view and things may have happened in the wrong way. clearer that this type of data is not leaked, for Example every time we are in a casino we must be aware that we should not do anything else but know that in that casino we should not give a KYC so that our data is not Distributing as you say, there are casinos that accept things without KYC until a maximum amount is withdrawn , and beyond that amount, KYC is required.

In this order of ideas, things cannot happen as we Believe they can be so relevant , for example , there are casinos that are relatively new and they require KYC as if it were a banking entity, I immediately cross out that casino and do not return again. At least in a few months we will see if the casino is good or not, that is, if the Casino does not turn out to be fraudulent or Something like that , because it is quite difficult if our data is also leaked and can be very determining in this sense. .

Now if we consider that our privacy and anonymity are Enough , we must do things well, we must not immediately jump into the fact that we have to do what they say, I am very distrustful, because the leaking of this data can give us a bad time In my case I'm not a whale or anything like that, but maybe these types of things are delicate, they shouldn't put so much Emphasis on it.

It is absolutely correct that you immediately exclude from your sphere of interests as a gambling casino player, which begins to request too much personal data.
 And especially if the volume of such data is comparable to what the bank requests from clients when it provides, for example, a loan. The question is why does any casino require from you, for example, from a scanned copy of the receipt for utility payments, confirming your real address where you live  This, of course, is a violation of the law on personal data on the part of the casino.  and the collection of information is carried out for marketing and trading of this data in the future.  and in general, when providing your personal data to a private business, you need to be careful and attentive, since it is undeniable how well they store this Personal data.  And how great is the likelihood of this data leaking into the public information space of the Internet.

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January 31, 2024, 08:34:33 PM
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Maybe we should know this for now in case of the benefits of those who don't know much about this gambling platforms, talking from the general perspective, gambling platforms has money and are one of the richest sectors we could ever imagined, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with the way we gamble or how we make a win if they are having money or not, but those that are most liquid among others don't hesitate spending money to maintain their operations unlike others who don't.
No doubt, the gambling industry is a rich one that has been gaining more relevance over time and continues to increase its capital rating which means it is progressive and liquid enough. But this is the whole industry and not individual casinos, we have to treat them individually based on how good they are in liquidity before we deal with them. But oftentimes, people are just exaggerating on this, they do not know the liquidity of any casino, or is there a modality that lets people know the true worth of their casino? I doubt that since all are fake online, and that is if you will be furnished with such information online at all.

We indeed have to treat them one after the other as individuals than the way we generalized them all together, there's this stand that some will be rich by default and virtue of their developers and those that owns it while some will have to swindles in their way up the ladder to get famous and make their own money as well, though there might be series of competitions among them, and just as you've said, there are many ways they make it appear like we are not aware on how they were faking it.



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January 31, 2024, 08:49:23 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.


I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.

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February 01, 2024, 06:46:15 AM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.


I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.

I usually don't go on casinos which doesn't have any thread in this forum and prove their reputation to the community since its hard to risk our money there. We know rampant scamming happened in the industry that's why much better for certain individual to just choose those casino since they have a platform where they can report their bad experiences since if they choose those casino which doesn't have threads anywhere then for sure they might struggle to go after with them since they don't have any means to report them.

I heard some of those casino but never bother to try them since for me the casino's available in this forum is much better choice to choose and I'm kinda suspicious to random thing that I see online that's why usually I don't choose them and hope other people will give weights regarding on this matter especially on how they select casino to play.

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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

Sometimes we can see that there are criminals who can rob houses, some people specifically, but how did they know that they had Bitcoin, how did they know that they had that type of things in their hands? Or is there a way to do it because these are people who had never in their lives let their data in a bank or anything, only in casinos, exchanges, how would I know what crimes they had X amount of money? That's why information leaks cause this to happen, so how can we trust? In any case, there are always ways that things are known and are like this, nothing is certain, in fact this is how I believe in the safest case, things with hacking are unvetigable, despite the fact that there is so much security in the data in the databases. People can speak leaks and that is something that they cannot see or do anything about, I am one of the people who firmly believe that, there is nothing more to do but that.

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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.


I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.

I usually don't go on casinos which doesn't have any thread in this forum and prove their reputation to the community since its hard to risk our money there. We know rampant scamming happened in the industry that's why much better for certain individual to just choose those casino since they have a platform where they can report their bad experiences since if they choose those casino which doesn't have threads anywhere then for sure they might struggle to go after with them since they don't have any means to report them.

I heard some of those casino but never bother to try them since for me the casino's available in this forum is much better choice to choose and I'm kinda suspicious to random thing that I see online that's why usually I don't choose them and hope other people will give weights regarding on this matter especially on how they select casino to play.
Same here, whenever i do look for something new specially if its crypto related then this forum itself would really be the most ideal place that you could look for when it comes to information that you could really be able to seek on. We do know that this forum  does have that kind of verification whether the site is really that worth to engage on basing up with those real time feedbacks and comments on which you could really be able to check out whether it would really be worth for you to engage on or not. This is why it would really be that so hard to trust up any sites specially new ones
on the time that they dont have any reputation or known feedbacks that you could check upon. This is why i do really always stick into those platforms who does have that
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.


I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.

I usually don't go on casinos which doesn't have any thread in this forum and prove their reputation to the community since its hard to risk our money there. We know rampant scamming happened in the industry that's why much better for certain individual to just choose those casino since they have a platform where they can report their bad experiences since if they choose those casino which doesn't have threads anywhere then for sure they might struggle to go after with them since they don't have any means to report them.

I heard some of those casino but never bother to try them since for me the casino's available in this forum is much better choice to choose and I'm kinda suspicious to random thing that I see online that's why usually I don't choose them and hope other people will give weights regarding on this matter especially on how they select casino to play.
Same here, whenever i do look for something new specially if its crypto related then this forum itself would really be the most ideal place that you could look for when it comes to information that you could really be able to seek on. We do know that this forum  does have that kind of verification whether the site is really that worth to engage on basing up with those real time feedbacks and comments on which you could really be able to check out whether it would really be worth for you to engage on or not. This is why it would really be that so hard to trust up any sites specially new ones
on the time that they dont have any reputation or known feedbacks that you could check upon. This is why i do really always stick into those platforms who does have that
kind of information that i could check upon.
You are right, good Numbers to play with , because it is ideal to let people know that the forum has very good ways of doing things here , there are people who are dedicated Only to Making Reviews of investigating casinos to see what they are like, what the things they do are like In withdrawals , such as the KYC process, whether they approve it Quickly or not , how old they are , those are the things they always have to do , so in this Order of ideas things can be done Better if we see all of that thing , Sometimes our investigations have to be Deeper and with more detail, sometimes we with little experience do not know how to do or see the Things that we Should Actually look for, so when we are looking for the best places we have to be or Choose very well because It is money that we are Going to put into the Sites , it is not just Anything.

Now when we are looking for ways to Send things , we have to Consider More,   for Example , when I am searching on Google , some type of information I look for in forums , because the forums are more Specific, they have more detailed information And that is what we Should See, the Information that is not normally found on the web, on a Page , but in the forums.

As I said before, there are many People in the Forum Who are Dedicated to trying the casino, who are dedicated to doing things so that others Avoid being People who Scam them , that is the only thing that should be avoided, therefore when we all make any Gesture to Avoid the bad , the bitcointalk Forum offers us not only the reviewers, but also the Ann Threads of the Sites , in my Personal opinion I do not trust any other casino that is not here in the forum , it is the only Way I can To trust is that they have Threads here and that there Seems to be a Community , Otherwise I'll take the risk , I learned that a long time ago.

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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

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February 02, 2024, 08:51:32 PM
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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

Well, that is something that we must see as a problem that politicians should focus on solving, because if they are politicians and supposedly they were put there in those coargos, the people, then they should help, but as things currently are, the interests, the conflict of They are very interested in what they put and are biased towards what people are looking for, or being a common human being what they are looking for, in this order of ideas, we are people who are always going to generate whatever it takes to be able to have the best possible in the Yes, things, but this is always about seeking improvements for people who want and seek to improve their financial level, that is something that very few see, as far as I am concerned I can sometimes see that regulation financing systems in crypto for Any country they will always require people to leave their data, and everything they ask, in a very cursory way but that they leave it, which I don't think, but they always look for better opinions for that.

Now when we are looking for ways to do things while protecting our Privacy and Anonymity , that is when there Should be some protection in each country for that, things should not be done for the worse all the time, if I want to preserve my anonymity , that It must be respected, those who want to leave their KYC is something else , I believe that in this world we are free to choose our great option of doing things, if we want you will have anonymity and Privacy , things must be done well, they must always be exercise so that we can have the best possible in things of protection, in the governments so far what I have seen, they want to have the registry of the people who will make transactions with crypto, in exchanges, casinos and everything that has to do See with it, then thanks to that, adoption is not a complete fact due to those KYC Requirements that not Everyone likes.



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February 02, 2024, 09:23:41 PM
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These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.

I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.
The casinos that we have on this forum are all cryptocurrency casinos and no matter how popular and big they are, there will always be companies that will be more liquid and big than them when it comes to finances and stuff. Besides, a company doesn't necessarily have to have platforms with its name, which means that its products can be named differently and we might have seen or known their products but we never knew the parent companies.

There are a lot of fiat gambling companies that are way more popular and big than cryptocurrency gambling platforms, and the gambling industry is huge when it comes to liquidity. We all know how much money a legit casino earns if it has a lot of users and gamblers since most gamblers lose money in the long run.

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February 02, 2024, 09:30:52 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
No matter the level of wisdom that the gambler seems to apply, a shaddy casino will alwys fine ways to denied him of her the winning if they feels that the gambler has won a substantive amount that could affect their liquidity at some point, this how to know the legit casinos from the scams that promote themselves around.
More, you can easily know a highly liquid casino with the way and manner in which they make their winning payout without any excuses or even attempt to withhold or deny the gambler their winnings.

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Well, that is something that we must see as a problem that politicians should focus on solving, because if they are politicians and supposedly they were put there in those coargos, the people, then they should help, but as things currently are, the interests, the conflict of They are very interested in what they put and are biased towards what people are looking for, or being a common human being what they are looking for, in this order of ideas, we are people who are always going to generate whatever it takes to be able to have the best possible in the Yes, things, but this is always about seeking improvements for people who want and seek to improve their financial level, that is something that very few see, as far as I am concerned I can sometimes see that regulation financing systems in crypto for Any country they will always require people to leave their data, and everything they ask, in a very cursory way but that they leave it, which I don't think, but they always look for better opinions for that.

Now when we are looking for ways to do things while protecting our Privacy and Anonymity , that is when there Should be some protection in each country for that, things should not be done for the worse all the time, if I want to preserve my anonymity , that It must be respected, those who want to leave their KYC is something else , I believe that in this world we are free to choose our great option of doing things, if we want you will have anonymity and Privacy , things must be done well, they must always be exercise so that we can have the best possible in things of protection, in the governments so far what I have seen, they want to have the registry of the people who will make transactions with crypto, in exchanges, casinos and everything that has to do See with it, then thanks to that, adoption is not a complete fact due to those KYC Requirements that not Everyone likes.


Total control over the financial flows and financial situation of people all over the world is of course just a dream for any government in any country.  Then you can clearly keep all people on a short leash.  Those who are richer can be strangled with taxes.  And those who are poorer can also be forced to work hard and productively.  And, moreover, pay such people only so that these people would not be hungry and would have some kind of simple housing and could pay for utilities.  So it turns out that cryptocurrencies are theoretically beyond the control of the authorities.  And payments then become uncontrollable.  And of course, the authorities will encourage and even demand from all business structures that they must introduce KYC.  And then this data would be given to officials for control.  But humanity, having such an excellent anonymous tool as cryptocurrency, must resist the authorities’ attack on the right of anonymity and the right to private life of a citizen.  I hope that the process of countering KYC will continue.

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February 03, 2024, 12:49:33 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
No matter the level of wisdom that the gambler seems to apply, a shaddy casino will alwys fine ways to denied him of her the winning if they feels that the gambler has won a substantive amount that could affect their liquidity at some point, this how to know the legit casinos from the scams that promote themselves around.
More, you can easily know a highly liquid casino with the way and manner in which they make their winning payout without any excuses or even attempt to withhold or deny the gambler their winnings.
With the application of technology in every online gambling Casinos, I believe that every casino usually have a limit of amount that any player can win in which ever casino he or she is playing on, casino set their highest winning amount to an amount that is completely based on what their liquidity looks like at every given point in time.

Like for example, when you are betting on sports on Stake.com, depending on how high the odds of a game is, if you want to bet an amount of money that will give you a potential winning amount that is far above the limit to which stake allows player to win, such bet will not be placed, but rather, will return an error message, telling you that your potential winning amount have exceeded the limit allowed to win, you will either have to reduce the amount of money you are betting on that game, or find a way to bring the odds down a bit so as to reduce your potential winning amount.

If every casino have this type of technology or system implemented in their betting system, a player will never be allowed to win an amount that is above an amount the casino can pay and go bankrupt, no no.

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February 03, 2024, 02:48:22 PM
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Maybe we should know this for now in case of the benefits of those who don't know much about this gambling platforms, talking from the general perspective, gambling platforms has money and are one of the richest sectors we could ever imagined, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with the way we gamble or how we make a win if they are having money or not, but those that are most liquid among others don't hesitate spending money to maintain their operations unlike others who don't.

I think it is self-evident that these companies have a good position in terms of liquidity, whether compared to the rest of the sectors in the economic fabric or the balance sheets of small and medium companies in general.

Casino companies are considered some of the most profitable companies around the world, as players spend long hours playing and betting. Casinos provide the opportunity to win large sums of money easily and quickly, and they also provide an exciting and entertaining experience. In addition, they offer a wide range of gambling games to suit all interests.
And because of modern technology, it has become easy to access many online casino games from anywhere and at any time. Considering these factors, it can be said that casino companies have a huge amount of liquid.

It remains necessary to point out that it is not possible to know the correct amount of liquidity in any of the casinos, especially those that operate online, because the size of their budget enables them to provide technical support to hide this data.

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February 03, 2024, 04:33:03 PM
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These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only deny when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibit gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
For me, since no casino that is popular in this forum is not on that list, it points to a more negative mindset because I doubt the authenticness of this list if the process was transparent or not, this is very important to note since we have some highly reputable and lucidity providers casinos doing good market and having a presence here in the forum, this is the most important thing for most of us since we can directly reach them and see whatever they're doing here in the forum.

I haven't heard of any of those casinos that are present on that list and at that will definitely call for a more holistic process to flow and ops editing and including some legit casinos to the list.
The casinos that we have on this forum are all cryptocurrency casinos and no matter how popular and big they are, there will always be companies that will be more liquid and big than them when it comes to finances and stuff. Besides, a company doesn't necessarily have to have platforms with its name, which means that its products can be named differently and we might have seen or known their products but we never knew the parent companies.

There are a lot of fiat gambling companies that are way more popular and big than cryptocurrency gambling platforms, and the gambling industry is huge when it comes to liquidity. We all know how much money a legit casino earns if it has a lot of users and gamblers since most gamblers lose money in the long run.
Many casinos might not be as liquid as each other but are providing such a spectacular service to their customers, and fine, that is only a reason why liquidity may not be the only thing to consider here, but it will always be one of the factors that make the better casinos. Liquidity, as some might see it is the reason why some casinos would have issues with their huge clients since they are not able to fulfil their obligations to them. They might not be paying attention to the capability of the customer but to the money thinking they would gain from his losses (high risk for the house).

Unfortunately for them at times, the gambler will win more than they barged for and it will be an issue for them because if they actually pay (that's if they have the money at all), it might make them illiquid to fulfil more obligations. That is why you will see some reasonable casinos that will limit the amount you can wager per bet and this varies among casinos. But this can't still be used to judge the capacity of casinos, only that some are more reasonable and managerial than others in case of unforeseen circumstances. And yes, casinos are better at gaining more than their customer as you said, but in a few cases, the case might be ugly as a single gain by customers might be an issue for them if care is not taken.

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February 04, 2024, 12:26:40 AM
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Have heard of only some of these companies like Draftkings and MGM and I am guessing they are all primarily FIAT gambling companies which makes sense since crypto gambling site liquidities pale in comparison to them.

It's odd that you chose to share this information in a crypto gambling forum though op.

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What I understand about liquidity is that in a given channel things work well, if there is some type of very large winner, then once that exit or that liability is covered without affecting the capital of the company. and to be up to date with everything, with your Services and with the payment of the workers' payroll, apart from being well or the security measures and the support of those freelance employees, that is what I see as liquidity, which also needs to be obtained money in a casino to make any type of improvement and so that the casino is Not in danger of Bankruptcy, that is what I consider superior liquidity.

At the company level things are like this, depending on the company model you have , be it American, European, Japanese or according to your DOFA matrix , now if liquidity refers to things being good within the casino, it is another name for me. , but when talking about liquidity it is always associated with the financial state.

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February 05, 2024, 07:54:05 AM
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Have heard of only some of these companies like Draftkings and MGM and I am guessing they are all primarily FIAT gambling companies which makes sense since crypto gambling site liquidities pale in comparison to them.

It's odd that you chose to share this information in a crypto gambling forum though op.
I see nothing odd here, the business models of everyone could be different. Some casinos could be entirely fiat while some could be entirely cryptocurrency, and others could mix the two together, it doesn't matter. We see these three categories daily and it depends on the preference of the bettors and the business model of the casinos themselves. Mind you, all of them are finding their ground in the market and are getting bigger daily, and the bigness of casinos can't ever be limited by whether or not they are crypto-casinos, as far as I am concerned, money is money in this regard whether it is crypto or fiat.

You can't say that because some casinos are dealing with crypto, for this, they are not liquid, is cryptocurrency not money, or at least, is it not an asset, can't it be converted to fiat, and fiat to it? There is huge money in the cryptocurrency market, which is why many casinos that started with only fiat options are now adding cryptocurrency to their deposit and withdrawal options so that they can make more money in this competitive market.

This is liquidity/capitalization, or do you want to say that Bitcoin itself for instance is not liquid? Then you probably may not know the meaning of liquidity if you think that way.

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February 05, 2024, 08:07:17 AM
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It's odd that you chose to share this information in a crypto gambling forum though op.
Fiat gambling casinos and crypto gambling casinos are all into one same business, and that is, gambling, and this place being a place where everything and anything that partains to gambling can be discussed, anything gambling related can actually be posted here regardless of whether the topic is centered around fiat gambling casinos, or crypto gambling casinos, there is no difference aside from the currency, which i am also very sure that most of us here also from time to time, spend some time and money on fiat gambling casinos.

So, absolutely nothing is odd with or about what op have shared here, if you go around this board, you will find numerous threads on stories that relates to fiat gambling casinos, same way we have some that relates to crypto gambling casinos.

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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.

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February 09, 2024, 11:58:14 PM
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Well, when we don't know, let's look at things we can say that when we are doing things well in a casino, if that is the case, to be good with a casino we must do what they ask is to comply with the KYC in every sense. , when things are like this, they are beneficial for them and that is how a good understanding is generated, but that has its dangers, when we are and provide all our data complying with the KYC what is dangerous, in fact there is a thread where details are given about Of these things, with their brokers, with their exhcnges, sometimes when we are at home we do not measure well the things we have to do, when we leave our data things are more difficult, it is more risky, and there are more eligoros in everything In this sense, this is what we should avoid 100%, every time we are making any move, we should be jealous with our data, we should never do things in a crazy way, because it is easy for our data to be leaked.

There is one question that worries me quite a lot when it comes to payments in cryptocurrency. 
I’m talking generally about all the options for transferring cryptocurrency to your partners, including to various centralized services such as exchanges and crypto casinos.  Now you are always faced with a situation where you have to choose: whether to remain anonymous, but there will not be sufficient guarantee from the service for working with your cryptocurrency.  Or go through KYC and provide the service with your Personal Data.  And it seems to you that the guarantees are better and the money is better protected.  As a consumer of such services, I am not satisfied with either the first or second option.  And I absolutely do not want to provide my personal data to just anyone.  So, in the process of developing the crypto industry, I think that services should appear that sufficiently guarantee the player or any other consumer of the services of this service both anonymity and a guarantee of the safety of money in the form of cryptocurrency.  Legislators in all developed countries should finally pay attention to this. 
In any case, I hope that this issue will finally begin to be resolved throughout the world.

It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.

Well, but it is an alternative, you don't have to rule these things out, because that is something that should be done as a person who should promote this type of things so that the KYC disappears, you are very right, they should speed up that process So that they can generate better things to do, I am a very erratic person and I do not believe in the KYC processes, for me it is a total Annoyance, and I think that is something that should not exist, in fact the only way you have to Is that extorting companies, because I am one of those who think that as a client you prefer not to play, the problem with this is when people say that they no longer want to be in lsop caisno online until the requirement is removed? How can companies do it? It can come to a time like that, that is when I think they can opt for the options of Managing cryptocurrencies like Monero , it is the safest for that.

