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September 14, 2023, 07:53:01 PM
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What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

Is this the reason why you think some countries ban gambling because it's less ethical? Because, I don't think so.
They have complete different reasons not because it's less ethical, but it's most probably because a lot of people lost control of their habits and that gambling was associated with syndicates and crime. But if you come to think of it, gambling isn't really an unethical activity as long as you're spending your own money without having to obtain money illegally to sustain your gambling needs. Some countries strongly believed that the effects on gambling may contribute greatly on the number of crimes happened in their places.
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September 14, 2023, 07:56:01 PM
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I found out from google that gambling is legal in some number of countries and still banned in many countries.

It's always been the case though, there are government around the world that are very strict, it could be because of the form of their government or because of their religion that they ban gambling totally and we can't do anything about it.

What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

I'm not really sure what you mean? Again as I have said, there are reasons that government not wanting to see any form of gambling because of their belief and obviously they don't want their population to be involved on it. So if you are in those ban countries and wanted to gamble, then there is the risk involved and you can't fight the government. The best thing to do is get out of that country and travel.

Each government has its own regulations when it comes to gambling. Some of them restrict it for their own reasons believing that it will benefit their country as well as their in general. They have a different basis when it comes to banning it. Some of them rely on their culture and belief which we also have to respect.
It's a good thing that there are still other alternative ways for some gamblers in gambling-restricted countries to gamble despite the restrictions. As for me, we couldn't question the decision of their government for banning and restricting gambling since we all have different cultures and belief and each country has different economic situation as well.
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September 14, 2023, 08:04:46 PM
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There are a lot of other countries where gambling is legal and a lot of others where gambling is illegal.I have to be honest here,despite being an avid gambler I am well aware that people who live in countries where gambling is illegal do somewhat better in life,their mind is not always thinking about gambling.Sure there are people there who play gambling online as online you can bypass government restrictions but this number is low.In fact the UK has the biggest number of people who suffer from gambling addiction as in UK people use to gamble a lot,I have seen this first hand there,not that I have any source for this,those guys whenever were going to the stadium they were betting,whenever they were going to eat dinner they were betting,when they were in a pub after work which is custom there to drink something they were betting,so gambling overall has negative consequences for people who do it.
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September 14, 2023, 08:09:27 PM
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I'm not entirely sure about your use of 'less ethical.' I mean gambling should be legalized in many countries already and restricted in a few especially in Arabian countries (Middle East and North African countries).

I'm curious about where you obtained the list of countries you mentioned. Also, by 'ethical,' do you mean countries that shouldn't legalize gambling? If that's the case, I don't think any of those countries have a reason to make gambling illegal, as there doesn't seem to be a reason for them to do so imho.
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September 14, 2023, 08:12:19 PM
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What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

I feel that countries that banned gambling has a close ties to their religion.  Since majority of the religion frowned upon gambling and even declare that it is a sin.  The government following the core of their major religion make any gambling activities illegal.

Most countries that allow gambling have a clear view of the separation of the religion and states. Where religion should not interfere with the affairs of the government.  I do not think that the government banned gambling because it is less ethical but rather because of the influence of their major religion.
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September 14, 2023, 08:28:28 PM
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What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?
This will always depend on the belief of your Religion and seriously, gambling is becoming more legal now.
Even my country is not on the given list, I can say that gambling here is legal and many gamblers are rushing into this platform, you can see the rise of adoption and it started during the pandemic season where many can't go outside and don't have things to do aside from playing online. Gambling is slowly becoming acceptable by many, I think its becoming more ethical now.
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September 14, 2023, 08:28:33 PM
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I found out from google that gambling is legal in some number of countries and still banned in many countries.
UK
Ireland
Monaco
Germany
Spain
Belgium
the USA
Canada
Malta
Australia

There are many religious and cultural views about gambling. Some religions don't prohibit gambling but it is seen as unethical by some believers.  Religions like Christianity don't forbid gambling but it is not accepted among Christians because it is seen as a medium to seek for quick money or wealth which could lead to greed. In most Christian-dominated countries gambling is not prohibited. However, Islam sees gambling as a sinful behavior that should be avoided. That is why in most Islamic nations gambling is highly prohibited and casinos are not allowed to operate. Some cultures or traditions see gamblers as time and money wasters,  therefore societal values discourage people from gambling.

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What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

Responsible gambling is very ethical and should not be banned. What should be discouraged and controlled is gambling addiction. Another act that should also be controlled is underage gambling. Children and underage teenagers should be protected against gambling because they can easily become addicts.