When we are generating a Way of doing things better , We have to Realize that these Alternatives , I imagine, are why caisnos must already have them clear , Investigated and probably close to accepting because they Cannot be left Behind , the People who are at the forefront of the investigation and security of the casino, in reality I Would not Like to be in Charge of the Security of a casino, because it is a lot of work that they have, and I think that it Costs a lot of money , due to the Degree of responsibility that is You see what you have and what you have to assume, the security engineer has to have a team fully dedicated and specialized in blockchain and against all types of Hacking, this is what we generate in casinos, for example the oldest casinos must be up to date so much of this information, that's why we have to be Good with these Things , in Fact this Information Should be Put in the Main things that Everyone Should read in the forum.

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February 10, 2024, 06:52:07 AM
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It's odd that you chose to share this information in a crypto gambling forum though op.
Fiat gambling casinos and crypto gambling casinos are all into one same business, and that is, gambling, and this place being a place where everything and anything that partains to gambling can be discussed, anything gambling related can actually be posted here regardless of whether the topic is centered around fiat gambling casinos, or crypto gambling casinos, there is no difference aside from the currency, which i am also very sure that most of us here also from time to time, spend some time and money on fiat gambling casinos.

So, absolutely nothing is odd with or about what op have shared here, if you go around this board, you will find numerous threads on stories that relates to fiat gambling casinos, same way we have some that relates to crypto gambling casinos.
Both fiat and cryptocurrency casinos are on the same category in this discussion, and the only difference iq010.
.s that, cryptocurrencies payment option on the casino could be an added feature which can attract player,s and since the topic is centered on the most liquid provider in the market ot now very important for those casinos that have a payment system more than those that have a single payment system.


So in that regard, those casinos that accept both fiat and crypto will have more liquidity than the ones that have only one payment system like the crypto casino or a fiat casino, this is what we mostly look out for in most cases, and at some point in time.


For that, we have to focus more on those few casinos, and in doing that we have to outline them and thereafter check their liquidity level before we compare them to each other and then arrive at our final point where we check the volume of the liquidity they provide.

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February 10, 2024, 09:58:10 AM
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It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.

Well, but it is an alternative, you don't have to rule these things out, because that is something that should be done as a person who should promote this type of things so that the KYC disappears, you are very right, they should speed up that process So that they can generate better things to do, I am a very erratic person and I do not believe in the KYC processes, for me it is a total Annoyance, and I think that is something that should not exist, in fact the only way you have to Is that extorting companies, because I am one of those who think that as a client you prefer not to play, the problem with this is when people say that they no longer want to be in lsop caisno online until the requirement is removed? How can companies do it? It can come to a time like that, that is when I think they can opt for the options of Managing cryptocurrencies like Monero , it is the safest for that.

It is likely that Monero would indeed be perfect for providing complete anonymity for players.  However, we must admit that this cryptocurrency is too little widespread in general in the world of cryptocurrency payments compared to Bitcoin and top altcoins.  And too few casinos also use this coin in their payments.  In addition, do not forget that there are also many claims against Monero from US regulatory authorities.  Therefore, casinos are afraid to allow payments using Monero on their platforms. 
In short, this coin is a good option for anonymous payments, but it will not be widely used due to regulatory requirements, that is, due to the opposition of government authorities representing the requirements.

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It's just that I think that when we think about what can be done it is different , when I see that payments can be made with crypto, it is something that I like for the reasons you say, because the money is safer, because things are much more safer, and apart from that, governments should guarantee that if Payments are made in crypto , they should not get Involved in anything, not even if it is the data that can be given in that way, now if we focus on pure crypto payments, things They will fit in the world, because the banks would be used to us, but as you say, things are like this because there is always something that governments, third parties must win, if it is not money because they know who are the ones who do things to capture who They are the ones who do things and then ask for taxes and take advantage of people.

When we are thinking about what should be done, it is Difficult , because Sometimes it is better to go and start looking for different ways to evade this, so that those who govern us do not think that one is paying for a service, because it is already Once they know that that person uses crypto, then things can be seen differently, then I would like that type of Freedom, because when you pay with crypto everything is easier, immediate, there is no loss of anything, I don't know if in In the future the governments will let people operate with their Currencies in Crypto , which Should be like that, they should not put so many prices with that, so basically when we put the ban, zaa and we see that things can be focused on that Well, I think that the government in the world should give in, because at the end of the day, bitcoin is money, it represents money and it's important for them to get paid and the only way is like that, in money and then you'll see if things change directly. fiat money or Something , Well we have to see it like that.

Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.

Well, but it is an alternative, you don't have to rule these things out, because that is something that should be done as a person who should promote this type of things so that the KYC disappears, you are very right, they should speed up that process So that they can generate better things to do, I am a very erratic person and I do not believe in the KYC processes, for me it is a total Annoyance, and I think that is something that should not exist, in fact the only way you have to Is that extorting companies, because I am one of those who think that as a client you prefer not to play, the problem with this is when people say that they no longer want to be in lsop caisno online until the requirement is removed? How can companies do it? It can come to a time like that, that is when I think they can opt for the options of Managing cryptocurrencies like Monero , it is the safest for that.

It is likely that Monero would indeed be perfect for providing complete anonymity for players.  However, we must admit that this cryptocurrency is too little widespread in general in the world of cryptocurrency payments compared to Bitcoin and top altcoins.  And too few casinos also use this coin in their payments.  In addition, do not forget that there are also many claims against Monero from US regulatory authorities.  Therefore, casinos are afraid to allow payments using Monero on their platforms. 
In short, this coin is a good option for anonymous payments, but it will not be widely used due to regulatory requirements, that is, due to the opposition of government authorities representing the requirements.

You're right about that, although I can't think of any other Way of doing Things like this With more anonymity, because now IDon't think the Casinos die much because they have an interest in the privacy of the People , Basically what Interests them is that they They continue to register complaints and continue playing on their platforms, there is Nothing to do with complying with the regulations and regulations that the Governments Impose on them , they are Going to continue there , because they are Interested in that, now a casino that is committed to this problem and wants to get out of this quickly, well it Would be the other Option , but how Else could they do it ? The regulations , the KYC, the problem even with the Casinos that do not Accept VPNs is already quite big , I would Bbelieve that things can sometimes be complicated to do, so I Think that when it comes to doing something, you Can think about those Options , that's it there is a lot to talk About , as Long as they do not Have their Business model and it is not Affected I think they will not do much , I think it would be a Matter of waiting to see what Happens.

Because of adoption and everything that is happening, I think it can be a good starting point for things to be done right, I could think that when it comes to this , people should evaluate if they want this for their lives or just go to the physical casinos to See if they can Satisfy their Desire to play, because with the identities and with everything they have to do , well , Many People don't like this Idea , What we should do is see how everything continues to develop, for me it would be Great that they Ask to do something much Better so that they are solving this problem, I don't know if there will be casinos that commit to this and can generate the Solutions that everyone wants, it is something that can be counterproductive, and it is generated as a Problem that has to be Quick solution Because this type of thing is what should not be Thought about or Considered so Much.

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February 10, 2024, 04:35:22 PM
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It is likely that Monero would indeed be perfect for providing complete anonymity for players.  However, we must admit that this cryptocurrency is too little widespread in general in the world of cryptocurrency payments compared to Bitcoin and top altcoins.  And too few casinos also use this coin in their payments.  In addition, do not forget that there are also many claims against Monero from US regulatory authorities.  Therefore, casinos are afraid to allow payments using Monero on their platforms.  
In short, this coin is a good option for anonymous payments, but it will not be widely used due to regulatory requirements, that is, due to the opposition of government authorities representing the requirements.

You're right about that, although I can't think of any other Way of doing Things like this With more anonymity, because now IDon't think the Casinos die much because they have an interest in the privacy of the People , Basically what Interests them is that they They continue to register complaints and continue playing on their platforms, there is Nothing to do with complying with the regulations and regulations that the Governments Impose on them , they are Going to continue there , because they are Interested in that, now a casino that is committed to this problem and wants to get out of this quickly, well it Would be the other Option , but how Else could they do it ? The regulations , the KYC, the problem even with the Casinos that do not Accept VPNs is already quite big , I would Bbelieve that things can sometimes be complicated to do, so I Think that when it comes to doing something, you Can think about those Options , that's it there is a lot to talk About , as Long as they do not Have their Business model and it is not Affected I think they will not do much , I think it would be a Matter of waiting to see what Happens.

I write quite a lot and often here on our forum about how KYC when it comes to cryptocurrency payments is evil and is unacceptable in the future.  A person, including a casino player, should not endlessly send his personal data anywhere and to anyone.  And it is unknown why this is being done.  And the requirements for storing this personal data are not met everywhere.  And the more we discuss here that KYC is evil, the more our colleagues on the forum will be inspired by this idea and I hope they will increasingly ignore services with mandatory KYC.  And after some time, such services will discover an outflow of clients precisely because of the refusal of KYC and because of the presence of alternative competitors without the KYC requirement.  

So by discussing this topic we perform a socially useful function.  
At least that's what I think.

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February 10, 2024, 06:34:46 PM
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It is likely that Monero would indeed be perfect for providing complete anonymity for players.  However, we must admit that this cryptocurrency is too little widespread in general in the world of cryptocurrency payments compared to Bitcoin and top altcoins.  And too few casinos also use this coin in their payments.  In addition, do not forget that there are also many claims against Monero from US regulatory authorities.  Therefore, casinos are afraid to allow payments using Monero on their platforms.  
In short, this coin is a good option for anonymous payments, but it will not be widely used due to regulatory requirements, that is, due to the opposition of government authorities representing the requirements.

You're right about that, although I can't think of any other Way of doing Things like this With more anonymity, because now IDon't think the Casinos die much because they have an interest in the privacy of the People , Basically what Interests them is that they They continue to register complaints and continue playing on their platforms, there is Nothing to do with complying with the regulations and regulations that the Governments Impose on them , they are Going to continue there , because they are Interested in that, now a casino that is committed to this problem and wants to get out of this quickly, well it Would be the other Option , but how Else could they do it ? The regulations , the KYC, the problem even with the Casinos that do not Accept VPNs is already quite big , I would Bbelieve that things can sometimes be complicated to do, so I Think that when it comes to doing something, you Can think about those Options , that's it there is a lot to talk About , as Long as they do not Have their Business model and it is not Affected I think they will not do much , I think it would be a Matter of waiting to see what Happens.

I write quite a lot and often here on our forum about how KYC when it comes to cryptocurrency payments is evil and is unacceptable in the future.  A person, including a casino player, should not endlessly send his personal data anywhere and to anyone.  And it is unknown why this is being done.  And the requirements for storing this personal data are not met everywhere.  And the more we discuss here that KYC is evil, the more our colleagues on the forum will be inspired by this idea and I hope they will increasingly ignore services with mandatory KYC.  And after some time, such services will discover an outflow of clients precisely because of the refusal of KYC and because of the presence of alternative competitors without the KYC requirement.  

So by discussing this topic we perform a socially useful function.  
At least that's what I think.

I agree with you, when we are talking about this topic, because I have Heard many , However they are nothing, there is no way to do it, by Knowing a Little more about the subject, at least we are seeing that things with the KYC Included with the VPN because it is what we already manage, but the casinos are going to lose parliament, so it is a way for us to be able to do things better, or to defend ourselves better, I am very reticent therefore when we We are looking for ways to defend ourselves in a casino because this helps here , however I know some friends who have entered a casino and things are still quite strong because they do not pay them until they comply with the KYC, and it is a KYC is generally somewhat demanding, of course they are not old casinos, they are casinos that are relatively new, but they demand a lot from them and I don't like that.

For these problems, it is better to be in a physical casino Where there is Nothing to do but show your ID, card, DNI or identification, there are the things that can identify us and the withdrawals are immediate and things must be done Perfectly , I am that not be with that KYC thing.

Now when we are in a casino and they ask us for ntry Identification, something like the brokers know that KYC is not so harsh, there are people who do not like to give their data at all because one has to have their data on the web like anything, and when they discover the things they get into, casinos, exchanges, brokers, things like that, it is a very easy target for criminals , now the criminals also specialize in hacking and things like this, so you have to be careful in all only Sense , casino data is something that can be leaked, as I said before, hacks are very common, so I consider that a casino Should not pass KYC after $2k is withdrawn, that's what I can think of that could be annoying.


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February 11, 2024, 04:04:25 PM
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if a casino refused to pay the winning gambler, they will for sure find ways or loopholes not to release his winnings. especially if the winnings is huge enough to lose their bankroll. this is why bigger casinos have better chance of not screwing large winning because they can afford to give it to their players.
These casinos, not all of them are legits as prescribed, screwing gigantic winnings can only denied when a customer doesn't go according to the rules set, other than implementing strict rules that prohibits gamblers from reaching their peak this season. Gamblers just need to apply wisdom and be extremely careful when dealing with the system, we know how rough the space can be but as they say, surviving is winning. Gambling industries ought to be trusted and reliable because what's coming is better than what's gone already.
No matter the level of wisdom that the gambler seems to apply, a shaddy casino will alwys fine ways to denied him of her the winning if they feels that the gambler has won a substantive amount that could affect their liquidity at some point, this how to know the legit casinos from the scams that promote themselves around.
More, you can easily know a highly liquid casino with the way and manner in which they make their winning payout without any excuses or even attempt to withhold or deny the gambler their winnings.
This issue of gambling scams/cheating could happen to anybody and the most legit casinos could be greedy at a point too, it all depends on the teams involved and the amount won by the bettor at that time. You see, a casino could have been paying the person for years, but at a time, they might turn their back, and I do not even know what to call that. Should we say they are not legit again or what? Because they will continue to pay others and still let them believe they are good, which is why I like to balance my opinion based on investigation and the proof provided on both sides when disputes arise between casinos and their customers and not take a side ignorantly as some would do.

Well, I still blame this on poor regulations. Had it been there are strict regulations, the authorities could have weighed in and made the casinos accountable for their liabilities, and even fined them if need be, especially if further care was not taken after persistent issues and warnings. This alone will make them sit right and do the needful. Every casino should be accountable for winnings and pocket the losses proudly, that's how it should be, and liquidity or not, they are obliged to settle the winners' winnings, they do not just have any excuse to do otherwise. They should have rejected such a bet if they knew they were not liquid enough to take care of the potential winning. However, if they accept the risk, they should be liable. Their inability to pay makes them irresponsible and a scam.

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February 11, 2024, 04:12:42 PM
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Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.
We won't just send a KYC to any random company or person because we know that it is risky although there is still a risk even if they started to be trusted because they can still change later on and then there is also hacking that can happen. The current process of KYC can still get delays and even if that new KYC system you are talking about had some delays, I'm sure that it will still be improved later on.

It was still new so it's normal for it to still have some flaws. The speed at which I delivered and my KYC gets processed won't really matter to me but as long as I'm sure that it will now be safe. I think it means that no company or individual will hold it anymore. That's great and I love that.

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        -  Honestly, I don't know anything about the casinos mentioned by OP, and like other commenters have said, I'm too lazy to do research on the mentioned casinos, and it looks like the ones he mentioned are land-based casinos in my opinion.

Because I have not seen any crypto gambling with the most liquid in the field we live in today in this industry. Then there must be a source, at least for others to think that what OP is saying is credible.

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February 12, 2024, 05:34:59 PM
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Now I think that a very promising direction for confirming ownership of some assets, including cryptocurrency, of course, and a way to maximally keep some of your Personal Data secret is the widespread use of ZK technology. 
I would like to point out that many devs in the field of cryptocurrency have now paid attention to this area of ​​business development. 
Here is another example of what the Kadena blockchain devs write about the use of such technologies.

I think that this technology will make it possible, as it develops, to gradually eliminate KYC in that ugly form in the form of sending your personal photographs and scans of your documents to someone unknown and for what purpose.  Of course I would like it to be faster.  But these are complex algorithms and it takes a certain amount of time to finalize all of this for normal mass use.
We won't just send a KYC to any random company or person because we know that it is risky although there is still a risk even if they started to be trusted because they can still change later on and then there is also hacking that can happen. The current process of KYC can still get delays and even if that new KYC system you are talking about had some delays, I'm sure that it will still be improved later on.

It was still new so it's normal for it to still have some flaws. The speed at which I delivered and my KYC gets processed won't really matter to me but as long as I'm sure that it will now be safe. I think it means that no company or individual will hold it anymore. That's great and I love that.

I learned that things with the casinos with the KYC I will only trust the most reliable casinos to leave my KYC, if they are also reliable, they will not have any problem in responding to any adversity and to make any complaints, because I know that it will be fixed that Please answer me, because the casinos that are reliable take great care of their reputation, and they are not going to risk a KYC problem because they start complaining or creating a problem, except if it is about making a withdrawal of 300usd or less, they for that moment I don't believe Let them make a bigger problem, because that is a normal money that can be a withdrawal order, the big casinos do not form KYC problems for that, now it is a new casino, because those are their rules and their questions may be yes.

Therefore, in a new casino the most recommended thing is to be careful and not start inventing things, or things that are untrustworthy, because we are going to have the same deal with them, no, things change.


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February 13, 2024, 02:12:14 PM
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        -  Honestly, I don't know anything about the casinos mentioned by OP, and like other commenters have said, I'm too lazy to do research on the mentioned casinos, and it looks like the ones he mentioned are land-based casinos in my opinion.

Because I have not seen any crypto gambling with the most liquid in the field we live in today in this industry. Then there must be a source, at least for others to think that what OP is saying is credible.
I don't think anyone could be so conversant with the listed casinos by then OP, and if you read it well, some of them dated back to 2000, a year that many online casinos we have now are not in existence. In that year, the internet connection had just been introduced to my country and I do not think that an ordinary person had started using it back then not to talk of people developing their platforms for gambling online.

The OP has stated that he came about the list based on liquidity as guided by a certain Financial Index (Financial Index DATA40: iGaming (iG-D40)). But this is not how the website was spelt, still, it might be the truth as I see it. The OP did not even add a link to make it suspicious as though he has something to sell. I also believe that all these casinos are strong and recognized offline casinos, yet, they should all have their present online even if their strongest base is offline. I just searched for the first one (PhilWeb) and I was able to see their website.

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February 14, 2024, 07:50:04 AM
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I write quite a lot and often here on our forum about how KYC when it comes to cryptocurrency payments is evil and is unacceptable in the future.  A person, including a casino player, should not endlessly send his personal data anywhere and to anyone.  And it is unknown why this is being done.  And the requirements for storing this personal data are not met everywhere.  And the more we discuss here that KYC is evil, the more our colleagues on the forum will be inspired by this idea and I hope they will increasingly ignore services with mandatory KYC.  And after some time, such services will discover an outflow of clients precisely because of the refusal of KYC and because of the presence of alternative competitors without the KYC requirement.  

So by discussing this topic we perform a socially useful function.  
At least that's what I think.

I agree with you, when we are talking about this topic, because I have Heard many , However they are nothing, there is no way to do it, by Knowing a Little more about the subject, at least we are seeing that things with the KYC Included with the VPN because it is what we already manage, but the casinos are going to lose parliament, so it is a way for us to be able to do things better, or to defend ourselves better, I am very reticent therefore when we We are looking for ways to defend ourselves in a casino because this helps here , however I know some friends who have entered a casino and things are still quite strong because they do not pay them until they comply with the KYC, and it is a KYC is generally somewhat demanding, of course they are not old casinos, they are casinos that are relatively new, but they demand a lot from them and I don't like that.

For these problems, it is better to be in a physical casino Where there is Nothing to do but show your ID, card, DNI or identification, there are the things that can identify us and the withdrawals are immediate and things must be done Perfectly , I am that not be with that KYC thing.

Now when we are in a casino and they ask us for ntry Identification, something like the brokers know that KYC is not so harsh, there are people who do not like to give their data at all because one has to have their data on the web like anything, and when they discover the things they get into, casinos, exchanges, brokers, things like that, it is a very easy target for criminals , now the criminals also specialize in hacking and things like this, so you have to be careful in all only Sense , casino data is something that can be leaked, as I said before, hacks are very common, so I consider that a casino Should not pass KYC after $2k is withdrawn, that's what I can think of that could be annoying.


By the way, here are my views and reasoning regarding these same $2K.  
In my opinion, this requirement is gradually becoming obsolete, but for some reason no casinos and no regulatory authorities are trying to bring this value into line with global dollar inflation.  This am ount, in my opinion, already seems too small to necessarily be used as a boundary value so that players can freely transfer such amounts of money to their wallets.  In my opinion, this limit should already be set somewhere around $5K, which would really eliminate unnecessary difficulties for many players with this stupid fuss when passing the next verification under the KYC procedure.  It’s even better to set a limit for the amount you can withdraw without additional complications, even $10K.  
Although I certainly understand that the global banking lobby will still not allow a significant reduction in the requirements for control over money transfers.  They are actively demanding this damned KYC from citizens, now even in cryptocurrency paymonts.  And this is generally arrogance and interference in the private lives of citizens.  In this case, blatant interference in the lives of cryptocurrency owners.

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February 16, 2024, 03:41:41 PM
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I write quite a lot and often here on our forum about how KYC when it comes to cryptocurrency payments is evil and is unacceptable in the future.  A person, including a casino player, should not endlessly send his personal data anywhere and to anyone.  And it is unknown why this is being done.  And the requirements for storing this personal data are not met everywhere.  And the more we discuss here that KYC is evil, the more our colleagues on the forum will be inspired by this idea and I hope they will increasingly ignore services with mandatory KYC.  And after some time, such services will discover an outflow of clients precisely because of the refusal of KYC and because of the presence of alternative competitors without the KYC requirement.  

So by discussing this topic we perform a socially useful function.  
At least that's what I think.

I agree with you, when we are talking about this topic, because I have Heard many , However they are nothing, there is no way to do it, by Knowing a Little more about the subject, at least we are seeing that things with the KYC Included with the VPN because it is what we already manage, but the casinos are going to lose parliament, so it is a way for us to be able to do things better, or to defend ourselves better, I am very reticent therefore when we We are looking for ways to defend ourselves in a casino because this helps here , however I know some friends who have entered a casino and things are still quite strong because they do not pay them until they comply with the KYC, and it is a KYC is generally somewhat demanding, of course they are not old casinos, they are casinos that are relatively new, but they demand a lot from them and I don't like that.

For these problems, it is better to be in a physical casino Where there is Nothing to do but show your ID, card, DNI or identification, there are the things that can identify us and the withdrawals are immediate and things must be done Perfectly , I am that not be with that KYC thing.

Now when we are in a casino and they ask us for ntry Identification, something like the brokers know that KYC is not so harsh, there are people who do not like to give their data at all because one has to have their data on the web like anything, and when they discover the things they get into, casinos, exchanges, brokers, things like that, it is a very easy target for criminals , now the criminals also specialize in hacking and things like this, so you have to be careful in all only Sense , casino data is something that can be leaked, as I said before, hacks are very common, so I consider that a casino Should not pass KYC after $2k is withdrawn, that's what I can think of that could be annoying.


By the way, here are my views and reasoning regarding these same $2K.  
In my opinion, this requirement is gradually becoming obsolete, but for some reason no casinos and no regulatory authorities are trying to bring this value into line with global dollar inflation.  This am ount, in my opinion, already seems too small to necessarily be used as a boundary value so that players can freely transfer such amounts of money to their wallets.  In my opinion, this limit should already be set somewhere around $5K, which would really eliminate unnecessary difficulties for many players with this stupid fuss when passing the next verification under the KYC procedure.  It’s even better to set a limit for the amount you can withdraw without additional complications, even $10K.  
Although I certainly understand that the global banking lobby will still not allow a significant reduction in the requirements for control over money transfers.  They are actively demanding this damned KYC from citizens, now even in cryptocurrency paymonts.  And this is generally arrogance and interference in the private lives of citizens.  In this case, blatant interference in the lives of cryptocurrency owners.


Well, personally , I think that things should be at $10k just like they do at the airports, after $10k, if the arguments are made about the origin of funds, for me that is all that should be done, but baado in that the casinos have their own rules, it is up to us to Accept if we want to have our data there and roseguri with the Records and everything, but personally for me things must be very different, I might think that things could be seen differently. In a different way, I have always said that when we are looking for a casino that does many good things, well it is difficult. I might think that if we are not in a casino things can be very difficult, if we want to have a good experience, well We have to go quickly to a casino that is highly reputable and something that focuses on Trust.

The core of all this is that they generate trust, because anyone who deposits, or likes having their money gnawed, does not like improper things being done to them and because of this I say that things will always be focused on doing the best possible for everyone, I can deduce that for me the most important thing in a casino is money, and for me as a player it will always be that, no matter how much one understands a game, or how much one can do, but The important thing about these things is that we manage to do things well, what I can recommend is that, in a casino what we must look for is trust, where to have safe money and here in the forum there are many casinos that are trustworthy, such as sportsbet.io, bitcasino.io, stake.com, duelbits, among others, because they are casinos that have a very good reputation, they are very well accepted in the crypto world, on the financial side and this is the only thing that really matters, because there will be no reason to doubt them, this is something that must be seen.

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Well, personally , I think that things should be at $10k just like they do at the airports, after $10k, if the arguments are made about the origin of funds, for me that is all that should be done, but baado in that the casinos have their own rules, it is up to us to Accept if we want to have our data there and roseguri with the Records and everything, but personally for me things must be very different, I might think that things could be seen differently. In a different way, I have always said that when we are looking for a casino that does many good things, well it is difficult. I might think that if we are not in a casino things can be very difficult, if we want to have a good experience, well We have to go quickly to a casino that is highly reputable and something that focuses on Trust.

The core of all this is that they generate trust, because anyone who deposits, or likes having their money gnawed, does not like improper things being done to them and because of this I say that things will always be focused on doing the best possible for everyone, I can deduce that for me the most important thing in a casino is money, and for me as a player it will always be that, no matter how much one understands a game, or how much one can do, but The important thing about these things is that we manage to do things well, what I can recommend is that, in a casino what we must look for is trust, where to have safe money and here in the forum there are many casinos that are trustworthy, such as sportsbet.io, bitcasino.io, stake.com, duelbits, among others, because they are casinos that have a very good reputation, they are very well accepted in the crypto world, on the financial side and this is the only thing that really matters, because there will be no reason to doubt them, this is something that must be seen.
So, while discussing the topic of limits on payouts of winnings to a gambling player, I come to the conclusion that the $2K limit without mandatory KYC is clearly outdated and already requiires an upward revision.  You have listed excellent casinos that have proven themselves well and in general there are few complaints from   players about them, even here in the topics of our forum, which are dedicated specifically to these casinos.  And our forum is perhaps one of the few where the information is quite objective and reliable.  It would be good and correct if at least one of the casinos you listed would finally increase the limit on cryptocurrency transfers without KYC to the level of, well, maybe not $10K, but for starters at least to $5K.  
I understand that this may irritate local regulators, but it would allow anonymous players who actually have quite a lot of savings and cryptocurrencies to play.  
I think that the casino itself, which decided to take such a step, would seriously benefit not only from additional income from rich players, but also from the image of the casino, which is a supporter of cryptocurrency and supports the original purplose of cryptocurrency as a method of anonymous and reliable payments.

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Well, personally , I think that things should be at $10k just like they do at the airports, after $10k, if the arguments are made about the origin of funds, for me that is all that should be done, but baado in that the casinos have their own rules, it is up to us to Accept if we want to have our data there and roseguri with the Records and everything, but personally for me things must be very different, I might think that things could be seen differently. In a different way, I have always said that when we are looking for a casino that does many good things, well it is difficult. I might think that if we are not in a casino things can be very difficult, if we want to have a good experience, well We have to go quickly to a casino that is highly reputable and something that focuses on Trust.

The core of all this is that they generate trust, because anyone who deposits, or likes having their money gnawed, does not like improper things being done to them and because of this I say that things will always be focused on doing the best possible for everyone, I can deduce that for me the most important thing in a casino is money, and for me as a player it will always be that, no matter how much one understands a game, or how much one can do, but The important thing about these things is that we manage to do things well, what I can recommend is that, in a casino what we must look for is trust, where to have safe money and here in the forum there are many casinos that are trustworthy, such as sportsbet.io, bitcasino.io, stake.com, duelbits, among others, because they are casinos that have a very good reputation, they are very well accepted in the crypto world, on the financial side and this is the only thing that really matters, because there will be no reason to doubt them, this is something that must be seen.
So, while discussing the topic of limits on payouts of winnings to a gambling player, I come to the conclusion that the $2K limit without mandatory KYC is clearly outdated and already requiires an upward revision.  You have listed excellent casinos that have proven themselves well and in general there are few complaints from   players about them, even here in the topics of our forum, which are dedicated specifically to these casinos.  And our forum is perhaps one of the few where the information is quite objective and reliable.  It would be good and correct if at least one of the casinos you listed would finally increase the limit on cryptocurrency transfers without KYC to the level of, well, maybe not $10K, but for starters at least to $5K.  
I understand that this may irritate local regulators, but it would allow anonymous players who actually have quite a lot of savings and cryptocurrencies to play.  
I think that the casino itself, which decided to take such a step, would seriously benefit not only from additional income from rich players, but also from the image of the casino, which is a supporter of cryptocurrency and supports the original purplose of cryptocurrency as a method of anonymous and reliable payments.

Although it seems to me that this is a good figure of $5k, because Calrouno says $2k for the mere fact that it is a figure that seems quite decent, but there are casinos that if you are going to make a withdrawal of $50-100usd then they already ask you the KYC , then these things can be a little more flexible, so when you talk About how to do Things better it may be that that amount can be given to a casino without problems, but I have seen that at any time the casinos prepare for your withdrawal They have to comply with the KYC , I don't know if in the future People will not play as much or become aware of the issue of identification because as I said , Adoption before was a problem  now the problem will be that People will Not want to comply with these requirements, because if the governments come to the Conclusion that those who manipulate crypto will have to pay high Sums of money in Taxes, because no one will want to pay it , at least in my country People will look for a way to evade it , the Government If you have too much money and don't have good Policies , then they obviously Won't Help.

If people in Europe Still think that they have to give the Government money for just using crypto , then things will be very different , it may be that they accept it and say yes to their conditions, but in the case of the majority, maybe they already They won't want this, so we all know what anonymity means, the privacy that no one is aware of how much money they manipulate, because in part if those things are known it is not good, it is also dangerous, I understand that part, so it is better to avoid this type of things so that other types of problems are not triggered later just by using crypto.

From the moment the KYC began to be issued for the excahges and casino, I knew that things were not going in the right direction, however in some Cases they have been able to enter with the regulations at full speed and the people Accept them, and incredible, for That talked about the $10k requirement, but $5k is acceptable.

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I don't know if there is any data regarding how many customers physical casinos have and how many customers online casinos have, but I believe that physical casinos probably don't have the same number of customers that online casinos have, this is due to many reasons. , such as the fact that many people live far from physical casinos and are people who work, so these people who work will not have time to go to physical casinos every day, also physical casinos are most of the time frequented by people with good financial conditions, so people with low financial conditions don't go to physical casinos because they feel embarrassed, so these people with low financial conditions prefer to play in online casinos

and when we look at the great ease that online casinos can provide, then people who do not have the opportunity to go and play in physical casinos will play in online casinos, but when we compare the profits that physical casinos can obtain against the profits that casinos online can get we can see that land-based casinos can move a lot of money and even though they have high operational costs such as salaries, drinks, taxes, water, electricity, infrastructure maintenance, land-based casinos can still make a lot of profit because the people who play in physical casinos they play with many millions of dollars

because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

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February 22, 2024, 06:34:34 PM
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This issue of gambling scams/cheating could happen to anybody and the most legit casinos could be greedy at a point too, it all depends on the teams involved and the amount won by the bettor at that time. You see, a casino could have been paying the person for years, but at a time, they might turn their back, and I do not even know what to call that. Should we say they are not legit again or what? Because they will continue to pay others and still let them believe they are good, which is why I like to balance my opinion based on investigation and the proof provided on both sides when disputes arise between casinos and their customers and not take a side ignorantly as some would do.
In my understanding and believe that,  those casino that hard long term of reputation but suddenly turn bad is as a result of either attack or other for issues,  sometime only one among the team member will betray the company and then pulled an exit on everyone involved.

But many times,  most of the reputable casinos have had a long-term of good reputation without many issues and unless some few ones that hard technical challenges but are back online now,  this is what differentiates legitimacy casinos and scam casinos,  the level of consistency and good reputation iswhatdifferentiatese them from each other.
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Well, I still blame this on poor regulations. Had it been there are strict regulations, the authorities could have weighed in and made the casinos accountable for their liabilities, and even fined them if need be, especially if further care was not taken after persistent issues and warnings. This alone will make them sit right and do the needful. Every casino should be accountable for winnings and pocket the losses proudly, that's how it should be, and liquidity or not, they are obliged to settle the winners' winnings, they do not just have any excuse to do otherwise. They should have rejected such a bet if they knew they were not liquid enough to take care of the potential winning. However, if they accept the risk, they should be liable. Their inability to pay makes them irresponsible and a scam.
Yeah, government need to put mechanisms in place to regulate everything that goes on in the ecosystem,  this is very important to the development and safety of all,  but aside from the government,  we as individuals still have the responsibility to guide ourselves and make sure to identify and expose fake casinos,  no matter what their tactics are and how long their choose to play the game.

But also we have to promote those that are meeting up to the standards of things and taking the time to build a good reputation for themselves,  and as much as possible operating in the most consistently accurate ways and manners whereby ttthesatisfactionn comes first before anything.
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February 24, 2024, 04:55:23 PM
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Although it seems to me that this is a good figure of $5k, because Calrouno says $2k for the mere fact that it is a figure that seems quite decent, but there are casinos that if you are going to make a withdrawal of $50-100usd then they already ask you the KYC , then these things can be a little more flexible, so when you talk About how to do Things better it may be that that amount can be given to a casino without problems, but I have seen that at any time the casinos prepare for your withdrawal They have to comply with the KYC , I don't know if in the future People will not play as much or become aware of the issue of identification because as I said , Adoption before was a problem  now the problem will be that People will Not want to comply with these requirements, because if the governments come to the Conclusion that those who manipulate crypto will have to pay high Sums of money in Taxes, because no one will want to pay it , at least in my country People will look for a way to evade it , the Government If you have too much money and don't have good Policies , then they obviously Won't Help.

If people in Europe Still think that they have to give the Government money for just using crypto , then things will be very different , it may be that they accept it and say yes to their conditions, but in the case of the majority, maybe they already They won't want this, so we all know what anonymity means, the privacy that no one is aware of how much money they manipulate, because in part if those things are known it is not good, it is also dangerous, I understand that part, so it is better to avoid this type of things so that other types of problems are not triggered later just by using crypto.

From the moment the KYC began to be issued for the excahges and casino, I knew that things were not going in the right direction, however in some Cases they have been able to enter with the regulations at full speed and the people Accept them, and incredible, for That talked about the $10k requirement, but $5k is acceptable.
Regulations can't affect those who use non-custodial wallets and decentralized exchange platforms and also avoid KYC-focused casino platforms because your public wallet address that shows how many Bitcoins you have doesn't have a direct link to you which means that the government or the regulators cannot know that you are the owner of that wallet so that they can tax you for it or ask you for money just for using cryptocurrencies.

However, if you use KYC-based platforms and send and receive assets to your KYCed account from your main wallet, it will be revealed that you are the one who has custody of that wallet and then they can link it to you and then tax you for what you own or spend every time.
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Liquidity is important for high rollers but it's not the best indicator about the quality of service. Some casinos can have a large liquidity because they've a huge number of customers and not because they have many high rollers playing there for example. And if such companies operate from offshore locations they won't care about being professional and customer friendly but mostly of making profits from their losses.

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February 25, 2024, 06:59:59 PM
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Liquidity is important for high rollers but it's not the best indicator about the quality of service. Some casinos can have a large liquidity because they've a huge number of customers and not because they have many high rollers playing there for example. And if such companies operate from offshore locations they won't care about being professional and customer friendly but mostly of making profits from their losses.
I share in your view, and truly liquidity should not be the yardstick to measure the effectiveness, integrity and reputation of any company. I must also say that I've witnessed this with companies before where the small ones in the industry served me better than the biggest ones. This has to do with the people behind the running of the company and their intention in running the company, and not the money they have. This is why it can't entirely be the gauge for anyone to choose the best casinos. Nonetheless, liquidity is still important all the time, especially for those who are wagering big amounts of money. Wagering such in small casinos could be an issue if you win too big, they could be greedy and that big winning could indeed put them in trouble if they did not manage their casinos well.

Not managing it well means that due to greed, they might accept a wagering risk more than what the casino could afford to bear when the time of payment is reached. This is not news, it is happening, and even if some could afford to pay a very big winning, that might severely affect the payments of the winnings games of other gamblers which makes it risky for them.

Well, with your points, which I so much agree with as well, I think that finding a reasonable conclusion is important. And my conclusion here is that it is not all highly liquid casinos that are bad, so let us find those ones that have been in the business for so long with good track records and reputations. I believe that gamblers can't go wrong doing this.

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Liquidity is important for high rollers but it's not the best indicator about the quality of service. Some casinos can have a large liquidity because they've a huge number of customers and not because they have many high rollers playing there for example. And if such companies operate from offshore locations they won't care about being professional and customer friendly but mostly of making profits from their losses.

If a casino has a lot of players, it should mean that their service is good. Maybe liquidity is not the best indicator of quality but I guess that more money means that the casino can invest in its team and therefore in its site so that they can be even better. And liquidity is important when some unforeseen problems/issues occur, after all, money solves problems, especially if the casino gets hacked, how else do you cover the losses and stay in the business? Good service brings money, and maintaining good service will bring money in the long run and raise liquidity over time.
 


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i understand clearly that there are companies in the gambling space that has issues with users. It is important to note that I consider whoever in paying.

I don't ever concern myself with the companies finance, even though I know that it is necessary.

I consider consistency more, cause even though they have issues with liquidity, if they keep their payouts constant, they will be getting results which will translate to success where they can win investors trust and get anonymous investors

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Are the Companies that can be more Liquid in the game the ones that have the most investment? Well, it is one of the most disturbing questions because we cannot ask it, is it something that can happen, and do companies that are large because they have many investors work? Really, the largest companies must have good Investors , Casinos are companies that Handle money all the time, and in large quantities, what I believe is that things can be like that , but I don't know, I'm not sure if in reality They do move things that way, because it can be owned by a single owner with enough money to cover every problem.

But in today's companies , Getting ahead with a casino is very Difficult, because it implies having a lot of money, marketing strength and a talent for money to do things with Security, this is something that is seen and noticed, that is why a Company i liquid to take that concept, it will take about 5-6 Years to see its Performance.

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Although it seems to me that this is a good figure of $5k, because Calrouno says $2k for the mere fact that it is a figure that seems quite decent, but there are casinos that if you are going to make a withdrawal of $50-100usd then they already ask you the KYC , then these things can be a little more flexible, so when you talk About how to do Things better it may be that that amount can be given to a casino without problems, but I have seen that at any time the casinos prepare for your withdrawal They have to comply with the KYC , I don't know if in the future People will not play as much or become aware of the issue of identification because as I said , Adoption before was a problem  now the problem will be that People will Not want to comply with these requirements, because if the governments come to the Conclusion that those who manipulate crypto will have to pay high Sums of money in Taxes, because no one will want to pay it , at least in my country People will look for a way to evade it , the Government If you have too much money and don't have good Policies , then they obviously Won't Help.

If people in Europe Still think that they have to give the Government money for just using crypto , then things will be very different , it may be that they accept it and say yes to their conditions, but in the case of the majority, maybe they already They won't want this, so we all know what anonymity means, the privacy that no one is aware of how much money they manipulate, because in part if those things are known it is not good, it is also dangerous, I understand that part, so it is better to avoid this type of things so that other types of problems are not triggered later just by using crypto.

From the moment the KYC began to be issued for the excahges and casino, I knew that things were not going in the right direction, however in some Cases they have been able to enter with the regulations at full speed and the people Accept them, and incredible, for That talked about the $10k requirement, but $5k is acceptable.
In any case, the limit amount should be several thousand dollars and more than $2 K, of course.  But when you are required to KYC when withdrawing $100, this of course resembles insanity, simply because the amounts required to process this personal information and the cost of its confidential storage are already beginning to be commensurate with such small amounts.  

As for the taxation of cryptocurrencies, it is natural that if governments decide to make taxation large, for example 30%, then naturally no normal person will perceive this positively.  And massive tax evasion to some other jurisdiction will spread everywhere.  And at the same time, jurisdictions with little taxation or no taxation at all will certainly appear somewhere in the world.  
So the government has a lot to think about before introducing brutal and huge taxation on cryptocurrency payments.

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i understand clearly that there are companies in the gambling space that has issues with users. It is important to note that I consider whoever in paying.
Issue is part of every business but the problem is if the company is scamming the players or the players cheating the site those are the scenarios in which I believe is valid to tackle.


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I consider consistency more, cause even though they have issues with liquidity, if they keep their payouts constant, they will be getting results which will translate to success where they can win investors trust and get anonymous investors
with the support giving answers and the withdrawal never been an issue? then that is correct a better business deals.

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because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

We have to consider the disadvantage of physical bulkiness, these gambling platforms are not safe in their physical appearance considering the amount of money they earned in fiat local currencies, they can be rendered under physical assault for theft, there could also be a means of physical violence in some of these casino houses, gamblers can abuse the casinos in any manner of assault including their fellow gamblers which there's none of these in any form with online gambling platforms.



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Although it seems to me that this is a good figure of $5k, because Calrouno says $2k for the mere fact that it is a figure that seems quite decent, but there are casinos that if you are going to make a withdrawal of $50-100usd then they already ask you the KYC , then these things can be a little more flexible, so when you talk About how to do Things better it may be that that amount can be given to a casino without problems, but I have seen that at any time the casinos prepare for your withdrawal They have to comply with the KYC , I don't know if in the future People will not play as much or become aware of the issue of identification because as I said , Adoption before was a problem  now the problem will be that People will Not want to comply with these requirements, because if the governments come to the Conclusion that those who manipulate crypto will have to pay high Sums of money in Taxes, because no one will want to pay it , at least in my country People will look for a way to evade it , the Government If you have too much money and don't have good Policies , then they obviously Won't Help.