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September 14, 2023, 08:44:56 PM
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What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

Is this the reason why you think some countries ban gambling because it's less ethical? Because, I don't think so.
They have complete different reasons not because it's less ethical, but it's most probably because a lot of people lost control of their habits and that gambling was associated with syndicates and crime. But if you come to think of it, gambling isn't really an unethical activity as long as you're spending your own money without having to obtain money illegally to sustain your gambling needs. Some countries strongly believed that the effects on gambling may contribute greatly on the number of crimes happened in their places.
Humans are very hard to control and that's why most of the government have banned the act of gambling because just like you stated most citizens just go out and make useless of their life because of the losese they have inquire while gambling. Gambling is very frustrating and can make people do  desperate things and do all other crazy things.

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September 14, 2023, 09:34:21 PM
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I found out from google that gambling is legal in some number of countries and still banned in many countries.


What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?
Gambling is a very lucrative industry where millions of dollars are been made on daily basis both from casino operators and lucky random individuals worldwide, and on that note, I was able to do some check on all the countries provided below, and made to understand that these are list of countries where gambling is fully legalized, unlike mostly Islamic states where gambling is totally prohibited, such as; North Korea, Japan and Qatar, which are all Islamic states, whereas see the following


UK  - Gambling is legal in UK, regulated and controlled by a license government authority.
Ireland - Gambling is also legal in Ireland.
Monaco - Just found out that gambling in this country is legal for tourist and illegal for it's citizens.
Germany - Gambling is legal in Germany
Spain - Gambling is also legal in Spain

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September 14, 2023, 09:42:36 PM
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What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

I feel that countries that banned gambling has a close ties to their religion.  Since majority of the religion frowned upon gambling and even declare that it is a sin.  The government following the core of their major religion make any gambling activities illegal.

Most countries that allow gambling have a clear view of the separation of the religion and states. Where religion should not interfere with the affairs of the government.  I do not think that the government banned gambling because it is less ethical but rather because of the influence of their major religion.
Some government authorities in some countries sees gambling as one of the bad social vices that the public should be allowed to engage themselves in and that's why they decided to ban gambling.
While in some other countries, gambling is only allowed to an extent by the government because they think that it's not all gambling activities that's good for public consumption. However, there are countries where every form of gambling is allowed provided that such gambling platform will register with government.

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September 14, 2023, 09:50:53 PM
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What's ethical for one person, could mean something entirely different to another. I have never for one thought gambling as something that is unethical. It is a pleasurable indulgence that unlike any other vice, but of which requires you to spend some money and hope to be lucky.

Some of these countries you mentioned like UK accepts cryptocurrency for payments and transactions, while the others may not consider crypto currency illegal until it is regulated and monitored.
I believe these gambling countries accept cryptocurrency for gambling too.

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September 14, 2023, 10:23:12 PM
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In the Philippines, the revenue of gambling activities ranked 2nd to our main source of income for the country. With this in mind, the country uses these income to fund various government sectors and for the benefit of the society.

That's a very good example right there, and more countries should consider different perspectives before prohibiting things they don't fully understand. This situation applies to the country where I live where they've banned all forms of gambling (only for individuals or investors) including real and online casinos, without recognizing the potential profits of it as an industry or just like how philippine took advantage of that.
What bothers me is that if this decision were based or due to Islam I would respect it however at the same time our local television runs a program under a name Loto and sell the tickets in some places they also label as sports betting which I find more like a lottery and a game of chance similar to Bingo.

I do agree on this basis since Curaçao license is somehow useless in an event of complaint since they are very slow to make action and they didn’t care if the casino has a lot of acrive cases of scamming user for their license unlike country that you mention that is very strict on gambling policies in terms of consumer protection.
Most casinos especially crypto ones you will find them all having their license with Curacao, the main reason of that I read that it’s almost the only place where they give license for cryptocurrencies payments, beside low fees and taxes of course.

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Gambling has never been about ethics, it's about damnable dice, cards, and whatnot, where money is kind of like an entrance fee. I don't really see how morals and whatnot come into play here other than when said player is being dumb enough to involve others into their addiction, in which case is that persons fault, not gambling.

Anyway, it's probably a culture thing or something. Or profit in terms of their local business stuff. I mean recently Australia banned (or will ban, not sure) the use of credit cards and crypto for online gambling because they were losing money over it (there's a thread here about that), so you can say they were losing customers over to foreign casinos cause they had nothing better to show for it. As for the culture side, well, nothing need be explained really, it's just culture.