If people in Europe Still think that they have to give the Government money for just using crypto , then things will be very different , it may be that they accept it and say yes to their conditions, but in the case of the majority, maybe they already They won't want this, so we all know what anonymity means, the privacy that no one is aware of how much money they manipulate, because in part if those things are known it is not good, it is also dangerous, I understand that part, so it is better to avoid this type of things so that other types of problems are not triggered later just by using crypto.

From the moment the KYC began to be issued for the excahges and casino, I knew that things were not going in the right direction, however in some Cases they have been able to enter with the regulations at full speed and the people Accept them, and incredible, for That talked about the $10k requirement, but $5k is acceptable.
Regulations can't affect those who use non-custodial wallets and decentralized exchange platforms and also avoid KYC-focused casino platforms because your public wallet address that shows how many Bitcoins you have doesn't have a direct link to you which means that the government or the regulators cannot know that you are the owner of that wallet so that they can tax you for it or ask you for money just for using cryptocurrencies.

However, if you use KYC-based platforms and send and receive assets to your KYCed account from your main wallet, it will be revealed that you are the one who has custody of that wallet and then they can link it to you and then tax you for what you own or spend every time.

Well, I think that the majority of us who are here have left their KYC in the main exchange platforms, casinos and everything that has to do with these houses that manage money, in a decentralized exchange lpatfoam, the truth is I don't trust, If a theft occurs, who will respond? I consider that no one will say that it was a hack and that's not how things are, so we prefer to have a centralized excage, a centralized casino just because we know that we can count on them as it is, because they provide security, and they provide what we can and We seek to have, security can mean everything, but as you say, regulations are the things that distract us from the good thing about crypto, I have always said something, if bitcoin was created we should not detract from its function, Satoshi invented it so that We can have the financial freedom that we do not have with the money of the fiat system, neither banks nor third parties that tell us what things we should do or what permissions we should have, then this case is not fulfilled.

Now the regulations have Entered the casinos and exchanges, they wash their hands of what they say and affirm that they must comply with these demands so that they do not take away their licenses and yes, for one thing they are right , without that they cannot do anything, but how is it done? here? who loses? the casinos ? Or us, obviously us , because before in 2017 there was no mandatory KYC and then how did they do it? It was obvious that the ID was enough for things to go well, then we are people who should see those things, because before yes and now no, then they are a series of things that sometimes we as players do not fit, and that is enough for us to say no, not so much for the old casinos because they are the most reliable in the world, but in this sense things can happen that we accept our data for KYC just for the Fact of being reliable, the new Companies , the new casinos are the ones that suffer the most.

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because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

We have to consider the disadvantage of physical bulkiness, these gambling platforms are not safe in their physical appearance considering the amount of money they earned in fiat local currencies, they can be rendered under physical assault for theft, there could also be a means of physical violence in some of these casino houses, gamblers can abuse the casinos in any manner of assault including their fellow gamblers which there's none of these in any form with online gambling platforms.

I also see that their casinos that are physical are very unlikely to become scams and if they do, they do not do it with the impudence of an online casino, that the online casino the disadvantage that we have as players is that it cannot be done There are other things to accept, because if they block the funds it is something shocking what they do by not allowing it to be taken out, then it is a robbery at least, on the other hand if there is a problem in a physical casino, the imdaitetnte person then goes and licks and does all the There is a fuss so that they can give you your money or something, but it is something that can be resolved at once, in a physical casino it is like that, but not in an online casino.

Online casinos are always very different in rules and in their ways of handling things, I am aware that in an online casino money is much more wasted than in a physical casino, that is the problem of trusting in casinos like this.

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Although it seems to me that this is a good figure of $5k, because Calrouno says $2k for the mere fact that it is a figure that seems quite decent, but there are casinos that if you are going to make a withdrawal of $50-100usd then they already ask you the KYC , then these things can be a little more flexible, so when you talk About how to do Things better it may be that that amount can be given to a casino without problems, but I have seen that at any time the casinos prepare for your withdrawal They have to comply with the KYC , I don't know if in the future People will not play as much or become aware of the issue of identification because as I said , Adoption before was a problem  now the problem will be that People will Not want to comply with these requirements, because if the governments come to the Conclusion that those who manipulate crypto will have to pay high Sums of money in Taxes, because no one will want to pay it , at least in my country People will look for a way to evade it , the Government If you have too much money and don't have good Policies , then they obviously Won't Help.

If people in Europe Still think that they have to give the Government money for just using crypto , then things will be very different , it may be that they accept it and say yes to their conditions, but in the case of the majority, maybe they already They won't want this, so we all know what anonymity means, the privacy that no one is aware of how much money they manipulate, because in part if those things are known it is not good, it is also dangerous, I understand that part, so it is better to avoid this type of things so that other types of problems are not triggered later just by using crypto.

From the moment the KYC began to be issued for the excahges and casino, I knew that things were not going in the right direction, however in some Cases they have been able to enter with the regulations at full speed and the people Accept them, and incredible, for That talked about the $10k requirement, but $5k is acceptable.
In any case, the limit amount should be several thousand dollars and more than $2 K, of course.  But when you are required to KYC when withdrawing $100, this of course resembles insanity, simply because the amounts required to process this personal information and the cost of its confidential storage are already beginning to be commensurate with such small amounts.  

As for the taxation of cryptocurrencies, it is natural that if governments decide to make taxation large, for example 30%, then naturally no normal person will perceive this positively.  And massive tax evasion to some other jurisdiction will spread everywhere.  And at the same time, jurisdictions with little taxation or no taxation at all will certainly appear somewhere in the world.  
So the government has a lot to think about before introducing brutal and huge taxation on cryptocurrency payments.

Well, I do know that governments are very given that the money that should be given to them does not matter how, it has to be fulfilled, personally, Primarily the casinos have to do something so that these requirements are gradually eliminated so that they give more options To win, it is not possible that to withdraw 100usd you have to do a level 1 KYC, otherwise they simply do not give you the money, and that is somewhat unfair, which is why casinos now take these into Consideration Things are going to start to make a difference, in general the casinos that are older don't have as much of a problem with these things, especially since things can happen that way, but now I have seen that casinos that are new, what they need of clients, because they put many commissions, apart from the proeñla that they put with the VPN, something that does not seem at all logical to me or bother them for that, so this type of thing is the ones that the cians I know can fight to remove and let play well to your clients.

I think that a casino is more Liquid when it allows its customers to enter and does not make their lives so impossible, that they allow them to withdraw Small Amounts and that they do not put so many "buts" on them, these types of things are What they have to focus on as a challenge. I don't see any caisnos or avanlancabde caisnos that there are because if we look at it there are many that enter, but few stay and that is something that we notice Immediately , for that reason it is that every time we are in a casino we must Check the Tos to see if a withdrawal with KYC is required immediately, even if it is with 100usd or less, which does not seem like it to me but those are their policies that seem absurd to me, if a casino focuses more on getting more customers without worrying so much about the KYC because there they will start to notice the differences, there will be many more customers there, because they respect more the fact that if you Enter, deposit and register, the registration will be done immediately and they will not have to wait So much so, and after a KYC you Wouldn't get into trouble with the Government Demanding taxes.

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In any case, the limit amount should be several thousand dollars and more than $2 K, of course.  But when you are required to KYC when withdrawing $100, this of course resembles insanity, simply because the amounts required to process this personal information and the cost of its confidential storage are already beginning to be commensurate with such small amounts.  

As for the taxation of cryptocurrencies, it is natural that if governments decide to make taxation large, for example 30%, then naturally no normal person will perceive this positively.  And massive tax evasion to some other jurisdiction will spread everywhere.  And at the same time, jurisdictions with little taxation or no taxation at all will certainly appear somewhere in the world.  
So the government has a lot to think about before introducing brutal and huge taxation on cryptocurrency payments.
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I think that a casino is more Liquid when it allows its customers to enter and does not make their lives so impossible, that they allow them to withdraw Small Amounts and that they do not put so many "buts" on them, these types of things are What they have to focus on as a challenge. I don't see any caisnos or avanlancabde caisnos that there are because if we look at it there are many that enter, but few stay and that is something that we notice Immediately , for that reason it is that every time we are in a casino we must Check the Tos to see if a withdrawal with KYC is required immediately, even if it is with 100usd or less, which does not seem like it to me but those are their policies that seem absurd to me, if a casino focuses more on getting more customers without worrying so much about the KYC because there they will start to notice the differences, there will be many more customers there, because they respect more the fact that if you Enter, deposit and register, the registration will be done immediately and they will not have to wait So much so, and after a KYC you Wouldn't get into trouble with the Government Demanding taxes.

Whatever you and I come up with and whatever we discuss, there is always a request from some Internet users for anonymity, including, of course, gamblers.  For this reason, this market niche will never be empty.  And there will certainly be casinos that do not mock their players with these very checks and KYC when the player uses cryptocurrencies, the nature of which preserves anonymity for itself.  Of course, there may be nuances here in the form of a limit on the amount of money won in gambling that a casino client is going to transfer to his personal account.  This amount can be specified in the ToS, of course, and rightly so. 
But there is another side to the issue, which is that many new casinos with very tempting withdrawal conditions may turn out to be fraudulent from the very beginning.  And such advertising in the form of a guarantee not to require KYC is simply an option to attract additional customers who naively think that this fake casino will not deceive them.  But I think that such casinos are, first of all, an object for law enforcement agencies to search for its organizers.  And law enforcement officers simply must do their job efficiently, especially since the Internet makes it possible to track such types of fraud.  And in the case of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology in general, there is always indisputable evidence of fraud.

 But, to summarize: the demand for anonymous casinos gives rise to the supply of such services and it will have to exist.  And over time, I hope, they will be officially and legally legalized in some jurisdictions.

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In any case, the limit amount should be several thousand dollars and more than $2 K, of course.  But when you are required to KYC when withdrawing $100, this of course resembles insanity, simply because the amounts required to process this personal information and the cost of its confidential storage are already beginning to be commensurate with such small amounts.  

As for the taxation of cryptocurrencies, it is natural that if governments decide to make taxation large, for example 30%, then naturally no normal person will perceive this positively.  And massive tax evasion to some other jurisdiction will spread everywhere.  And at the same time, jurisdictions with little taxation or no taxation at all will certainly appear somewhere in the world.  
So the government has a lot to think about before introducing brutal and huge taxation on cryptocurrency payments.
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I think that a casino is more Liquid when it allows its customers to enter and does not make their lives so impossible, that they allow them to withdraw Small Amounts and that they do not put so many "buts" on them, these types of things are What they have to focus on as a challenge. I don't see any caisnos or avanlancabde caisnos that there are because if we look at it there are many that enter, but few stay and that is something that we notice Immediately , for that reason it is that every time we are in a casino we must Check the Tos to see if a withdrawal with KYC is required immediately, even if it is with 100usd or less, which does not seem like it to me but those are their policies that seem absurd to me, if a casino focuses more on getting more customers without worrying so much about the KYC because there they will start to notice the differences, there will be many more customers there, because they respect more the fact that if you Enter, deposit and register, the registration will be done immediately and they will not have to wait So much so, and after a KYC you Wouldn't get into trouble with the Government Demanding taxes.

Whatever you and I come up with and whatever we discuss, there is always a request from some Internet users for anonymity, including, of course, gamblers.  For this reason, this market niche will never be empty.  And there will certainly be casinos that do not mock their players with these very checks and KYC when the player uses cryptocurrencies, the nature of which preserves anonymity for itself.  Of course, there may be nuances here in the form of a limit on the amount of money won in gambling that a casino client is going to transfer to his personal account.  This amount can be specified in the ToS, of course, and rightly so. 
But there is another side to the issue, which is that many new casinos with very tempting withdrawal conditions may turn out to be fraudulent from the very beginning.  And such advertising in the form of a guarantee not to require KYC is simply an option to attract additional customers who naively think that this fake casino will not deceive them.  But I think that such casinos are, first of all, an object for law enforcement agencies to search for its organizers.  And law enforcement officers simply must do their job efficiently, especially since the Internet makes it possible to track such types of fraud.  And in the case of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology in general, there is always indisputable evidence of fraud.

 But, to summarize: the demand for anonymous casinos gives rise to the supply of such services and it will have to exist.  And over time, I hope, they will be officially and legally legalized in some jurisdictions.

You are absolutely right, in fact when I started to know about casinos, bitcoins and all this part, I was part of a project of a privacy policy that was going to last, because for me it seemed or maximum, because for me it was always better having that type of currency that became impossible to trace and I liked that, because from the beginning I always thought about those rights, privacy and anonymity and just what we were really looking for , because those are things that we always thought about obtaining.

But actually the Cassians are not like that, they do not provide this type of service, and there is no way to excahnge them, so in any of the Jurisdictions things will be very unfavorable for us as players, but how can it be done currently? because I know that if you as a player stand up in protest you will not do anything, it has to be a conglomerate that stands up and no longer accepts this type of things, and seeing how everything is going, I think that in the future the players will seek to become more involved anonymous, with more privacy, because there will be Freedom from everything.

Casinos will always make the difference, they are companies that will always handle a lot of money, but what happens if 70-80% of the players stop playing? Would it force casinos to not continue with KYC? because they would go bankrupt.

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March 08, 2024, 09:37:39 AM
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because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

We have to consider the disadvantage of physical bulkiness, these gambling platforms are not safe in their physical appearance considering the amount of money they earned in fiat local currencies, they can be rendered under physical assault for theft, there could also be a means of physical violence in some of these casino houses, gamblers can abuse the casinos in any manner of assault including their fellow gamblers which there's none of these in any form with online gambling platforms.

However people may be less reluctant to use an on-line less known place rather than a physical location. It happens also to many people when shopping, not just for gambling - the physical location is both a marketing spot and a sign of having some real business behind. Yes, there can be criminals, but there are usually also some ways to protect the cash - not that people use cash that much.

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March 08, 2024, 11:50:32 AM
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because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

We have to consider the disadvantage of physical bulkiness, these gambling platforms are not safe in their physical appearance considering the amount of money they earned in fiat local currencies, they can be rendered under physical assault for theft, there could also be a means of physical violence in some of these casino houses, gamblers can abuse the casinos in any manner of assault including their fellow gamblers which there's none of these in any form with online gambling platforms.
I share in the view of both you, and @Slow death has very good points, and you have somewhat good points too, but still, I will dance more to the side of @Slow death because all that he said are realities of the day, except that it can't be as total as he stated it. Whether true or not, people believe better in the kind of brick-and-mortar arrangement where they would be able to see the representatives of the casinos. In some cases where it is the direct involvement of the casinos and not agents/franchisement that is involved in establishing the casinos, there is this high level of trust, especially if what they have in the building is worth a fortune to dissuade them from disappearing into thin air. This arrangement often encourages gamblers and they do not always have that power as though they are entirely online that they are untouchable.

Having a physical presence even means that you have the highest chance of registering and being regulated in the country you are in. The report against the casino could be severely sanctioned if found guilty of this arrangement. For this, the casinos would want to be sincere to a great extent and not be awkward in behaviour like most online casinos do. Also, I would like you to consider the fact that you overemphasized things here. How many physical casinos have you heard were harassed or robbed? These guys are not foolish enough to have to hold huge money with them all the time. Even some people who patronise them do transfer to them and not pay with physical cash. The same thing goes to when they want to pay huge money, they do not pay in cash. Above all, no business is without its issues, but the way we handle them matters.

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You are absolutely right, in fact when I started to know about casinos, bitcoins and all this part, I was part of a project of a privacy policy that was going to last, because for me it seemed or maximum, because for me it was always better having that type of currency that became impossible to trace and I liked that, because from the beginning I always thought about those rights, privacy and anonymity and just what we were really looking for , because those are things that we always thought about obtaining.

But actually the Cassians are not like that, they do not provide this type of service, and there is no way to excahnge them, so in any of the Jurisdictions things will be very unfavorable for us as players, but how can it be done currently? because I know that if you as a player stand up in protest you will not do anything, it has to be a conglomerate that stands up and no longer accepts this type of things, and seeing how everything is going, I think that in the future the players will seek to become more involved anonymous, with more privacy, because there will be Freedom from everything.

Casinos will always make the difference, they are companies that will always handle a lot of money, but what happens if 70-80% of the players stop playing? Would it force casinos to not continue with KYC? because they would go bankrupt.

What you are talking about, I think, is the obvious dream of any normal cryptocurrency owner.
 It’s just that the cryptocurrency was originally created thanks to Satoshi’s brilliant invention as an anonymous means of payment.  And it’s not for nothing that the world still doesn’t know who Satoshi is. 
I hope that anonymous and private payment processes will still develop in parallel with personalized and non-anonymous payments.  There are simply areas of human activity where secret money transfers are preferable.  I am not talking about criminals, fraudsters and those who launder criminal money.  Law enforcement agencies must fight them; it is their task to track down and catch such criminals.  And put them in prison.  I'm talking about ordinary people who are law-abiding but who need anonymity.
 By the way, in a casino, in my opinion, most of the players would prefer not to reveal their identity.  And there are many reasons for this. 
For example, a player does not want his employer to know about his passion for gambling.  Since this can harm such an employee.  And there are many other reasons to remain anonymous.

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For example, a player does not want his employer to know about his passion for gambling.  Since this can harm such an employee.  And there are many other reasons to remain anonymous.

This is a very important point, there are many jobs that are very careful when choosing their workers, basically because in each company each of the workers are direct ambassadors of the company, for that reason they turn out to be jealous, and sometimes because The criteria and standards of the same company would not be good if they were discovered in gambling or something similar, sometimes it is not good seen in jobs that are more delicate, they can be banks or government entities, especially if they are regulators of the Likewise, if a casino could Offer a paid service that guarantees the non-identification of players who want to remain Anonymous , I think it would be a good option and that this data would be saved in a type of DeepVault that works only with the player's private keys. to whom you want to provide the service, that may be one of the things they can do , it doesn't Matter , it may be that for the service they have to pay 2 or 3 USD per month , but it would be worth it, of course it is a solution that It occurred to me, I Don't know how Viable it would be.

Regarding  crimes that can be committed, we know that criminals will always find any type of tool to use in their favor, that will always be something that cannot be avoided.

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March 12, 2024, 06:10:32 PM
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because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

We have to consider the disadvantage of physical bulkiness, these gambling platforms are not safe in their physical appearance considering the amount of money they earned in fiat local currencies, they can be rendered under physical assault for theft, there could also be a means of physical violence in some of these casino houses, gamblers can abuse the casinos in any manner of assault including their fellow gamblers which there's none of these in any form with online gambling platforms.

However people may be less reluctant to use an on-line less known place rather than a physical location. It happens also to many people when shopping, not just for gambling - the physical location is both a marketing spot and a sign of having some real business behind. Yes, there can be criminals, but there are usually also some ways to protect the cash - not that people use cash that much.

There's also a means of making all these through the online gambling platform, some of them take advantages in making advertisements as well using adds but their difference is that you can have other things advertised on their platform than what they do as service while on the physical sites, you can buy and sell on real items and make business as well outside the contest of the gambling platform because their regulations does not restrict for doing such.



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March 13, 2024, 07:32:04 AM
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For example, a player does not want his employer to know about his passion for gambling.  Since this can harm such an employee.  And there are many other reasons to remain anonymous.

This is a very important point, there are many jobs that are very careful when choosing their workers, basically because in each company each of the workers are direct ambassadors of the company, for that reason they turn out to be jealous, and sometimes because The criteria and standards of the same company would not be good if they were discovered in gambling or something similar, sometimes it is not good seen in jobs that are more delicate, they can be banks or government entities, especially if they are regulators of the Likewise, if a casino could Offer a paid service that guarantees the non-identification of players who want to remain Anonymous , I think it would be a good option and that this data would be saved in a type of DeepVault that works only with the player's private keys. to whom you want to provide the service, that may be one of the things they can do , it doesn't Matter , it may be that for the service they have to pay 2 or 3 USD per month , but it would be worth it, of course it is a solution that It occurred to me, I Don't know how Viable it would be.

Regarding  crimes that can be committed, we know that criminals will always find any type of tool to use in their favor, that will always be something that cannot be avoided.

I also know that in many countries employers very carefully and carefully study the overall lifestyle of the employee they hire.  Obviously this applies to well-paid jobs.  And such a hobby as gambling will definitely spoil the image of an employee if the employer finds out about it either when hiring, or this person is already working in this position.  This may even be a reason for dismissal.  And the employer can be understood simply because he can place the employee’s passion for gambling even on the same level in assessing an employee with such obvious human vices as alcoholism or drug addiction.  It’s just that the employer sees such a person as an avid gambler, even if the employee is not one.
 That is why maintaining anonymity, including the method you wrote about, is very important for the career and, in general, for the work activity of the employee.  And the loss of anonymity in this case can have catastrophically destructive consequences for this player.

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March 13, 2024, 08:05:44 PM
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For example, a player does not want his employer to know about his passion for gambling.  Since this can harm such an employee.  And there are many other reasons to remain anonymous.

This is a very important point, there are many jobs that are very careful when choosing their workers, basically because in each company each of the workers are direct ambassadors of the company, for that reason they turn out to be jealous, and sometimes because The criteria and standards of the same company would not be good if they were discovered in gambling or something similar, sometimes it is not good seen in jobs that are more delicate, they can be banks or government entities, especially if they are regulators of the Likewise, if a casino could Offer a paid service that guarantees the non-identification of players who want to remain Anonymous , I think it would be a good option and that this data would be saved in a type of DeepVault that works only with the player's private keys. to whom you want to provide the service, that may be one of the things they can do , it doesn't Matter , it may be that for the service they have to pay 2 or 3 USD per month , but it would be worth it, of course it is a solution that It occurred to me, I Don't know how Viable it would be.

Regarding  crimes that can be committed, we know that criminals will always find any type of tool to use in their favor, that will always be something that cannot be avoided.

I also know that in many countries employers very carefully and carefully study the overall lifestyle of the employee they hire.  Obviously this applies to well-paid jobs.  And such a hobby as gambling will definitely spoil the image of an employee if the employer finds out about it either when hiring, or this person is already working in this position.  This may even be a reason for dismissal.  And the employer can be understood simply because he can place the employee’s passion for gambling even on the same level in assessing an employee with such obvious human vices as alcoholism or drug addiction.  It’s just that the employer sees such a person as an avid gambler, even if the employee is not one.
 That is why maintaining anonymity, including the method you wrote about, is very important for the career and, in general, for the work activity of the employee.  And the loss of anonymity in this case can have catastrophically destructive consequences for this player.

I agree with that motion, because it is logical that an employer has a person who carefully studies the background of the potential employee and if he knows that he plays in a casino, the employer will want to watch his back, the first thing they think is that they are not going to hire to a person who is probably addicted (even if they are not) that is most of the Perception that they have about the people who gamble in the casino, of course not everyone thinks those things about the people who gamble in the casino, but Since we live in a society where they basically like to generalize and have the appearance of a typically perfect person, they cling to those standards to justify their decision, and not only for that, but if the person hires someone and has problems, the company is in the obligation that your employee needs specialized care, then the company has to assume those expenses, which is something that companies do not like to assume.

These reasons are extremely important when it comes to anything, not just a job, but anything in everyday life, it is a thousand times better to maintain privacy and anonymity for these reasons and many more, we live in a system that requires having certain rules, that when they are not followed you can be judged, although the truth is that it doesn't matter to me, if no one tells me in front of me anything doesn't matter to me, because I am a person who is so involved in my things that I don't care what people think.

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March 14, 2024, 06:58:18 AM
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For example, a player does not want his employer to know about his passion for gambling.  Since this can harm such an employee.  And there are many other reasons to remain anonymous.

This is a very important point, there are many jobs that are very careful when choosing their workers, basically because in each company each of the workers are direct ambassadors of the company, for that reason they turn out to be jealous, and sometimes because The criteria and standards of the same company would not be good if they were discovered in gambling or something similar, sometimes it is not good seen in jobs that are more delicate, they can be banks or government entities, especially if they are regulators of the Likewise, if a casino could Offer a paid service that guarantees the non-identification of players who want to remain Anonymous , I think it would be a good option and that this data would be saved in a type of DeepVault that works only with the player's private keys. to whom you want to provide the service, that may be one of the things they can do , it doesn't Matter , it may be that for the service they have to pay 2 or 3 USD per month , but it would be worth it, of course it is a solution that It occurred to me, I Don't know how Viable it would be.

Regarding  crimes that can be committed, we know that criminals will always find any type of tool to use in their favor, that will always be something that cannot be avoided.

I also know that in many countries employers very carefully and carefully study the overall lifestyle of the employee they hire.  Obviously this applies to well-paid jobs.  And such a hobby as gambling will definitely spoil the image of an employee if the employer finds out about it either when hiring, or this person is already working in this position.  This may even be a reason for dismissal.  And the employer can be understood simply because he can place the employee’s passion for gambling even on the same level in assessing an employee with such obvious human vices as alcoholism or drug addiction.  It’s just that the employer sees such a person as an avid gambler, even if the employee is not one.
 That is why maintaining anonymity, including the method you wrote about, is very important for the career and, in general, for the work activity of the employee.  And the loss of anonymity in this case can have catastrophically destructive consequences for this player.

I agree with that motion, because it is logical that an employer has a person who carefully studies the background of the potential employee and if he knows that he plays in a casino, the employer will want to watch his back, the first thing they think is that they are not going to hire to a person who is probably addicted (even if they are not) that is most of the Perception that they have about the people who gamble in the casino, of course not everyone thinks those things about the people who gamble in the casino, but Since we live in a society where they basically like to generalize and have the appearance of a typically perfect person, they cling to those standards to justify their decision, and not only for that, but if the person hires someone and has problems, the company is in the obligation that your employee needs specialized care, then the company has to assume those expenses, which is something that companies do not like to assume.

These reasons are extremely important when it comes to anything, not just a job, but anything in everyday life, it is a thousand times better to maintain privacy and anonymity for these reasons and many more, we live in a system that requires having certain rules, that when they are not followed you can be judged, although the truth is that it doesn't matter to me, if no one tells me in front of me anything doesn't matter to me, because I am a person who is so involved in my things that I don't care what people think.

Yeah!  Of course, maintaining anonymity when gambling is much preferable to publicly disclosing such personal information.  Sometimes there are cases when even the closest relatives do not know that their loved one is an avid gambler.  Apart from the employer, from whom it is of course better to hide such data, sometimes this hobby has to be hidden from the public simply because of the government policies of certain countries where there is a direct ban or public condemnation of gambling.  So there are many options for people who prefer to remain anonymous.  Even I think that the vast majority of players would prefer not to undergo KYC at a casino if they were confident in advance that the casino would accurately and without any problems pay them the money they won at any time the player wishes.  But this doesn’t happen in real life and players have to go through KYC. 

Nevertheless, I see a clear gap in legislation here, primarily in US legislation, which does not properly regulate such an issue.  And this should finally be done simply for reasons of humanizing society and preserving the human right to private life.

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March 14, 2024, 02:56:46 PM
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Yeah!  Of course, maintaining anonymity when gambling is much preferable to publicly disclosing such personal information.  Sometimes there are cases when even the closest relatives do not know that their loved one is an avid gambler.  Apart from the employer, from whom it is of course better to hide such data, sometimes this hobby has to be hidden from the public simply because of the government policies of certain countries where there is a direct ban or public condemnation of gambling.  So there are many options for people who prefer to remain anonymous.  Even I think that the vast majority of players would prefer not to undergo KYC at a casino if they were confident in advance that the casino would accurately and without any problems pay them the money they won at any time the player wishes.  But this doesn’t happen in real life and players have to go through KYC.  

Nevertheless, I see a clear gap in legislation here, primarily in US legislation, which does not properly regulate such an issue.  And this should finally be done simply for reasons of humanizing society and preserving the human right to private life.

It is very true, there is also something that the USA is Managing in a Great Way, it is that with their regulations they make the Countries of the world adapt to their measures, there it is, they say that it is going to Prohibit certain Countries so that they do not have Access to certain Privileges and the things are done as they say, so at a global level they pay a lot of attention to the power that the USA has, then these policies are passed on to the casinos, to the exchanges, and the main sites have regulations, then this type of thing has Decreased freedoms in Every sense, so when talking about KYC it is total control that is being Implemented, this is what is coming and each time anonymity, privacy is much less what People enjoy , the Flow Our data is quite Easy to find on the web, even so for people who do not like leaving traces on the Internet it is possible to find data about them, then, if they do not have social networks where their Names appear,  DNI, full name and sector where you live.

These are things that are Inexplicable to many , Because that is the Reason why people's Iinjuries sometimes Appear on the web and in reality

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because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

We have to consider the disadvantage of physical bulkiness, these gambling platforms are not safe in their physical appearance considering the amount of money they earned in fiat local currencies, they can be rendered under physical assault for theft, there could also be a means of physical violence in some of these casino houses, gamblers can abuse the casinos in any manner of assault including their fellow gamblers which there's none of these in any form with online gambling platforms.
I share in the view of both you, and @Slow death has very good points, and you have somewhat good points too, but still, I will dance more to the side of @Slow death because all that he said are realities of the day, except that it can't be as total as he stated it. Whether true or not, people believe better in the kind of brick-and-mortar arrangement where they would be able to see the representatives of the casinos. In some cases where it is the direct involvement of the casinos and not agents/franchisement that is involved in establishing the casinos, there is this high level of trust, especially if what they have in the building is worth a fortune to dissuade them from disappearing into thin air. This arrangement often encourages gamblers and they do not always have that power as though they are entirely online that they are untouchable.

I got your points and you're absolutely right, in addition to it all, there are many things to consider before having a gambling platform established, the source to where this idea being generated is very important, some have it as a direct gambling business and they run their platform by themselves while some go into a partnership kind of franchise when the finance needed could not be able to catch up with the needs in demand, which is part of the serious challenges many platforms are having before the whole administration is being centralized into categories and you cannot easily effect any change or implement anything that has to do with financial liquidity.



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March 14, 2024, 05:09:17 PM
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because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

We have to consider the disadvantage of physical bulkiness, these gambling platforms are not safe in their physical appearance considering the amount of money they earn in fiat local currencies, they can be rendered under physical assault for theft, and there could also be a means of physical violence in some of these casino houses, gamblers can abuse the casinos in any manner of assault including their fellow gamblers which there's none of these in any form with online gambling platforms.
I believe the CEO's knows the importance of the privacy and at will continue to operate with all levels of privacy and this is why we have come to a point where all the facts and factors point to the casino with the highest liquidity this is like it will be measured in terms of high withdrawal,  and also how best the casinos act within the stipulated laws that guide the conduct of all the parties involved.


Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.

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March 18, 2024, 11:45:54 AM
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Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.
Gone are the days when one could deposit, gamble, and withdraw any amount in a cryptocurrency gambling platform without having to comply with AML and KYC rules because there was nothing of such kind back in the day. When we talk about privacy, reputable platforms always care about the privacy of their customers no matter what, some people think that the platform asking for KYC is hindering their privacy, but the reality is, that they are compelled to do that.

If a centralized platform doesn't comply with rules and regulations imposed by the authorities, they have the fear of their licenses getting cancelled and having their platforms closed down because they need to comply with the regulations, it's more of a necessity for them.

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March 18, 2024, 12:27:57 PM
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Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.
Gone are the days when one could deposit, gamble, and withdraw any amount in a cryptocurrency gambling platform without having to comply with AML and KYC rules because there was nothing of such kind back in the day. When we talk about privacy, reputable platforms always care about the privacy of their customers no matter what, some people think that the platform asking for KYC is hindering their privacy, but the reality is, that they are compelled to do that.

If a centralized platform doesn't comply with rules and regulations imposed by the authorities, they have the fear of their licenses getting cancelled and having their platforms closed down because they need to comply with the regulations, it's more of a necessity for them.
You are completely right, but unfortunately, this is something that most gamblers always fail to understand, they tend to blame the casino or curse the casino for imposing kyc verification on their account, forgetting that without the casino doing that, the casino may one day go offline without the possiblity of them coming back online, and when that happens, same customer complaining about the casino asking kyc document for verification, may also lose his or her money.

It's like you've said, gone are the days when the government cared less about the people and their online identities, alot have changed in this regard and we mustn't hate and boycott our favorite casinos because they are implementing kyc verification system and seem to be imposing it on their customers, no business wants to lose their customers, most especially, their loyal ones, but when it comes to kyc, most casino can't do much is it's completely out of their control.

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March 18, 2024, 02:42:04 PM
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because in physical casinos people know that the chances of scams are very low, they know the owners of the casino and they know very well that the owner of the physical casino will not run away with the customers' money, because he will easily be arrested, and it would be without It makes sense for a rich physical casino owner to steal little money from customers, so in my opinion what makes physical casinos the ones that make the most money is the fact that physical casinos are more reliable

We have to consider the disadvantage of physical bulkiness, these gambling platforms are not safe in their physical appearance considering the amount of money they earn in fiat local currencies, they can be rendered under physical assault for theft, and there could also be a means of physical violence in some of these casino houses, gamblers can abuse the casinos in any manner of assault including their fellow gamblers which there's none of these in any form with online gambling platforms.
I believe the CEO's knows the importance of the privacy and at will continue to operate with all levels of privacy and this is why we have come to a point where all the facts and factors point to the casino with the highest liquidity this is like it will be measured in terms of high withdrawal,  and also how best the casinos act within the stipulated laws that guide the conduct of all the parties involved.


Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.
Whoa, that's kind of Stake.com and I must say that I love to read things like this as their campaigner. We can't ignore the importance of the high liquidity of any company we are dealing with and it's no news that Stake.com is a well-liquid casino and sportsbook with a huge track record so far. This coupled with the huge reputation it has built in the course of years.

Now imagine a person gambling with such a company, the fear would definitely be alleyed, and no matter how much the money to be wagered and the winning possibility, it would be rest assured that it will be taken care of by such a well-prepared company. Needless to say, Stake.com is managing the risk internally as well which also depends on the multiplier in the game in question. By this internal management, they will reasonably avoid the risks they can't be able to honour its winning. This is wise and helps both parties, but such an amount would have been so huge to say the least.

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March 18, 2024, 03:27:43 PM
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I believe the CEO's knows the importance of the privacy and at will continue to operate with all levels of privacy and this is why we have come to a point where all the facts and factors point to the casino with the highest liquidity this is like it will be measured in terms of high withdrawal,  and also how best the casinos act within the stipulated laws that guide the conduct of all the parties involved.


Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.

You know that time goes by and things continue to change, what we may e privileged to enjoy several years back may not be the same conditions of the requirements needed because obviously the economy and financial obligations have changed as well, we have to go along with the way thing operates now base on the current updates with the gambling sectors in this present conditions, those that have been seen as the most liquid gambling company then does not exist like before again and new one are taking over to make their own new offers and regulations concerning these.



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March 18, 2024, 03:52:56 PM
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Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.
Gone are the days when one could deposit, gamble, and withdraw any amount in a cryptocurrency gambling platform without having to comply with AML and KYC rules because there was nothing of such kind back in the day. When we talk about privacy, reputable platforms always care about the privacy of their customers no matter what, some people think that the platform asking for KYC is hindering their privacy, but the reality is, that they are compelled to do that.

If a centralized platform doesn't comply with rules and regulations imposed by the authorities, they have the fear of their licenses getting cancelled and having their platforms closed down because they need to comply with the regulations, it's more of a necessity for them.
You are completely right, but unfortunately, this is something that most gamblers always fail to understand, they tend to blame the casino or curse the casino for imposing kyc verification on their account, forgetting that without the casino doing that, the casino may one day go offline without the possiblity of them coming back online, and when that happens, same customer complaining about the casino asking kyc document for verification, may also lose his or her money.

It's like you've said, gone are the days when the government cared less about the people and their online identities, alot have changed in this regard and we mustn't hate and boycott our favorite casinos because they are implementing kyc verification system and seem to be imposing it on their customers, no business wants to lose their customers, most especially, their loyal ones, but when it comes to kyc, most casino can't do much is it's completely out of their control.
I think just as it be to exchange so it is with casino's,  for legislatmacy sake, it best to gamble on a KYC compliance casino,  because in terms of liquidity provision,  centralised platforms tend to have more liquidity compared to their decentralised contourpart, because investors investors will have more confidence in those platform that have some form of licensing for the operations.

Anyways if I am in position to chose at anytime a new casino then I will surly go for a good kyc casino and pass through the processes that enable me to withdraw my winning anytime I hit the jackpot, instead of relying on a no kyc casino that take my money and never pay out when there is winning due to low liquidities.
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March 18, 2024, 05:27:10 PM
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I believe the CEO's knows the importance of the privacy and at will continue to operate with all levels of privacy and this is why we have come to a point where all the facts and factors point to the casino with the highest liquidity this is like it will be measured in terms of high withdrawal,  and also how best the casinos act within the stipulated laws that guide the conduct of all the parties involved.


Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.

You know that time goes by and things continue to change, what we may e privileged to enjoy several years back may not be the same conditions of the requirements needed because obviously the economy and financial obligations have changed as well, we have to go along with the way thing operates now base on the current updates with the gambling sectors in this present conditions, those that have been seen as the most liquid gambling company then does not exist like before again and new one are taking over to make their own new offers and regulations concerning these.


That's right, there has been quite a bit of a long stretch of good markets, good crypto and in general a good pace of growth mostly everywhere except in some poorly managed countries. We should not be thinking that this is going to be like this for a long time, there are periods in which all contract and then is when you will need to make sure the site is "liquid".

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March 18, 2024, 06:36:40 PM
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Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.
Gone are the days when one could deposit, gamble, and withdraw any amount in a cryptocurrency gambling platform without having to comply with AML and KYC rules because there was nothing of such kind back in the day. When we talk about privacy, reputable platforms always care about the privacy of their customers no matter what, some people think that the platform asking for KYC is hindering their privacy, but the reality is, that they are compelled to do that.

If a centralized platform doesn't comply with rules and regulations imposed by the authorities, they have the fear of their licenses getting cancelled and having their platforms closed down because they need to comply with the regulations, it's more of a necessity for them.
You are completely right, but unfortunately, this is something that most gamblers always fail to understand, they tend to blame the casino or curse the casino for imposing kyc verification on their account, forgetting that without the casino doing that, the casino may one day go offline without the possiblity of them coming back online, and when that happens, same customer complaining about the casino asking kyc document for verification, may also lose his or her money.

It's like you've said, gone are the days when the government cared less about the people and their online identities, alot have changed in this regard and we mustn't hate and boycott our favorite casinos because they are implementing kyc verification system and seem to be imposing it on their customers, no business wants to lose their customers, most especially, their loyal ones, but when it comes to kyc, most casino can't do much is it's completely out of their control.
I think just as it be to exchange so it is with casino's,  for legislatmacy sake, it best to gamble on a KYC compliance casino,  because in terms of liquidity provision,  centralised platforms tend to have more liquidity compared to their decentralised contourpart, because investors investors will have more confidence in those platform that have some form of licensing for the operations.

Anyways if I am in position to chose at anytime a new casino then I will surly go for a good kyc casino and pass through the processes that enable me to withdraw my winning anytime I hit the jackpot, instead of relying on a no kyc casino that take my money and never pay out when there is winning due to low liquidities.

I don't know if this has much to do with KYC, but it seems that everyone looks for centralized casinos because the attention is immediate and problems can be resolved faster than casinos that are decentralized, but seeing the cases that exist it is very different when things are done when investors need to have their money safe, because you are right about that, casinos that are centralized tend to give trust, in a decentralized casino and in centralized exchanges I also trust more because any problem is easy solution, in a decentralized casino or in a decentralized exchange things are harder, because service usually takes longer.

Hours and days that pass with our money on a platform without giving a solution to anyone despairs, then this is the advantage that these sites have.

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Yeah!  Of course, maintaining anonymity when gambling is much preferable to publicly disclosing such personal information.  Sometimes there are cases when even the closest relatives do not know that their loved one is an avid gambler.  Apart from the employer, from whom it is of course better to hide such data, sometimes this hobby has to be hidden from the public simply because of the government policies of certain countries where there is a direct ban or public condemnation of gambling.  So there are many options for people who prefer to remain anonymous.  Even I think that the vast majority of players would prefer not to undergo KYC at a casino if they were confident in advance that the casino would accurately and without any problems pay them the money they won at any time the player wishes.  But this doesn’t happen in real life and players have to go through KYC.  

Nevertheless, I see a clear gap in legislation here, primarily in US legislation, which does not properly regulate such an issue.  And this should finally be done simply for reasons of humanizing society and preserving the human right to private life.

It is very true, there is also something that the USA is Managing in a Great Way, it is that with their regulations they make the Countries of the world adapt to their measures, there it is, they say that it is going to Prohibit certain Countries so that they do not have Access to certain Privileges and the things are done as they say, so at a global level they pay a lot of attention to the power that the USA has, then these policies are passed on to the casinos, to the exchanges, and the main sites have regulations, then this type of thing has Decreased freedoms in Every sense, so when talking about KYC it is total control that is being Implemented, this is what is coming and each time anonymity, privacy is much less what People enjoy , the Flow Our data is quite Easy to find on the web, even so for people who do not like leaving traces on the Internet it is possible to find data about them, then, if they do not have social networks where their Names appear,  DNI, full name and sector where you live.

These are things that are Inexplicable to many , Because that is the Reason why people's Iinjuries sometimes Appear on the web and in reality
I think that the example with the elections in the USA, when two old people are going to be elected president and there are no younger candidates from any of the leading parties in the country, this all reduces the image of the USA on the world stage and many countries will no longer consider the legislators of the USA as the base  legislators for the whole world. 
Gradually, the role of the USA in the world is decreasing. 
But their possibility remains of issuing the world currency $. 
But the role of this currency as a whole in the world is also declining. 
But what path other countries will take when regulating their financial systems and in particular the balance and ratio of anonymous/personalized payments in cryptocurrencies is a big and interesting question. 