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September 14, 2023, 10:45:19 PM
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Countries get their rules and they accept gambling base on what they do, so many countries accept gambling but they have restrictions and age variations of gamblers, like some of the countries if you are not up to eighteen years 18 you will not be allowed to play gambling, so they will restrict the person to gamble or the government will sealed that particular gambling centre, some government are like that in some civilised countries, why in some countries they lift ban for gambling and still gambling is still going on in the same place, I don't think that their is country that ban gambling totally

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Gambling shouldn't be a massive legal conundrum. It's well established that it's not helpful to society, and could be detrimental at times especially when done and held with the idea of exploiting vulnerable people in mind, which is why I understand why some countries ban gambling outright. And while it's a little radical to think that gambling is basically just glorified drug addiction to many people there's really no other way of thinking about it. And this comes from someone who's really invested in gambling.

I still believe that gambling could be regulated and legalized, but at the same time I don't bother myself with the trivialities of gambling being illegalized in some countries and all that. They have their reasons for disallowing people to gamble.

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September 14, 2023, 10:58:33 PM
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I found out from google that gambling is legal in some number of countries and still banned in many countries.
UK
Ireland
Monaco
Germany
Spain
Belgium
the USA
Canada
Malta
Australia
What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

First of all, it would be good if you include the source where you got this information, it will really appreciate the author and can also be empirical evidence for our discussion.
I've found the list here "Which Countries Can Offer You Legal Gambling in 2023", the same way how OP list it on this thread.

What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

Gambling isn't a common thing, people who take part in this activity must be people who are fully educated (although from several incidents we still see that there are people who have been educated to become problem gamblers too), then I want to ask you, do you see developing countries from the list you attached? of course not. That's because the majority of them have not been educated apart from the role of religion which does not allow this activity.
I beg to differ, gambling is a common thing and alot of people gamble in other ways not only on casinos. It doesn't really matter if you're educated or not as long as you know the game your gambling on, you'll be able to gamble on it. There are even some instances where a person gamble on something they don't know and just rely on their gut feeling or luck.

As for how gambling feels less ethical when doing it, for me, it's mostly as how it relates to gambling addiction problem which is too common.


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September 14, 2023, 11:10:15 PM
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I found out from google that gambling is legal in some number of countries and still banned in many countries.

This should be obvious even without looking at a Google search. Gambling is illegal in some countries.

But when it says fully illegal or totally banned, there are only a few countries that have a total ban on gambling in general. In most cases, illegal gambling is those gambling types or forms that are not prohibited to play in their jurisdiction. To make it simple, a good example is China where gambling is illegal but they prefer their citizens to only join lotteries.

What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

What do you mean exactly by saying gambling was less ethical?

Ethical or not, gambling was allowed and not allowed in a certain country due to their own respective reasons. If you have a time you can consider searching gambling laws by each countries and make your own analysis from there.
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These countries have relatively higher GDP than the rest of the world, and they have an established credit system that checks these users whether they're in too deep or not. They have the means to stop these guys from carelessly spending their money compared to the rest of the world. Plus, the gambling industry in these countries are also raking in lots of money yearly, so there isn't any way these countries would stop such operations.

What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?

'Ethical' on gambling varies differently on where you're at, so it's a question that I don't think will have a single solid answer.
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September 15, 2023, 10:44:49 PM
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Mindset and decisions are different from one country to another, based on their culture, religion and theirs citizen. Gambling is banned in most of muslim countries, some countries banned gambling due to the its negative effect on their citizen. All the people don't have same minset, some people take Gambling seriously and lost a lot & involved in criminal activities to manage money for gambling and make violence. But some countries allow gambling cause government know that they can't stop anyone from gambling, if a person decided to start gambling. There are many secret ways to participate. So "Ethical" or not, it depends on a person how he manage to overview

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September 15, 2023, 11:23:47 PM
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I found out from google that gambling is legal in some number of countries and still banned in many countries.
UK
Ireland
Monaco
Germany
Spain
Belgium
the USA
Canada
Malta
Australia
What do you feel from this that gambling is less ethical?
I can't comprehend what you mean by that. But if it's about the countries that have banned gambling, they have their own reasons for that's basically about the concern of their people of being addicted to it. While for those countries that have legalized it, there's a fair share that the government is getting from the gambling industry considering that it's one of the biggest industries out there, so they can't ignore the fact that they're earning a huge taxation from it so there's no problem with that. And a government that bans or prohibits gambling, it is not a problem or an issue at all. They've got their own policies and from there so if they decided to just ban it, there's no need to stretch that out because that it is what it is.

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