I do not completely rule out that anonymous payments will continue to exist for a long time.  There will also be pseudo-anonymous payments in cash for a long time.
 All these processes directly affect KYC and the spread of this procedure throughout the world.  Let’s hope that the onslaught of KYC on crypto payments will slow down or perhaps begin to gradually disappear altogether.  And now there is already too much de-anonymization in crypto payments.

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March 20, 2024, 06:59:47 PM
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Yeah!  Of course, maintaining anonymity when gambling is much preferable to publicly disclosing such personal information.  Sometimes there are cases when even the closest relatives do not know that their loved one is an avid gambler.  Apart from the employer, from whom it is of course better to hide such data, sometimes this hobby has to be hidden from the public simply because of the government policies of certain countries where there is a direct ban or public condemnation of gambling.  So there are many options for people who prefer to remain anonymous.  Even I think that the vast majority of players would prefer not to undergo KYC at a casino if they were confident in advance that the casino would accurately and without any problems pay them the money they won at any time the player wishes.  But this doesn’t happen in real life and players have to go through KYC.  

Nevertheless, I see a clear gap in legislation here, primarily in US legislation, which does not properly regulate such an issue.  And this should finally be done simply for reasons of humanizing society and preserving the human right to private life.

It is very true, there is also something that the USA is Managing in a Great Way, it is that with their regulations they make the Countries of the world adapt to their measures, there it is, they say that it is going to Prohibit certain Countries so that they do not have Access to certain Privileges and the things are done as they say, so at a global level they pay a lot of attention to the power that the USA has, then these policies are passed on to the casinos, to the exchanges, and the main sites have regulations, then this type of thing has Decreased freedoms in Every sense, so when talking about KYC it is total control that is being Implemented, this is what is coming and each time anonymity, privacy is much less what People enjoy , the Flow Our data is quite Easy to find on the web, even so for people who do not like leaving traces on the Internet it is possible to find data about them, then, if they do not have social networks where their Names appear,  DNI, full name and sector where you live.

These are things that are Inexplicable to many , Because that is the Reason why people's Iinjuries sometimes Appear on the web and in reality
I think that the example with the elections in the USA, when two old people are going to be elected president and there are no younger candidates from any of the leading parties in the country, this all reduces the image of the USA on the world stage and many countries will no longer consider the legislators of the USA as the base  legislators for the whole world. 
Gradually, the role of the USA in the world is decreasing. 
But their possibility remains of issuing the world currency $. 
But the role of this currency as a whole in the world is also declining. 
But what path other countries will take when regulating their financial systems and in particular the balance and ratio of anonymous/personalized payments in cryptocurrencies is a big and interesting question. 

I do not completely rule out that anonymous payments will continue to exist for a long time.  There will also be pseudo-anonymous payments in cash for a long time.
 All these processes directly affect KYC and the spread of this procedure throughout the world.  Let’s hope that the onslaught of KYC on crypto payments will slow down or perhaps begin to gradually disappear altogether.  And now there is already too much de-anonymization in crypto payments.
Well, really that is the ideal, generally I see USA as one of the countries with the most power in the world, in fact after the Second World War they have great respect from everyone in the world, and this is reflected in their currency that, as you say, is the one that manages finances worldwide, everyone works to obtain dollars, and that is a hegemony that has always existed, therefore it is something that will be seen as one of the most powerful countries in the world, and that is why it is that KYC is one of the things that they want to control, well not only them, I consider that the great powers are also on top of this, none of them are interested in private economies developing and achieving financial freedom, that is something that they do not allow themselves, and given this, they begin to take the main step which is anonymity, privacy, something that they will not allow.

Regarding  crypto payments, well that's what you say, I hope that these processes due to their KYC slow down and don't focus so much on it, previously, back in 2017 the importance of bitcoin and crypto was not considered so much , but since it is now very much worth money, they want to take slices from there.

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March 20, 2024, 07:04:28 PM
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I believe the CEO's knows the importance of the privacy and at will continue to operate with all levels of privacy and this is why we have come to a point where all the facts and factors point to the casino with the highest liquidity this is like it will be measured in terms of high withdrawal,  and also how best the casinos act within the stipulated laws that guide the conduct of all the parties involved.


Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.

You know that time goes by and things continue to change, what we may e privileged to enjoy several years back may not be the same conditions of the requirements needed because obviously the economy and financial obligations have changed as well, we have to go along with the way thing operates now base on the current updates with the gambling sectors in this present conditions, those that have been seen as the most liquid gambling company then does not exist like before again and new one are taking over to make their own new offers and regulations concerning these.


That's right, there has been quite a bit of a long stretch of good markets, good crypto and in general a good pace of growth mostly everywhere except in some poorly managed countries. We should not be thinking that this is going to be like this for a long time, there are periods in which all contract and then is when you will need to make sure the site is "liquid".

I've got your point from here, however, should we make the standard of liquidity as our major basis for determining the reputation of a gambling company and such should be used in selecting for one or we should not only rely on that, we have to see them pass the test of time and see how reliable they could be in terms of quality gambling services and trust we have in them.



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I believe the CEO's knows the importance of the privacy and at will continue to operate with all levels of privacy and this is why we have come to a point where all the facts and factors point to the casino with the highest liquidity this is like it will be measured in terms of high withdrawal,  and also how best the casinos act within the stipulated laws that guide the conduct of all the parties involved.


Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.

You know that time goes by and things continue to change, what we may e privileged to enjoy several years back may not be the same conditions of the requirements needed because obviously the economy and financial obligations have changed as well, we have to go along with the way thing operates now base on the current updates with the gambling sectors in this present conditions, those that have been seen as the most liquid gambling company then does not exist like before again and new one are taking over to make their own new offers and regulations concerning these.


That's right, there has been quite a bit of a long stretch of good markets, good crypto and in general a good pace of growth mostly everywhere except in some poorly managed countries. We should not be thinking that this is going to be like this for a long time, there are periods in which all contract and then is when you will need to make sure the site is "liquid".

I've got your point from here, however, should we make the standard of liquidity as our major basis for determining the reputation of a gambling company and such should be used in selecting for one or we should not only rely on that, we have to see them pass the test of time and see how reliable they could be in terms of quality gambling services and trust we have in them.

What I think it refers to is the situation that not everything lasts a lifetime, and that is something very true, you have to take advantage of the moments where the situation for some betting houses can be very profitable and when the companies win and They get their money paid, it is a casino, and casinos can go down due to any type of error, it is a company that when it does not receive good administration or attention everything can go down, that is what it means.

The circumstances that exist today are not the same as those of a few years ago, and that has to be seen, I am a person who has learned to see things that way too, because it is easier to take advantage of good things, and it is not They do so many things so that they can generate conflicts Regarding money, what drives everything in these industries is money and that is only the case of the rise or Bankruptcy of a casino.

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March 20, 2024, 07:37:03 PM
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I've got your point from here, however, should we make the standard of liquidity as our major basis for determining the reputation of a gambling company and such should be used in selecting for one or we should not only rely on that, we have to see them pass the test of time and see how reliable they could be in terms of quality gambling services and trust we have in them.
Both new and old casinos have the right and ability to build on their liquidity and at first glance we shouldn't take liquidity availability to mean what detrermind what make a casino a reputable one because it goes beyond that and it cought across to how much is the casino paying as in their highest withdrawal in history and how their keep up with the issues of paying for huge winning and what pressure their put the gamblers through before they get their funds out.

Also how their approach is to none verified users who are acting right and accordingly to the lay down rules of the casinos which most time states that benchmarks for kyc is 5k and above both in deposits and withdrawal attempts.

I think the above make up for more when building a reputation as both a new casino or an old one who want to make attempts to build on what is already on ground. Liquidity can be manipulated but then it means alit also but not the primary factors.
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Yeah!  Of course, maintaining anonymity when gambling is much preferable to publicly disclosing such personal information.  Sometimes there are cases when even the closest relatives do not know that their loved one is an avid gambler.  Apart from the employer, from whom it is of course better to hide such data, sometimes this hobby has to be hidden from the public simply because of the government policies of certain countries where there is a direct ban or public condemnation of gambling.  So there are many options for people who prefer to remain anonymous.  Even I think that the vast majority of players would prefer not to undergo KYC at a casino if they were confident in advance that the casino would accurately and without any problems pay them the money they won at any time the player wishes.  But this doesn’t happen in real life and players have to go through KYC.  

Nevertheless, I see a clear gap in legislation here, primarily in US legislation, which does not properly regulate such an issue.  And this should finally be done simply for reasons of humanizing society and preserving the human right to private life.

It is very true, there is also something that the USA is Managing in a Great Way, it is that with their regulations they make the Countries of the world adapt to their measures, there it is, they say that it is going to Prohibit certain Countries so that they do not have Access to certain Privileges and the things are done as they say, so at a global level they pay a lot of attention to the power that the USA has, then these policies are passed on to the casinos, to the exchanges, and the main sites have regulations, then this type of thing has Decreased freedoms in Every sense, so when talking about KYC it is total control that is being Implemented, this is what is coming and each time anonymity, privacy is much less what People enjoy , the Flow Our data is quite Easy to find on the web, even so for people who do not like leaving traces on the Internet it is possible to find data about them, then, if they do not have social networks where their Names appear,  DNI, full name and sector where you live.

These are things that are Inexplicable to many , Because that is the Reason why people's Iinjuries sometimes Appear on the web and in reality
I think that the example with the elections in the USA, when two old people are going to be elected president and there are no younger candidates from any of the leading parties in the country, this all reduces the image of the USA on the world stage and many countries will no longer consider the legislators of the USA as the base  legislators for the whole world. 
Gradually, the role of the USA in the world is decreasing. 
But their possibility remains of issuing the world currency $. 
But the role of this currency as a whole in the world is also declining. 
But what path other countries will take when regulating their financial systems and in particular the balance and ratio of anonymous/personalized payments in cryptocurrencies is a big and interesting question. 

I do not completely rule out that anonymous payments will continue to exist for a long time.  There will also be pseudo-anonymous payments in cash for a long time.
 All these processes directly affect KYC and the spread of this procedure throughout the world.  Let’s hope that the onslaught of KYC on crypto payments will slow down or perhaps begin to gradually disappear altogether.  And now there is already too much de-anonymization in crypto payments.
Well, really that is the ideal, generally I see USA as one of the countries with the most power in the world, in fact after the Second World War they have great respect from everyone in the world, and this is reflected in their currency that, as you say, is the one that manages finances worldwide, everyone works to obtain dollars, and that is a hegemony that has always existed, therefore it is something that will be seen as one of the most powerful countries in the world, and that is why it is that KYC is one of the things that they want to control, well not only them, I consider that the great powers are also on top of this, none of them are interested in private economies developing and achieving financial freedom, that is something that they do not allow themselves, and given this, they begin to take the main step which is anonymity, privacy, something that they will not allow.

Regarding  crypto payments, well that's what you say, I hope that these processes due to their KYC slow down and don't focus so much on it, previously, back in 2017 the importance of bitcoin and crypto was not considered so much , but since it is now very much worth money, they want to take slices from there.

It is likely that the massive offensive of financial clans and, after them, governments, which are not elected by the people at all, but who are put in charge of the countries by these very clans, will continue.  Democracy in its classical sense can now apparently be forgotten and not remembered.  And such an attack on human rights obviously leads to complete total control over the financial transactions of ordinary people.  It is also obvious that as Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies become more and more common in legal payments, for example due to the legalization of spot Bitcoin ETFs, the implementation of KYC by these financial clans and authorities will intensify.  And this primarily concerns the gambling industry, this goes without saying. 
Even I don’t really imagine how to defend my right to anonymity in crypto payments in transactions such as cryptocurrency being exchanged for local fiat money.

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It is likely that the massive offensive of financial clans and, after them, governments, which are not elected by the people at all, but who are put in charge of the countries by these very clans, will continue.  Democracy in its classical sense can now apparently be forgotten and not remembered.  And such an attack on human rights obviously leads to complete total control over the financial transactions of ordinary people.  It is also obvious that as Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies become more and more common in legal payments, for example due to the legalization of spot Bitcoin ETFs, the implementation of KYC by these financial clans and authorities will intensify.  And this primarily concerns the gambling industry, this goes without saying. 
Even I don’t really imagine how to defend my right to anonymity in crypto payments in transactions such as cryptocurrency being exchanged for local fiat money.

All this is very true, I personally always make any type of payment that involves taxes or something like that, and it is better to do it through normal payment with the same local currency, it is much better, sometimes paying with foreign currency It can be synonymous with They Subject us to a possible investigation, however I know that in many Countries in the world what matters is that they have dollars to be able to pay and carry out all these processes in the best way, I have always said something, yes I am in a sensitive country about it , it is best to pay with local currency to avoid future inconveniences.

For those who want to maintain anonymity, it is recommended to use normal fiat payment, for payments with crypto it is not highly recommended to do so because in general they always indicate or usually ask for the person's data, then this is recorded with all the data, and when it is payments that the person makes with bitcoin because it is an indication of monitoring them.

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We know quite alright that gambling companies have this money but they have decided not to go loud about it because they don't want the eye on them to set target from the government regulations and the likes, there are some as well in which this category of gambling platforms are just coming up in building an environment of trust that will lead to their stay and with time they enlarge in coast with what they offers, this are the kinds that started small and mean business and later got developed whereby money is never a problem for them anymore.



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I believe the CEO's knows the importance of the privacy and at will continue to operate with all levels of privacy and this is why we have come to a point where all the facts and factors point to the casino with the highest liquidity this is like it will be measured in terms of high withdrawal,  and also how best the casinos act within the stipulated laws that guide the conduct of all the parties involved.


Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.

You know that time goes by and things continue to change, what we may e privileged to enjoy several years back may not be the same conditions of the requirements needed because obviously the economy and financial obligations have changed as well, we have to go along with the way thing operates now base on the current updates with the gambling sectors in this present conditions, those that have been seen as the most liquid gambling company then does not exist like before again and new one are taking over to make their own new offers and regulations concerning these.


That's right, there has been quite a bit of a long stretch of good markets, good crypto and in general a good pace of growth mostly everywhere except in some poorly managed countries. We should not be thinking that this is going to be like this for a long time, there are periods in which all contract and then is when you will need to make sure the site is "liquid".

I've got your point from here, however, should we make the standard of liquidity as our major basis for determining the reputation of a gambling company and such should be used in selecting for one or we should not only rely on that, we have to see them pass the test of time and see how reliable they could be in terms of quality gambling services and trust we have in them.

What I think it refers to is the situation that not everything lasts a lifetime, and that is something very true, you have to take advantage of the moments where the situation for some betting houses can be very profitable and when the companies win and They get their money paid, it is a casino, and casinos can go down due to any type of error, it is a company that when it does not receive good administration or attention everything can go down, that is what it means.

The circumstances that exist today are not the same as those of a few years ago, and that has to be seen, I am a person who has learned to see things that way too, because it is easier to take advantage of good things, and it is not They do so many things so that they can generate conflicts Regarding money, what drives everything in these industries is money and that is only the case of the rise or Bankruptcy of a casino.
Really? I think you guys are now deviating from the main goal here. Such a discussion like bankruptcy is not the subject here and no company in any field can be exonerated from this, so it is not necessary but the liquidity's importance and relevance in casinos. All companies are trying to manage their situation and continue to get relevant in the industry, so I do not think it should be the main concern in this context. This is also the reason why we should be so vigilant and attentive to the news and development around the companies we are dealing with and also go for those companies that are strong and well-planned and not those who put it quickly together because of the money they want to earn fast.

We cannot overemphasize the importance of liquidity in every company as it measures their strength and greatness in the industry. A good company should be able to overcome the test of time, and you can see what happened to Stake.com last year when over $41m was stolen. It's obvious that most casinos will not be able to survive that, and this shows how liquid they are and also how prepared they are for the casino business. Also, one must try to know the capacity of the company they deal with, and what they have for them in case of issues, especially when the company is stressed. This is why it is good to always go for the best that are fully prepared. I mean those who will still reimburse their customers even if issues happen because they have insurance and also distribute/plan their risk properly.

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It is likely that the massive offensive of financial clans and, after them, governments, which are not elected by the people at all, but who are put in charge of the countries by these very clans, will continue.  Democracy in its classical sense can now apparently be forgotten and not remembered.  And such an attack on human rights obviously leads to complete total control over the financial transactions of ordinary people.  It is also obvious that as Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies become more and more common in legal payments, for example due to the legalization of spot Bitcoin ETFs, the implementation of KYC by these financial clans and authorities will intensify.  And this primarily concerns the gambling industry, this goes without saying. 
Even I don’t really imagine how to defend my right to anonymity in crypto payments in transactions such as cryptocurrency being exchanged for local fiat money.

All this is very true, I personally always make any type of payment that involves taxes or something like that, and it is better to do it through normal payment with the same local currency, it is much better, sometimes paying with foreign currency It can be synonymous with They Subject us to a possible investigation, however I know that in many Countries in the world what matters is that they have dollars to be able to pay and carry out all these processes in the best way, I have always said something, yes I am in a sensitive country about it , it is best to pay with local currency to avoid future inconveniences.

For those who want to maintain anonymity, it is recommended to use normal fiat payment, for payments with crypto it is not highly recommended to do so because in general they always indicate or usually ask for the person's data, then this is recorded with all the data, and when it is payments that the person makes with bitcoin because it is an indication of monitoring them.
Absolutely right. 
Of course, blockchain technology in general always allows you to accurately trace the entire sequence of data on where and where cryptocurrencies are moving, where and how they are exchanged, and in general the entire financial history of their use by a specific person or organization. 
For this reason, in terms of maintaining anonymity, of course, cryptocurrency is inferior to cash and paper money.  But cryptocurrency is significantly superior in anonymity to ordinary bank transfers and the use of plastic cards, even non-personal plastic cards.  And as we found out, anonymity is sometimes needed by any person, and I’m not talking about some kind of money and transfers from scammers and criminal transactions.  These also exist in large numbers, of course, but it seems to me that 99% of criminal payments use paper cash or complicated regular bank transfers. 
But of course, I don’t know the real statistics on the use of cryptocurrencies by criminals. 
I also think that its importance in the criminal world is clearly exaggerated by the representatives of the security forces themselves.  This is logical and it kind of comes to mind when justifying the complexity of law enforcement work for their own marketing purposes.  And therefore this is an excuse for receiving a lot of money from the country’s budget to combat such crimes.

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March 23, 2024, 09:43:12 AM
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We know quite alright that gambling companies have this money but they have decided not to go loud about it because they don't want the eye on them to set target from the government regulations and the likes
True, many of these gambling companies really are liquid but because of some hot eyes on them. What they're doing is they try to be low profile as much as they can. But even they do that, they can't stop the regulators that will always find them relevant into paying taxes.

there are some as well in which this category of gambling platforms are just coming up in building an environment of trust that will lead to their stay and with time they enlarge in coast with what they offers, this are the kinds that started small and mean business and later got developed whereby money is never a problem for them anymore.
Yeah, there are a lot of them that have started small and then the business boomed and clicked and everything is a history.

Many of those that have also got their announcement threads in the forum and as we can see, there are still a lot coming in. While the existing ones, we've known them on how they are already popular in here.

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March 26, 2024, 04:54:32 PM
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True, many of these gambling companies really are liquid but because of some hot eyes on them. What they're doing is they try to be low profile as much as they can. But even they do that, they can't stop the regulators that will always find them relevant into paying taxes.
The reason why regulators and authorities don't allow decentralized platforms and platforms without licenses to operate is because they know such platforms won't report or pay taxes, but platforms that are registered with them and have licenses are compelled to report their revenue and hence pay taxes to the authorities.

A few months back, I read somewhere in the news that authorities are looking to crack down on decentralized platforms, and if they do that, they will either get them shut or ask them to acquire a license and operate under them so that they can tax the revenue they generate from their services. So basically, there is no way for a casino or any other platform to stay safe from this and they will have to pay taxes no matter what.

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Some time ago, I read somewhere how Stake paid winners $150,000 without any demand for KYC which shows how well the company pays attention to privacy, and the high available liquidity to pay customers.
Gone are the days when one could deposit, gamble, and withdraw any amount in a cryptocurrency gambling platform without having to comply with AML and KYC rules because there was nothing of such kind back in the day. When we talk about privacy, reputable platforms always care about the privacy of their customers no matter what, some people think that the platform asking for KYC is hindering their privacy, but the reality is, that they are compelled to do that.

If a centralized platform doesn't comply with rules and regulations imposed by the authorities, they have the fear of their licenses getting cancelled and having their platforms closed down because they need to comply with the regulations, it's more of a necessity for them.
You are completely right, but unfortunately, this is something that most gamblers always fail to understand, they tend to blame the casino or curse the casino for imposing kyc verification on their account, forgetting that without the casino doing that, the casino may one day go offline without the possiblity of them coming back online, and when that happens, same customer complaining about the casino asking kyc document for verification, may also lose his or her money.

It's like you've said, gone are the days when the government cared less about the people and their online identities, alot have changed in this regard and we mustn't hate and boycott our favorite casinos because they are implementing kyc verification system and seem to be imposing it on their customers, no business wants to lose their customers, most especially, their loyal ones, but when it comes to kyc, most casino can't do much is it's completely out of their control.
I think just as it be to exchange so it is with casino's,  for legislatmacy sake, it best to gamble on a KYC compliance casino,  because in terms of liquidity provision,  centralised platforms tend to have more liquidity compared to their decentralised contourpart, because investors investors will have more confidence in those platform that have some form of licensing for the operations.

Anyways if I am in position to chose at anytime a new casino then I will surly go for a good kyc casino and pass through the processes that enable me to withdraw my winning anytime I hit the jackpot, instead of relying on a no kyc casino that take my money and never pay out when there is winning due to low liquidities.
Nice points you have there and the good part is that good and reputable KYC casinos are all over the place for anyone to choose from, which includes Stake.com, and this further validates your point because, for example, liquidity is unwavering with Stake, to say the least. The majority can never be wrong in this regard as they troop into the centralised casinos rather than the decentralised arrangement because, despite the protection the decentralised casinos offer, almost all people still prefer the centralised exchanges, and that could only be majorly for liquidity.
And when they could get what they need there, why not stick to it? Which includes the lower general fees for betting and other transactions.

It will be a long difference if we start mentioning them as many reasons are attributed to the reason for the centralised choice which disfavours the decentralised casinos and favours the centralised casinos even aside from the liquidity. Regardless, the present-day reality is the proof and also key in this discussion, and the very good reason why we should consider the centralised arrangement even as people's reason(s) keeps pumping liquidity into it.

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It is likely that the massive offensive of financial clans and, after them, governments, which are not elected by the people at all, but who are put in charge of the countries by these very clans, will continue.  Democracy in its classical sense can now apparently be forgotten and not remembered.  And such an attack on human rights obviously leads to complete total control over the financial transactions of ordinary people.  It is also obvious that as Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies become more and more common in legal payments, for example due to the legalization of spot Bitcoin ETFs, the implementation of KYC by these financial clans and authorities will intensify.  And this primarily concerns the gambling industry, this goes without saying. 
Even I don’t really imagine how to defend my right to anonymity in crypto payments in transactions such as cryptocurrency being exchanged for local fiat money.

All this is very true, I personally always make any type of payment that involves taxes or something like that, and it is better to do it through normal payment with the same local currency, it is much better, sometimes paying with foreign currency It can be synonymous with They Subject us to a possible investigation, however I know that in many Countries in the world what matters is that they have dollars to be able to pay and carry out all these processes in the best way, I have always said something, yes I am in a sensitive country about it , it is best to pay with local currency to avoid future inconveniences.

For those who want to maintain anonymity, it is recommended to use normal fiat payment, for payments with crypto it is not highly recommended to do so because in general they always indicate or usually ask for the person's data, then this is recorded with all the data, and when it is payments that the person makes with bitcoin because it is an indication of monitoring them.
Absolutely right. 
Of course, blockchain technology in general always allows you to accurately trace the entire sequence of data on where and where cryptocurrencies are moving, where and how they are exchanged, and in general the entire financial history of their use by a specific person or organization. 
For this reason, in terms of maintaining anonymity, of course, cryptocurrency is inferior to cash and paper money.  But cryptocurrency is significantly superior in anonymity to ordinary bank transfers and the use of plastic cards, even non-personal plastic cards.  And as we found out, anonymity is sometimes needed by any person, and I’m not talking about some kind of money and transfers from scammers and criminal transactions.  These also exist in large numbers, of course, but it seems to me that 99% of criminal payments use paper cash or complicated regular bank transfers. 
But of course, I don’t know the real statistics on the use of cryptocurrencies by criminals. 
I also think that its importance in the criminal world is clearly exaggerated by the representatives of the security forces themselves.  This is logical and it kind of comes to mind when justifying the complexity of law enforcement work for their own marketing purposes.  And therefore this is an excuse for receiving a lot of money from the country’s budget to combat such crimes.

There is no doubt about that, I personally could say that things can be very usable in terms of those who can put them to use, I know that in many cases corrupt rulers and people who have always done evil to the world have done so with fiat money, we cannot blame the fiat money for the crimes of some people, so sometimes seeing that they say that they have been robbed and that they have done things to be able to establish themselves better in terms of crypto, well it doesn't make much sense to me that they think Thanks to crypto, more thefts can be made these days, all of these are simply tools.

The things that are referred to crypto, the people who hate them invent all kinds of excuses to make them look bad, then based on anonymity and all this that they want to remove, well they simply want to remove it so that everything is exposed, and Those who use crypto, casinos and all this may be exposed.

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There is no doubt about that, I personally could say that things can be very usable in terms of those who can put them to use, I know that in many cases corrupt rulers and people who have always done evil to the world have done so with fiat money, we cannot blame the fiat money for the crimes of some people, so sometimes seeing that they say that they have been robbed and that they have done things to be able to establish themselves better in terms of crypto, well it doesn't make much sense to me that they think Thanks to crypto, more thefts can be made these days, all of these are simply tools.

The things that are referred to crypto, the people who hate them invent all kinds of excuses to make them look bad, then based on anonymity and all this that they want to remove, well they simply want to remove it so that everything is exposed, and Those who use crypto, casinos and all this may be exposed.
There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.
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There is no doubt about that, I personally could say that things can be very usable in terms of those who can put them to use, I know that in many cases corrupt rulers and people who have always done evil to the world have done so with fiat money, we cannot blame the fiat money for the crimes of some people, so sometimes seeing that they say that they have been robbed and that they have done things to be able to establish themselves better in terms of crypto, well it doesn't make much sense to me that they think Thanks to crypto, more thefts can be made these days, all of these are simply tools.

The things that are referred to crypto, the people who hate them invent all kinds of excuses to make them look bad, then based on anonymity and all this that they want to remove, well they simply want to remove it so that everything is exposed, and Those who use crypto, casinos and all this may be exposed.
There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.

Some benefit and that is one of the things that Everyone must Understand , there is no Greater pleasure in a government than doing things well for them , so when the Gaming industry is so private, they have high profits and have little Participation from some entities The Government does not care About giving them bad propaganda, the case of my country where Gambling was prohibited for almost 20 years and the only way they would reopen is Because they are going to Receive money from the casinos , even so , the casinos are Still the company that makes the most money.

In this Order of things, things can be Applicable to Everything, the regulations of other countries for crypto, casinos, exchanges, all of these are industries that are very Profitable , that is why they are all the things that are done for the Liquidity of companies It has a lot to do with the things that Happen because Everyone Wants to have their share of Money.

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We may not see that all gamblers are on the same page page with the approach they have on it, just as the government also cant be predicted on what they have as take on gambling as well, if we look at the gambling platforms also, we may have many things to pointed our from them from the way of their operations down to how financial capability they all have rom each other.



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There is no doubt about that, I personally could say that things can be very usable in terms of those who can put them to use, I know that in many cases corrupt rulers and people who have always done evil to the world have done so with fiat money, we cannot blame the fiat money for the crimes of some people, so sometimes seeing that they say that they have been robbed and that they have done things to be able to establish themselves better in terms of crypto, well it doesn't make much sense to me that they think Thanks to crypto, more thefts can be made these days, all of these are simply tools.

The things that are referred to crypto, the people who hate them invent all kinds of excuses to make them look bad, then based on anonymity and all this that they want to remove, well they simply want to remove it so that everything is exposed, and Those who use crypto, casinos and all this may be exposed.
There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.
You can't certainly blame the government in this regard, cryptocurrency caught them unawares, so getting used to it will take time. You can't also blame them as some speak against it while others either ban, restrict or advocate/enforce strict regulation, it wasn't the same reaction by all which indicates Hope. What they've always known was fiat which is a centralised system and is what they somewhat trusted because they still have control over it despite some illicit flows. As for the illicit flows, criminals and money launderers continue to find means to outsmart the government even as the government continues to block some and unveil some perpetrator's schemes and even jail many of them. This has been the tough task the government was fighting and still fighting before and after the introduction of cryptocurrency.

Now that cryptocurrency was introduced, it became an added headache for them for obvious reasons, and if you were the top leader in the government, would you feel differently if you were genuine? As we know, it takes harder tasks to solve the puzzles of cryptocurrencies than fiats, and the common claims that criminals are using fiats are not even a contention here because the government will never deny that. But it seems people continue to reference it which is supposed not to be so because the primary concern of any responsible government is to build and maintain a sane system where illicit flows will not happen talkless of causing the financing of terrorism, trafficking and others. The only way they can do this is to get better control of cryptocurrency which is what they're trying to do these days through various regulations, and this is for the good of all as decentralisation will always come with its danger whether we like it or not.

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as decentralisation will always come with its danger whether we like it or not.

I also think that, everything brings its dangers, so the decentralization of industries can sometimes produce certain things that can be very difficult and counterproductive because I have always preferred things to be done centrally, but if there is no anonymity, you have to take the risk. Furthermore, other types of things have to be done, so the decentralized thing scares me, because if I have a problem, will they take care of it all at once?

When there is a centralized casino, the tension is immediate, the only bad thing is that they require KYC and that it be done all at once, that is what I cannot conceive, for that reason it is because centralized ones as a player trust more, which is the more liquid between centralized and decentralized cases? I don't know, it may be that the decentralized one is too honest, but the topic that encompasses everything is the blessed KYC.

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It is likely that the massive offensive of financial clans and, after them, governments, which are not elected by the people at all, but who are put in charge of the countries by these very clans, will continue.  Democracy in its classical sense can now apparently be forgotten and not remembered.  And such an attack on human rights obviously leads to complete total control over the financial transactions of ordinary people.  It is also obvious that as Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies become more and more common in legal payments, for example due to the legalization of spot Bitcoin ETFs, the implementation of KYC by these financial clans and authorities will intensify.  And this primarily concerns the gambling industry, this goes without saying. 
Even I don’t really imagine how to defend my right to anonymity in crypto payments in transactions such as cryptocurrency being exchanged for local fiat money.

All this is very true, I personally always make any type of payment that involves taxes or something like that, and it is better to do it through normal payment with the same local currency, it is much better, sometimes paying with foreign currency It can be synonymous with They Subject us to a possible investigation, however I know that in many Countries in the world what matters is that they have dollars to be able to pay and carry out all these processes in the best way, I have always said something, yes I am in a sensitive country about it , it is best to pay with local currency to avoid future inconveniences.

For those who want to maintain anonymity, it is recommended to use normal fiat payment, for payments with crypto it is not highly recommended to do so because in general they always indicate or usually ask for the person's data, then this is recorded with all the data, and when it is payments that the person makes with bitcoin because it is an indication of monitoring them.
Absolutely right. 
Of course, blockchain technology in general always allows you to accurately trace the entire sequence of data on where and where cryptocurrencies are moving, where and how they are exchanged, and in general the entire financial history of their use by a specific person or organization. 
For this reason, in terms of maintaining anonymity, of course, cryptocurrency is inferior to cash and paper money.  But cryptocurrency is significantly superior in anonymity to ordinary bank transfers and the use of plastic cards, even non-personal plastic cards.  And as we found out, anonymity is sometimes needed by any person, and I’m not talking about some kind of money and transfers from scammers and criminal transactions.  These also exist in large numbers, of course, but it seems to me that 99% of criminal payments use paper cash or complicated regular bank transfers. 
But of course, I don’t know the real statistics on the use of cryptocurrencies by criminals. 
I also think that its importance in the criminal world is clearly exaggerated by the representatives of the security forces themselves.  This is logical and it kind of comes to mind when justifying the complexity of law enforcement work for their own marketing purposes.  And therefore this is an excuse for receiving a lot of money from the country’s budget to combat such crimes.

There is no doubt about that, I personally could say that things can be very usable in terms of those who can put them to use, I know that in many cases corrupt rulers and people who have always done evil to the world have done so with fiat money, we cannot blame the fiat money for the crimes of some people, so sometimes seeing that they say that they have been robbed and that they have done things to be able to establish themselves better in terms of crypto, well it doesn't make much sense to me that they think Thanks to crypto, more thefts can be made these days, all of these are simply tools.

The things that are referred to crypto, the people who hate them invent all kinds of excuses to make them look bad, then based on anonymity and all this that they want to remove, well they simply want to remove it so that everything is exposed, and Those who use crypto, casinos and all this may be exposed.
Over the years, cryptocurrency has been zealously classified as a tool of scammers and criminals. 
I think that in fact, of course, cryptocurrency is used in fraudulent schemes no more often than ordinary fiat money, cash first of all.  But the image of money for criminals has been thoroughly created for cryptocurrencies and it is clearly supported by all governments, which in turn are practically proxies of the global banking system.  And of course, bankers treat cryptocurrency like a bone in the throat, and it must be dealt with once and for all, so that it does not interfere in the field where the bankers play.  This is what results in constantly creating the image of cryptocurrency as criminal money for criminals, although in essence it is simply an alternative financial system.  But in any case, she exists thanks to the genital invention of Satoshi and she is a clear competitor to the bankers with their dollars and she interferes with them, this is obvious.  So everyone will continue to see such attacks with accusations. 
Sometimes they also drag in a generally delusional argument about the dangers of Bitcoin mining for the environment.  I won’t even comment on this frivolous nonsense invented by “green dreamers”.

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April 04, 2024, 01:52:54 PM
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There is no doubt about that, I personally could say that things can be very usable in terms of those who can put them to use, I know that in many cases corrupt rulers and people who have always done evil to the world have done so with fiat money, we cannot blame the fiat money for the crimes of some people, so sometimes seeing that they say that they have been robbed and that they have done things to be able to establish themselves better in terms of crypto, well it doesn't make much sense to me that they think Thanks to crypto, more thefts can be made these days, all of these are simply tools.

The things that are referred to crypto, the people who hate them invent all kinds of excuses to make them look bad, then based on anonymity and all this that they want to remove, well they simply want to remove it so that everything is exposed, and Those who use crypto, casinos and all this may be exposed.
There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.
You can't certainly blame the government in this regard, cryptocurrency caught them unawares, so getting used to it will take time. You can't also blame them as some speak against it while others either ban, restrict or advocate/enforce strict regulation, it wasn't the same reaction by all which indicates Hope. What they've always known was fiat which is a centralised system and is what they somewhat trusted because they still have control over it despite some illicit flows. As for the illicit flows, criminals and money launderers continue to find means to outsmart the government even as the government continues to block some and unveil some perpetrator's schemes and even jail many of them. This has been the tough task the government was fighting and still fighting before and after the introduction of cryptocurrency.

Now that cryptocurrency was introduced, it became an added headache for them for obvious reasons, and if you were the top leader in the government, would you feel differently if you were genuine? As we know, it takes harder tasks to solve the puzzles of cryptocurrencies than fiats, and the common claims that criminals are using fiats are not even a contention here because the government will never deny that. But it seems people continue to reference it which is supposed not to be so because the primary concern of any responsible government is to build and maintain a sane system where illicit flows will not happen talkless of causing the financing of terrorism, trafficking and others. The only way they can do this is to get better control of cryptocurrency which is what they're trying to do these days through various regulations, and this is for the good of all as decentralisation will always come with its danger whether we like it or not.

It has always been like this with the problem of governments, there are many things that they always want to make profits from, they are very smart and want to see the profits for themselves, but I think this is something very common that all governments in the world are like this They want to take away something over which they have no control, that is the biggest problem of a government, apart from that they say that cryptocurrencies can decapitalize their economy but if this happens, is it that the fiat economy is so weak? I would believe so, that is why they make those decisions, apart from the fact that it is something in which we are always going to focus on doing things that do not make much sense, for example if we look at the most valuable industries such as the casino, in my country it is already They know the situation, they demand a good part of their profits to be able to operate, so in some way they are earning something, and we also do not know if the Kyc requirements are like that. That in the future they require more taxes, so sometimes industries have more liquidity, can bring these complications on the part of governments.

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April 05, 2024, 11:08:31 AM
Last edit: April 05, 2024, 02:13:08 PM by EarnOnVictor
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as decentralisation will always come with its danger whether we like it or not.

I also think that, everything brings its dangers, so the decentralization of industries can sometimes produce certain things that can be very difficult and counterproductive because I have always preferred things to be done centrally, but if there is no anonymity, you have to take the risk. Furthermore, other types of things have to be done, so the decentralized thing scares me, because if I have a problem, will they take care of it all at once?

When there is a centralized casino, the tension is immediate, the only bad thing is that they require KYC and that it be done all at once, that is what I cannot conceive, for that reason it is because centralized ones as a player trust more, which is the more liquid between centralized and decentralized cases? I don't know, it may be that the decentralized one is too honest, but the topic that encompasses everything is the blessed KYC.
Yes, you are getting the point, but I would rather call KYC a necessary evil that we must obey. Just like the debt we must pay or sacrifice just for the sake of the sanity of the world. If you agree with me, many years after the internet had started and companies were being patronised newly online, there was no immediate request for the KYC. However it started over time due to what the world has turned to, and it is so important so that the company you are dealing with and you who are dealing with the company can be accountable for it. Should the case something happen, it would be easy to know what to do when it comes to tracing and all that.

However, it is a means that can reveal our identities as well, which is the only valid issue people always point to. Because such identities revealed to the company through the KYC could be leaked, thereby compromising our privacy in one way or another. Nonetheless, once you are a centralised company, you must obey some regulations and rules, unless you are not answerable to any country or authority. This kind of arrangement will even make customers wary of such companies and might reduce patronage which can bring about liquidity to the companies that aspire growth.

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April 06, 2024, 06:20:26 PM
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However, it is a means that can reveal our identities as well, which is the only valid issue people always point to. Because such identities revealed to the company through the KYC could be leaked, thereby compromising our privacy in one way or another. Nonetheless, once you are a centralised company, you must obey some regulations and rules, unless you are not answerable to any country or authority. This kind of arrangement will even make customers wary of such companies and might reduce patronage which can bring about liquidity to the companies that aspire growth.
Once you provide your  kyc forget about you identity,  it might  not be revealed  to large number of people but what I do know is they know about you already .

Apart from leakage, if a company later becomes  a scam I guess that sucks even more Tongue, although we have nothing to do about it maybe someday inches future the system of Kyc will be completely  scrapped but for now we have no choice  than to continue  paying  our kyc debts....  and for the companies they will also continue  obeying the government  once they need some details about a kyc  in as much they are under the government  unless they don't  want to lose their licence and go off business.
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However, it is a means that can reveal our identities as well, which is the only valid issue people always point to. Because such identities revealed to the company through the KYC could be leaked, thereby compromising our privacy in one way or another. Nonetheless, once you are a centralised company, you must obey some regulations and rules, unless you are not answerable to any country or authority. This kind of arrangement will even make customers wary of such companies and might reduce patronage which can bring about liquidity to the companies that aspire growth.
Once you provide your  kyc forget about you identity,  it might  not be revealed  to large number of people but what I do know is they know about you already .

Apart from leakage, if a company later becomes  a scam I guess that sucks even more Tongue, although we have nothing to do about it maybe someday inches future the system of Kyc will be completely  scrapped but for now we have no choice  than to continue  paying  our kyc debts....  and for the companies they will also continue  obeying the government  once they need some details about a kyc  in as much they are under the government  unless they don't  want to lose their licence and go off business.
This is my only concern about KYC, but we do not have a choice if we want to abide by the terms and conditions of the companies we deal with, and they also will have to obey the law of the land they domicile and follow the directive of their regulators. I believe that the government also would have weighed the risk of sharing our data with other parties in the name of KYC and the benefits of the KYC itself for them to have concluded that we should continue to do so. The benefits would have outweighed the risk to have warranted that. I am certain that sharing our details with companies exposes us because I remember that strange numbers would just be calling me and trying to persuade me to be their customer, especially when I just signed up with a certain company. I also received emails from the companies I never signed up for through my official email address which I only take seriously formal.

These can only be possible through data leakage and the completion of KYC is responsible for that. But this can't end as you thought, it can only be done better. Perhaps, in the future, the government can restructure the way companies cheaply have assets to our details, what if they are bad? Each government might create their national data bank for this purpose where details and documents can be dumped in favour of a certain company and get verified instead of the companies themselves. By that, the companies would have satisfied the government's demand but not necessarily have to possess the documents of their customers directly, except for the communicating details like the email and phone number for security reasons.

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April 08, 2024, 12:10:16 PM
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We know quite alright that gambling companies have this money but they have decided not to go loud about it because they don't want the eye on them to set target from the government regulations and the likes,
we knew the government and also know how they are working to take money from every
businesses so what more in gambling business that they knew how money is flowing each minute.
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there are some as well in which this category of gambling platforms are just coming up in building an environment of trust that will lead to their stay and with time they enlarge in coast with what they offers, this are the kinds that started small and mean business and later got developed whereby money is never a problem for them anymore.
but that is hard for the gamblers to trust a casino that has small capital or starting small
because we are talking about winning or potential wins of each players most specially when they
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April 08, 2024, 01:38:37 PM
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There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.
Cryptos are a tool, and when tools are good enough, they can be used for good and evil. But i wouldn't pretend that no one would use it for money laundering etc. Just because i am not doing anything shady with it, i definitely see how it's possible. Especially nft markets opened my eyes on that and trying to hide origins of the crypto and mixers were quite a giveaway. Also i am certain that some people try to use some non-kyc casinos for money trail obfuscation.

Some propaganda against cryptos is based on pure ignorance and can be easily shot down as fud, and no matter who is spreading that i wouldn't be that worried about it. Cryptos probably will stay misunderstood until i die, but i don't see mandatory KYCs for example as hatred towards crypto. I see it as governments acknowledging it as a wealth transferring tool, and this is their way to validate it, by regulating it. And even though people think it's an attact towards privacy, until ZK solution for IDs is out there, transparency and auditability for all is best way to tackle corruption. While pure anonymity would feed it.

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April 08, 2024, 01:50:29 PM
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There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.
Cryptos are a tool, and when tools are good enough, they can be used for good and evil. But i wouldn't pretend that no one would use it for money laundering etc. Just because i am not doing anything shady with it, i definitely see how it's possible. Especially nft markets opened my eyes on that and trying to hide origins of the crypto and mixers were quite a giveaway. Also i am certain that some people try to use some non-kyc casinos for money trail obfuscation.

Some propaganda against cryptos is based on pure ignorance and can be easily shot down as fud, and no matter who is spreading that i wouldn't be that worried about it. Cryptos probably will stay misunderstood until i die, but i don't see mandatory KYCs for example as hatred towards crypto. I see it as governments acknowledging it as a wealth transferring tool, and this is their way to validate it, by regulating it. And even though people think it's an attact towards privacy, until ZK solution for IDs is out there, transparency and auditability for all is best way to tackle corruption. While pure anonymity would feed it.

Well, the problem of all the casinos with the clients has been the KYC, the cryptocurrencies now do not give privacy, the only coin that I see that gives privacy and anonymity is Monero and you can't even find it on Binanace, so this type of coins They are the ones that can give us that privacy, but everyone has already aligned themselves so that they do not give privacy or anonymity, that is already ending, there are only the decentralized casinos that do not require this requirement, but the governments are already there and have the Look at these casinos, they don't want to leave us alone, they want to control absolutely everything, I believe there will come a time where crypto methods will be managed from wallet to site and from site to wallet so that these things no longer get out of control with the KYC and only with casinos that are decentralized.

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April 17, 2024, 06:03:25 AM
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There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.
Cryptos are a tool, and when tools are good enough, they can be used for good and evil. But i wouldn't pretend that no one would use it for money laundering etc. Just because i am not doing anything shady with it, i definitely see how it's possible. Especially nft markets opened my eyes on that and trying to hide origins of the crypto and mixers were quite a giveaway. Also i am certain that some people try to use some non-kyc casinos for money trail obfuscation.

Some propaganda against cryptos is based on pure ignorance and can be easily shot down as fud, and no matter who is spreading that i wouldn't be that worried about it. Cryptos probably will stay misunderstood until i die, but i don't see mandatory KYCs for example as hatred towards crypto. I see it as governments acknowledging it as a wealth transferring tool, and this is their way to validate it, by regulating it. And even though people think it's an attact towards privacy, until ZK solution for IDs is out there, transparency and auditability for all is best way to tackle corruption. While pure anonymity would feed it.

Well, the problem of all the casinos with the clients has been the KYC, the cryptocurrencies now do not give privacy, the only coin that I see that gives privacy and anonymity is Monero and you can't even find it on Binanace, so this type of coins They are the ones that can give us that privacy, but everyone has already aligned themselves so that they do not give privacy or anonymity, that is already ending, there are only the decentralized casinos that do not require this requirement, but the governments are already there and have the Look at these casinos, they don't want to leave us alone, they want to control absolutely everything, I believe there will come a time where crypto methods will be managed from wallet to site and from site to wallet so that these things no longer get out of control with the KYC and only with casinos that are decentralized.
It is obvious that control by government financial regulators is tightening everywhere and in all countries of the world. 

If we talk about Monero, I only read two days ago that trading of this confidential coin on the exchanges of Belgium and Ireland is actually prohibited.  Here is another example of such an attack on human rights to privacy and confidentiality of information about personal life. 
It’s a shame, of course, that such an invention as Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is increasingly losing confidentiality.  But I still hope that over time, for these payment options in the world, the issue of the existence of a separate sector of anonymous payments will still be formed and the issue of the existence of a separate sector of anonymous payments will be resolved by law.  It seems to me that this is a necessary part of the lives of many people and regulation in this area should still be done. 
Now, of course, the process is going in the wrong direction, but it will slow down and win back its rights to confidentiality.  It's just a long process.  It is unclear when this will be.

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Once you provide your  kyc forget about you identity,  it might  not be revealed  to large number of people but what I do know is they know about you already .
That's one of the biggest fear on why some cannot pass on the KYC policy, but eventually all casinos will require KYC and we have no choice.
They are regulated, therefore we have to trust them, yes, the trust is very important, otherwise we'll just choose a decentralized gambling which I don't know if there are games that are popular in their.

Apart from leakage, if a company later becomes  a scam I guess that sucks even more Tongue, although we have nothing to do about it maybe someday inches future the system of Kyc will be completely  scrapped but for now we have no choice  than to continue  paying  our kyc debts....  and for the companies they will also continue  obeying the government  once they need some details about a kyc  in as much they are under the government  unless they don't  want to lose their licence and go off business.
When they are regulated and they scam, the government will go after them. There's nothing we can do about that anymore as even those gambling sites that have the best reputation now can become a scam something, so like what I've mentioned, that's the risk of KYC.

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May 04, 2024, 09:36:18 PM
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If we talk about Monero, I only read two days ago that trading of this confidential coin on the exchanges of Belgium and Ireland is actually prohibited.  Here is another example of such an attack on human rights to privacy and confidentiality of information about personal life. 
It’s a shame, of course, that such an invention as Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is increasingly losing confidentiality.  But I still hope that over time, for these payment options in the world, the issue of the existence of a separate sector of anonymous payments will still be formed and the issue of the existence of a separate sector of anonymous payments will be resolved by law.  It seems to me that this is a necessary part of the lives of many people and regulation in this area should still be done. 
Now, of course, the process is going in the wrong direction, but it will slow down and win back its rights to confidentiality.  It's just a long process.  It is unclear when this will be.

Well, you are absolutely right about that, I did not know that in those markets they had removed Monero from that situation, because knowing what governments are like and the actions they can take, it is very obvious that they wanted to silence all these projects, because it obviously goes against of their interests, and this is something that they want to have more control, they know that with Monero they lose control, there is more leakage of information that they will not see, and this is something that will not end now, this will be more and more persecution, I am sure that In the near future they will threaten that those who transact with Monero will sanction them.


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May 08, 2024, 05:35:34 AM
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If we talk about Monero, I only read two days ago that trading of this confidential coin on the exchanges of Belgium and Ireland is actually prohibited.  Here is another example of such an attack on human rights to privacy and confidentiality of information about personal life. 
It’s a shame, of course, that such an invention as Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is increasingly losing confidentiality.  But I still hope that over time, for these payment options in the world, the issue of the existence of a separate sector of anonymous payments will still be formed and the issue of the existence of a separate sector of anonymous payments will be resolved by law.  It seems to me that this is a necessary part of the lives of many people and regulation in this area should still be done. 
Now, of course, the process is going in the wrong direction, but it will slow down and win back its rights to confidentiality.  It's just a long process.  It is unclear when this will be.

Well, you are absolutely right about that, I did not know that in those markets they had removed Monero from that situation, because knowing what governments are like and the actions they can take, it is very obvious that they wanted to silence all these projects, because it obviously goes against of their interests, and this is something that they want to have more control, they know that with Monero they lose control, there is more leakage of information that they will not see, and this is something that will not end now, this will be more and more persecution, I am sure that In the near future they will threaten that those who transact with Monero will sanction them.


In addition to Monero, there are several other privacy coins, but they are not so popular and promoted in the cryptocurrency payment markets. 
But indeed, by the actions that regulators in different countries apply to Monero, one can judge the general direction of the fight against privacy and anonymous payments in general.  Monero is simply the most famous such cryptocurrency and the vector for its application of indicators in all respects. 
But, yeah, this type of ban on different exchanges in different countries clearly shows an attack on confidentiality and, in general, on the right of players and cryptocurrency users in general to anonymous payments.  Unfortunately, the argument about the need to combat money laundering and KYC / AML is indeed a very powerful argument in the fight against crime, and such a right to confidentiality can only weakly resist such a general reason for stopping anonymous payments. 
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In addition to Monero, there are several other privacy coins, but they are not so popular and promoted in the cryptocurrency payment markets. 
But indeed, by the actions that regulators in different countries apply to Monero, one can judge the general direction of the fight against privacy and anonymous payments in general.  Monero is simply the most famous such cryptocurrency and the vector for its application of indicators in all respects. 
But, yeah, this type of ban on different exchanges in different countries clearly shows an attack on confidentiality and, in general, on the right of players and cryptocurrency users in general to anonymous payments.  Unfortunately, the argument about the need to combat money laundering and KYC / AML is indeed a very powerful argument in the fight against crime, and such a right to confidentiality can only weakly resist such a general reason for stopping anonymous payments. 
For now, anyway, that's how it is.

You are right, but I think that over time the problems with privacy coins should improve, because since people no longer want to play with Coins like bitcoin or others because they are tracked, well, I think the industry should Adapt to those demands. , then it is one of the things that has to happen, the casinos have to give in and assume that they have to do things as they want in their Community, because there will come a time when they will not play anymore, because nobody likes to be taxed worse by betting in a casino , or because of a casino and its KYC things get out of control and maybe the players don't like this.

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May 09, 2024, 07:03:48 AM
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In addition to Monero, there are several other privacy coins, but they are not so popular and promoted in the cryptocurrency payment markets. 
But indeed, by the actions that regulators in different countries apply to Monero, one can judge the general direction of the fight against privacy and anonymous payments in general.  Monero is simply the most famous such cryptocurrency and the vector for its application of indicators in all respects. 
But, yeah, this type of ban on different exchanges in different countries clearly shows an attack on confidentiality and, in general, on the right of players and cryptocurrency users in general to anonymous payments.  Unfortunately, the argument about the need to combat money laundering and KYC / AML is indeed a very powerful argument in the fight against crime, and such a right to confidentiality can only weakly resist such a general reason for stopping anonymous payments. 
For now, anyway, that's how it is.

You are right, but I think that over time the problems with privacy coins should improve, because since people no longer want to play with Coins like bitcoin or others because they are tracked, well, I think the industry should Adapt to those demands. , then it is one of the things that has to happen, the casinos have to give in and assume that they have to do things as they want in their Community, because there will come a time when they will not play anymore, because nobody likes to be taxed worse by betting in a casino , or because of a casino and its KYC things get out of control and maybe the players don't like this.

If people make a lot of payments in cryptocurrency at a casino, then naturally they don’t like the fact that they have to go through the KYC requirement of the casino.  This irritates many people, and sometimes a player, for some personal reason, cannot provide documents or simply does not disclose his identity. 

Now I even think that exactly more than half of all online gambling players in cryptocurrency in the world will not bother with identity verification.  And this is a huge customer market that casinos should not ignore and lose.  After all, they compete and fight for customers.  On the other hand, all of them, if they are a legitimate business, are influenced by laws and regulators.  And accordingly, law-abiding casinos are forced to require KYC from clients.  By the way, for the casino this is an extra expense for maintaining confidential customer data and its security. 

I also think that the time will come when casino associations will achieve the legal possibility of anonymous payments in cryptocurrency.  This is simply the logic of developments in the gaming market.  You can’t just lose millions of potential customers who bring millions of dollars in revenue to the casino.

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May 09, 2024, 10:41:20 AM
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Once you provide your  kyc forget about you identity,  it might  not be revealed  to large number of people but what I do know is they know about you already .
That's one of the biggest fear on why some cannot pass on the KYC policy, but eventually all casinos will require KYC and we have no choice.
They are regulated, therefore we have to trust them, yes, the trust is very important, otherwise we'll just choose a decentralized gambling which I don't know if there are games that are popular in their.
Let me start from @promise444c5, what are you afraid of for a company to know you? Don't you know many companies and all that they stand for? I do not see this as a big deal. Daily, companies are collecting people's data and they will continue to do that for the safety of our society. That might not have a direct meaning to you, but for national security, collecting data is vital. Fine, data could be leaked, but this is not an automatic thing, it is not as elaborate as many take it. You can see that this is a thing of pros and cons, and if we look at it very well, the pros outweigh the cons, unless you are just selfish to believe that the security of the entire nation, and perhaps the world is lesser compared to your personal privacy, despite it not automatically leaking.

And @Russlenat, you are certainly on the right point, you've said what any reasonable person should say. In the world we live in, had it been that there was no crime, there would not have been a thing like the KYC completion, it had never existed decades ago. But due to the reality of the world we are in now, it exists, it is we who should support the course and not complain even as we find means to protect ourselves. As it is now, good centralised systems do not have a choice, they would ask you for it. But if the gambler is so determined to preserve his details against KYC sharing, he can opt for the decentralised system, it is not by force.

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May 09, 2024, 01:39:16 PM
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Once you provide your  kyc forget about you identity,  it might  not be revealed  to large number of people but what I do know is they know about you already .
That's one of the biggest fear on why some cannot pass on the KYC policy, but eventually all casinos will require KYC and we have no choice.
They are regulated, therefore we have to trust them, yes, the trust is very important, otherwise we'll just choose a decentralized gambling which I don't know if there are games that are popular in their.
Let me start from @promise444c5, what are you afraid of for a company to know you? Don't you know many companies and all that they stand for? I do not see this as a big deal. Daily, companies are collecting people's data and they will continue to do that for the safety of our society. That might not have a direct meaning to you, but for national security, collecting data is vital. Fine, data could be leaked, but this is not an automatic thing, it is not as elaborate as many take it. You can see that this is a thing of pros and cons, and if we look at it very well, the pros outweigh the cons, unless you are just selfish to believe that the security of the entire nation, and perhaps the world is lesser compared to your personal privacy, despite it not automatically leaking.

And @Russlenat, you are certainly on the right point, you've said what any reasonable person should say. In the world we live in, had it been that there was no crime, there would not have been a thing like the KYC completion, it had never existed decades ago. But due to the reality of the world we are in now, it exists, it is we who should support the course and not complain even as we find means to protect ourselves. As it is now, good centralised systems do not have a choice, they would ask you for it. But if the gambler is so determined to preserve his details against KYC sharing, he can opt for the decentralised system, it is not by force.

The points of view that you spoke are very good, yes, and they should be repeated. However, I do not see this KYC as a big deal, I see it as something bad, it is not good to give your data on any platform, only on those that are already known. It is very difficult for a trap, scam or something improper to happen but the majority of casinos ask for KYC in response to the regulatory processes, so in this case everything possible should be done to hardly leave our data anywhere because if We leave our IDs, who defends us from our data? We are leaving the damage to the hand of God and let it be what God wants, and that does not seem to me, every platform can be compromised, hacked and that can later generate problems.

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There is no doubt about that, I personally could say that things can be very usable in terms of those who can put them to use, I know that in many cases corrupt rulers and people who have always done evil to the world have done so with fiat money, we cannot blame the fiat money for the crimes of some people, so sometimes seeing that they say that they have been robbed and that they have done things to be able to establish themselves better in terms of crypto, well it doesn't make much sense to me that they think Thanks to crypto, more thefts can be made these days, all of these are simply tools.

The things that are referred to crypto, the people who hate them invent all kinds of excuses to make them look bad, then based on anonymity and all this that they want to remove, well they simply want to remove it so that everything is exposed, and Those who use crypto, casinos and all this may be exposed.
There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.
You can't certainly blame the government in this regard, cryptocurrency caught them unawares, so getting used to it will take time. You can't also blame them as some speak against it while others either ban, restrict or advocate/enforce strict regulation, it wasn't the same reaction by all which indicates Hope. What they've always known was fiat which is a centralised system and is what they somewhat trusted because they still have control over it despite some illicit flows. As for the illicit flows, criminals and money launderers continue to find means to outsmart the government even as the government continues to block some and unveil some perpetrator's schemes and even jail many of them. This has been the tough task the government was fighting and still fighting before and after the introduction of cryptocurrency.

Now that cryptocurrency was introduced, it became an added headache for them for obvious reasons, and if you were the top leader in the government, would you feel differently if you were genuine? As we know, it takes harder tasks to solve the puzzles of cryptocurrencies than fiats, and the common claims that criminals are using fiats are not even a contention here because the government will never deny that. But it seems people continue to reference it which is supposed not to be so because the primary concern of any responsible government is to build and maintain a sane system where illicit flows will not happen talkless of causing the financing of terrorism, trafficking and others. The only way they can do this is to get better control of cryptocurrency which is what they're trying to do these days through various regulations, and this is for the good of all as decentralisation will always come with its danger whether we like it or not.

There is a dual effect on bitcoin holdings and crypto that is difficult to remove. On one side you are using it because it attracks a certain kind of use that uses crypto to play over and over and sometime they might be linked with crime. However the effect also plays against in the sense of the seriousness and credibility of the flows and that is the con to the pro.

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There is no doubt about that, I personally could say that things can be very usable in terms of those who can put them to use, I know that in many cases corrupt rulers and people who have always done evil to the world have done so with fiat money, we cannot blame the fiat money for the crimes of some people, so sometimes seeing that they say that they have been robbed and that they have done things to be able to establish themselves better in terms of crypto, well it doesn't make much sense to me that they think Thanks to crypto, more thefts can be made these days, all of these are simply tools.

The things that are referred to crypto, the people who hate them invent all kinds of excuses to make them look bad, then based on anonymity and all this that they want to remove, well they simply want to remove it so that everything is exposed, and Those who use crypto, casinos and all this may be exposed.
There have always been alot of misconceptions and propaganda again cryptocurrency and bitcoin most especially which is why we see alot of attacks from various government a and some of it agencies around the world, even though all the criminal who use the fiat monetary process have been left unchecked and uncaught until now, but their are quick to sponsor hate statements against the industry today.

The government have failed in to act right to regulate the financial institutions,  and also making a misplaced priority by chasing the wrong fight.
You can't certainly blame the government in this regard, cryptocurrency caught them unawares, so getting used to it will take time. You can't also blame them as some speak against it while others either ban, restrict or advocate/enforce strict regulation, it wasn't the same reaction by all which indicates Hope. What they've always known was fiat which is a centralised system and is what they somewhat trusted because they still have control over it despite some illicit flows. As for the illicit flows, criminals and money launderers continue to find means to outsmart the government even as the government continues to block some and unveil some perpetrator's schemes and even jail many of them. This has been the tough task the government was fighting and still fighting before and after the introduction of cryptocurrency.

Now that cryptocurrency was introduced, it became an added headache for them for obvious reasons, and if you were the top leader in the government, would you feel differently if you were genuine? As we know, it takes harder tasks to solve the puzzles of cryptocurrencies than fiats, and the common claims that criminals are using fiats are not even a contention here because the government will never deny that. But it seems people continue to reference it which is supposed not to be so because the primary concern of any responsible government is to build and maintain a sane system where illicit flows will not happen talkless of causing the financing of terrorism, trafficking and others. The only way they can do this is to get better control of cryptocurrency which is what they're trying to do these days through various regulations, and this is for the good of all as decentralisation will always come with its danger whether we like it or not.

There is a dual effect on bitcoin holdings and crypto that is difficult to remove. On one side you are using it because it attracks a certain kind of use that uses crypto to play over and over and sometime they might be linked with crime. However the effect also plays against in the sense of the seriousness and credibility of the flows and that is the con to the pro.
This is normal and the mind of an average human being will always be selfish. The law and the regulations all around the world and the crypto space are keeping the check to a little extent, if not, it will be worse. Now, the cryptocurrency has the flaws of its own to aid and abate enough illegal inflow and outflow, don't you think that the people will be using the opportunity to perpetrate their evil deeds? For many years now, scammers have changed to crypto for their illegal dealings, and they talk of more illegality in movies in the constructive approach in which they plan it with cryptocurrency and it is more popular now than fiat. Aside from the movies associated with bank robberies, it is cryptocurrency you will be hearing when it comes to illegal flows.

That alone should ring a huge bell in the head of any right-thinking person that this industry needs more regulation. It is such an industry that was created with the intention of making the government have no say, but now, with its loose ends, the government is making improvements in doing its best for the sanity of the world, which I am 100% in support of. Or else, it becomes worse issues over time if such menace is not checked now. Regulation is the key, and I implore strict regulation still, after all, if anyone has nothing to hide, there can't be fear. The fear of what? So long as cryptocurrency is legal in your country, then leave the government alone to do what they need to do. That's my advice for everyone, by the way.

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